Welcome to the beginning of the end

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THIS

Watch out, you are gonna get attacked for being a doubting Thomas by the true believers.

Of course he won't...he's being respectful.
Not sarcastic, repetitive and annoying...

Nope, not this time, and more importantly, not with this particular "weapon" ... The terrorist cells have been eliminated, the people involved in the development of the weapon, eliminated, the weapon and all stored materials, eliminated, destroyed. The facilities and everyone involved have been also... eliminated.

"They" cannot be saved in their time by preventing this in ours.

How do I explain this so you can understand?

Lets say you have discovered the ability to send information back in time (not time travel), and decided to prevent WWII by providing that information to people you believe will act on that information to kill Hitler before he can rise to power. And by doing so, you allow a conservative government to gain power in Germany, there was no war, no holocaust, and you have changed history... How does that change the here and NOW?

It doesn't, nothing changes for us, you have created a new timeline. Before the changes you enabled, everything is the same for us, and for those on the new timeline. After those changes there are two futures, ours (unchanged) and the new one without WWII and Hitler.

The above was in response to this:

I'd rather deal with North Korean nukes, even if one of two actually get through our defenses and detonates over a US city, as bad as that would be, it is minor compared to what could have happened on our original timeline.

26 of us "in the know" came together... There are/were others that didn't want to be involved.

Well, I have slept longer and better over the last few days than I have in a couple of years.

Can't and wont speak for anyone else.

Relieved?

Kind of, but when you have seen what evil is capable of, and now faced with the unknown, it is difficult to be both relieved and optimistic... At least for now.

Nothing I do here and now, is going to change your perceptions of this reality.... You and many others are simply going to believe whatever you wish.

I never set out here to prove anything to anyone, or to gain anything from this, I honestly did NOT believe we could stop this. Can you imagine what it was like trying to get people to believe in this enough to take action to remove the threats?

I could present evidence here, but not without possibly implicating others and outing some that do not want to be exposed.

I posted this thread, from the beginning because of my personal doubts in our abilities to stop it, and it was decided that we'd plan for the worst, and to save who we could, also plan to survive. This thread made the secrecy easier for me to cope with, even it it was posted on a fringe site.

I could fill up pages explaining everything to you and, provide some evidence and in the end, you still will not understand or believe it.

"if it" for it it above^^

That is all for now, any other questions?

Almost forgot this one.

How do I know?

I know because the stream of information is gone, the future of our original timeline is gone to us forever now. We were shown how and when this would happen, and it did.

That was my first thought when this began happening to me. I actually sought out psychiatric help because I thought I was literally losing my mind. After two clinical evaluations I was told that I was suffering from mild depression, and given meds for that, which did nothing to help.

It began over two years ago, I was in Louisiana, it was winter, and it was a warm day (in the 60s) I stopped late in the afternoon at a rest area near the interstate... I got a blanket, a snack, drink and a book I had been wanting to read and found a nice spot under a tree, I watched what I thought was the most amazing and beautiful sunset I had ever seen, I don't know what happened, but I looked at the book I was reading and closed my eyes...

I opened them in what seemed like seconds later an I realized it had suddenly gotten dark and very cold, I blew and my breath, made dense smoke like steam, I shivered from the cold, odd I thought, then I looked at the time... just over 6 hours had passed in the blink of an eye... Literally!

From that moment on, I realized that I knew things I could not possibly know... I thought I was going crazy, and was having some kind of psychotic break, so I sought out psychiatric help..

Then I began not only knowing things but having what seemed like memories that were not really mine, in time I realized that some of these memories were of events that had not happened yet.. I investigated until I was certain in each case... Ultimately to where we are right now... The first person I met that had shared these experiences kept showing up at the same times and places where/when I was, and in time I approached and asked if they were following me... It was a relief to know at that time that I wasn't alone. In time we found others...All of us began working together, trying to figure out what we can or should do, who to tell etc...

let me be clear on this point. The attacks outlined in this thread, and with the biological weapon, will NOT happen, not only that, the ability to develop that particular weapon no longer exists.

Stuff happens, you know, like accidental gas leaks, and explosions, fires, and from time to time people are tragically trapped inside.

The sleeper cells are gone. The leadership taken out, their attack plans aimed to provoke were prevented. They no longer have any power or influence in the Middle East, and while a war with Iran may still happen, it cannot trigger the cells to attack us, as they are NOT there anymore.

Providing "intelligence" to the right people made drone strikes possible to destroy other key targets.

There are no lose ends here... None.

Will there be biological attacks in our new future?

I am sure there will be, alone with a multitude of of other man-made and natural catastrophes... The time and severity are for now, unknown and completely unpredictable.

Evil finds a way, it always does.

Any questions?

If not, I am going away for a while, quite a while actually. I plan to enjoy LIFE again, while I still can.

I'll answer what I can, within some limits.

Leaving in two days...

I knew from the opening post, where I was posting, and that people would make the instant and predictable assumptions.

I knew it wasn't possible to convince anyone, but I thought that if the worst did happen, maybe even one person could take what they read here and make the right choices to save themselves and others, and perhaps survive. People are going to assume now what they will, and I am also fine with that, but who knows what will happen in the future? Maybe being prepared isn't such a bad idea, even now.. All anyone has to do is look at current global events and should be able to see for themselves with some deep thought and reflection that things have changed, and are in some cases even more unstable. It was a trade off you could say, one set of predictable evils for a new and unpredictable set.

None of us know what will happen now... It is all about choices.

Many people have assumed that we have free will, and choices and that there is no predetermined future, and to a degree that is correct, but if the future is already there... How can that be?

In life, every choice you make is already there, the only way to change that is to get you to make choices that you didn't have in your original timeline.

Some call it fate, some destiny. To deviate from either requires precise foreknowledge, and then you have to convince a person to make another choice, one they did not originally have.. That isn't easy, and often impossible. And that is why I didn't believe this could be stopped.

You can call what happened here a story, glad you enjoyed it.

It never really mattered to me what people thought of me, and it still doesn't.

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None of you really want to see how deep this rabbit hole goes, do you?

I'll check back later to see if someone has asked the right questions...

Adios

I'd like to know who you alerted? How did you convince them?
Did they act by using drones?....is that what you are saying?

Did all the others see the same things exactly?

I'm not sure I understand what event finally convinced you it was "over"

Also, do you know if this has happened before? Another people sharing timelines and ours being changed?

Who was following you months back that had you worried?

There were a few occasions where "specific evidence, and intelligence" were provided to agencies anonymously, and actions were taken to destroy some key targets, the most important were in Pakistan.

"Did all the others see the same things exactly?"

Yes, but some had other information provided to them that was different, as each person was apparently chosen for their specific skills.

"I'm not sure I understand what event finally convinced you it was "over"

When it was certain that this threat, and the ability to develop it again had been completely eliminated, and the course had been changed and far enough away from the original timeline to make any return impossible that is when we knew, and it all happened at 11:00 GMT, March 31, 2013. At that moment in time (difficult to explain) the information streams ended, the "memories" gone! That future no longer exists to us now.

The world is governed by Karma. The future trajectory of human kind is based on the collective karma of all human beings. Nothing escapes the law of cause and effect. And if the collective karma of all human beings dictates that they should suffer for their actions, then nothing can stop it from happening - not even a bunch of humans coming from future. Being a Buddhist, I call the OP's story as bullshit. If the action of human beings has been to plant to seeds of suffering, then it will happen no matter what. "Saving the human beings from disaster or from seeds of their karma" is like slashing the skin of your thighs to cover the injury on your arms. The law of karma is supreme.

I personally believe that the human beings are creating more and more negative karma, and that they will reap what they are sowing. All this pseudoscience of humans creating new futures is just that - pseudoscience.

I am sure that there have been other attempts and a few interventions over time and those caused some minor deviations in time, but nothing like this.

"Who was following you months back that had you worried?"

I don't know, but I believe that it is possible that there were other factions from the future who were opposed to this operation and attempted to counter any efforts to change history. They used similar methods of information sharing through time to get others to counter our efforts, and some of those drove a few of us away and into hiding.

The future that is gone...

Everything in the year 2457 isn't great, in fact it is a horrible place and time, the few islands of isolated humanity are the only survivors, and their existence beyond their current point in time is questionable. Their technological advancements were slower than you may assume, as the biological threats and wars that have been fought have left the world a unfriendly environment for life. They have advanced far beyond any of the technologies that we currently use, and yet their advancements were no match for a recurring deadly contagion.

Have you figured out why you were chosen?

What I mean is that if humans have created the collective karma to face the wrath of a biological weapon, then even if as OP says that it was averted, they will suffer to the same extent by some other mode. It cannot be that after creating dense negative karma, humans can still live in peace with their karma forgiven by a supreme god. Same as when people take medicines to "cure" fever; they avert fever, but get some other side effects instead.

I have been telling OP that the CIA, FBI etc are agencies with deep penetrations into the middle East. They cannot be fooled so easily. Nobody listened.

I don't know if I would want those "memories" that you were given...
It would be interesting as hell, but I suppose it would be hard to shake. I believe you said you are a Christian, how did this experience change your views and beliefs..if at all?

I see what you are saying about the Karma

You have no idea how many times I have asked "why me" ... All I really wanted was those 6 missing hours back, and for none of this to have happened.

In short, no, we just assumed that there must have been some reason each of us were chosen, and a few did have skills and access to things that would make sense. They were uniquely qualified you could say, others, like myself were simply left wondering why.. I still don't know for sure.

Please explain what you mean by "they cannot be fooled"

The who and how don't matter. The tools never matter. I am curious as to why? All that was done will only serve to delay the inevitable. As stated in previous posts evil will always find a way. It sounds as though all we've done is eliminate a "known" enemy and left ourselves with an unknown future.

This could be good, or it could be bad. History and human nature has me leaning towards the latter. So again why? My guess is that in order to understand the why you must go much deeper down the rabbit hole, in which case, yes I do want to know. Why? Because that's the type of person I am...

It was more than just the memories, but dealing with a few of those can leave you an emotional wreck, I know, can you imagine witnessing and experiencing this, until the end?

My religious beliefs are still intact, though I am not so inclined to believe in some of mankind's interpretations of God's words and will. More importantly I have come to know how easily religion, and especially faith can be perverted and used by more sinister, and evil elements, of this world and the hereafter.

This^^

Also, what are the spiritual ramifications of your experience? What do you deem the "Source?" Is it more Matrix or, more something else??

Thank you in advance...