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Is this the real reason were in Iraq and Afghanistan

 
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Is this the real reason were in Iraq and Afghanistan
We know how the Sudias feel against Iraq, but can anyone else help connect the dots to this. If you read it fully the timing to pull off 9.11 fits.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Only just come across this but trying to find out more info posted it on here to see if anyone else as got any more info, and can help put some clarity to it
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The Company that was ment to get the deal is now owned by the Chinese too
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wake up, man - not such a sharpshooter on this onewuhfaint
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poppies ???
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Osama Bin Laden pulls out of the Deal in 1998 and then 4 years later hes the most wanted person in the world.

Intresting or not ?
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What is the real reason we were in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Oil, Opium, Heroin, rare earth metals, antiquities (in that order)

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wake up, man - not such a sharpshooter on this onewuhfaint
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Did you eben look into any off it ?
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What is the real reason we were in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Oil, Opium, Heroin, rare earth metals, antiquities (in that order)
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What is the real reason we were in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Oil, Opium, Heroin, rare earth metals, antiquities (in that order)
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Is gas for Europe not just as important than oil.
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Former co worker who has been deployed to Afghanistan many times says they{our government} is looking for something there. They have been for 10 years now and the Soviets were looking for it {whatever it is} too when they were there. Can't imagine what it is but interesting and curious if true.
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yeah - years ago, when it all began in iraq, then 9/11, then the 7/7 shit, then invading afghanistan . . . i always look for the truth behind the fairy stories they tell you . .and you can find it if you bother to look hf
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yeah - years ago, when it all began in iraq, then 9/11, then the 7/7 shit, then invading afghanistan . . . i always look for the truth behind the fairy stories they tell you . .and you can find it if you bother to look hf
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Your from UK too, you noticed how fast are GAS prices have risen. The US run of oil. we run of Gas.

Then Osama bin Laden pulls out of the deal, and then hes the most wanted man in the World only 4 years later, would that not be the avarge ammount of time to pull of an inside job for 9.11. To blame him, take him out. But it dont go quit to plan.

Rember in the UK news British Gas was sold to the Russians

In late 1998, under CEO Sir Roy Gardner and Finance Director Mark Clare, Centrica attempted to diversify – firstly by developing the Goldfish credit card,[3] then in 1999 by acquiring the AA for £1.1 billion.[4] In 2000 Centrica further diversified with the opportunistic purchase of OneTel in the UK, a residential telecoms operator.[5] Soon afterwards Centrica acquired the Dyno franchise group (best known for its Dyno-Rod drains unblocking service).[6] Centrica also moved into the North American energy-supply market through the acquisition of the Canada-based company Direct Energy in 2000 for £406 million.[7] Direct Energy's operations were subsequently considerably expanded through a number of further acquistions, including of Enbridge Services for £437 million in January 2002.[8]

This strategy of diversification changed in mid 2003, possibly under pressure from major city shareholders to deliver better returns and/or possibly anticipating pressure on the core UK energy supply business. The change of strategy started with the sale of the Goldfish business to Lloyds TSB Bank[9] (who subsequently sold it to Morgan Stanley Bank International Limited).[10] Then in 2004 Centrica sold the AA to two private equity firms; Luxembourgish CVC and British Permira for £1.75 billion.[11] Then in 2005 Centrica sold their OneTel business to Carphone Warehouse.[12]

Since 2005 Centrica has declared a strategy of consolidating within the energy sector, upstream and downstream, including expanding operations overseas. New Chairman Roger Carr replaced retiring chairman Sir Michael Perry in 2005, whilst new CEO Sam Laidlaw picked up the reins from retiring CEO Sir Roy Gardner in 2006.[13] Sam Laidlaw brought significant experience of 'upstream' operations, securing supplies of energy which can then be sold on through Centrica's consumer business.

In January 2006, it was rumoured that the Russian state-owned utility company Gazprom was seeking a takeover of Centrica. This created controversy in the media, while the Department for Trade and Industry stated any deal would be subject to "intense scrutiny". Tony Blair announced in April that he would not block any potential deal

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Same companys keep poping up
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What is the real reason we were in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Oil, Opium, Heroin, rare earth metals, antiquities (in that order)
 Quoting: Biochemky


Is gas for Europe not just as important than oil.
 Quoting: Sharpshooter


"From the outset, we have made it clear that construction of the pipeline we have proposed across Afghanistan could not begin until a recognized government is in place that has the confidence of governments, lenders, and our company. "

Mr. John J. Maresca, vice-president of international relations, Unocal Corporation Feb 12, 1998

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1998 Unocal Statement:

Suspension of activities related to proposed natural gas pipeline across Afghanistan

As a result of sharply deteriorating political conditions in the region, Unocal, which serves as the development manager for the Central Asia Gas (CentGas) pipeline consortium, has suspended all activities involving the proposed pipeline project in Afghanistan.

From the 1998 Congressional Record.
Emphasis added to text.

U.S. INTERESTS IN THE CENTRAL ASIAN
REPUBLICS HEARING BEFORE THE
SUBCOMMITTEE ON ASIA AND THE PACIFIC
OF THE COMMITTEE ON INTERNATIONAL
RELATIONS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

ONE HUNDRED FIFTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION
FEBRUARY 12, 1998

[link to commdocs.house.gov]

Is an Oil Pipeline Behind the War in Afghanistan?

On February 12, 1998, John J. Maresca, vice president, international relations for UNOCAL oil company, testified before the US House of Representatives, Committee on International Relations.

Maresca provided information to Congress on Central Asia oil and gas reserves and how they might shape US foreign policy.

UNOCAL’s problem? As Maresca said: “How to get the region’s vast energy resources to the markets.”

The oil reserves are in areas north of Afghanistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan and Russia.

Routes for a pipeline were proposed that would transport oil on a 42-inch pipe southward thru Afghanistan for 1040 miles to the Pakistan coast. Such a pipeline would cost about $2.5 billion and carry about 1 million barrels of oil per day.

Maresca told Congress then that: “It’s not going to be built until there is a single Afghan government. That’s the simple answer.”

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