Mormons are the prime evidence of a successful alien breed stock program

Not really BS. Even though people of african decent can become members of the curch, interracial marriage is still strongly discouraged. You won´t find official statements against it, but I remember being told in sunday school that it shouldn´t be done. That was about 8 -10 years after the new "revelation".

Mormons live clean and are STRONGLY encouraged to marry only other "worthy" church members. There´s probably some reptilain blood in the old church families- LOL

I´m a Jack Mormon, been in rebellion for decades.

Although the LDS doctrine is hard to swallow I do miss the sense of community...the kindness...

Why? The rest of the world is so trivial and just plain screwed up, Fundamental Christianity so brutal.

Maybe I´ll go back and tell them I can´t handle the dogma but I miss the gentle people, the sense of family.

Sounds like a nice place for an "old man"
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Yep, old men get tired of...philosophy and ego trippin, mad search for macho.

One good friend becomes more valuable than wealth and power.

Who do the Mormons say Jesus Christ is?

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that they believe your Church is wrong, your Christian creeds are abomination to God, and you pastor or Priest is a hireling of Satan.

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that there is salvation only in their church&emdash;all others are wrong.

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that those who have been through their temples are wearing secret underwear to protect themselves from "evil". This "evil" includes non- Mormons like you.

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU about their secret temple rites at all. If they did, you would spot them as non-Christians immediately.

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that they think "familiar spirits" are good, and that their Book of Mormon has a "familiar spirit". Leviticus 19;31 says familiar spirits defile one, and are to be avoided at all costs.

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that women receive salvation only through their Mormon husbands, and must remain pregnant for all eternity.

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that they intend to be gods themselves some day, and are helping to earn their exaltation to godhood by talking to you.

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that they intend to have many wives in heaven, carrying on multiple sex relations throughout eternity, until they have enough children to populate their own earth, so they can be "Heavenly Father" over their own planet!

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that you were once a spirit-child of their heavenly father, and one of his numerous wives before you were born on earth.

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that the Virgin Mary really wasn´t a virgin at all but had sex relations with their heavenly father to produce the Mormon version of Jesus Christ

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that they believe Jesus had at least three wives and children while he was on this earth.

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that the "heavenly father" they ask you to pray to with them, is really an exalted man that lives on a planet near the star base Kolob, and is not the Heavenly Father of the Bible at all.

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that Jesus was really Lucifer´s brother in the spirit world, and it was only due to a "heavenly council" vote that Jesus became our redeemer instead of Satan!!

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that there are over one hundred divisions in Mormonism. They conveniently "forget" this while criticizing the many denominations within the body of Christ

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that all their so- called scriptures such as the Book of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price, Doctrine and Covenants, and even their official "Mormon Doctrine" statements contradict each other on MAJOR doctrinal points. The King James Bible is likewise contradicted.

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that the reason the Book of Mormon has no maps is because there is not one scrap of archaeological evidence to support it!

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that the state of Utah, which is predominately Mormon, has a higher than the national average of wife-beating, child abuse, and teenage suicide.

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that their prophet Joseph Smith was heavily involved in the occult when he founded Mormonism.

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that that they encourage visitations from dead relatives from the "spirit world", a practice forbidden in the Bible. (Deuteronomy 18:10- 12.)

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that there are many accounts of Joseph Smith´s first vision besides he one they present to you, and all are different

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that their secret temple oaths are based on the Scottish Rite Masons.

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that for years they considered the Negro race inferior, and even one drop of Negro blood prevented a person from entering their temple.

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that they expect Christ to return to their temple in Missouri, but they haven´t built the temple He´s supposed to return to, because they don´t own the property. (It is owned by the "Temple Lot Mormons" who have plans o of their own, and won´t let the Salt Lake City group buy it).

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that they consider the Bible to be untrustworthy and full of errors.

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that Jesus´ death on the cross only partially saves the believer.

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that that according to Anton Lavey´s Satanic Bible, the demon god of the living dead is called "Mormo". Is it just a coincidence that the Mormons are so concerned with the dead?

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that on their Salt Lake City Temple they prominently display an upside-down star which is a Satanic symbol known as the Goat´s head.. Why?

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that they believe the Archangel Michael came down to earth with several of his celestial wives, and became Adam in the garden of Eden.

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that that they believe the angel Gabriel came down to earth and became Noah in the days of the flood.

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that their Prophet Joseph Smith prophesied falsely many times. For example, he foretold the second coming of Christ for 1891. The Bible teaches that one false prophecy puts a prophet under death sentence. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22).

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that their Prophet Joseph Smith did not die as a martyr as they claim, but was killed during a gun battle in which he himself killed two men and wounded a third.

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU about the Mountain Meadows Massacre in which they brutally murdered an innocent wagon train of settlers, of over one hundred men, women, and most of the children, traveling through Utah.

MORMONS WON´T TELL YOU that Joseph Smith taught that there were inhabitants on the moon, and Brigham Young taught there were inhabitants on the sun as well!

Who do the Mormons say Jesus Christ is?
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Same as the average Baptist says he is.

Any church-- the Institution can rightfully draw flak.

Institutions are dumb.

Dogma is dumb too.

Boils down to how we treat one another... a sense of community.

There ain´t no community if the folks treat each other bad.

This is a long article, sorry. But it shows in depth what Mormons believe:


Before we begin, let´s do a brief overview and comment on of some of their fundamental beliefs mentioed above. Then we´ll look at the less advertised beliefs. We´ll add some italicized comments where appropriate.

Mormonism´s fundamental belief (#2) is that man is not punished for Adam´s transgression.

But the Bible teaches, "For as by one man´s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man´s obedience many will be made righteous" (Romans 5:19).
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Mormonism´s fundamental belief (#3) is that man can also be saved by obedience to the law.

But the Bible teaches, ""No one will be declared righteous in His sight by observing the law" (Romans 3:20).
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Mormonism´s fundamental belief (#6) is that they believe in the same offices held by the early church (apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth).

But the Bible teaches that His church does not include the Aaronic Priesthood. See "The Biblical Priesthood".

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Mormonism´s fundamental belief (#10) is that they believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent".

But the Bible teaches that Israel has 12 tribes and that Jesus is returning to the Jerusalem near the Mount of Olives in present day Israel (Zechariah 14:4-11) to personally reign upon the earth.

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Mormonism´s fundamental belief (#11) says that they claim the privilege and allow all men to worship God how they want and what they want.

But Jesus said, "God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit and truth" (John 4:24).

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Mormons believe that all Christian churches are apostate (false), and that all Christian ministers are hirelings of Satan (this is evidenced by one of their secret Mormon ceremonies). They believe that the real Church of Jesus Christ did not prevail against the devil and thus the true teachings disappeared. Joseph Smith believed that he was called to restore the original teachings. Joseph Smith called this the great apostasy.

But according to Matthew 16:18, Jesus built his Church and it would exist for all time.

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Mormons believe they can become a god and receive their own worlds to rule as god. As gods, Mormons believe they will enjoy the reward of eternally procreating spirit children with which to populate their world.

Mormons say verbally that they believe in one God but their writings show that they believe in a plurality of Gods. See Mormon Gods and their Gospel. Mormons believe that the Father is God. The Book of Mormon also teaches that Jesus is God. At the same time, Joseph Smith taught that God the Father and Jesus are two separate beings. Thus, doing their math, 1 + 1 = 2 Gods.

Joseph Smith denounced the idea of the Trinity (1 God, 3 Persons). Then you add all the Mormons who believed they have reached godhood and you have thousands and thousands of gods according to their belief. Mormons have a very hard time answering the question: How can the Father be God and Jesus be God and still satisfy the truth that there is only one God?

The Bible on the other hand strongly states that ""Before Me no god was formed, nor will there be after Me. I, even I, am the Lord, and apart from Me there is no saviour" (Isaiah 43:10-11). The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are ONE God.

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Mormons teach that Jesus had to progress to Godhood because he wasn´t perfect (he wasn´t sinless).

According to the Bible, Jesus is the sinless Lamb of God which takes away the sins of the world.

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Mormons believe that God (Jesus) cannot exist in more than one place at a time. See Mormon Gods and their Gospel.

The Bible shows that Jesus is both on earth AND in heaven at the same time. While talking to Nicodemus on earth, Jesus said, "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, [even] the Son of Man WHICH IS IN HEAVEN" (John 3:13). Jesus IS (present tense) both on earth AND in heaven! Truly remarkable. I wonder if the Mormons have ever stopped to analyze this glorious statement.

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Mormons believe Jesus and Lucifer are spirit brothers born to a Father God and Mother Goddess.

According to the Bible, Jesus is the Most High God.

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Mormons believe that all humans are created as spirit beings through procreation (sex) between the Father God and His wife (wives?).

Mormons believe Jesus was born in Jerusalem - the Tribe of Benjamin (Alma 7:9,10).

According to (Matthew 2:1, Hebrews 7:14, Revelation 5:5, Matthew 1:6, 1 Samuel 16:1, Matthew 15:22; 21:9; Mark 10:47, Genesis 49:9-10), Jesus was born in Bethlehem - the Tribe of Judah.

Mormons believe that God held a council in Heaven where He revealed His plan. Lucifer wasn´t happy with it and they had a falling out. Jesus´ plan was accepted and then Jesus made the worlds according to God´s plan. Lucifer rebelled and took one third of the angels on his demonic team.

According to the Bible (in the Garden of Eden), the devil had a plan. His plan was to convince Adam and Eve that they could become gods.

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Mormons believe their god was once a man and is now an exalted being, a being of flesh and bones. God has a father, that father has a father, and so on and son on. According to LDS theology, Jesus has a Grandfather God.

The Mormon "Plan of Salvation" consists of a process of progression, centered on works. If successfully followed, it results in achieving godhood. This plan also defines alternative eternal destinations for those who fail to follow it successfully.

View the Biblical Plan of Salvation and the real meaning of forgiveness.

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Mormons believe that "Jesus is the God of the Old Testament and the Creator, but not necessarily the designer of planet earth". If you search the archives of the LDS scriptures and teachings, you will not find anything to show that the designer and creator are 2 separate beings.

The Bible too is full of scriptural references of Jesus being the Creator and it makes no distinction between designer and creator. As far as the Bible is concerned, creator = designer = Jesus.

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Mormons believe they are saved by works + faith.

Christians believe they are saved by faith only.

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Mormons believe Jesus was not always God. That Jesus was created.

According to the Bible, Jesus is the ETERNAL and EVERLASTING FATHER - (Isaiah 9:6) - "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Father. He is the great I AM (John 8:58) - "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am".

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Mormons say they believe in the same Jesus of the Bible. But when you look at what Mormons teach about Jesus, the Jesus of Mormonism is not the same Jesus of the Holy Bible.

Mormons believe that one can know the truth by feelings (this they call "burning in the bosom").

The Bible teaches that feelings is not the way. See "How to Know the Truth".

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Mormons believe that befor one can enter one of the temples, he or she must be worthy. Each Mormon must annually pass an interview process that, if successful, rewards him or her with a ´temple recommend´ in the form of a small ID card which allows him or her to enter the temple. The Mormon must pass this interview. See the "Biblical view of Temples".

Mormons believe that the Aaronic Priesthood is in operation today. Mormon boys become Aaronic priests at the age of 12. See the "The Biblical Priesthood".

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MORMONISM VS CHRISTIANITY

Comparing the Mormon Jesus with the Jesus of the Holy Bible


How was Jesus born?



According to Mormon theology, Jesus is the literal son of god and his goddess wife. He was born through physical sexual relations with Mary. Brigham Young taught that Jesus was not born with any involvement of the Holy Spirit.

According to the Bible, Jesus is not the literal son of god and his goddess wife. He was not born through sexual relations. Mary was a virgin was Jesus was born. There is no such thing as a goddess wife. Jesus was conceived of the Holy Spirit {Matthew 1:20}.


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Where was Jesus born? Of what tribe?

According to Mormon theology, Jesus was born in Jerusalem {Book of Mormon, Alma

7:9,10} and is of the Tribe of Benjamin. The city of Jerusalem {Jebusi} belonged to the tribe of Benjamin {Joshua 18:21- 28}.

According to the Bible, Jesus was born in Bethlehem, of the Davidic, kingly line of Judah {Matthew 2:1, Hebrews 7:14}. Jesus is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah {Revelation 5:5}. Jesus is a descendant of David, a Bethlehemite {Matthew 1:6, 1 Samuel 16:1}. Several other verses refer to Jesus as "Son of David" {Matthew 15:22; 21:9; Mark 10:47}. The line of King was through the Tribe of Judah and not Benjamin {Genesis 49:9-10}.

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Has Jesus always been God?

According to Mormon theology, Jesus has not always been a god {Doctrines and Covenants 93:12-14,21}.

According to the Bible, Jesus has always been God.


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Begotten of the Father

According to Mormon theology, Jesus was not the only begotten son of God. Adam is mentioned as being the only begotten son {Moses 5:9}.

According to the Bible, Jesus is the only begotten son of the Father {John 1:18}.


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The nature of God

According to Mormon theology, in Doctrines and Covenants 130:22, "The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man´s; the Son also". According to Doctrines and Covenants section 93, man was co-eternal with God in the beginning. In 1844, Joseph Smith began teaching that the Book of Abraham teaches that God is but one link in an infinite ancestral chain of Gods stretching back through eternity. God is only one of innumerable Gods. The Church believes that humans are the literal offspring of God and one of his celestial wives, and because of this we all have the potential to achieve exaltation to divine status. Smith taught beginning in 1844 that God had a literal father, and that father had a literal father, and so on. Mormons also teach that we existed in heaven with God {our literal Father} as spirits before we became human.

Mormonism teaches that humans can become gods and that God had a father, who in turn had a father ... thus God has a great grandfather and soon and so on. According to LDS theology, there are a countless number of gods.

According to the Bible, Jesus teaches us that God is a spirit. Man was not co-eternal with God. Jesus created man. God did not pro-create with celestial wives. In the Garden of Eden, Satan told Adam and Eve the lie that humans can become gods.

According to the Bible, there is ONLY ONE God. He is the ONLY ONE that created all the many stars, galaxies, and planets. Beside Him, there is no other.

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The existence of Jesus

According to Mormon theology, Jesus had a beginning. Jesus was a created being.

According to the Bible, Jesus did not have a beginning. Jesus is the Eternal God.


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The Trinity

In Mormon theology, in the "Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith p. 370", Joseph Smith taught that God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit exist as 3 gods. The Trinity is three separate gods.

According to the Bible, Jesus is not one of 3 gods in the godhead. The Trinity is 3 persons in one God. Jesus is God. There is only 1 God, but many false gods.



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Priesthood

According to Mormon theology, Jesus continued the Aaronic priesthood. At age twelve, Mormon boys become members of the Aaronic, or lesser priesthood, and at nineteen become eligible for the Melchizedek, or higher priesthood.

According to the Bible, Jesus replaced the old testament priesthood with a new one. "For the priesthood being changed Ö" {Hebrews 7:11-13}. The new priesthood is the "holy priesthood of believers in Jesus" {1 Peter 2:5, Revelation {1:6, 5:10, and 20:6}}. Jesus is the mediator of the new covenant in His Blood. This is what he teaches during the Last Supper.



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Was Jesus revealed to Old Testament peoples?

According to Mormon theology, the descendants of Adam and Eve {through the help of the Holy Spirit} believed in the Son, repented of their sins, and were saved {Moses 5:14-15}.

According to the Bible, Jesus and his Sonship with the Father was revealed in New Testament times. The descendants of Adam and Eve did not even know about the concept of Christ being the begotten Son of the Father. The whole concept of believing in the Son, repenting of one´s sins, and being saved is not found in the Old Testament. This is New Testament terminology.



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Spirit brothers

According to Mormon theology, Jesus is the brother of all spirits born in heaven. He is also the spirit brother of Lucifer.

According to the Bible, Jesus is not the brother of all spirits born in heaven and he is not the spirit brother of Lucifer. Lucifer is an angel created by Jesus {who created all angels}. Lucifer rebelled against God. Only those that do the will of the Father are considered spiritual brothers and sisters of Jesus {Mark 3:35}. Jesus even told some Jews that their spiritual father was the devil {John 8:44}.



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Earthly marriage and celestial marriage

According to Mormon theology, Jesus was married and had wives. Thus, in Heaven, Jesus will continue to be married to his wives forever.

According to the Bible, Jesus was not married and did not have wives. Jesus said there is no celestial marriage. "For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven" {Matthew 22:30}.



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Polygamy

According to Mormon theology, Jesus was a polygamist {Journal of Discourses, Volume 4, page 259}.

According to the Bible, Jesus was not married and did not have wives.



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Atonement for Sin

According to Mormon theology, Jesus atoned for sin on the cross and in the garden of Gethsemene. Jesus´ sacrifice was not able to cleanse us from all our sins, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 3, p. 247, 1856.

According to the Bible, Jesus atoned for sin on the cross alone. His atoning death on the cross was able to cleanse all sins



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Plan of Salvation

According to Mormon theology, Jesus offered a plan of salvation in addition to the one offered by Lucifer. Also, there is no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of God, Doctrines of Salvation, Vol. 1, p. 188.

According to the Bible, Jesus is the only plan for salvation. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. This is no salvation in any other name



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Where will Jesus return?

According to Mormon theology, Jesus is expected to return to a future temple in Missouri.

According to the Bible, Jesus will return to the Jerusalem in Israel {Zechariah 14:4}.



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Garden of Gethsemane

According to Mormon theology, Jesus sweat blood in the Garden of Gethsemane.

According to the Bible, Jesus did not sweat blood in the Garden of Gethsemane. "And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly, and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground" {Luke 22:44}.



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Churches and Christians

According to Mormon theology, Christ´s churches existed around 150 B.C. {Mosiah 18.17}. Jesus´ followers were called Christians around 70 B.C. {Alma 46:15}.

According to the Bible, Jesus´ church had not yet been built just prior to our Lord´s crucifixion around 30 A.D. {Matthew 16.18}. Also, Jesus´ followers were first called Christians in Antioch around 44 A.D. {Acts 11:26}.



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Passover

According to Mormon theology, Jesus did not mention the Passover.

According to the Bible, Jesus mentioned the Passover to his disciples.



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Period of darkness

According to Mormon theology, when Jesus died darkness covered the land for three days {Nephi 8:19, 23}.

According to the Bible, when Jesus died darkness covered the land for three hours {Luke 23:44}.



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Where did Jesus preach the Gospel?

According to Mormon theology, Jesus came to the United States to preach the gospel.

According to the Bible, Jesus did not go to the United States or any other country after his resurrection to preach the gospel for that matter. He told his disciples to go to the ends of the earth and preach the gospel. This is called the Great Commission {Mark 16:15}.



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Did the Church of Christ cease to exist?

In Mormon theology, Jesus´ church ceased to exist and Joseph Smith came to restore it.

According to the Bible, Jesus built his Church and it would exist for all time {Matthew 16:18}.



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Praying to and worshipping Jesus



In Mormon temples, Jesus is not worshipped and is not called God. Mormons do not call Jesus their Lord and God. Mormons never address prayer to Jesus Christ. Prayers are made in His name, but only addressed to the "Heavenly Father". They do not go through Christ.

According to the Bible, Jesus Bible is prayed to {Acts 7:55-60; Rom. 10:13; Zech 13:9 with 1 Cor. 1:1-2}, is worshiped {Matt. 2:2,11; 14:33; 28:9; John 9:35-38; Heb. 1:6}, and is called God {John 20:28; Heb. 1:8}. Jesus allowed Thomas to address Him as "My Lord and my God" in John 20:28. In Isaiah 9:6, He is called "The mighty God" and "The everlasting Father," and we read in Micah 5:2 that Jesus is "from everlasting."

Christians go through Christ because Jesus is the only mediator between God and man.



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The Testament of Jesus Christ

In Mormon theology, Jesus gave a second New Testament {or Covenant}. The Book of Mormon is said to be another Testament of Jesus Christ.

According to the Bible, Jesus only gave ONE New Testament {or Covenant}. See Matthew 26:28, Mark 14:24, and Luke 22:20.



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If you put your faith in a Jesus that is false, then your faith is useless.



The True Salvation



Mormons believe that one´s salvation is based on such good works as baptism, good deeds, missionary work, and following Mormon teachings. In The Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, justification by faith in Jesus Christ is called a "pernicious doctrine" twice and he states that it has been "an influence for evil." {pp. 107, 480} Bruce McConkie once stated at Brigham Young University that a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is "improper and perilous" {Church News, March 20, 1982, p. 5}

Ephesians 2:8-9 says, "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." Romans 4:5 says that salvation comes to those who do not work for salvation, but believe on Jesus Christ instead!

Jesus Christ came into this world to lay down His sinless life for YOU-to pay for your sins because you couldn´t. Jesus is your only hope for salvation. Only by receiving Him as your Saviour can you enter the gates of Heaven. There is no other way. "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father but by me." {John 14:6} "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." {Acts 4:12}

The Lord Jesus Christ has come and PAID for your sins by shedding His own Blood on Calvary. By receiving Him as your Saviour, you can be WASHED from all your sins in His precious Blood {Rev. 1:5; Col. 1:14; Acts 20:28; I Pet. 1:18-19}. Notice these important words from Romans 5:8-9: "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him."

Jesus PAID your way to Heaven! Your church cannot save you! Only by receiving Jesus Christ as your Saviour can you escape the damnation of Hell. Are you willing to forsake YOUR righteousness and receive Jesus Christ as your Saviour, your ONLY HOPE for Salvation? Romans 10:13 says, "Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." Romans 10:9 says, "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." Why not pray right now and ask the Lord to come into your heart and cleanse you from all sin? He will save you just as He promised.

´Look at the kids coming out of Utah: beautiful, healthy.´


yeah...ok, lol. Mormon genealogy is bookkeeping for incest and polygamy.

morons(mormons),as in followers of the "angel of light ´ moroni, are prime evidence of what happens when demons channel through renagade freemason proto new agers and start a big cult before the others had a chance too(but they soon made up for that in the land of the cults(ie USA) the next century,but many are still quite jealous that they have "church" status with the IRS, lol.

According to Mormon theology, Jesus is the literal son of god and his goddess wife.
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Did 24 years active-time in the M-church and I never heard that!

There is a huge gaggle of different Christian churches with different weird slants on things, everything from wearing funny underwear to snake handling, rolling around on the floor babbling, sending cash to that silly dink Pat Robertson or voting for a dipshit Bonesman because he says he is born-again.

I think valid worship is beyond all this silly stuff and bashing each other over the head for sundry superstitions.

They must be raising good stock for the military,
TPTB must love them. Then again, they must draw
SS for a lot of years ;)

I have gone to many churches in my life, including the LDS church. I don´t agree with the dogma, however, I haven´t agreed with any other church, including Baptist, yada, yada...You want to find God, look within. These religions and that old History book aren´t going to do it. If people would spend as much time finding out whats wrong with their own church as they do everyone elses they might actually learn something, rather than dumbing down every Sunday. What I have found is that most Christians are closed minded and unwilling to really search history out. I haven´t spent much time with other religions, so I withhold judgement, however, I imagine they are the same. Fundamentalists, no matter the religion are the worst.....

I have gone to many churches in my life
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Me too. When I was really destitute, couldn´t handle my own trip anymore, drunk and lost, the Mormons helped me with food and the Native American Elders turned me around from my booze-struggle.

In a way Institutionalization, the body of a church,is chicken-shit and we go for the frills rather than face down the actual spiritual state.

By the way:
User ID: 2682
is Kent Steadman

I can´t seem to sign on to this saloon anymore.

[link to www.exmormon.org]

A lively discussion about M´oism by former Mormons.

I´m afraid to tell you the truth about it

that would be "Mr. Steadman"
to the unitiated

glad you are still around.
your wit and smirk (usually, but not here)
are a welcome relief from the public urinal.

Here´s Steven Greer´s bizarre take on Mormonism.

"There´s a committee of 200 to 300 people who are on the policy board for this [UFO-ET] issue. Admiral Bobby Ray Inman, who went from head of the National Security Agency to the board of SAIC - which is one of the crown jewels of this covert entity - is a member. So is Admiral Harry Trane. George Bush Sr., Cheney and Rumsfeld are involved, as is the Liechtenstein banking family. The Mormon corporate empire has an enormous interest in this subject; they have much more power than the White house or the Pentagon over this issue. And there are secret cells withing the Vatican."

IMHO, this shows how different styles of ´implant´ networking cause different distortions in human perception. The style of networking your family, friends, tribe, ethnic group, or nation subscribes to is the most significant factor in its strength and weakness.

ARIZONA NEWS PROGRAMS AND TV show all the PEDOPHILIA and that MORMONS up north are definitely MISOGYNISTS.. and KEEP THE WOMEN AND GIRLS STUPID >> NO EDUCATION.. SLAVE LABOR.. YUCK..as a WOMAN THAT IS THE LAST GROUP I WOULD WISH TO BE BORN INTO>>

AH HO WIO

ARIZONA NEWS PROGRAMS AND TV show all the PEDOPHILIA and that MORMONS up north are definitely MISOGYNISTS.. and KEEP THE WOMEN AND GIRLS STUPID >> NO EDUCATION.. SLAVE LABOR.. YUCK..as a WOMAN THAT IS THE LAST GROUP I WOULD WISH TO BE BORN INTO>>

AH HO WIO

Ok out with in now. Just answer this question and i´ll be quiet.

Was Jesus a Jew or a Mormon?

ALL RELIGIONS ARE WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.....