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Italian Satellite TV to Broadcast Evidence of US Use of Chemical Weapons on Civilians

Mon Nov 07, 2005 at 09:08:19 AM PDT
Italian media going full-bore on the Bush Administration. After its revelations on the subterfuge behind the Nigergate forgeries, documentary evidence of the use by US troops of phosphorus and a new formulaton of napalm [MK77] on the Sunni civilian population will be broadcast tomorrow on international satellite TV. Global coverage of the atrocity, folks.

paper tigress´s diary :: ::
A news program on Italian satellite TV, RAI News 24, has substantiated the claim that the US military has been exploiting the dual use of white phosporus. In its siege of Fallujah, the chemical was used on the civilian populace. The story is in today´s Repubblica. The Bush Adminstration and the DoD are about to be shamed before the eyes of the world.

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Shocking revelation RAI News 24. Use of chemical weapons by the US military in Iraq. Veteran admits: Bodies melted away before us.

White phosphorous used on the civilian populace: This is how the US "took" Fallujah.

New napalm formula also used.

ROME. In soldier slang they call it Willy Pete. The technical name is white phosphorus. In theory its purpose is to illumine enemy positions in the dark. In practice, it was used as a chemical weapon in the rebel stronghold of Fallujah. And it was used not only against enemy combatants and guerrillas, but again innocent civilians. The Americans are responsible for a massacre using unconventional weapons, the identical charge for which Saddam Hussein stands accused. An investigation by RAI News 24, the all-news Italian satellite television channel, has pulled the veil from one of the most carefully concealed mysteries from the front in the entire US military campaign in Iraq.

A US veteran of the Iraq war told RAI New correspondent Sigfrido Ranucci this: I received the order use caution because we had used white phosphorus on Fallujah. In military slag it is called ´Willy Pete´. Phosphorus burns the human body on contact--it even melts it right down to the bone.

RAI News 24´s investigative story, Fallujah, The Concealed Massacre, will be broadcast tomorrow on RAI-3 and will contain not only eye-witness accounts by US military personnel but those from Fallujah residents. A rain of fire descended on the city. People who were exposed to those multicolored substance began to burn. We found people with bizarre wounds-their bodies burned but their clothes intact, relates Mohamad Tareq al-Deraji, a biologist and Fallujah resident.

I gathered accounts of the use of phosphorus and napalm from a few Fallujah refugees whom I met before being kidnapped, says Manifesto reporter Giuliana Sgrena, who was kidnapped in Fallujah last February, in a recorded interview. I wanted to get the story out, but my kidnappers would not permit it.

RAI News 24 will broadcast video and photographs taken in the Iraqi city during and after the November 2004 bombardment which prove that the US military, contrary to statements in a December 9 communiqué from the US Department of State, did not use phosphorus to illuminate enemy positions (which would have been legitimate) but instend dropped white phosphorus indiscriminately and in massive quantities on the city´s neighborhoods.

In the investigative story, produced by Maurizio Torrealta, dramatic footage is shown revealing the effects of the bombardment on civilians, women and children, some of whom were surprised in their sleep.

The investigation will also broadcast documentary proof of the use in Iraq of a new napalm formula called MK77. The use of the incendiary substance on civilians is forbidden by a 1980 UN treaty. The use of chemical weapons is forbidden by a treaty which the US signed in 1997

Fallujah. La strage nascosta [Fallujah, The Concealed Massacre] will be shown on RAI News tomorrow November 8th at 07:35 (via HOT BIRDTM statellite, Sky Channel 506 and RAI-3), and rebroadcast by HOT BIRDTM satellite and Sky Channel 506 at 17:00 [5 pm] and over the next two days.
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I guess they brought the wmd´s with them...
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This isnt the only time, please give more links if anyone has more info.
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US ´uses incendiary arms´ in Iraq

The US assault began exactly a year ago
Italian state TV, Rai, has broadcast a documentary accusing the US military of using of phosphorus bombs against civilians in the Iraqi city of Falluja.

In the film, eyewitnesses and ex-US soldiers who served in Iraq said white phosphorus bombs were used in built-up areas in the insurgent-held city.

Rai says this amounts to the illegal use of chemical arms, though such bombs are considered incendiary devices.

The US military admits using the weapon in Iraq to illuminate battlefields.

But US military officials deny using it in built-up areas. Washington is not a signatory of an international treaty restricting white phosphorus devices.

Map showing Iraqi cities of Baghdad and Falluja
Transmission of the documentary comes a day after the arrival of Iraqi President Jalal Talabani on a five-day official visit to Italy.

It also coincides with the first anniversary of the US-led assault on Falluja, which displaced most of the city´s 300,000 population and left many of its buildings destroyed.

The documentary was shown between 0730 and 0800 in the morning on Rai´s rolling news channel with a warning that the some of the footage would be disturbing.

The future of the 3,000-strong Italian peacekeeping contingent in Iraq is the subject of a political tug-of-war, says BBC correspondent David Willey.

´Destroyed evidence´

The documentary began with formerly classified footage of the Americans using Napalm bombs during the Vietnam war.

It shows a series of photographs of corpses with the flesh burnt off but clothes still intact - which it says is consistent with effect of white phosphorus on humans.

The film also says Washington has systematically attempted to destroy filmed evidence of the alleged use of white phosphorus on civilians in Falluja.

Italian public opinion has been consistently against the war and the Rai documentary can only reinforce calls here for a pullout of Italian soldiers as soon as possible, our correspondent says.

Both the Italian government and opposition leaders are talking about a phased withdrawal in 2006.

President Talabani and the US say the continued presence of multi-national forces in Iraq is essential.
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snipped>>>>>>>>>

A reporter from the Sydney Morning Herald who witnessed another napalm attack on 21 March on an Iraqi observation post at Safwan Hill, close to the Kuwaiti border, wrote the following day: "Safwan Hill went up in a huge fireball and the observation post was obliterated. ´I pity anyone who is in there,´ a Marine sergeant said. ´We told them to surrender.´"

At the time, the Pentagon insisted the report was untrue. "We completed destruction of our last batch of napalm on 4 April, 2001," it said.

The revelation that napalm was used in the war against Iraq, while the Pentagon denied it, has outraged opponents of the war. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


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from 2003 but worthy of addition as a reminder:

[link to www.theage.com.au]



Group counts civilian toll

London
August 8, 2003


About 20,000 civilians were wounded in the Iraq war and the US-British occupiers were ignoring their suffering, a research group said, in what it termed the first study of the war´s casualty toll. "The maimed civilians of Iraq have been brushed under the carpet," the Iraq Body Count said.

The Anglo-American group of academics and peace activists chided US and British postwar administrators for failing to set up programs for the wounded or pay compensation. "A sizeable, if as yet unknown, proportion of Iraqi families will contain a relative whose life was ended or put on hold by the US or British forces," it said in a report on its website.

The figures were based on news reports and counting by independent investigators up to July 6. The group said the reluctance to calculate the number of civilian wounded was inexcusable.

- Reuters

For updated info

[link to www.iraqbodycount.net]
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watch for a natural disaster tragedy in italy.
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phosphorus illumination rounds are used by just about every army on earth, for a long time.
You know in all those war movies when they can´t see an emeny in the dark, so they shoot a round into the air and it slowly falls to earth, brightly lighting up the battlefield? That´s what it is. It´s hardly new, or unique to America.
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This is not phosphorus illumination rounds. It´s MK77 napalm with phosphorus to make sure it burns you even if you jump into water. It´s napalm only worse.
And it´s a crime against humanity.
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The only surprise is why anyone should be surprised.

War is a dirty filthy business and there´s no such thing as a ´clean´ kill. It´s kill or be killed and if civillians inconveniently get in the way then to quote a man; "Stuff happens".

The US for what ever reasons decided to invade a country on cobbled up evidence that it was an international threat to peace. Uncle Sadam was a vile dictator but he was not a world player. Despite all his bluster he was just another petty tyrant with blood on his hands.

Instead of using a single bullet to take him out Bush&Co wasted thousands of lives, American British, Iraqi and others just to fulfill an ego trip because Daddy Bush didn´t have the balls to finish the job fist time around.

The real irony? Sadam is still alive, getting 3 meals a day at Uncle Sam´s expense while his muderous henchmen roam free.

What a bunch of fuckwits!
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USA worst than Saddam and you people endorsed your government in to power. It is your army, your sons and daughters who dropped these chemicals on Iraqies. You are all part of this. When are you going to change?
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Irony of the Century: Saddam is a threat to US peace, so we´ll create a seemingly never-ending war.
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The Face of War

This album contains photos taken by the military of dead men in Fallujah. They were taken on November 19th, 2004, to identify the dead. The IRC estimates that at least 60% of those killed in the assault of Fallujah are women, children and elderly. Warning:These are extremely graphic images posted simply to show the true face of war. Weblog
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This is exteeemly disturbing to me.

Those savages killed my cousin, then hung his dead burnt body from a bridge.

It is disturbing that there are no savage bodies left to defile!

The only comfort I find is that most of those fuckers are dead!
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there will come a time when the tables will be turned. Perhaps it will be the Chinese, the Russians or some other force who will do the same to America. Will we remember then what we did. Will we expect the world for sympathy? will anyone offer us help?
It is time for us to acknowledge what we are doing and then to stand up and say NO MORE.
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Think about it
We are in their country killing then, torturing them. We have taken their lives away from them. We are abusing them and we are taking their wealth away from them. We are doing all this because we can and because we want to rob them of what they have... OIL. And we make the excuse that we are giving them freedom.
Are you really that blind? Or do you close your eyes to all this because you approve of all this?
Don´t you think that one day your children will pay the price?
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Revision Thing
A history of the Iraq war, told entirely in lies
Posted on Monday, November 7, 2005. All text is verbatim from senior Bush Administration officials and advisers. In places, tenses have been changed for clarity. Originally from Harper´s Magazine, October 2003. By Sam Smith.
Sources

Once again, we were defending both ourselves and the safety and survival of civilization itself. September 11 signaled the arrival of an entirely different era. We faced perils we had never thought about, perils we had never seen before. For decades, terrorists had waged war against this country. Now, under the leadership of President Bush, America would wage war against them. It was a struggle between good and it was a struggle between evil.

It was absolutely clear that the number-one threat facing America was from Saddam Hussein. We know that Iraq and Al Qaeda had high-level contacts that went back a decade. We learned that Iraq had trained Al Qaeda members in bomb making and deadly gases. The regime had long-standing and continuing ties to terrorist organizations. Iraq and Al Qaeda had discussed safe-haven opportunities in Iraq. Iraqi officials denied accusations of ties with Al Qaeda. These denials simply were not credible. You couldn´t distinguish between Al Qaeda and Saddam when you talked about the war on terror.

The fundamental question was, did Saddam Hussein have a weapons program? And the answer was, absolutely. His regime had large, unaccounted-for stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons--including VX, sarin, cyclosarin, and mustard gas, anthrax, botulism, and possibly smallpox. Our conservative estimate was that Iraq then had a stockpile of between 100 and 500 tons of chemical-weapons agent. That was enough agent to fill 16,000 battlefield rockets. We had sources that told us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons--the very weapons the dictator told the world he did not have. And according to the British government, the Iraqi regime could launch a biological or chemical attack in as little as forty-five minutes after the orders were given. There could be no doubt that Saddam Hussein had biological weapons and the capability to rapidly produce more, many more.

Iraq possessed ballistic missiles with a likely range of hundreds of miles--far enough to strike Saudi Arabia, Israel, Turkey, and other nations. We also discovered through intelligence that Iraq had a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We were concerned that Iraq was exploring ways of using UAVs for missions targeting the United States.

* * *

Saddam Hussein was determined to get his hands on a nuclear bomb. We knew he´d been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons, and we believed he had, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons. The British government learned that Saddam Hussein had recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa. Our intelligence sources told us that he had attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear-weapons production. When the inspectors first went into Iraq and were denied-finally denied access, a report came out of the [International Atomic Energy Agency] that they were six months away from developing a weapon. I didn´t know what more evidence we needed.

Facing clear evidence of peril, we could not wait for the final proof that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud. The Iraqi dictator could not be permitted to threaten America and the world with horrible poisons and diseases and gases and atomic weapons. Inspections would not work. We gave him a chance to allow the inspectors in, and he wouldn´t let them in. The burden was on those people who thought he didn´t have weapons of mass destruction to tell the world where they were.

We waged a war to save civilization itself. We did not seek it, but we fought it, and we prevailed. We fought them and imposed our will on them and we captured or, if necessary, killed them until we had imposed law and order. The Iraqi people were well on their way to freedom. The scenes of free Iraqis celebrating in the streets, riding American tanks, tearing down the statues of Saddam Hussein in the center of Baghdad were breathtaking. Watching them, one could not help but think of the fall of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of the Iron Curtain.

It was entirely possible that in Iraq you had the most pro-American population that could be found anywhere in the Arab world. If you were looking for a historical analogy, it was probably closer to post-liberation France. We had the overwhelming support of the Iraqi people. Once we won, we got great support from everywhere.

The people of Iraq knew that every effort was made to spare innocent life, and to help Iraq recover from three decades of totalitarian rule. And plans were in place to provide Iraqis with massive amounts of food, as well as medicine and other essential supplies. The U.S. devoted unprecedented attention to humanitarian relief and the prevention of excessive damage to infrastructure and to unnecessary casualties.

The United States approached its postwar work with a two-part resolve: a commitment to stay and a commitment to leave. The United States had no intention of determining the precise form of Iraq´s new government. That choice belonged to the Iraqi people. We have never been a colonial power. We do not leave behind occupying armies. We leave behind constitutions and parliaments. We don´t take our force and go around the world and try to take other people´s real estate or other people´s resources, their oil. We never have and we never will.

The United States was not interested in the oil in that region. We were intent on ensuring that Iraq´s oil resources remained under national Iraqi control, with the proceeds made available to support Iraqis in all parts of the country. The oil fields belonged to the people of Iraq, the government of Iraq, all of Iraq. We estimated that the potential income to the Iraqi people as a result of their oil could be somewhere in the $20 [billion] to $30 billion a year [range], and obviously, that would be money that would be used for their well-being. In other words, all of Iraq´s oil belonged to all the people of Iraq.

* * *

We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories. And we found more weapons as time went on. I never believed that we´d just tumble over weapons of mass destruction in that country. But for those who said we hadn´t found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they were wrong, we found them. We knew where they were.

We changed the regime of Iraq for the good of the Iraqi people. We didn´t want to occupy Iraq. War is a terrible thing. We´ve tried every other means to achieve objectives without a war because we understood what the price of a war can be and what it is. We sought peace. We strove for peace. Nobody, but nobody, was more reluctant to go to war than President Bush.

It is not right to assume that any current problems in Iraq can be attributed to poor planning. The number of U.S. forces in the Persian Gulf region dropped as a result of Operation Iraqi Freedom. This nation acted to a threat from the dictator of Iraq. There is a lot of revisionist history now going on, but one thing is certain--he is no longer a threat to the free world, and the people of Iraq are free. There´s no doubt in my mind when it´s all said and done, the facts will show the world the truth. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind.
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Sounds like somethig that Bush would say to justify himself. LOL
I wonder what % of people do you expect to accept this?
Even the most radical Neo-Con would be embaressed by what you have posted.
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Revision Thing
A history of the Iraq war, told entirely in lies
Posted on Monday, November 7, 2005. All text is verbatim from senior Bush Administration officials and advisers. In places, tenses have been changed for clarity. Originally from Harper´s Magazine, October 2003. By Sam Smith.
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what A BUNCH OF BULLSHITbsflag


WE removed a bunch of assholes who were feeding entire families into wood chippers .
Not to mention we need a base over there, foe when we eventually have to take out syria and Iran, which we are going to have to do, sooner or later.
Iran is using german tech to build missles that will reach US, and the nukes that will sit on top of those weapons.
When our cities start disapearing it wont be from phosperous, and I dont give a rats ass if they used it or not, but I know they didnt, its against general orders.
ALL of these war protesters remind me of the troublemakers in the sixties and seventies, and remember martin sheen and his antinuke efforts?
After the ussr collapsed KGB files showed that they had extensive involvement in the AMERICAN "PEACE" MOVEMENT
And these are muslims making these claims, because at the end of the day its all they can do, we are heading their way and NOTHING is going to stop us.
Its called survival, and we have a right to defend ourselves Against a bunch of fucktards who have sworn to kill usmilitia
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[link to www.informationclearinghouse.info] for the video bushfing
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Ahh, Bundy, it`s people like you with such short memories who get us into this mess in the first place.

[link to italy.indymedia.org]
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Britain´s THE INDEPENDENT is covering this today prominently.
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"Those savages killed my cousin, then hung his dead burnt body from a bridge."


Was your cousin mentally retarded?

Was he a juvenile?

Was he cohersed into joining the military?

If so, you have my sympathies...

... Otherwise, he give his life for those in pursuit of power over you and your children´s, children´s children - He was fighting the WRONG enemy.

What a waste!
sigh
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THis is the worst thing I can think of.

Didnt the US go to war to stop Iraq from using chemical weapons, so what do they do they use them instead.

fucking twisted.
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Iraq certainly was a threat to world peace. Saddam was and is a piece of shit that was poking his fingers into every bit of dirty business he could get them near, including who knows how much money and payoffs and colusional bullshit involving the thieving scumbags at the UN.

Iraq was a soft money finance outlet for who knows how many terrorist actions and I doubt that anybody will ever know how much other nasty shit Saddam attemted to finance. Iraq did have all kinds of nice compounds such as weaponized anthrax, botulinum toxin, and all kinds of ready mix precurser chemicals and if you think Saddam just destroyed them all because the faggots, who couldn´t find thier asses with a map, at the UN told him to, you really ought to check out this bridge I have for sale.

Iraq was attacked for two reasons, one because everybody on earth knew Saddam was up to no good and consistantly used his country to undermine any sane course in the middle east and was weakened suffiantly in the first gulf war to be soft enough to take down with a minimum loss to the American military.

And two because it was necessary to show the Arab world that the west was not going to wait to only counter attack in reprisal as we did with Afghanistan. That it was not going to take a smoking gun, but that if you were waving a gun, we would assume you were going to shoot it and we would shoot first.

Face it, America did what was needed to be done and the rest of the planet that hates us for it was either involved with the massive corruption that was Iraqs primary business or hates us anyway for what and who we are and will always hate us, so fuck off.

As far as warfare goes, it would be really nice if we could send a division of girl scouts overseas to pillow fight the enemy into submission, but unfortunatly research shows that doesn´t work so swell.

"The use of the incendiary substance on civilians is forbidden " Well duh, the use of any deadly force on civilians is never the aim, however unfortunatly civilians always get dead, it´s a horrible fact of war.

Anybody who thinks the American military just goes into a target area with the intent to kill non-combatants has consumed too much Koolaid, it´s never the intent and for the most part we go far out of our way to avoid it. War is an ugly business and the anti-war crowd will always use the horror of it as a tool.

The dead and mamed are always exploited to this end. Film of horribly injured and dead human beings are in no short supply during any military action. What did you think? that the Marines yell a lot at the bad guys? and go bang, bang your dead, now your out, go stand over there?

The US military did use Mark-77 firebombs, which are not banned, in Iraq, on the march to Bahgdad in 2003, not in Fallujah, notice the wording in this article and how it leads you to believe it was in fallujah. WP was used in Fallujah, but it was limited and also not banned, it´s a part of war, and it wasn´t used to wholesale roast civilians as the article would like you to believe. It´s called the horrors of war and not a spitball fight for a reason.

Ask yourself this, with all the terrible weapons that are completly acceptible within the conventions of warfare that are at the disposal of the US mititary, why would anybody cross the line and use a bunch of banned weapons? Also how would a military commander get access to them? Do you really think a commander could just call up some banned weapon and just get it? Without question? Don´t be an idiot.

This is just more anti-American retorict on film, no short supply of that either. Face it, we are not breaking any laws of war. War is horrible enough all by itself and doen´t need any artificial enhancements. These people who exploit the horror of it for thier own agendas to undermine whichever country they decide they don´t want to support are nothing more than vultures feeding on the dead.
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The US troops will not come home until the collective consciousness of America shift´s from its blood lust.

kinda like a rabid bulldog in that respect.
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SHR

Nobody believes your lies and bullshit. The time will come when the criminals in the U.S. and Britain are held to account for the crimes against humanity they´ve commited, and you´ll be stood there, naked in the rain, exposed as the lying neo con shill you are.
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as ye sow, ye shall reap...mission accomplished allright. 9-11 was a fart in the wind compared to what we´ve done to Iraq. And to think, it was designed and perpetrated by the same traitors that brought you the Iraq invasion... ahh the irony of it all...
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What a load of bull. Redefining a ´chemical weapon´ to include white phosphorus and napalm. By that definition a ´chemical weapon´ can also be gunpowder and high explosive. I am always amazed at the lengths some will go to in order to try to give the US military a black eye.

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