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Is it better to be aware and awake or blisfully ignorant?

 
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"All good people are asleep and dreaming."
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Aware.
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I have a 3 year old daughter

I want her to be aware
to question everything
I don't want her to become an "average" American

but...

its not fun to know
its not fun to care

its impossible to win

ignorance is bliss

I have some time to decide
for now
life is a fairytale
and she is my little princess

sheep
Doom on!
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Depend what do you get in matrix.

If you are chewing on a piece of juicy steak. why the heck you want to wake up?
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I would say it is better to be awake than asleep. But in that one will learn that nothing is what it seems. This causes great distrust and unrest. So, if you choose to be awake, make sure there is someone or something that you trust absolutely. You need the anchor. For me it is God.
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For me its myself.
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If you're in a position to do something about it, it's probably better to be aware.

If you can't do a thing to change it, it's probably better to be ignorant.

There's a reason smarter people are more likely to be depressed.
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the blisfully ignorant are seldom blisfull
they dont even know who to be angry at
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I choose to be ignorantly aware and blissfully assleep with
both eyes wide open, ears trained, and pie hole shut. YMMV.
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Re: Is it better to be aware and awake or blisfully ignorant?
It's best to be blissfully aware, of course :)

Understand the ugliness of the world, and make peace with it emotionally, even as you strive to make the world a better place.

As for the fightback, yes, of course you're going to get the fightback... you're trying to rouse someone from a deep slumber... be prepared for a swing to the jaw. When you don't get that kind of response it's because they were half-awake and trying to get up already.

If you can successfully wake up a sleeper, once they are fully awake they will stop swinging. But many sleep as if they are desperately tired... bring your thickest skin when attempting, and be prepared for a high failure to success ratio.
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I would say it is better to be awake than asleep. But in that one will learn that nothing is what it seems. This causes great distrust and unrest. So, if you choose to be awake, make sure there is someone or something that you trust absolutely. You need the anchor. For me it is God.
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For me its myself.
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I am my anchor as well. This takes a certain groundedness in knowing who you are (separate from any context). It's not something you necessarily need to put into words, it's just something you feel... you KNOW who you are when things are at their most chaotic..the core of you, the thing that makes you strive to be the best you that you can be...and this will guide you. Always. Any situation.

I see that God works as an anchor for some. I'm happy if it does for them. The only thing I worry about is that sometimes people stop believing in god, or start to be less certain about it. Then, this doubt can uproot your anchor. That could be devastating because then the person will truly feel there is "nothing to believe in" ...I think it could cause an emotional collapse or worse.

So, even if God is your anchor, please know that you can also be your own anchor. If you should ever find your religion lets you down, there is still something to believe in, and it's been with you this whole time. If you can't find God anymore, find yourself... the core of yourself. (Protip: if you think your core is ugly, you are not looking at the core. You're looking at a surface fault. Dig deeper.)
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If I could take some sort of pill or have an operation done on my brain to make me as fucking stupid as everyone else and start caring and talking about football and dancing with the stars around the watercooler and listening and enjoying radio music and fantasizing about the day when I will finally be able to afford a specific model of car that I jack off over, I'd have it done in a heartbeat.
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lol

I call this stuff mental junkfood and for the longest time I couldn't figure out why I couldn't get much of a taste for it. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind a bite now and again, but it isn't long before I find it sickening, so I don't have much. But many people these days are like addicts, aren't they? I wonder if our culture is more addicted to mental junkfood than they were in the past, just because it's so readily available everywhere and in so many forms.
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I am glad I found out about the financial doom because you can prepare for that pretty well (gold and silver) but the other stuff is completely out of my control and I wish I never knew about it. I used to be a much happier person and able to go out and socialize easily. Now I tend to worry more and not want to socialize as much because I know how meaningless the topics are that people talk about these days.

I have turned into a worrier with all this stuff going on. It is not healthy and I know I need to get away from sites like GLP but I can't. I HAVE TO know what is going on. It's an endless cycle of checking GLP to try and be informed but it leads to worrying.

So yes, I really wish I was still blisfully ignorant. I would be enjoying life more for the future and if something happened then so be it. Now I have woke up and just worry about things, because there is nothing I can do it about (such WWIII, sun doom, diseases, etc.)
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You are early on in the process, obviously. You are overshooting. I know you might have trouble believing me but it is ok to take a break from GLP. The horrible thing you fear happening, or crucial piece of info being dropped, will not happen the day you don't visit GLP. If you go two days, it won't happen during those two days either. Etc. And yet, I'm not saying that GLP isn't a useful resource for world news. It is, it's just not your lifeline in an emergency you may perceive. We are NOT in an emergency right now and it will NOT happen overnight, you WILL have warning signs, even if you never visit GLP again! But checking in with GLP periodically is a good way to stay up to date on how things are looking.

In a way, I think the occasional broad IP range bans GLP does are good in a way because they help you realize that yes, it is ok not to know what's going on on GLP today...or this week.

Until your visits here are similar emotionally to the way an average person opens up a newspaper - more curiosity than dread - you have not found the right balance yet. I don't say this to put you down, I can only know this because I did the exact same thing myself in the beginning.
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BOTH.

Awake, aware, and acute understanding of what is at hand. But, it's GREAT to be blissfully "ignorant" of the bullshit and fucktardery (douchebaggery) around you.

Block out the numbtards, my friend. ;)


TeCh®
Keep fighting the good fight - It's right in front of us...

-TeCh®
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Definitely aware. And BTW OP, everything you wrote is right on. Once i achieved a certain level of knowledge I felt so empowered that I wanted to thump people over the head. I have captivated small crowds who listened intently to what I had to say. I sincerely felt I was giving them the gift of life. But more often then not they would recoil in shock at the long list of indisputable vetted facts I've learned to rattle off the top of my head. It can be far too much for most folks.

The janitor at WTC, I think his name was Rodriquez, stated this: "The conspiracy wasn't intended to trick the critical thinker. It was designed to give the moral coward a means of escape.". I always thought that was a brilliant statement since once you see the truth in all its wonderous horror, you feel compelled to act. To do something. Most people can't make that step. After all they ARE moral cowards.

I graduated from church and religion during my childhood. I thought all of it preposterous. A club for low brows. But as I read the Bible cover to cover I remember one verse and it said something to the effect that everyone shall be held accountable for their unwillingness to open their minds. Indeed one's ignorance is a choice and they shall be punished for it.

So keep digging. After 3500 non-fiction books and countless other sources I can say that there will never be a shortage of secrets. And as far as your BF goes, perhaps it is time he find genuine blis. If you surround yourself with pigeons, how can you soar like an eagle. Good luck.
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Strange, but people who say they are aware seem to be ignorant, but those who say they are ignorant are much more aware.

Also, those who lack competence then to have too much confidence and those who are quite competent are more cautious.

I try to embrace my ignorance and focus on asking questions.
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It's not strange. It's the Dunning-Kruger effect.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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depending on you
wheater you are apathic or empathic
all will twist around your perception

there are many frustrated souls unable to connect with their bodies, all happenings only in dreams or accidents, but the "owner" is not aware of this mechanism (conscious limit)
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OP did you delete my comment!? It wasn't bad wth?!
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Re: Is it better to be aware and awake or blisfully ignorant?
Definately glad I have woken up.

I know now that I do not have to play their games at all.

They never disclosed the truth or the rules, therefore I reject their game.

peace
 Quoting: teraustralis


as a general concept, isn't being awake about supporting others as oppossed to rejecting others ??
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For many years now, physicians have had the highest suicide rate compared to people in any other line of work.

I think this may be because many of them discover that the population is being systematically poisoned and there is nothing they can do about it.
No one has ever seen a perfect circle, nor a perfectly straight line, yet everyone knows what a circle and a straight line are.
Perceived circles or lines are not exactly circular or straight, and true circles and lines could never be detected since by definition they are sets of infinitely small points.
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Re: Is it better to be aware and awake or blisfully ignorant?
Blissfully ignorant of the world is a good thing...stay in your happy place is a happy healthy way.

If you learn the ways of the world you will learn evil.

So only learn what is filtered though your own perspective eyeballs or ears to your brain.

Rearrange what ever enters them into the reject pile or accept pile...

Not all truth is good..if it is in the world it is not good truth.

So prune it with a hair cut or wash it or put it in the reject pile if it can not be salvaged as keep-able truth or flat out lie.
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If knowledge is your pursuit, ignorance is an enemy. So many cliches are rooted in truth (heavy is the head that wears the crown). All I know is this reality gets more difficult the deeper I dig. The only truth I have learnt for certain is to follow the instincts of my gut. It has never been wrong. Life will bring pain to the ignorant and the enlightened so I would rather have something to show for my pain and continue to search as my gut tells me to.
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I like your way of thinking
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Im both and neither ! See whats on the otherside already! kissses
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If you're in a position to do something about it, it's probably better to be aware.

If you can't do a thing to change it, it's probably better to be ignorant.

There's a reason smarter people are more likely to be depressed.
 Quoting: TurkeyTots


Exactly. It's either become depressed from being too aware, or play along, which is hard to do all the time.
 Quoting: MartianPrincess


I never understood the saying "Ignorance is bliss" but unfortunately now i do....
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Why does being aware mean, every stone you turn, all you find is more vermin? When does the good/positive manifest? There certainly is no lotto to win at the end of it, and on the journey, well, I almost feel like I'm dragging my scrotum down a jagged path of broken glass. Maybe being blissful and flat out ignorant is better, except that instead of electric koolaid, you get the Jim Jones flavor.
"I have an angel on my shoulder, but a devil in my head"
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Being awake and aware was the best thing to happen to me.

I spent most of my life feeling everything around me was wrong but couldn't find out the what or the why. With the internet it has become much easier to research and debunk.

Knowledge is a dangerous thing for your mind which is why it is important to not dwell on the knowledge. Allow the thoughts to enter your mind but don't focus on them. Share if people ask the questions but don't force the answers on people who don't really want the questions answered.

The most important thing is to spend time also trying to debunk what you've uncovered. You'll be surprised how much you can debunk when you put your mind to it. Debunking keeps your mind sharp and allows you to see patterns between truth and fiction.

We will all play an important part in unfolding events. Having a clear mind when all around you is chaos will be the biggest help for the people plunged into our World without choice. There are a lot of claims out there that would frighten most people but having a large "debunked" and "verified" pool will aide clarity of mind for you and others.

peace
Be the change you want the World to be. Be someone that makes you happy.
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many forgot their drives
curiosity is one of the propulsions
love is another


hf
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Sometimes people think that being negative or assuming negatively abut a situation is being aware. Sometimes it is and sometimes it's not.

Yes, there is a great deal of negativity on this planet. And there is a lot of goodness.

At the moment, I'm believing that the negative realms are in charge of an awful lot. That doesn't mean everyone who is in an industry is evil. But it seems that right now, more people are accepting negativity almost as a pack mentality.

What did you see in the world of music?
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Aware and awake: [link to www.truthism.com]

hf
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many forgot their drives
curiosity is one of the propulsions
love is another


hf
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For me understanding the connectivity of all things removed the separation tools most live by. Seeing the tools in action showed me whats behind it and why they want it hidden so desperately.

Unity and love are the keys to unlock all doors and they have the power to change everything. Living in this can already change your own reality, uniting in this will change the World.

peace
Be the change you want the World to be. Be someone that makes you happy.
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If I could take some sort of pill or have an operation done on my brain to make me as fucking stupid as everyone else and start caring and talking about football and dancing with the stars around the watercooler and listening and enjoying radio music and fantasizing about the day when I will finally be able to afford a specific model of car that I jack off over, I'd have it done in a heartbeat.
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THIS.

I live in Hollywood so you can imagine the kind of people I'm around on a day to day basis.

Sometimes I really do envy their obliviousness. They have their pretentious clothes and their pretentious cars and their pretentious friends and it really, truly seems to be enough for them. I chameleon myself among them pretty well because I have to -- I work here -- but it ain't easy. It's never comfortable. :(

Sigh.

hf
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Hello Scorpio Sister. For the most part I prefer being "awake" but there are those occasions, when I try to talk to others about what *I* see going on in the world and they just stare at me like I am a complete loon then go back to playing with their shiny objects. It is on those occasions that I wish I was still blissfully ignorant and more interested in shopping, reality TV, and appearances. It can be a lonely world when you are surrounded by people who could care less about what is going on because "OMG! THE NEW iPHONE IS COMING OUT AND I JUST HAAAAAAVE TO HAVE ONE AND DID YOU HEAR SNOOKIE IS PREGNANT AND KIM AND REGGIE ARE BACK TOGETHER?!?!?!"

So this morning I get into an argument for speaking my mind. My bf has more of an idealistic perspective of things in general vs my realist views (He's a Pisces, I'm a Scorpio). I was once naive and idealistic myself, but I've always kept an open mind because I can sense when there's more than meets the eye.
Being a Scorpio, I have strong opinions that I am not afraid to voice. People who don't know Scorpio often feel like we're trying to force our opinion on others when we're merely voicing or defending our standpoint.
I've always sensed something "dark" behind the scenes of both Political and Entertinment arenas. I was briefly part of the entertainment industry at some point and I got out as soon as I could. I've never truly delved into the whole Illuminati/MK Ultra stuff bc, incredibly as it sounds, I was more afraid of finding that there's truth to it. (Ignorance is bliss)
Having read some of the Jessica Simpson MTV house thread, which led to other sites with even more incredible info, as always I did my own research, only to find that the rabbit hole is much, much deeper than I ever believed possible. As we discussed this topic this morning, I remarked how anyone who's anyone, has had to give up either body or soul, or both, to get there and stay there. Even someone as innocent-looking as Taylor Swift, it's all a show. Wow, you'd think I'd just cursed out his mother because he started to go off about how the Country music industry isn't like that (LOL) and how she's not doing anything bad and etc. It was then that I realized that many people do NOT want to be aware...as much as they can keep an open mind and as much as they know that there is something very wrong with the world, they REFUSE to believe it. They don't want to see the world as it is, they want to continue to wear the rose-colored glasses. I was called a cynic....which I may be, although I think I'm more "jaded" than anything, I simply cannot carry on living and pretending like we don't live in absolute horrible times.
I can forget enough to enjoy life, but I find that the things that make me happy at this stage in my life aren't on tv or on the radio. Classical music, world music, the fine arts, writing, science, literature, nature, that's the type of stuff that brings true joy and fulfillment to my heart and the more "aware" I become, the more I see how people are mindless robots and I find it hard to play the same game.
Does anyone else ever wish they were just blissfully ignorant like the rest of the sheep and not tortured by the terrifying violence, corruption and depravity that is our current reality?
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