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Voter Suppression - Why On Earth Would People NOT Have I.D. Anyway?

 
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Voter Suppression - Why On Earth Would People NOT Have I.D. Anyway?
I don't get it. There is all this talk about how the black and minority vote will be suppressed by requiring people to show valid i.d.
If you are a legal citizen, you have i.d., whatever your skin color. You have to have i.d. to drive, buy alcohol, to open a bank account and/or cash a check, to fly and for a billion other things.
How is it suppressing the black and minority vote to require i.d.? Blacks have i.d. Asians, Hispanics, etc all have i.d. as legal citizens. Why wouldn't they?
Of course illegal aliens do not have valid i.d. and OB probably really wants their votes. But that is a little different from what I am asking. Who are all these people who supposedly don't have valid i.d.?
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i would really like to hear some answers to this, i haven't heard one person (in msm) ask HOW exactly being required to show valid i.d. is "suppressing the vote"
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Because they are:
1) Illegal aliens
2) Felons
3) Dead
4) Insane

In other words, Democrats.
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Because they are:
1) Illegal aliens
2) Felons
3) Dead
4) Insane

In other words, Democrats.
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Re: Voter Suppression - Why On Earth Would People NOT Have I.D. Anyway?
Because they are:
1) Illegal aliens
2) Felons
3) Dead
4) Insane

In other words, Democrats.
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so if anything, requiring valid i.d. would cut down on fraudulent voting you'd think.
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If you drove to the polling place, you have a photo ID. Any 16 year old kid can get a driver's license which is a phtoto ID. You don't have to be rich to get one and almost every adult in the country carries one around with them every day for driving, buying with credit cards, and even paying cash for beer at the local convenience store.

All the class warfare crap about it is nothing more than 100% political bullshit from race and class baiting shills.

When the nation was founded you couldn't vote unless you were a white male land owner. Now, no-one is limited by race, gender, or level of wealth. It is not at all unreasonable to simple ask that you verify that you are a United States citizen.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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If you drove to the polling place, you have a photo ID. Any 16 year old kid can get a driver's license which is a phtoto ID. You don't have to be rich to get one and almost every adult in the country carries one around with them every day for driving, buying with credit cards, and even paying cash for beer at the local convenience store.

All the class warfare crap about it is nothing more than 100% political bullshit from race and class baiting shills.

When the nation was founded you couldn't vote unless you were a white male land owner. Now, no-one is limited by race, gender, or level of wealth. It is not at all unreasonable to simple ask that you verify that you are a United States citizen.
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exactly!
you have to show i.d. to buy beer if you look under 35 - is that "suppressing" the legal beer buyers?
I just don't get the msm language of referring to having to show valid i.d. to vote as "suppression" or being "disenfranchised"
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In the past month I have been asked for a photo ID at a bank (to make a deposit), and at a doctor's office.

I hope it is a push to hinder identity theives.

Oh yea, I showed an ID to vote Tuesday. They also matched my signature to the sample in their book. That's better than the purple ink they use in Iraq.
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Because they are:
1) Illegal aliens
2) Felons
3) Dead
4) Insane

In other words, Democrats.
 Quoting: Walker Stalker 12095987


so if anything, requiring valid i.d. would cut down on fraudulent voting you'd think.
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I think it should be "mandatory" to fork over your I.D to vote...PERIOD!
No if's...and's or butts!
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In the past month I have been asked for a photo ID at a bank (to make a deposit), and at a doctor's office.

I hope it is a push to hinder identity theives.

Oh yea, I showed an ID to vote Tuesday. They also matched my signature to the sample in their book. That's better than the purple ink they use in Iraq.
 Quoting: Real list


I figured it was something they were doing to help prevent voter fraud which actually made sense to me. But I see Al Sharpton and others all fired up about how blacks and minorities are being disenfranchised by having to show valid i.d. I wish someone would say, "How, exactly? What is the reason they don't have i.d.? Are these people also not cashing checks, not flying, not driving...?"
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Because they are:
1) Illegal aliens
2) Felons
3) Dead
4) Insane

In other words, Democrats.
 Quoting: Walker Stalker 12095987


so if anything, requiring valid i.d. would cut down on fraudulent voting you'd think.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11988379


I think it should be "mandatory" to fork over your I.D to vote...PERIOD!
No if's...and's or butts!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4227306


I agree. I was just curious on others' thoughts on why/how it is being spun as suppression
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In the past month I have been asked for a photo ID at a bank (to make a deposit), and at a doctor's office.

I hope it is a push to hinder identity theives.

Oh yea, I showed an ID to vote Tuesday. They also matched my signature to the sample in their book. That's better than the purple ink they use in Iraq.
 Quoting: Real list


I figured it was something they were doing to help prevent voter fraud which actually made sense to me. But I see Al Sharpton and others all fired up about how blacks and minorities are being disenfranchised by having to show valid i.d. I wish someone would say, "How, exactly? What is the reason they don't have i.d.? Are these people also not cashing checks, not flying, not driving...?"
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Sure it is to prevent voter fraud to show ID to vote.

I was speaking in general about all the other times we are asked for ID and the possible reasons.

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"But in many parts of America today people are passing voter ID laws, making it difficult for many people to participate in a democratic process. The Brennan Center based in New York has reported that maybe more than 5 million people would be denied the right to participate in a democratic process. Because of these voter IDs, early voting, making it hard and difficult for young people, minority, seniors and others to vote on Election Day...I feel like we're still marching and it's necessary to march again. It is not right. It's not fair. It's unjust to treat the Latino population or any population the way people are being treated. In the state of Alabama and in so many other states in America, Hispanics, Latinos live in constant fear. These laws are bad. They are bad for our fellow human beings. I don't think there's any such thing as an illegal human being. We all are legal. People must be treated with a sense of dignity. We must respect the dignity and the worth of every human being."

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How is requiring a valid i.d. treating the Hispanic and Latino popuplation any different than anyone else? Caucasians and Asians must also show valid i.d.
And this guy doesn't think there is any such thing as an illegal human being? We are ALL legal citizens of every country? Then I can go vote for Pacquiao when he runs for president of Philippines right?
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In the past month I have been asked for a photo ID at a bank (to make a deposit), and at a doctor's office.

I hope it is a push to hinder identity theives.

Oh yea, I showed an ID to vote Tuesday. They also matched my signature to the sample in their book. That's better than the purple ink they use in Iraq.
 Quoting: Real list


I figured it was something they were doing to help prevent voter fraud which actually made sense to me. But I see Al Sharpton and others all fired up about how blacks and minorities are being disenfranchised by having to show valid i.d. I wish someone would say, "How, exactly? What is the reason they don't have i.d.? Are these people also not cashing checks, not flying, not driving...?"
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Sure it is to prevent voter fraud to show ID to vote.

I was speaking in general about all the other times we are asked for ID and the possible reasons.
 Quoting: Real list


You make a good point. last weekend i had to show my i.d. to a park attendant to buy a day pass for parking in the area.
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Because they are:
1) Illegal aliens
2) Felons
3) Dead
4) Insane

In other words, Democrats.
 Quoting: Walker Stalker 12095987


so if anything, requiring valid i.d. would cut down on fraudulent voting you'd think.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11988379


I think it should be "mandatory" to fork over your I.D to vote...PERIOD!
No if's...and's or butts!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4227306


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Voter fraud at work against having ID. Illegals don't have ID and they love free shit. Who gives out free shit? Democrats.

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They want the illegals to be able to vote without having any proof of them voting is what it boils down to.
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You'd be surprised how many people share I.D.'s - especially with similar looking family members, especially sisters/brothers, and cousins. Even with photos, people age, change their hair style or color - so it's easy to say, that's me in an "old" photo before I changed my hair style/hair color/lost-gained 10 pounds. Last time I was at DMV they took my photo, but mailed my new driver's license with the same old photo that's now close to a decade old. Where a state's Medicaid has emergency room visit limits (to encourage families to take their children to a doctor or clinic), they just falsify who the child is and use a sibling's or cousin's card - blissfully ignorant of the dangers developing in the medical records.
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Because they are:
1) Illegal aliens
2) Felons
3) Dead
4) Insane

In other words, Democrats.
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I don't get it. There is all this talk about how the black and minority vote will be suppressed by requiring people to show valid i.d.
If you are a legal citizen, you have i.d., whatever your skin color. You have to have i.d. to drive, buy alcohol, to open a bank account and/or cash a check, to fly and for a billion other things.
How is it suppressing the black and minority vote to require i.d.? Blacks have i.d. Asians, Hispanics, etc all have i.d. as legal citizens. Why wouldn't they?
Of course illegal aliens do not have valid i.d. and OB probably really wants their votes. But that is a little different from what I am asking. Who are all these people who supposedly don't have valid i.d.?
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You are right, OP - it doesn't make any sense. The only people this ascertainment of minority suppression makes sense to are the minorities that milk the race card for entitlements, sympathy, and affirmative action.

It's hard for them to acquire I.D.s because doing so is taking responsibility for oneself as a citizen. They have been trained that they need not have any responsibility. The gov't will provide all of the Section 8 housing, food stamps, abortions, methadone, and cell phones they want. All they need to do is stay irresponsible to keep the gravy train flowing.

They will never vote for any person who speaks about personal responsibility and the extent to which our Constitution relies upon it. This is why it is so imperative for them to be able to vote without having to spend any money in order to do so. If they are required to buy an I.D. in order to vote, then most of them will opt to buy another 8-ball instead.
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Because they are:
1) Illegal aliens
2) Felons
3) Dead
4) Insane

In other words, Democrats.
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really really simple OP


not having ID makes it far easier to stuff the ballot box, and leaves no trail

time to call it what it is;

theft by the non-productive welfare aristocracy (a curious amalgamation of deadbeats,bankers,left wing politicians,and other various sorts of legitamized criminals) of goods and services created by productive people


THEFT
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Having Government ID means you are a slave to the Government.

Therefore, only slaves can vote for their master.

Not having an ID means you are free to be your own ruler, so long as you do not harm others.

If you knew anything about what an ID is and their history, you would not be so happy to have one, n*gger.
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Because they are:
1) Illegal aliens
2) Felons
3) Dead
4) Insane

In other words, Democrats.
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