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Sol Neman

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whoa whoa whoa - are you starting up the doom and gloom again after saying the timeline was altered and all is well? Can't stand to not have the attention, huh.
 Quoting: Eggifer


Are you thinking AC 6681425 is the OP? It's not, that is me, I added that info while I was at work. I will not sign in with my username on my computer at work.

Besides, just because we have a different "timeline" now doesn't necessarily mean what was stated by the OP won't happen, he simply stated that we are now in uncharted territory and no one really knows what's going to happen now. That's how I took it anyways.
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I love you ..
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whoa whoa whoa - are you starting up the doom and gloom again after saying the timeline was altered and all is well? Can't stand to not have the attention, huh.
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What's your gripe?
If you think this thread is BS and you haven't learned anything from it...move on...
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Something to watch...

Previously unknown strain of bird flu kills 2 in China

"March 31, 2013 – CHINA - Two men have died in the Chinese city of Shanghai, after contracting a strain of bird flu not previously known in humans, Chinese officials say. The men, aged 27 and 87, both fell ill with the H7N9 strain in February and died some weeks later in March, Xinhua news agency reported. A woman of 35 who caught the virus elsewhere is said to be critically ill. It is unclear how the strain spread, but the three did not infect each other or any close contacts, officials say..."

[link to theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6073772


China confirms 4 more cases of H7N9, urges public to remain calm

"April 2, 2013 – CHINA - China reported today that four more people in one province were made seriously ill by a bird flu virus new to humans, while cities along the eastern seaboard stepped up public health measures to guard against a disease that has already caused two deaths. The health bureau of eastern Jiangsu province said in a notice on its website that three women, aged 45, 48 and 32, and an 83-year-old retired man, from different cities in the province, were all critically ill with the H7N9 virus, a diagnosis confirmed by the provincial disease prevention centre. These latest cases are the second batch to be confirmed after three in Anhui province and nearby Shanghai on Sunday..."

[link to theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: Sol Neman 37301372


NEW BIRD FLU STRAIN CAUSES FOURTH DEATH IN CHINA

"BEIJING (AP) -- A middle-aged man who transported poultry for a living has died from a new strain of bird flu, the fourth death among 11 confirmed cases in China, the government and state media reported Thursday.

The 48-year-old man, who died in Shanghai, is one of several among the infected believed to have had direct contact with fowl, which may carry the virus. Until recently, the virus, known as H7N9, was not known to infect humans..."


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 Quoting: Sol Neman 12118332


Now it's up to (5) confirmed deaths.

China reports fifth death from H7N9: mystery deepens on how virus is spreading

"Fifth death reported: Authorities in Shanghai said Thursday night that another person has died from H7N9 bird flu, bringing the death toll from the new deadly strain to five around the country. The city has reported six infections to date, and four have died, said the Shanghai Municipal Health and Family Planning Commission. Of the rest two, there was a four-year-old, the agency said. The baby was recovering from mild illness, it added. The person died at Huashan Hospital on Wednesday and was confirmed infected with the H7N9 strain on Thursday..."

[link to theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: Sol Neman 6681425


More deaths in China from new H7N9 bird flu; U.S., Japan on guard

"April 5, 2013 – CHINA – Beijing said it was mobilizing resources nationwide to combat a new strain of bird flu that has killed six people, as Japan and Hong Kong stepped up vigilance and the United States said it was closely monitoring the situation. All of the 14 reported infections from the H7N9 bird flu strain have been in eastern China and at least four of the six dead are in the financial hub of Shanghai, a city of 20 million people. The strain does not appear to be transmitted from human to human but authorities in Hong Kong raised a preliminary alert and said they were taking precautions at the airport. Vietnam banned imports of Chinese poultry..."

[link to theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com]
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China confirms 4 more cases of H7N9, urges public to remain calm

"April 2, 2013 – CHINA - China reported today that four more people in one province were made seriously ill by a bird flu virus new to humans, while cities along the eastern seaboard stepped up public health measures to guard against a disease that has already caused two deaths. The health bureau of eastern Jiangsu province said in a notice on its website that three women, aged 45, 48 and 32, and an 83-year-old retired man, from different cities in the province, were all critically ill with the H7N9 virus, a diagnosis confirmed by the provincial disease prevention centre. These latest cases are the second batch to be confirmed after three in Anhui province and nearby Shanghai on Sunday..."

[link to theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: Sol Neman 37301372


NEW BIRD FLU STRAIN CAUSES FOURTH DEATH IN CHINA

"BEIJING (AP) -- A middle-aged man who transported poultry for a living has died from a new strain of bird flu, the fourth death among 11 confirmed cases in China, the government and state media reported Thursday.

The 48-year-old man, who died in Shanghai, is one of several among the infected believed to have had direct contact with fowl, which may carry the virus. Until recently, the virus, known as H7N9, was not known to infect humans..."


[link to hosted.ap.org]
 Quoting: Sol Neman 12118332


Now it's up to (5) confirmed deaths.

China reports fifth death from H7N9: mystery deepens on how virus is spreading

"Fifth death reported: Authorities in Shanghai said Thursday night that another person has died from H7N9 bird flu, bringing the death toll from the new deadly strain to five around the country. The city has reported six infections to date, and four have died, said the Shanghai Municipal Health and Family Planning Commission. Of the rest two, there was a four-year-old, the agency said. The baby was recovering from mild illness, it added. The person died at Huashan Hospital on Wednesday and was confirmed infected with the H7N9 strain on Thursday..."

[link to theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: Sol Neman 6681425


More deaths in China from new H7N9 bird flu; U.S., Japan on guard

"April 5, 2013 – CHINA – Beijing said it was mobilizing resources nationwide to combat a new strain of bird flu that has killed six people, as Japan and Hong Kong stepped up vigilance and the United States said it was closely monitoring the situation. All of the 14 reported infections from the H7N9 bird flu strain have been in eastern China and at least four of the six dead are in the financial hub of Shanghai, a city of 20 million people. The strain does not appear to be transmitted from human to human but authorities in Hong Kong raised a preliminary alert and said they were taking precautions at the airport. Vietnam banned imports of Chinese poultry..."

[link to theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: Sol Neman 37488535



China kills market birds as flu found in pigeons

" BEIJING (AP) -- China announced a sixth death from a new bird flu strain Friday, while authorities in Shanghai halted the sale of live fowl and slaughtered all poultry at a market where the virus was detected in pigeons being sold for meat.

The mass bird killing is the first so far as the Chinese government responds to the H7N9 strain of bird flu, which has sickened 16 people, many critically, along the eastern seaboard in its first known infections of people. The first cases were announced Sunday, while two more were reported Friday, both retirees who were seriously ill..."


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OP dropped me a line. He said he couldn't post in the thread for one reason or another and would I please post (below) for him.

Here it is:

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It is the end of the month, and time for some answers. I don't expect you to be able to either understand, grasp or believe the following, but I am going to tell you anyway....

TIME...

What is it really?

It's actually called something else, but that is too complicated to explain here. So lets go with time, and with what you know about it, and expand on it a bit.

Try to think of time as an infinite fabric, a repeating pattern that expands in all directions, with infinite possibilities... We are traveling through the fabric of time at a constant speed, in a set direction, forward only. Everything that is, was and will be in time, all exists on that course. Think of it as a highlighted straight line through that fabric, and think of our current point in time as a fixed position, a white light indicates our position in our timeline. the course behind us, blue, the course ahead white... A straight line... Got it?

From a point in our distant future, on our timeline, there are advanced humans, who had run out of options for resolving a crisis. One that will certainly doom what little is left of humanity in their time.

On January 19, 2013 there was an Iranian sponsored attack on a high profile Israeli government leader in Tel Aviv , an attack that quickly drew an Israeli military retaliation on Iran, and sent the entire region into war. The USA was involved in this war, and that was the beginning of the end... I am intentionally leaving out some specifics because they are obviously irrelevant now. I have laid out in this thread some of how and why we would be attacked, now it is time for the rest of the story...

The inspiration for this thread came from the attacks that followed, and from research into the attacks conducted in a collaborative effort involving a group of people who have all shared the same experiences. I was one of them, I also came to believe that the attacks could not be stopped, so I felt compelled to post this thread. The warnings and information in this thread are as accurate as they could be when posted over time from the beginning post.

The shared experiences...

There are dozens or more people like myself who all began to have these horrific dreams, in time many realized that these were some kind of visions of actual future events, and that theory was tested and confirmed in several ways, on several occasions. Some like myself thought they were going insane, until it happened that we were (many of us) drawn to each other, and began communicating and sharing our experiences, and found that we were not alone, not going crazy and that we had to do something about this. In time we decided to call these experiences, "memories" because that is what they in essence are. Memories of people who lived through these events and died. All of us had a brief period of missing time, before we began to have these memories... I am as far as I know, the only one who posted in public because I didn't believe it could be stopped.

Let me be brief and to the point here. There is a future where most of you are not, and now most would be sick, dead or dying. By the end of 2013 well over 4 BILLION people sick, dying and dead, and the USA hit the worst, first.... It didn't happen, it was stopped, and the course changed.

The attacks happened near the end of January, and were carried out by terrorists who infected themselves with a biological weapon, a weapon that was in fact developed by a group of experts who were followers of a man who was convinced that to save the world, the population must be reduced by approximately 70% This group made the weapon available to the terrorists who desired to attack their enemy with such a weapon, and it was delivered to them in Pakistan. The group of terrorists were aligned with Shiites in Iran (see what is posted in this thread) They were seeking to fulfill Islamic prophecies and to make war with the "great Satan" they planned to defeat the USA with this biological weapon, but they must provoke at attack on Iran first, so they can gain religious justification to attack, and to fulfill their twisted prophecies. The weapon developers also had developed a vaccine, but that is the problem... This bug was so well engineered that it was able to mutate, and literally became unstoppable.... Decades would go by leaving humanity very near the brink of extinction, when some assumed they had a breakthrough and produced a vaccine that seemed to stop it... What happened was it went dormant, and in time it was assumed that it had been completely controlled. Nearly every person born and alive in the decades that followed were all carriers of the dormant genetic materials of this virus, and then many decades later an outbreak of a new strain of flu brought it back with a vengeance... Centuries later the fight continues and they (humanity) are losing... They used their advanced technologies to reach out, or back to us... Their goal was not to save themselves but to save humanity.

How does that work?

They cannot save themselves by helping us to see our near future, and helping us gather the information to stop it, by doing so we will alter the course through the fabric of time... And that is what has happened here. The future is still there, with the past and the present. And as of 11:00 GMT March 31, 2013 the new course is set, there is no turn that can take us back now. Now the bad news...

We don't know what lies ahead on this new course, we can't know if it is going to be better or worse, just that we now have a chance, and new opportunities and choices that we didn't have on our original timeline. Will a Korean war, lead to world war? ... Will the earth explode? ... there is a whole new timeline now, with completely new possibilities. Unless someone from the future (our new future) reaches out to us, there is NO way for us to know. Maybe we just bought time, maybe the world can move away from wars, and slavery to the global elite financial systems, and finally advance into a race of beings that can achieve their true potential? ... Odds are we will still find a way to construct our own doom, and actually do it some day... But ... Who knows?

Many of you who have read this thread, some of you have communicated with me (you know who you are) have experienced inexplicable changes around you, some can see these changes, most can't. The reasons are in part because you are still here... And because you were given choices that you didn't have in your original timeline.

Little Miracles... I warned you, you really didn't want the answers... Did you?

Okay, I made this as brief as possible, and tried to make it as simple as possible, and after it sinks in, if you have any questions, I will try to answer what I can somehow.

Or you can just begin the ridicule, or whatever.... I kept my word, and I also said it wouldn't be easy to understand, or believe... You decide.

By the way, we were given much more than just the memories, but there are some things I simply can't say anything about, now or ever, no matter what happens.
 Quoting: tandym



Ummm.... isn't this pretty much the story line of "The Terminator," with a few changes here and there? Don't get me wrong, it's fascinating reading, and I am all for humans transcending our current state of insanity.

But as the old axiom goes, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof."

And whenever I hear phrases like, "I can't tell you more now," or, "you wouldn't understand," or "I'll post more later, not safe right now" - I get VERY leery about the authenticity of said posts.

Not trying to be a thread or buzzkill - I would just like to see some (f)actual proof, or at least be given credit for the possibility that maybe we WOULD understand if told once in a while.
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^^^^
THIS

Watch out, you are gonna get attacked for being a doubting Thomas by the true believers.
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^^^^
THIS

Watch out, you are gonna get attacked for being a doubting Thomas by the true believers.
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Of course he won't...he's being respectful.
Not sarcastic, repetitive and annoying...
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Nope, not this time, and more importantly, not with this particular "weapon" ... The terrorist cells have been eliminated, the people involved in the development of the weapon, eliminated, the weapon and all stored materials, eliminated, destroyed. The facilities and everyone involved have been also... eliminated.

"They" cannot be saved in their time by preventing this in ours.

How do I explain this so you can understand?

Lets say you have discovered the ability to send information back in time (not time travel), and decided to prevent WWII by providing that information to people you believe will act on that information to kill Hitler before he can rise to power. And by doing so, you allow a conservative government to gain power in Germany, there was no war, no holocaust, and you have changed history... How does that change the here and NOW?

It doesn't, nothing changes for us, you have created a new timeline. Before the changes you enabled, everything is the same for us, and for those on the new timeline. After those changes there are two futures, ours (unchanged) and the new one without WWII and Hitler.
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The above was in response to this:

... No Contagion Doom??? ...

Wouldn't "they" be saved if things were to change now?
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Hey OP, nice move getting us on an alternate timeline where we'll all be nuked by NK. thanks a lot!
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I'd rather deal with North Korean nukes, even if one of two actually get through our defenses and detonates over a US city, as bad as that would be, it is minor compared to what could have happened on our original timeline.
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Hello OP

How many of you came together?
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26 of us "in the know" came together... There are/were others that didn't want to be involved.
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First question...how do you feel now? Relieved? How do the others feel?
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Well, I have slept longer and better over the last few days than I have in a couple of years.

Can't and wont speak for anyone else.

Relieved?

Kind of, but when you have seen what evil is capable of, and now faced with the unknown, it is difficult to be both relieved and optimistic... At least for now.
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Ummm.... isn't this pretty much the story line of "The Terminator," with a few changes here and there? Don't get me wrong, it's fascinating reading, and I am all for humans transcending our current state of insanity.

But as the old axiom goes, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof."

And whenever I hear phrases like, "I can't tell you more now," or, "you wouldn't understand," or "I'll post more later, not safe right now" - I get VERY leery about the authenticity of said posts.

Not trying to be a thread or buzzkill - I would just like to see some (f)actual proof, or at least be given credit for the possibility that maybe we WOULD understand if told once in a while.
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Nothing I do here and now, is going to change your perceptions of this reality.... You and many others are simply going to believe whatever you wish.

I never set out here to prove anything to anyone, or to gain anything from this, I honestly did NOT believe we could stop this. Can you imagine what it was like trying to get people to believe in this enough to take action to remove the threats?

I could present evidence here, but not without possibly implicating others and outing some that do not want to be exposed.

I posted this thread, from the beginning because of my personal doubts in our abilities to stop it, and it was decided that we'd plan for the worst, and to save who we could, also plan to survive. This thread made the secrecy easier for me to cope with, even it it was posted on a fringe site.

I could fill up pages explaining everything to you and, provide some evidence and in the end, you still will not understand or believe it.
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"if it" for it it above^^

That is all for now, any other questions?
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1- How do you know things are on a new course?...

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Almost forgot this one.

How do I know?

I know because the stream of information is gone, the future of our original timeline is gone to us forever now. We were shown how and when this would happen, and it did.
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...

Some like myself thought they were going insane,
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Thanks Tandym and OP. The above statement stuck out the most to me. I know what you mean...I've thought the same of myself. It still amazes me how many are blind and it doesn't seem to matter how much you try, they will not open their eyes or ears to see and hear. I am so happy to know I am not the only one thinking they're going insane.

- Sol
 Quoting: Sol Neman 6073772


That was my first thought when this began happening to me. I actually sought out psychiatric help because I thought I was literally losing my mind. After two clinical evaluations I was told that I was suffering from mild depression, and given meds for that, which did nothing to help.

It began over two years ago, I was in Louisiana, it was winter, and it was a warm day (in the 60s) I stopped late in the afternoon at a rest area near the interstate... I got a blanket, a snack, drink and a book I had been wanting to read and found a nice spot under a tree, I watched what I thought was the most amazing and beautiful sunset I had ever seen, I don't know what happened, but I looked at the book I was reading and closed my eyes...

I opened them in what seemed like seconds later an I realized it had suddenly gotten dark and very cold, I blew and my breath, made dense smoke like steam, I shivered from the cold, odd I thought, then I looked at the time... just over 6 hours had passed in the blink of an eye... Literally!

From that moment on, I realized that I knew things I could not possibly know... I thought I was going crazy, and was having some kind of psychotic break, so I sought out psychiatric help..

Then I began not only knowing things but having what seemed like memories that were not really mine, in time I realized that some of these memories were of events that had not happened yet.. I investigated until I was certain in each case... Ultimately to where we are right now... The first person I met that had shared these experiences kept showing up at the same times and places where/when I was, and in time I approached and asked if they were following me... It was a relief to know at that time that I wasn't alone. In time we found others...All of us began working together, trying to figure out what we can or should do, who to tell etc...
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Besides, just because we have a different "timeline" now doesn't necessarily mean what was stated by the OP won't happen,
 Quoting: Sol Neman


let me be clear on this point. The attacks outlined in this thread, and with the biological weapon, will NOT happen, not only that, the ability to develop that particular weapon no longer exists.

Stuff happens, you know, like accidental gas leaks, and explosions, fires, and from time to time people are tragically trapped inside.

The sleeper cells are gone. The leadership taken out, their attack plans aimed to provoke were prevented. They no longer have any power or influence in the Middle East, and while a war with Iran may still happen, it cannot trigger the cells to attack us, as they are NOT there anymore.

Providing "intelligence" to the right people made drone strikes possible to destroy other key targets.

There are no lose ends here... None.

Will there be biological attacks in our new future?

I am sure there will be, alone with a multitude of of other man-made and natural catastrophes... The time and severity are for now, unknown and completely unpredictable.

Evil finds a way, it always does.
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Any questions?

If not, I am going away for a while, quite a while actually. I plan to enjoy LIFE again, while I still can.

I'll answer what I can, within some limits.

Leaving in two days...
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I've followed this thread for a very long time silently but its finally time for my two cents.

The OP's claim is a bit outlandish, yes, but you can't say something is automatically false just because its a little out of the ordinary. Only the OP knows if he's being legit or not so please don't act like you know for a fact that his claim is false. You don't. I don't. We simply do not have access to that level of confirmation about his claim.

At the very least its a good story and I thank you, OP, for sharing it with us.
 Quoting: Raist 35953050


I knew from the opening post, where I was posting, and that people would make the instant and predictable assumptions.

I knew it wasn't possible to convince anyone, but I thought that if the worst did happen, maybe even one person could take what they read here and make the right choices to save themselves and others, and perhaps survive. People are going to assume now what they will, and I am also fine with that, but who knows what will happen in the future? Maybe being prepared isn't such a bad idea, even now.. All anyone has to do is look at current global events and should be able to see for themselves with some deep thought and reflection that things have changed, and are in some cases even more unstable. It was a trade off you could say, one set of predictable evils for a new and unpredictable set.

None of us know what will happen now... It is all about choices.

Many people have assumed that we have free will, and choices and that there is no predetermined future, and to a degree that is correct, but if the future is already there... How can that be?

In life, every choice you make is already there, the only way to change that is to get you to make choices that you didn't have in your original timeline.

Some call it fate, some destiny. To deviate from either requires precise foreknowledge, and then you have to convince a person to make another choice, one they did not originally have.. That isn't easy, and often impossible. And that is why I didn't believe this could be stopped.

You can call what happened here a story, glad you enjoyed it.

It never really mattered to me what people thought of me, and it still doesn't.
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None of you really want to see how deep this rabbit hole goes, do you?

I'll check back later to see if someone has asked the right questions...

Adios
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I'd like to know who you alerted? How did you convince them?
Did they act by using drones?....is that what you are saying?

Did all the others see the same things exactly?

I'm not sure I understand what event finally convinced you it was "over"
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Also, do you know if this has happened before? Another people sharing timelines and ours being changed?

Who was following you months back that had you worried?
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I'd like to know who you alerted? How did you convince them?
Did they act by using drones?....is that what you are saying?
 Quoting: littlemiracles


There were a few occasions where "specific evidence, and intelligence" were provided to agencies anonymously, and actions were taken to destroy some key targets, the most important were in Pakistan.

"Did all the others see the same things exactly?"

Yes, but some had other information provided to them that was different, as each person was apparently chosen for their specific skills.

"I'm not sure I understand what event finally convinced you it was "over"

When it was certain that this threat, and the ability to develop it again had been completely eliminated, and the course had been changed and far enough away from the original timeline to make any return impossible that is when we knew, and it all happened at 11:00 GMT, March 31, 2013. At that moment in time (difficult to explain) the information streams ended, the "memories" gone! That future no longer exists to us now.
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The world is governed by Karma. The future trajectory of human kind is based on the collective karma of all human beings. Nothing escapes the law of cause and effect. And if the collective karma of all human beings dictates that they should suffer for their actions, then nothing can stop it from happening - not even a bunch of humans coming from future. Being a Buddhist, I call the OP's story as bullshit. If the action of human beings has been to plant to seeds of suffering, then it will happen no matter what. "Saving the human beings from disaster or from seeds of their karma" is like slashing the skin of your thighs to cover the injury on your arms. The law of karma is supreme.

I personally believe that the human beings are creating more and more negative karma, and that they will reap what they are sowing. All this pseudoscience of humans creating new futures is just that - pseudoscience.
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Also, do you know if this has happened before? Another people sharing timelines and ours being changed?
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I am sure that there have been other attempts and a few interventions over time and those caused some minor deviations in time, but nothing like this.

"Who was following you months back that had you worried?"

I don't know, but I believe that it is possible that there were other factions from the future who were opposed to this operation and attempted to counter any efforts to change history. They used similar methods of information sharing through time to get others to counter our efforts, and some of those drove a few of us away and into hiding.

The future that is gone...

Everything in the year 2457 isn't great, in fact it is a horrible place and time, the few islands of isolated humanity are the only survivors, and their existence beyond their current point in time is questionable. Their technological advancements were slower than you may assume, as the biological threats and wars that have been fought have left the world a unfriendly environment for life. They have advanced far beyond any of the technologies that we currently use, and yet their advancements were no match for a recurring deadly contagion.
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I'd like to know who you alerted? How did you convince them?
Did they act by using drones?....is that what you are saying?
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There were a few occasions where "specific evidence, and intelligence" were provided to agencies anonymously, and actions were taken to destroy some key targets, the most important were in Pakistan.

"Did all the others see the same things exactly?"

Yes, but some had other information provided to them that was different, as each person was apparently chosen for their specific skills.

"I'm not sure I understand what event finally convinced you it was "over"

When it was certain that this threat, and the ability to develop it again had been completely eliminated, and the course had been changed and far enough away from the original timeline to make any return impossible that is when we knew, and it all happened at 11:00 GMT, March 31, 2013. At that moment in time (difficult to explain) the information streams ended, the "memories" gone! That future no longer exists to us now.
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Have you figured out why you were chosen?
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04/07/2013 02:33 PM
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What I mean is that if humans have created the collective karma to face the wrath of a biological weapon, then even if as OP says that it was averted, they will suffer to the same extent by some other mode. It cannot be that after creating dense negative karma, humans can still live in peace with their karma forgiven by a supreme god. Same as when people take medicines to "cure" fever; they avert fever, but get some other side effects instead.

I have been telling OP that the CIA, FBI etc are agencies with deep penetrations into the middle East. They cannot be fooled so easily. Nobody listened.
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Also, do you know if this has happened before? Another people sharing timelines and ours being changed?
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I am sure that there have been other attempts and a few interventions over time and those caused some minor deviations in time, but nothing like this.

"Who was following you months back that had you worried?"

I don't know, but I believe that it is possible that there were other factions from the future who were opposed to this operation and attempted to counter any efforts to change history. They used similar methods of information sharing through time to get others to counter our efforts, and some of those drove a few of us away and into hiding.

The future that is gone...

Everything in the year 2457 isn't great, in fact it is a horrible place and time, the few islands of isolated humanity are the only survivors, and their existence beyond their current point in time is questionable. Their technological advancements were slower than you may assume, as the biological threats and wars that have been fought have left the world a unfriendly environment for life. They have advanced far beyond any of the technologies that we currently use, and yet their advancements were no match for a recurring deadly contagion.
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I don't know if I would want those "memories" that you were given...
It would be interesting as hell, but I suppose it would be hard to shake. I believe you said you are a Christian, how did this experience change your views and beliefs..if at all?

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