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BBC news front page article: "Would you want to be a Freemason ?"

 
Richard S.
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His book trilogy is of course already out of print, but can still be found online.
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What's it called
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I am able to use google.
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03/09/2012 06:05 AM
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Masons ruined my country.
We live in poverty because of them.
There’s no meritocracy in this criminal organization.

We have a law:
“if you are a member of any secret organization, you are not allowed to occupy a position in the government”
and yet, almost all presidents, prime ministers or sub mother fuckers in the gov. are masons.

I see many pro-masonry bastards here…. This is not a soap opera!
The purpose of this article is to test the waters.
I’ll tell you the color of the waters: next revolution will be bloody.
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I want to be one! Idol1
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03/09/2012 06:13 AM
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You just have to ask yourself, if there is no conspiracy then how does this get to be on the front page of the worlds biggest and most famous state run tv website?
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Because IF there were a conspiracy, it would be reported on the front page of the worlds biggest and most famous state run tv website?

You just have to ask yourself, if you are a moron?

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Happy 2012/13.
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03/09/2012 06:19 AM
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Ignoring the conspiracies for a moment, I do like the way they support each other in times of distress..

I know a number of masons and they are always helping each other out, be it with support for family issues or with work and finances, they seem to go out of their way to help each other.

In a society where it is normal to stab everyone else in the back for the slightest perceived gain I admire that one trait in Masons (and like minded groups)

I will point out that I do dislike all the Masonic cloak and dagger nonsense, and dislike the way they seem to have their fingers in some of the many seedier conspiracies.
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I have been one for 11 years, the top half of your comment is completely true. To the bottom half of your comment I will say this. Any club or organisation that is members only and run behind closed doors will always be viewed with suspicion. It is true that in the past Freemasons did pull very large strings for each other in times of troubles.

The modern lodges are completely different. Gone are the days of the Chief Constable sorting out the criminal charges and fines. In fact if I approached the officers in my lodge and asked that, I would be blacked balled straight away. Times have changed and the brother hood has had to change with it.

As for their part in seedier conspiracies. Many high ranking officials and politicians are and have been members. Some of these individuals have been involved in less than orthodox dealings in the past. To say that is a direct link to the brotherhood is nonense, its a bit like saying because they all shoped at Tescos that Tescos has links to the dark side.

The main culprits that have seeked to sully the name of Freemasonry are the main religious houses. The brotherhood has in the past (and still is to certain degree to this day) always crossed paths with them. The main religions seek to control mankind, whereas we seek to controll ourselves and our surroundings. In the past this took alot of money away from them, so they started a hate campaign and started to link Freemasons with the dark side. The church back then was very powerfull and had alot of influence. This drove most lodges underground. This resulted in them being shrouded in even more mystery.

So just a brief outline at why we are viewed the way we are.
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03/09/2012 06:19 AM
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"Would you want to be a Freemason?"

As Groucho Marx once said, I would never want to be in any club that would allow a person like me to be a member.
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03/09/2012 06:20 AM
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Luciferians
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Masons ruined my country.
We live in poverty because of them.
There’s no meritocracy in this criminal organization.

We have a law:
“if you are a member of any secret organization, you are not allowed to occupy a position in the government”
and yet, almost all presidents, prime ministers or sub mother fuckers in the gov. are masons.

I see many pro-masonry bastards here…. This is not a soap opera!
The purpose of this article is to test the waters.
I’ll tell you the color of the waters: next revolution will be bloody.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1331745


No they didnt, the easten block leaders, religion and russia ruined your country. Check your history, the Brotherhood never realy had much interest in your country, the finger needs to pointed at the church, follow that link.
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03/09/2012 06:23 AM
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Luciferians
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Ye of little knowledge lives in blissfull carefree world, controlled by the ones he doesnt see.
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03/09/2012 06:30 AM
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"Would you want to be a Freemason?"

As Groucho Marx once said, I would never want to be in any club that would allow a person like me to be a member.
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Lol, but he was.
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03/09/2012 06:32 AM
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Ignoring the conspiracies for a moment, I do like the way they support each other in times of distress..

I know a number of masons and they are always helping each other out, be it with support for family issues or with work and finances, they seem to go out of their way to help each other.

In a society where it is normal to stab everyone else in the back for the slightest perceived gain I admire that one trait in Masons (and like minded groups)

I will point out that I do dislike all the Masonic cloak and dagger nonsense, and dislike the way they seem to have their fingers in some of the many seedier conspiracies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12221483


I have been one for 11 years, the top half of your comment is completely true. To the bottom half of your comment I will say this. Any club or organisation that is members only and run behind closed doors will always be viewed with suspicion. It is true that in the past Freemasons did pull very large strings for each other in times of troubles.

The modern lodges are completely different. Gone are the days of the Chief Constable sorting out the criminal charges and fines. In fact if I approached the officers in my lodge and asked that, I would be blacked balled straight away. Times have changed and the brother hood has had to change with it.

As for their part in seedier conspiracies. Many high ranking officials and politicians are and have been members. Some of these individuals have been involved in less than orthodox dealings in the past. To say that is a direct link to the brotherhood is nonense, its a bit like saying because they all shoped at Tescos that Tescos has links to the dark side.

The main culprits that have seeked to sully the name of Freemasonry are the main religious houses. The brotherhood has in the past (and still is to certain degree to this day) always crossed paths with them. The main religions seek to control mankind, whereas we seek to controll ourselves and our surroundings. In the past this took alot of money away from them, so they started a hate campaign and started to link Freemasons with the dark side. The church back then was very powerfull and had alot of influence. This drove most lodges underground. This resulted in them being shrouded in even more mystery.

So just a brief outline at why we are viewed the way we are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10978082


May we ask what degree you are in Freemasonry?
Richard S.
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03/09/2012 06:37 AM
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You are wrong in this day and age. The whole organization isn't needed anymore in the "brave new world" (that's the second cause of the article), despite following the same deity like the ones, in the really secret "brotherhoods". The church went down the same way, with the very same entity always on the top of it all.
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03/09/2012 06:58 AM
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Masons ruined my country.
We live in poverty because of them.
There’s no meritocracy in this criminal organization.

We have a law:
“if you are a member of any secret organization, you are not allowed to occupy a position in the government”
and yet, almost all presidents, prime ministers or sub mother fuckers in the gov. are masons.

I see many pro-masonry bastards here…. This is not a soap opera!
The purpose of this article is to test the waters.
I’ll tell you the color of the waters: next revolution will be bloody.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1331745


No they didnt, the easten block leaders, religion and russia ruined your country. Check your history, the Brotherhood never realy had much interest in your country, the finger needs to pointed at the church, follow that link.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10978082


Stupid mother fucker, how dare you to lecture me about something that is 4000Km away from you ?!
The (En) books you read about us were always tuned in your favor (“tell them what they want to hear” else no profit from a book where UK is the bad guy) .
I know what is happening in my country and because of whom…
Even the Church you blame is openly AGAINST the masonry.
You tell me to “Check your history”? What history? The one from the books or THE REAL one?
I wish you were here, so I can “touch” you... :)
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03/09/2012 06:59 AM
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Masons ruined my country.
We live in poverty because of them.
There’s no meritocracy in this criminal organization.

We have a law:
“if you are a member of any secret organization, you are not allowed to occupy a position in the government”
and yet, almost all presidents, prime ministers or sub mother fuckers in the gov. are masons.

I see many pro-masonry bastards here…. This is not a soap opera!
The purpose of this article is to test the waters.
I’ll tell you the color of the waters: next revolution will be bloody.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1331745


No they didnt, the easten block leaders, religion and russia ruined your country. Check your history, the Brotherhood never realy had much interest in your country, the finger needs to pointed at the church, follow that link.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10978082


Without question it was Masonry working for the pope in Rome. That's what world govt is about.

They have destroyed the USA too, even now are destroying the global economy.

FM are the global bankers i.e. Rothschilds!
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03/09/2012 07:03 AM
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Without real knowledge, you'll always stay dumb and not be able to spot shills like the above.
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I live in a town where many of the cops (if not all) are Freemasons. They make tons of money for doing very little, they actually negotiate their salaries (paid for by our taxes), in secret, and are corrupt to their core. Other than that they're a great bunch of guys.
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03/09/2012 07:14 AM
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Freemasonry is only interesting in the higher degrees. The more higher up, the more obedient to outside forces.
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03/09/2012 07:26 AM
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No. True Freemasons are geometric engineers draftsmen. That art has been used in the past for many great buildings of energy combine with astronomy. There secret is old news & act as they are a cult of elite secret men holding power.
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NOT for a long long long time mate. Where Im from the majority of police chiefs and there leuitenants are masons. The local councils are riddleds with them and they DO NOT help anyone outside their clique.

Yes you may be correct. they may have, once upon a time, but like anything it has been infiltrated, desecrated and now it serves only to inhibit the general purpose of society.

DIVIDE and CONQUER mon ami.
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03/09/2012 07:32 AM
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They realize a major part of the population of the world are waking up to these slimy cult pricks..
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No man, they do not realize..

THEY KNEW IT WILL HAPPEN, as almost everything..
They've just made a bad mistake 'to claim the Earth' that's their biggest and LAST mistake : ))))))))))))
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03/09/2012 07:35 AM
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Ive been to it its stupid and boring how could anyone think there is some kind of conspiracy with it?
Maybe certain lodges only like the ones who have the uber wealthy people go to them are really whacked out.
But the everyday ones are just fucking boring as shit!
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Freemasonry is only interesting in the higher degrees. The more higher up, the more obedient to outside forces.
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lmao, I dont even want begin to imagine..

In the middle of the night some darrk shadow wakes up and shouts "SUCK IT MADAFAKA" ... lmao..

For me, NOW, to be a mason means to be somebody's bitch..

I prefer if I will be a somebody's bitch, at least he'd be phisycal on 100%, right here in the 3rd dim ;DDDD but comeon...
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Ignoring the conspiracies for a moment, I do like the way they support each other in times of distress..

I know a number of masons and they are always helping each other out, be it with support for family issues or with work and finances, they seem to go out of their way to help each other.

In a society where it is normal to stab everyone else in the back for the slightest perceived gain I admire that one trait in Masons (and like minded groups)

I will point out that I do dislike all the Masonic cloak and dagger nonsense, and dislike the way they seem to have their fingers in some of the many seedier conspiracies.
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Sounds just a couple Mafia guys I know.
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Masons ruined my country.
We live in poverty because of them.
There’s no meritocracy in this criminal organization.

We have a law:
“if you are a member of any secret organization, you are not allowed to occupy a position in the government”
and yet, almost all presidents, prime ministers or sub mother fuckers in the gov. are masons.

I see many pro-masonry bastards here…. This is not a soap opera!
The purpose of this article is to test the waters.
I’ll tell you the color of the waters: next revolution will be bloody.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1331745


No they didnt, the easten block leaders, religion and russia ruined your country. Check your history, the Brotherhood never realy had much interest in your country, the finger needs to pointed at the church, follow that link.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10978082


Stupid mother fucker, how dare you to lecture me about something that is 4000Km away from you ?!
The (En) books you read about us were always tuned in your favor (“tell them what they want to hear” else no profit from a book where UK is the bad guy) .
I know what is happening in my country and because of whom…
Even the Church you blame is openly AGAINST the masonry.
You tell me to “Check your history”? What history? The one from the books or THE REAL one?
I wish you were here, so I can “touch” you... :)
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cruise
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Masons ruined my country.
We live in poverty because of them.
There’s no meritocracy in this criminal organization.

We have a law:
“if you are a member of any secret organization, you are not allowed to occupy a position in the government”
and yet, almost all presidents, prime ministers or sub mother fuckers in the gov. are masons.

I see many pro-masonry bastards here…. This is not a soap opera!
The purpose of this article is to test the waters.
I’ll tell you the color of the waters: next revolution will be bloody.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1331745


wooooooord

all those luciferian weirdos gonna be painted in their own blood color.. blue,green,white, black whatever....
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03/09/2012 07:49 AM
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A secret:
“something that should remain hidden from others (especially information that is not to be passed on)”

Good people don’t hide.
Only villains hide their evil intentions.

Secrecy leads to the dark side of the force.
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A secret:
“something that should remain hidden from others (especially information that is not to be passed on)”

Good people don’t hide.
Only villains hide their evil intentions.

Secrecy leads to the dark side of the force.
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Then who are the Jedis in real life?

5a
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03/09/2012 08:06 AM
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Article tries to debunk freemasonic conspiracies and want to recruit new sheep.

[link to www.bbc.co.uk]

Idol1
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This is a reputation campaign, and all they will do is blow smoke up the new recruits asses.

They will bring them on charity field trips and that's about it!!!
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A secret:
“something that should remain hidden from others (especially information that is not to be passed on)”

Good people don’t hide.
Only villains hide their evil intentions.

Secrecy leads to the dark side of the force.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1331745


Then who are the Jedis in real life?

5a
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The handful (literally!) people who neither intentionally lie, nor are deceived AND are dedicated to the truth. The great mass of people aren't able to spot them first, because they are not really interested second and you need to leave the kindergarden (see above) third.
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Sure why not.. I am not one of the norm Brain dead morons of GLP that thinks the masons are evil.. you uninformed mental midgets dont have a clue as to the masons being good or bad.. Just what you watch on TV and see youtube vid(oh I forgot youtube so it must be true) Maybe get out of your moms basement and get the real info on them.. I know that would mean you have to take your lazy ass and get up and do something, Bus some freash air might do your fat ass some good
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the only thing i have ever seen freemasonary do is shield corruption and allow it to continue i was given an opportunity to join a lodge but turned it down

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