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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9302520 Australia 03/06/2012 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Proposed New Mental Health Bill Australia Children to be Sterilized. 12 Year Olds Can Consent to Psychosurgery and Electroshock! A great lifestyle, simple enjoyment of a great piece of property, from what I heard. I've never been to Australia but people seemed to enjoy living there a lot. Those days are over. The transition to a police state has been swift due to the fact we were never officially a sovereign nation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4596203 United States 03/06/2012 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Proposed New Mental Health Bill Australia Children to be Sterilized. 12 Year Olds Can Consent to Psychosurgery and Electroshock! Why is this happening in Australia, can some local explain it? (Not that our Congress is much better these days in the USA.) Are the abo's getting uppity, or what? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4596203 I dunno, but have you ever heard of the Aussies taking the streets in protest or anything of the sort? They seem to take whatever the government dishes them without any protest. Yeah they don't have any revolutionary history to speak of. At least we can pretend that the upper-class feud that became our Revolutionary War, that was settled on neutral terms (but hey that's better than we had any right to expect), showed us to be brave and independent. Chasing Cornwallis up and down the east coast for a few years was at least something. Australia has done nothing like that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 United States 03/06/2012 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Proposed New Mental Health Bill Australia Children to be Sterilized. 12 Year Olds Can Consent to Psychosurgery and Electroshock! Other than sterilization of females who are carriers of hemophilia or some other health condition that would threaten the life of the girl upon onset of menstruation, I CANNOT think of a single reason why ANY 12-year-old WHO IS MENTALLY ABLE TO EVEN UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OF "CONSENT" should EVER be sterilized. Quoting: Biochemky In other words, ANY child who would offer their consent to STERILIZATION at the age of 12 OTHER THAN THE VERY NARROW REASON CITED ABOVE is obviously not competent to be able to make that decision. Go ahead, give a counterargument...I'm waiting. Oz, you are devolving FAST into fascism. The rise of fascism is the only reason I can come up with for "the state" to seek to provide rights of consent to mere 12-year-olds that have historically been reserved for adults (individuals 18 years old or older). Today's fascists must want 12-year-olds to be able to join fascism-promoting youth organizations that are akin to the Hitler Youth of the 1930s and 1940s without parental consent. Good luck, Oz. You damn well better start pushing back on these severely misguided policies "the state" is foisting on the youngest among your ranks. Female hemophiliacs do not bleed to death when they get their period. Menstruation is not a cut. It is a build up of tissue. So there is no threat of bleeding to death just maybe a heavier period. And hemophilia in women is very rare. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4596203 United States 03/06/2012 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Proposed New Mental Health Bill Australia Children to be Sterilized. 12 Year Olds Can Consent to Psychosurgery and Electroshock! A great lifestyle, simple enjoyment of a great piece of property, from what I heard. I've never been to Australia but people seemed to enjoy living there a lot. Those days are over. The transition to a police state has been swift due to the fact we were never officially a sovereign nation. You had a vote on displacing the Queen just a few years ago didn't you? Was your vote to keep her, viewed by you probably as a vote for continuation of the nice status-quo, taken by "them" as permission to remove benefits that generally accrue to those not affiliated with a distant monarch? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9302520 Australia 03/06/2012 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Proposed New Mental Health Bill Australia Children to be Sterilized. 12 Year Olds Can Consent to Psychosurgery and Electroshock! A great lifestyle, simple enjoyment of a great piece of property, from what I heard. I've never been to Australia but people seemed to enjoy living there a lot. Those days are over. The transition to a police state has been swift due to the fact we were never officially a sovereign nation. You had a vote on displacing the Queen just a few years ago didn't you? Was your vote to keep her, viewed by you probably as a vote for continuation of the nice status-quo, taken by "them" as permission to remove benefits that generally accrue to those not affiliated with a distant monarch? Which has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Australians have been hoodwinked into believing they've been sovereign since 1901. Likewise, the US since it went bankrupt in 1913. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 United States 03/06/2012 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Proposed New Mental Health Bill Australia Children to be Sterilized. 12 Year Olds Can Consent to Psychosurgery and Electroshock! Coincidence that the Roman Catholic Church has recently hinted at raising the age of Consent to 12 YO? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11515669 They said if the age of sexual consent were to be dropped to 12, then 90% of molestation cases against the church would be voided. Connect the dots... The church is coming for your pre-teen boy or girl. Protect your kids damn it. Teach them how to protect themselves. Exactly. Start teaching them early to stand up for themselves and that people do not always have their best interests at heart. Teach them to be wise and discerning. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 United States 03/06/2012 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Proposed New Mental Health Bill Australia Children to be Sterilized. 12 Year Olds Can Consent to Psychosurgery and Electroshock! Other than sterilization of females who are carriers of hemophilia or some other health condition that would threaten the life of the girl upon onset of menstruation, I CANNOT think of a single reason why ANY 12-year-old WHO IS MENTALLY ABLE TO EVEN UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OF "CONSENT" should EVER be sterilized. Quoting: Biochemky In other words, ANY child who would offer their consent to STERILIZATION at the age of 12 OTHER THAN THE VERY NARROW REASON CITED ABOVE is obviously not competent to be able to make that decision. Go ahead, give a counterargument...I'm waiting. Oz, you are devolving FAST into fascism. The rise of fascism is the only reason I can come up with for "the state" to seek to provide rights of consent to mere 12-year-olds that have historically been reserved for adults (individuals 18 years old or older). Today's fascists must want 12-year-olds to be able to join fascism-promoting youth organizations that are akin to the Hitler Youth of the 1930s and 1940s without parental consent. Good luck, Oz. You damn well better start pushing back on these severely misguided policies "the state" is foisting on the youngest among your ranks. Legally, we're not even sovereign. It's one big testing colony for the City of London - no freedom of speech, illegal to act in self-defence, compulsory voting, no bill of human rights and personally, I no longer give a shit. Compulsory voting should be called compulsory turnout because with secret ballots they cannot tell who has or has not voted. They can't see what you have done. But no matter, it is wrong to try to make someone do something against their will. It is a waste of time making people turnout for something when they can turn in a blank or sham ballot. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11923029 Canada 03/06/2012 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Proposed New Mental Health Bill Australia Children to be Sterilized. 12 Year Olds Can Consent to Psychosurgery and Electroshock! You can't blame them for being handicap neither can you blame there parents its all the toxins in our food that have been proven to have links to development of mental illnesses. The only reason people still have them is because people don't want to cure it they want to make money off the medication. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12032608 Australia 03/06/2012 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Proposed New Mental Health Bill Australia Children to be Sterilized. 12 Year Olds Can Consent to Psychosurgery and Electroshock! for those that dont get the sovriegnty stuff here [link to abundanthope.net] sites religous ,nonetheles,has a good summary |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1340117 United States 03/06/2012 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Proposed New Mental Health Bill Australia Children to be Sterilized. 12 Year Olds Can Consent to Psychosurgery and Electroshock! This is why I want to change the world. Maybe I can do something maybe not, either way Justice WILL BE DONE!! God will punish these people and I honestly look forward to the day. BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1317751 Canada 03/06/2012 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Proposed New Mental Health Bill Australia Children to be Sterilized. 12 Year Olds Can Consent to Psychosurgery and Electroshock! Seems to me they should introduce a new bill to euthanize whoever drafted this bill, or at the very least sterilize them as it is obvious they really should not be breeding. Things are indeed swinging around and returning to some of the mindset that existed back around WW II are they not? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4596203 United States 03/06/2012 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Proposed New Mental Health Bill Australia Children to be Sterilized. 12 Year Olds Can Consent to Psychosurgery and Electroshock! Coincidence that the Roman Catholic Church has recently hinted at raising the age of Consent to 12 YO? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11515669 They said if the age of sexual consent were to be dropped to 12, then 90% of molestation cases against the church would be voided. Connect the dots... The church is coming for your pre-teen boy or girl. Protect your kids damn it. Teach them how to protect themselves. Exactly. Start teaching them early to stand up for themselves and that people do not always have their best interests at heart. Teach them to be wise and discerning. My fifth grader's elementary school is determined to teach him to obey authority. There are multiple adults he comes in contact with in school who treat him dishonestly, teacher and aides, and if he asks them a question that makes them uneasy, they say he's being disrespectful. True, they are right and he is doing so because they deserve no respect, but still he's small and they are big, and he's rightly somewhat scared of them. This school experience has been really sick. The teacher hates him and treats him very unfairly. Not everyone in the school hates independent thinkers, but there is a cabal that does, that runs all the way to the top in my school district. But people like this are low quality, they make mistakes, and so they can be embarrassed and eventually forced to do the right thing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9238369 Australia 03/07/2012 12:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Proposed New Mental Health Bill Australia Children to be Sterilized. 12 Year Olds Can Consent to Psychosurgery and Electroshock! [link to www.cchr.org.au] WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS DRAFT BILL?: The W.A. Mental Health Commission (MHC) was responsible for writing the Draft Mental Health Bill. The person overseeing this was the Mental Health Commissioner and clinical psychologist, Mr Eddie Bartnik. The MHC was allocated a budget of more than half a billion dollars in 2010/2011 for W.A.'s mental health system (this is up 37% from 2007/08)12 W.A. spends more per capita on mental health services than any other state in Australia.13 |