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So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!

 
thirdtard
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So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
I don't understand you Americans...

You know that Republicans and Democratas are exactly the same shit.

Both parties are controlled by the same bankers and the same big corporations.

So, why you keep voting for those parties?

Why you don't create a Third Party?

Think outside the box!
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03/09/2012 09:26 PM
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
Wake up!
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03/09/2012 09:27 PM
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
Republicans + Democrats = The Matrix


Take the red pill and get out of this shit!
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
Wake up!
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money talks.
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03/09/2012 09:31 PM
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
Wake up!
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money talks.
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And why the people can't talk?

Is it illegal to create a third party in America, and run in the elections?
Skin Suit

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03/09/2012 09:31 PM
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
people like to live in a two dimensional world. left/right good/evil up/down black/white then/now

grammatically it's entrenched in our language and the semantics to think in two dimensions.

there are some languages that have a little more "3-d" to them. but we still live in the flatland of 'either/or"

read the book "flatland"

it's written by a mathematician who potrays the world in 2 dimensions.

it was written over a hundred years ago but is still spot on.

read
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03/09/2012 09:35 PM
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
I would like to see a "viable" third party to counter the two choices we have now. I would bet that millions of Americans who do NOT vote because of the current two party system would be interested in seeing another party as well.
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
putin

You mean like

America First Party
American Party
American Populist Party
American Third Position Party
America's Party
Boston Tea Party
Christian Liberty Party
Citizens Party of the United States
Constitution Party
Communist Party of the United States of America
Democratic Party
Freedom Socialist Party
Green Party of the United States
Independence Party of America
Independent American Party
Jefferson Republican Party
Justice Party
Labor Party
Libertarian Party
Modern Whig Party
National Socialist Movement
New Union Party*
Objectivist Party
Party for Socialism and Liberation
Peace and Freedom Party
Prohibition Party
Raza Unida Party
Reform Party of the United States of America
Republican Party
Socialist Action
Socialist Alternative
Socialist Equality Party
Socialist Labor Party of America*
Socialist Party USA
Socialist Workers Party
United States Marijuana Party
United States Pacifist Party
United States Pirate Party
Unity Party of America
Workers World Party
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03/09/2012 09:38 PM
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
It's not that there isn't a third party.

It's that nobody gives them money and in reality the VAST MAJORITY of americans do not know whats going on in the world, and even if they do, they don't give a shit.

Honest Truth. If it doesn't cause gas to go up, American Idol to be rescheduled, or there isn't an explosion seemingly created by a minority group, my fellow Americans don't even know it happened.
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03/09/2012 09:39 PM
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
We did....its called the Tea Party !!!
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03/09/2012 09:42 PM
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
Com'on, look at France!

Even the French presidential election that will happen in April 22 is more democratic than the America election of November.



Look how many candidates for President they have in France this year:


Nicolas Sarkozy - Union pour un Mouvement Populaire (UMP)

François Hollande - Parti Socialiste (PS)

François Bayrou - Mouvement Démocrate (MoDem)

Marine Le Pen - Front National (FN)

Jean-Luc Mélenchon - Front de Gauche (FDG)

Eva Joly - Europe Écologie–Les Verts (EELV)

Dominique de Villepin - République Solidaire (RS)

Nathalie Arthaud - Lutte Ouvrière




ANY voter, in ANY region France, can vote for ANY of those candidates...

Call that a real democracy...
Anonymous Coward
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03/09/2012 09:43 PM
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
We did....its called the Tea Party !!!
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...and that got co-opted. ANY large scale (or even medium scale) organization WILL get co-opted, de-railed or made illegal.
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03/09/2012 09:45 PM
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
The "two parties regime" of the USA is almost like the "one party regime" of China, because the two parties are controlled by the same masters...

I don't see a real difference...
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03/09/2012 09:48 PM
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
The "two parties regime" of the USA is almost like the "one party regime" of China, because the two parties are controlled by the same masters...

I don't see a real difference...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12260836

Actually, the two parties are different, but they are working toward the same goal. The Hegelian Dialect in action.
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
Com'on, look at France!

Even the French presidential election that will happen in April 22 is more democratic than the America election of November.



Look how many candidates for President they have in France this year:


Nicolas Sarkozy - Union pour un Mouvement Populaire (UMP)

François Hollande - Parti Socialiste (PS)

François Bayrou - Mouvement Démocrate (MoDem)

Marine Le Pen - Front National (FN)

Jean-Luc Mélenchon - Front de Gauche (FDG)

Eva Joly - Europe Écologie–Les Verts (EELV)

Dominique de Villepin - République Solidaire (RS)

Nathalie Arthaud - Lutte Ouvrière




ANY voter, in ANY region France, can vote for ANY of those candidates...

Call that a real democracy...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12260836


The US is a republic not a democracy. And here's the people running in 2012

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

there's hundreds... hell even Roseanne Barr is running for president.
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
Oh, of course they pretend to fight, and to have very different opinions, just as a distraction...

But they are controlled by the same masters, and in the questions that "really matter", the two parties agree...
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03/09/2012 09:51 PM
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
Com'on, look at France!

Even the French presidential election that will happen in April 22 is more democratic than the America election of November.



Look how many candidates for President they have in France this year:


Nicolas Sarkozy - Union pour un Mouvement Populaire (UMP)

François Hollande - Parti Socialiste (PS)

François Bayrou - Mouvement Démocrate (MoDem)

Marine Le Pen - Front National (FN)

Jean-Luc Mélenchon - Front de Gauche (FDG)

Eva Joly - Europe Écologie–Les Verts (EELV)

Dominique de Villepin - République Solidaire (RS)

Nathalie Arthaud - Lutte Ouvrière




ANY voter, in ANY region France, can vote for ANY of those candidates...

Call that a real democracy...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12260836


The US is a republic not a democracy. And here's the people running in 2012

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

there's hundreds... hell even Roseanne Barr is running for president.
 Quoting: BoboTheHobo




There is not contradiction between democracy and republic, moron. One needs to be very stupid to believe this bullshit. Republics can be authoritarian republics or democratic republics, and Monarchies can be absolutist monarchies or democratic monarchies.

The inverse of "Republic" is "Monarchy", and not "Democracy".
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03/09/2012 09:52 PM
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
u say that shit like we have a choice. wata dumbass
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03/09/2012 09:56 PM
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
u say that shit like we have a choice. wata dumbass
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We do have a choice. Obey or die.
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03/09/2012 09:56 PM
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
List of third party and independent presidential candidates in the USA in 2012:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]



Well, that list is bullshit, because those candidates don't have ballot access.

Each of those candidates will have ballot access only in a few states.

That's how the authoritarian regime of the USA works: third party candidates are excluded from ballot access...
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03/09/2012 09:57 PM
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
Did yo just awaken from a deep sleep? Maybe some day we will have a Independent Party you think.
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03/09/2012 10:01 PM
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
For example, did you know that Rocky Anderson is running for President of the United States in November?

He is the candidate of Justice Party.


But guess what? You can only vote for Rocky Anderson if you live in Mississippi or in Utah. If you live in other state, you can't vote for him!
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03/09/2012 10:05 PM
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
This is an authoritarian regime!
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03/09/2012 10:06 PM
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
Hey OP....if you think it is only the USA that has some kind of "control problem", then you need to catch up.
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03/09/2012 10:10 PM
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
Yes well, we've been so busy trying to help "3rd World Countries" that we have failed to see what was happening to us......but who's going to bail us out when WE are the "3rd World Country"?
~If everyone would take responsibility for their actions or lack of, then we could all be free~
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03/09/2012 10:11 PM
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
Ever heard of Ross Perot and the giant sucking sound? Well along came the Oklahoma City bombing and no one cares about a third party any more. Do some research..ok? Lots of people ( at least in the south and parts of the midwest) wanted their voices heard before the whole Oklahoma City crap...Once that happened well.....
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
Ever heard of Ross Perot and the giant sucking sound? Well along came the Oklahoma City bombing and no one cares about a third party any more. Do some research..ok? Lots of people ( at least in the south and parts of the midwest) wanted their voices heard before the whole Oklahoma City crap...Once that happened well.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7772455


clappa
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Anonymous Coward
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03/09/2012 10:23 PM
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
When I was young (I'm now 50) they use to tell us in school all about the Soviet Union,,, how you could vote for party "A" or party "B" but it was always party "A" anyway. Well that's what we have here in the US We can vote for Obamma (a Globalist) or Romney (a Globalist) either way we will be screwed. They will wage war with whom they want, when they want, they will kill your sons and daughters when they want, and you will be left on the sidelines...cheering.
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03/09/2012 10:33 PM
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bump
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
Ever heard of Ross Perot and the giant sucking sound? Well along came the Oklahoma City bombing and no one cares about a third party any more. Do some research..ok? Lots of people ( at least in the south and parts of the midwest) wanted their voices heard before the whole Oklahoma City crap...Once that happened well.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7772455


clappa
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Thank you Beso some times I think I am the only one that remembers this.
Beso

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03/09/2012 10:40 PM
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Re: So, why Americans don't create a Third Party? Republicans and Democrats are the same shit!
Ever heard of Ross Perot and the giant sucking sound? Well along came the Oklahoma City bombing and no one cares about a third party any more. Do some research..ok? Lots of people ( at least in the south and parts of the midwest) wanted their voices heard before the whole Oklahoma City crap...Once that happened well.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7772455


clappa
 Quoting: Beso


Thank you Beso some times I think I am the only one that remembers this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7772455


Nope NOT forgotten......just how to regroup?????


obigbro UGH!!!!
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