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That image was just to make a statement, not provide entertainment.

I'm simply asking you a question- who is this Christian cult you are referring to?
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


the image let us talk about the image!what does it represent because when you answer me then you will answer your question!
 Quoting: neim777


The image represents Christians being attacked. The second image is the armour of God, to fight off the attacks of the enemy.
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Who is being depicted in the top picture ? what does it or who does it represent? you did well to interpret the other picture!TELL ME!
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Let me tell you all somethiing no matter what you try to derail the word it always comes out for good, it never comes back void.You can change IDs give bad karma call be dog ,native whatever.I am honored because I gave the word and you can find it all in your bibles. I strive to be called Great IN THE KINGDOM. I am not no country mouse dreamer false teacher. I do not come here telling you about dreams and my visions of my own imagination. I show you the word, not from sensationalism and other mens opinion but from the eyewitnesses account.JOHN MATT LUKE MARK
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This why I say you all are hypocrites.You go on a site where your God is scorned on every post that person puts out and offer love and pacify..

I uphold the God of the bible and protect the word from her desicration. I speak out against a hypocritcal religious system but you come here with your spitball and rubber band sarcasm and knuckle dragon fasle intention .
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I have love for others, even the unsaved.It's my hope that I can one day show Sandi the love of God/Christ through me, and perhaps lead her to the cross of Jesus. God doesn't want any to perish, but all to come to the knowledge of the truth. And frankly, I don't either!

You can call me names all you want, but I do care about people, yes, including Sandi.
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


I never said no and we should all have but where do you draw the line with the sides you take. Where do you stand up for truth. which side are you on the one who scorns your god or the side that uplifts your God.

I am not atlking friendship here I am talking about THE WAY

I love sandi too...I love you guys too but the truth is the
truth and it will separate.

I did not call you a name i am addressing the falshood and pretense you came under
 Quoting: neim777



Sandi, and I, have had numerous conversations, and she knows exactly where I stand. There is always a chance to lead someone to the Lord if you do so out of love.

I am on the side of the Lord, but until that final trumpet sounds, I'd like to see as many souls as possible enter into the Kingdom of God.
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still jumping around and you will never give direct answers! The day is coming and I say it to you and myself that every thing we do will be tried in the fire.Mischief and folly will be first.Don.t ever think our actions are not recorded daily.I remind myself with the psalm that says God is angry with the wicked everyday... Let there be no wicked intention be found in us..peace
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Though Israel was scattered they are not done away with,they are the apple of the creators eyes and he promised to restore Israel in the future. Israel being disobedient were sent to many different nations as bond men and bond women serving different Gods of stone and wood. A people with a new tongue murdered butchered , no identity and mixed amongst babylon nations.

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The Church; the believer
is The Apple of God's Eye.


The Fig tree

Some places in the Bible indicate that the fig tree also
has a symbolic meaning. One of the Lord’s miracles is most
intriguing when his curse of the fig tree caused it to
wither.
This seems to have been the only miracle in which
Jesus used his power to destroy, to annihilate something.
It also is the only miracle which was of no benefit to
anyone. All others were done for men.The Lord multiplied
bread, healed diseases, raised the dead. This miracle was
as if in conflict with our Master’s disposition, who to the
suggestion of destroying the wicked, answered back to his
disciples: "Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of".
(Luke 9:55).

All these facts imply an exceptional character of that
miracle and its symbolic meaning. But to understand this
symbolism, the miracle must be considered in the light of
our Lord’s parable of the barren fig tree.

(Luke 13:6-9)
"A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard;
and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.
Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard,
Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit
on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down;
why cumbereth it the ground?

And he answering said unto him:
let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it and
dung it. And if it shall bear fruit, well and if not then
after that thou shalt cut it down."

(The parable is unfinished)

The parable was preceded by his words:
"Except ye repent ye shall likewise perish".

The explanation of this parable was obvious to the
listeners. The owner of the vineyard is the God of Israel
(Isa 5:7). The dresser is the Messiah, who, three years
into his mission, would, through his digging and
fertilizing, make the nation bring fruit unto God.

At the time of the utterance of this parable, the fate of
this nation was still not decided.
Our Lord still had half
a year of his dressing work before him. It seems that the
cursing of the fig tree is as if it is
the finishing of the
unfinished parable.


After his triumphant entry into Jerusalem, the end of our
Lord’s mission was fast approaching. Returning from
Bethany, the Master approached the fig tree and looked for
fruit in it. Having found none,
He passed this sentence on the tree
"Let no fruit grow on thee henceforth for ever"
(Matt. 21:19)

How soon was Christ’s prophecy fulfilled about the
withering of the symbolic fig tree to be fulfilled?
In the year 70 A.D. the temple was destroyed.
No longer was there a place to offer sacrifices,
the opportunity to serve the Lord according to the precepts
of the Law thus ended.
Jerusalem fell into ruin, and the
whole nation was expelled from their own land and dispersed
throughout the world.

The fig tree was used as a picture of Israel not without a
cause. As early as in the Old Testament, figs were
identified with the nation of Israel by the prophets.
(Hosea 9 and Jeremiah 24)


Matthew 21:18-19 (King James Version)

18 Now in the morning as he (Jesus) returned into the city,
he hungered.

19 And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it,
and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto
it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever.
And presently the fig tree withered away.


John 5:22 (King James Version)

22 For the Father judgeth no man,
but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:


Jesus speaking to a multitude

Luke 23:28-30 (King James Version)

28 But Jesus turning unto them said, Daughters of
Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves,
and for your children.


29 For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they
shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never
bare, and the paps which never gave suck.

30 Then shall they begin to say to the mountains,
Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us.

Rev 6:16; sixth Seal Hosea 10:8

God Bless His Word


Has God fulfilled all of His promises
to the nation of Israel?

A recap


Joshua 11:23 (King James Version)


23 So Joshua took the whole land, according to all that the
LORD said unto Moses;
and Joshua gave it for an inheritance
unto Israel according to their divisions by their tribes.
And the land rested from war.


Nehemiah 9:22-23 (King James Version)

22 Moreover thou gavest them kingdoms and nations,
and didst divide them into corners:
so they possessed the land of Sihon, and the land of the
king of Heshbon, and the land of Og king of Bashan.

23 Their children also multipliedst thou as the stars
of heaven, and broughtest them into
the land,

Joshua 21:43-45 (King James Version)

43 And the LORD gave unto Israel all the land which he
sware to give unto their fathers; and they possessed it,
and dwelt therein.

44 And the LORD gave them rest round about, according to
all that he sware unto their fathers: and there stood not a
man of all their enemies before them; the LORD delivered
all their enemies into their hand.

45 There failed not ought of any good thing which the LORD
had spoken unto the house of Israel;
all came to pass.

God Bless His Word

The diaspora is commonly accepted to have begun with
the 8th–6th century BC conquests of the ancient kingdoms of
Israel and Judah, the destruction of the First Temple
(586 B.C.), and expulsion of the population, and is also
associated with the destruction of the Second Temple
(70 A.D.) and aftermath of the Bar Kokhba revolt during the
Roman occupation of Judea in the 1st and 2nd centuries A.D.

"Let no fruit grow on thee henceforth for ever"

- The Lord Jesus
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the image let us talk about the image!what does it represent because when you answer me then you will answer your question!
 Quoting: neim777


The image represents Christians being attacked. The second image is the armour of God, to fight off the attacks of the enemy.
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Who is being depicted in the top picture ? what does it or who does it represent? you did well to interpret the other picture!TELL ME!
:waronus:



Let me tell you all somethiing no matter what you try to derail the word it always comes out for good, it never comes back void.You can change IDs give bad karma call be dog ,native whatever.I am honored because I gave the word and you can find it all in your bibles. I strive to be called Great IN THE KINGDOM. I am not no country mouse dreamer false teacher. I do not come here telling you about dreams and my visions of my own imagination. I show you the word, not from sensationalism and other mens opinion but from the eyewitnesses account.JOHN MATT LUKE MARK
 Quoting: neim777


Jesus
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


so there you go you answered the previous question you asked.That is a false image we are warned of false images and also isaiah described the messiah to the bone.So you dtermeine for yourself if I am leading youor the bible is leading you wrong
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Though Israel was scattered they are not done away with,they are the apple of the creators eyes and he promised to restore Israel in the future. Israel being disobedient were sent to many different nations as bond men and bond women serving different Gods of stone and wood. A people with a new tongue murdered butchered , no identity and mixed amongst babylon nations.

 Quoting: neim777


The Church; the believer
is The Apple of God's Eye.


The Fig tree

Some places in the Bible indicate that the fig tree also
has a symbolic meaning. One of the Lord’s miracles is most
intriguing when his curse of the fig tree caused it to
wither.
This seems to have been the only miracle in which
Jesus used his power to destroy, to annihilate something.
It also is the only miracle which was of no benefit to
anyone. All others were done for men.The Lord multiplied
bread, healed diseases, raised the dead. This miracle was
as if in conflict with our Master’s disposition, who to the
suggestion of destroying the wicked, answered back to his
disciples: "Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of".
(Luke 9:55).

All these facts imply an exceptional character of that
miracle and its symbolic meaning. But to understand this
symbolism, the miracle must be considered in the light of
our Lord’s parable of the barren fig tree.

(Luke 13:6-9)
"A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard;
and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.
Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard,
Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit
on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down;
why cumbereth it the ground?

And he answering said unto him:
let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it and
dung it. And if it shall bear fruit, well and if not then
after that thou shalt cut it down."

(The parable is unfinished)

The parable was preceded by his words:
"Except ye repent ye shall likewise perish".

The explanation of this parable was obvious to the
listeners. The owner of the vineyard is the God of Israel
(Isa 5:7). The dresser is the Messiah, who, three years
into his mission, would, through his digging and
fertilizing, make the nation bring fruit unto God.

At the time of the utterance of this parable, the fate of
this nation was still not decided.
Our Lord still had half
a year of his dressing work before him. It seems that the
cursing of the fig tree is as if it is
the finishing of the
unfinished parable.


After his triumphant entry into Jerusalem, the end of our
Lord’s mission was fast approaching. Returning from
Bethany, the Master approached the fig tree and looked for
fruit in it. Having found none,
He passed this sentence on the tree
"Let no fruit grow on thee henceforth for ever"
(Matt. 21:19)

How soon was Christ’s prophecy fulfilled about the
withering of the symbolic fig tree to be fulfilled?
In the year 70 A.D. the temple was destroyed.
No longer was there a place to offer sacrifices,
the opportunity to serve the Lord according to the precepts
of the Law thus ended.
Jerusalem fell into ruin, and the
whole nation was expelled from their own land and dispersed
throughout the world.

The fig tree was used as a picture of Israel not without a
cause. As early as in the Old Testament, figs were
identified with the nation of Israel by the prophets.
(Hosea 9 and Jeremiah 24)


Matthew 21:18-19 (King James Version)

18 Now in the morning as he (Jesus) returned into the city,
he hungered.

19 And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it,
and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto
it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever.
And presently the fig tree withered away.


John 5:22 (King James Version)

22 For the Father judgeth no man,
but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:


Jesus speaking to a multitude

Luke 23:28-30 (King James Version)

28 But Jesus turning unto them said, Daughters of
Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves,
and for your children.


29 For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they
shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never
bare, and the paps which never gave suck.

30 Then shall they begin to say to the mountains,
Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us.

Rev 6:16; sixth Seal Hosea 10:8

God Bless His Word


Has God fulfilled all of His promises
to the nation of Israel?

A recap


Joshua 11:23 (King James Version)


23 So Joshua took the whole land, according to all that the
LORD said unto Moses;
and Joshua gave it for an inheritance
unto Israel according to their divisions by their tribes.
And the land rested from war.


Nehemiah 9:22-23 (King James Version)

22 Moreover thou gavest them kingdoms and nations,
and didst divide them into corners:
so they possessed the land of Sihon, and the land of the
king of Heshbon, and the land of Og king of Bashan.

23 Their children also multipliedst thou as the stars
of heaven, and broughtest them into
the land,

Joshua 21:43-45 (King James Version)

43 And the LORD gave unto Israel all the land which he
sware to give unto their fathers; and they possessed it,
and dwelt therein.

44 And the LORD gave them rest round about, according to
all that he sware unto their fathers: and there stood not a
man of all their enemies before them; the LORD delivered
all their enemies into their hand.

45 There failed not ought of any good thing which the LORD
had spoken unto the house of Israel;
all came to pass.

God Bless His Word

The diaspora is commonly accepted to have begun with
the 8th–6th century BC conquests of the ancient kingdoms of
Israel and Judah, the destruction of the First Temple
(586 B.C.), and expulsion of the population, and is also
associated with the destruction of the Second Temple
(70 A.D.) and aftermath of the Bar Kokhba revolt during the
Roman occupation of Judea in the 1st and 2nd centuries A.D.

"Let no fruit grow on thee henceforth for ever"

- The Lord Jesus
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11621421


the word ]church]means a building of pagan worship and was substituted in the bible for the HOLY ASSEMBLY OF ISRAEL..
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Jeremiah 23 Living Bible

21 I have not sent these prophets
yet they claim to speak for me.

I gave them no message, yet they say their words are mine.

22 If they were mine
they would try to turn my people from their evil ways.

23 Am I God who is only in one place and can not see what they are doing?

24 Can anyone hide from me?
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Jeremiah 23 Living Bible

21 I have not sent these prophets
yet they claim to speak for me.

I gave them no message, yet they say their words are mine.

22 If they were mine
they would try to turn my people from their evil ways.

23 Am I God who is only in one place and can not see what they are doing?

24 Can anyone hide from me?
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22 If they were mine
they would try to turn my people from their evil ways


Change will you and obey?....good message! i hope it was not sarcasm or a little punch.lol

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 03/06/2012 12:21 PM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Though Israel was scattered they are not done away with,they are the apple of the creators eyes and he promised to restore Israel in the future. Israel being disobedient were sent to many different nations as bond men and bond women serving different Gods of stone and wood. A people with a new tongue murdered butchered , no identity and mixed amongst babylon nations.

 Quoting: neim777


New Covenant

Spiritual Israel

– Those who worship in spirit and in truth

John 4:19-24 (King James Version)

The Samaritan woman


19 The woman saith unto him, Sir,
I perceive that thou art a prophet.

20 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say,
that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.

21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me,
the hour cometh,
when ye shall neither in this mountain,
nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.


22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship:
for salvation is of the jewish people.

23 But the hour cometh, and now is,
when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in
spirit and in truth:
for the Father seeketh such to worship him.


24 God is a Spirit:
and they that worship him must worship him in spirit
and
in truth.


Galatians 6:15-18 (King James Version)

15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any
thing, nor uncircumcision,
but a new creature.

16 And as many as walk according to this rule,
peace be on them, and mercy,
and upon “the Israel of God.”

17 From henceforth let no man trouble me:
for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.

18 Brethren, the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with
your spirit. Amen.


Romans 11:26 (King James Version)

26 And so all Israel shall be saved:

Context:

When "the fullness of the Gentiles has come in”
(grafted into the vine), then all Israel will be saved;
Spiritual Israel, “The Israel of God”.

New Covenant

God Bless His Word


The Israel of God

The New Testament writers, being inspired by God,
clearly understood that the church is the Israel of God
and is the object of the promises made to Israel
by God in the Old Testament.



Paul said that believers are:

"The children of God" (Romans 8:16).
"The Household of God" (Ephesians 2:19).
"The children of Abraham" (Colossians 3:7).
"Abraham's seed" (Galatians 3:29).
"The Children of promise" (Rom. 9:8, Galatians 4:28).
"A peculiar people” (Titus 2:14).
"The elect of God" (Colossians 3:12).
"Heirs of God"(Rom. 8:17).
“Heirs according to the promise” (Galatians 3:29).
"The temple of God" (1 Cor 3:16).
"The circumcision" (Philippians 3:3).
"The Israel of God" (Galatians 6:16).


Peter said that believers are:

"A chosen generation" (1 Peter 2:9).
"A royal priesthood" (1 Peter 2:9).
"A holy nation" (1 Peter 2:9).
"A peculiar people" (1 Peter 2:9).


James said that believers are:

"Heirs of the kingdom" (James 2:5).


John said that believers are:

"The sons of God" (John 1:12).
"Kings and priests unto God" (Revelation 1:6).
"The new Jerusalem" (Revelation 3:12).
“The Holy city (Revelation 21:2).


The letter to the Hebrews said that believers are:

"The people of God" (Hebrews 4:9).
“Mount Zion” (Hebrews 12:22).
“The city of the living God” (Hebrews 12:22).
“The heavenly Jerusalem” (Hebrews 12:22).

God Bless His Word
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Jeremiah 23 Living Bible

21 I have not sent these prophets
yet they claim to speak for me.

I gave them no message, yet they say their words are mine.

22 If they were mine
they would try to turn my people from their evil ways.

23 Am I God who is only in one place and can not see what they are doing?

24 Can anyone hide from me?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1545386


22 If they were mine
they would try to turn my people from their evil ways


Change will you and obey?....good message! i hope it was not sarcasm or a little punch.lol
 Quoting: neim777


what is amazing is all these ACs posting today..login in with free account to send out their sarcasm..Be men and bring your point across but you hide behind AC power
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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predestined! Let us talk about this

I will jump right in,first let us understand that on this earth there are two nations warring and two kingdoms warring,satans kingdom and his seed Esau against the kingdom of God his seed Israel/Jacob. The contention between jacob and esau is on going ever since their birth, and our heavenly fahter clearly states Jacob I love and esau he hates.

Though Israel was scattered they are not done away with,they are the apple of the creators eyes and he promised to restore Israel in the future. Israel being disobedient were sent to many different nations as bond men and bond women serving different Gods of stone and wood. A people with a new tongue murdered butchered , no identity and mixed amongst babylon nations.

The gentile nation was grafted in to the salvation plan on this account only if they follow the ways of the most high by agreement to the new covenant messiah. The world today has moved away from the old path and are mostly involved in false religious worships of the gentile churches today a false form of worship.

In this big barrel of confusion "Babylon" you have Gods people Israel believers and unbelievers , gentile believers and unbelievers,edomites esau's seed amalek. Follow with me friends this is interesting!

The edomites are the serpent seed,and are not predestined for salvation that race will be wiped out from the earth .IT HAS BEEN PROVEN AND PROHESIED. ALL OTHER KINGS FAILED TO ELIMINATE AMALEK,SAUL,KING DAVID SO THE THE KING Y'SHAYAH IS COMING FOR THAT PURPOSE HE IS THE ONLY KING WILL REIGN OVER THE SERPENT SEED AND RESTORE ORDER IN THE EARTH..


When messiah came he announced that he came unto the lost tribe of israel...He said my sheep hear my voice
He called the edomite pharasees children of satan.vipers and murderers etc.

THE PICTURE IS BECOMING CLEARER RIGHT?

The fathers children are growing together as weeds and thorns amongst the wheat and there are those who will hear his voice and still reject the truth and those who will wash themselves from the state they are in and come home to him.


The predestined are his people Israel and the Gentiles who he has called to salvation,many are still lost out there,and will not turn back and conform, hence the reason for freewill to which everyone is given. THIS WHOLE GROUP ARE "PREDESTINED TO SALVATION" BUT ONLY FEW WILL ANSWER THE CALL and seek the father honestly!

"TO THE HEBREW FIRST THEN THE GENTILE"

SO THIS SCRIPTURE ABOUT THE PREDESTINED IS YOU WHOM HE HAS CALLED HIS PEOPLE AND YOU WHO WERE GRAFTED IN. THE REST IS UP TO THESE HIS PEOPLE AND THOSE GRAFTED IN TO WORK OUT THEIR SALVATION BECAUSE YOU DONT IT IS ALL LOST.

THIS IS THE POWER OF FREEWILL THAT YOUR LIBERTY IS NO EXCUSE TO LIVE LAWLESSLY AND LOSE WHAT YOU WERE PREDESTINED FOR.

THE SCRIPTURE SAYS I KNOW THOSE WHO ARE MINE


John 6:44-45 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day. 45It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.

That's not all Jesus has to say. He even states that THE BIBLE IS INTENTIONALLY DECEPTIVE lest the ones NOT CHOSEN should actually understand it and believe!

Matthew 13:10-15 And the disciples came and said to Him, “Why do You speak to them in parables?” 11 He answered and said to them, “Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. 12 For whoever has, to him more will be given, and he will have abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 13 Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. 14 And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says:

‘ Hearing you will hear and shall not understand,
And seeing you will see and not perceive;
15 For the hearts of this people have grown dull.
Their ears are hard of hearing,
And their eyes they have closed,
Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears,
Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn,
So that I should heal them.’

 Quoting: neim777

Satans seed is not Esau, satans seed are the Kenites that are from Cain.
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correctamundo

cain took a wife from the cold land of the far north where he'd been cast out to, the land of Nod, Russia
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Let me tell you all somethiing no matter what you try to derail the word it always comes out for good, it never comes back void.You can change IDs give bad karma call be dog ,native whatever.I am honored because I gave the word and you can find it all in your bibles. I strive to be called Great IN THE KINGDOM. I am not no country mouse dreamer false teacher. I do not come here telling you about dreams and my visions of my own imagination. I show you thw word
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Amen!
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Jeremiah 23 Living Bible

21 I have not sent these prophets
yet they claim to speak for me.

I gave them no message, yet they say their words are mine.

22 If they were mine
they would try to turn my people from their evil ways.

23 Am I God who is only in one place and can not see what they are doing?

24 Can anyone hide from me?
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22 If they were mine
they would try to turn my people from their evil ways


Change will you and obey?....good message! i hope it was not sarcasm or a little punch.lol
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Some are on the narrow way few find.

hf


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keep following yhvh and his angels to the abyss. Your hebrew messiah is yet to come, Christ wasn't sent from yhvh.
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Let me tell you all somethiing no matter what you try to derail the word it always comes out for good, it never comes back void.You can change IDs give bad karma call be dog ,native whatever.I am honored because I gave the word and you can find it all in your bibles. I strive to be called Great IN THE KINGDOM. I am not no country mouse dreamer false teacher. I do not come here telling you about dreams and my visions of my own imagination. I show you thw word
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Amen!
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The bible tells us woe to you who call good evil and evil good!

They shake hands with scorners and they cast out the truth and accuse the brethren

1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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keep following yhvh and his angels to the abyss. Your hebrew messiah is yet to come, Christ wasn't sent from yhvh.
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Thats another topic but they are not ready to recieve it,They dont even understand the gospels for they will not hear because they are not his!

Matthew 13:10-15 And the disciples came and said to Him, “Why do You speak to them in parables?” 11 He answered and said to them, “Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. 12 For whoever has, to him more will be given, and he will have abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 13 Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. 14 And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says:

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Jeremiah 23 Living Bible

21 I have not sent these prophets
yet they claim to speak for me.

I gave them no message, yet they say their words are mine.

22 If they were mine
they would try to turn my people from their evil ways.

23 Am I God who is only in one place and can not see what they are doing?

24 Can anyone hide from me?
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22 If they were mine
they would try to turn my people from their evil ways


Change will you and obey?....good message! i hope it was not sarcasm or a little punch.lol
 Quoting: neim777


Some are on the narrow way few find.

hf


a friend of TRUTH and Niem too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1545386


Thank you friend and stay on the path let no man deter you
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Jesus
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Neim is listed as an enemy in your profile.

Who are you at war against?


When you fight and reject scripture, who do you think you are fighting?
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The diaspora is commonly accepted to have begun with
the 8th–6th century BC conquests of the ancient kingdoms of
Israel and Judah, the destruction of the First Temple
(586 B.C.), and expulsion of the population, and is also
associated with the destruction of the Second Temple
(70 A.D.) and aftermath of the Bar Kokhba revolt during the
Roman occupation of Judea in the 1st and 2nd centuries A.D.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11621421


THE FALL OF SOLOMON


Solomon’s Intermarriages

1 Kings 11:1-3


1 Now King Solomon loved many foreign women. Besides
Pharaoh's daughter, he married women from Moab, Ammon,
Edom, Sidon, and from among the Hittites.

2 The Lord had clearly instructed
the people of Israel,
"You must not marry them,
because they will turn your hearts to their gods."
Yet Solomon insisted on loving them anyway.


3 He had 700 wives of royal birth and 300 concubines.
And in fact,
they did turn his heart away from the Lord.


Solomon Worships Idols

1 Kings 11:4-8


4 In Solomon's old age, they turned his heart to worship
other gods instead of being completely faithful to the Lord
his God, as his father, David, had been.

5 Solomon worshiped Ashtoreth,
the goddess of the Sidonians,
and Molech, the detestable god of the Ammonites.


6 In this way, Solomon did what was evil
in the Lord's sight;
he refused to follow the Lord completely,
as his father, David, had done.

7 On the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem,
he even built a pagan shrine for Chemosh,
the detestable god of Moab,
and another for Molech,
the detestable god of the Ammonites.


8 Solomon built such shrines for all
his foreign wives to use for burning incense
and sacrificing to their gods.



God rebukes Solomon

1 Kings 11:9-13


9 The Lord was very angry with Solomon,
for his heart had turned away from the Lord,
the God of Israel, who had appeared to him twice.

10 He had warned Solomon specifically
about worshiping other gods,

but Solomon did not listen to the Lord's command.

11 So now the Lord said to him,
"Since you have not kept my covenant
and have disobeyed my decrees,
I will surely tear the kingdom away from you
and give it to one of your servants.


12 But for the sake of your father, David,
I will not do this while you are still alive.
I will take the kingdom away from your son.

13 And even so, I will not take away the entire kingdom;
I will let him be king of one tribe,
for the sake of my servant David
and for the sake of Jerusalem,
my chosen city."


(Now; New Jerusalem; see
Galatians 4:22-31 & Hebrews 11:16)


New Covenant

The Chosen are those who worship in Spirit and Truth.

One tribe

Revelation 5:1-5 (King James Version)

1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne
a book written within and on the backside,
sealed with seven seals.

2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice,
Who is worthy to open the book,
and to loose the seals thereof?


3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the
earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.

4 And I wept much,
because no man was found worthy to open and to read the
book, neither to look thereon.

5 And one of the elders saith unto me,
Weep not: behold,
the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof.


Praise The Lord Jesus Christ; King of Kings

All The Glory to our Father in Heaven!!


God Bless His Word
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Someone just left you nasty Karma and signed my name to it. I just wanted you to know Neim, that it wasn't me. There are plenty of liars around here.
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I know who it is ..I have a program that sees through walls.I know it is not you! still love you though but we will disagree
 Quoting: neim777


It's ok brother, I hope that someday we can be on the same page.

hf
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Lord, open our eyes, so we can see, open our ears so we can hear, and lead in the way everlasting.

Guide us through the wilderness so we can find the promised land. Help us to be in step with you.

hf
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Though Israel was scattered they are not done away with,they are the apple of the creators eyes and he promised to restore Israel in the future. Israel being disobedient were sent to many different nations as bond men and bond women serving different Gods of stone and wood. A people with a new tongue murdered butchered , no identity and mixed amongst babylon nations.

 Quoting: neim777


New Covenant

John 3:16 (King James Version)

16 For God so loved the world,
that he gave his only begotten Son,
that whosoeverbelieveth in him
should not perish,
but have everlasting life.


God Bless His Word
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Jesus
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Neim is listed as an enemy in your profile.

Who are you at war against?


When you fight and reject scripture, who do you think you are fighting?
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they all took counsel to sign in as AC to derail truth and even used Lisa's name to give bad karma..I know the list of them
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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"they all took counsel to sign in as AC"

I knew that in my spirit, about one of them.
Thanks for the conformation.

hf
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"they all took counsel to sign in as AC"

I knew that in my spirit, about one of them.
Thanks for the conformation.

hf
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yep I presented a truth about free will and speaking against the creator posted by an athiest.You will think they will stand for the truth instead they gave a hug and a kiss and then tried to chastise me using over 12 AC accounts..Troubled waters and one I call Kenya and few others I will name soon
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
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Yep. TW called me a liar, a deciever and a troll for posting scripture he don't like. LOL.



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Once upon a time the Lord told me to speak his word and I did and they threw rocks at me and I cried and he told me to go read the book of Jeremiah again...

so I did.

They say they love the word, but they don't.
They say they follow the word but they don't.

The leaders are the worst of them.

Some, not all are treasures.
A few rare jems among the rocks.

He said there would be a remenant.

He said most find the broad-wide road.


AT GLP we know TPTB are ____
but we think the church is safe and pure and holy?
and to be trusted?



Strange.
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Yep. TW called me a liar, a deciever and a troll for posting scripture he don't like. LOL.



***


Once upon a time the Lord told me to speak his word and I did and they threw rocks at me and I cried and he told me to go read the book of Jeremiah again...

so I did.

They say they love the word, but they don't.
They say they follow the word but they don't.

The leaders are the worst of them.

Some, not all are treasures.
A few rare jems among the rocks.

He said there would be a remenant.

He said most find the broad-wide road.


AT GLP we know TPTB are ____
but we think the church is safe and pure and holy?
and to be trusted?



Strange.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1545386


All this happened for a reason and I really hope people who are following this thread will see what and whom they are siding with.


We are not about getting followeres of ourselves but we are about enlightening people and encouraging to read the word and let every man decide in his heart..
We cannot save anybody but our duty is the teach each other the gospel and the resurrection to salvation.

We dont fool you with dreams and false visions but we teach messiah.These false people of baal will mess you up..

Study to show your self approved READ AND MEDITATE ON THE BOOK OF JOHN WITH PRAYER AND FASTING.GIVING GLORY ALWAYS TO THE FATHER!

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Though Israel was scattered they are not done away with,they are the apple of the creators eyes and he promised to restore Israel in the future. Israel being disobedient were sent to many different nations as bond men and bond women serving different Gods of stone and wood. A people with a new tongue murdered butchered , no identity and mixed amongst babylon nations.

 Quoting: neim777


The "Judaizers" seem to be a group of Jewish Christians
in the first century CE who preached to the recently
founded churches of the Gentiles
the need to conform to the Law of Moses,
even after the death and resurrection of
Jesus Christ.

This group originated in Jerusalem; we know little about
them, only that they appear to be Pharisees (Acts 15:5).

We do not know how organized they were or any names of any
individuals within the movement.
They are called the "Judaizers" for lack of a more official
term; they attempted to make jewish people out of Gentile Christians.

The importance of this group comes not from what they teach
but by the reaction given to their teachings.

The letters of Paul to the churches affected show that
Christ has instituted a new covenant, and therefore the
activities performed under the Law of Moses
are made null and void.
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Though Israel was scattered they are not done away with,they are the apple of the creators eyes and he promised to restore Israel in the future. Israel being disobedient were sent to many different nations as bond men and bond women serving different Gods of stone and wood. A people with a new tongue murdered butchered , no identity and mixed amongst babylon nations.

 Quoting: neim777


The "Judaizers" seem to be a group of Jewish Christians
in the first century CE who preached to the recently
founded churches of the Gentiles
the need to conform to the Law of Moses,
even after the death and resurrection of
Jesus Christ.

This group originated in Jerusalem; we know little about
them, only that they appear to be Pharisees (Acts 15:5).

We do not know how organized they were or any names of any
individuals within the movement.
They are called the "Judaizers" for lack of a more official
term; they attempted to make jewish people out of Gentile Christians.

The importance of this group comes not from what they teach
but by the reaction given to their teachings.

The letters of Paul to the churches affected show that
Christ has instituted a new covenant, and therefore the
activities performed under the Law of Moses
are made null and void.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11621421


certain activities, the animal blood sacrifices and stoning to death for sin.. becareful interpreting this...go to matt 5:17



isaiah 24
5 The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.

6 Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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All this happened for a reason and I really hope people who are following this thread will see what and whom they are siding with.

snip


Study to show your self approved READ AND MEDITATE ON THE BOOK OF JOHN WITH PRAYER AND FASTING.GIVING GLORY ALWAYS TO THE FATHER!
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Moses came off the mountain and the people were divided into 2 groups.



My family fought in the American Civel War on both sides.
We were southern.
Some fought with the Yankees.

This taught me to be careful which side you choose.

You can choose family or you can choose truth and righteousness.

Ruth left Moab.

hf
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You christ tards say the funniest things.

Lets back up a little bit and take another look folks.
Lets assume there might be something wrong firstly. second lets assume its the timeline, hell they give you that ckue here daily.


Lets look at pangea, and ther emerald tablets and relate this to the bible.

If we do that we see the well or fountain is now sunken (atlantas) or still a part of china or Malaysia. I assume Malaysia as per first emperors travels and search for fountain.

If we get that then we see the south American red skin man and his tribe are esau. They again carry HIS surname monicer "His companion" and the seal and number of the lost tribe.
Again 0-riginals, again "the fathers seed".

This being "indian" we now see the new strand that wiped out the old and the blond north american "indians" were / are actually of asian decent and genetics.

Again being the reason they piss on gerinomoes skull. Such as the "american" soldiers pissing on dead arabs each with a blue and white (israel) mark on them.


It really is all about kill whitey, shit or get off the pot will ya.





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