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So is all of this talk about Planet X / Nibiru / Comet Elenin et all..

 
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So is all of this talk about Planet X / Nibiru / Comet Elenin et all..
Really just a cover-up for us heading towards a black hole?

Is this why Jupiter and Venus are 'lighting' up more?

Not all black holes are active, some are dormant but their gravitational mass is several million times greater than our own Sun.

I am curious as to what others think!

I just don't buy into all that other story, but considering all of the recent debris flying by and the whole 'ort cloud' it has me re-evaluating what information has been given to me.



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No it is not a black hole lol.

As many astronomers would see them by the changing surroundings.
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Re: So is all of this talk about Planet X / Nibiru / Comet Elenin et all..
No it is not a black hole lol.

As many astronomers would see them by the changing surroundings.
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You can't see a black hole, that is why they are called black. We can only use dodgy techniques to gauge whether or not what we are seeing is a black hole...

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Nibiru is not real at all
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Re: So is all of this talk about Planet X / Nibiru / Comet Elenin et all..
One big question which remains is why most galaxies in our cosmic neighbourhood, including the Milky Way, appear to have a dormant black hole which is not funnelling in large amounts of matter at present.


"Hubble provided strong evidence that all galaxies contain black holes millions or billions of times heavier than our sun. This has quite dramatically changed our view of galaxies. I am convinced that Hubble over the next ten years will find that black holes play a much more important role in the formation and evolution of galaxies than we believe today. Who knows, it may even influence our picture of the whole structure of the Universe...?"

Duccio Macchetto
ESA astronomer, Head of the Science Policies Division, STSc
 Quoting: Hubble


Source: [link to www.spacetelescope.org]

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Re: So is all of this talk about Planet X / Nibiru / Comet Elenin et all..
Looking at the past and reflecting on possible logic behind lost mystery concepts...

There is a persistent belief in alchemic and hermetic tradition in the existence of two suns: a hidden one of pure "philosophical gold," consisting of the essential Fire conjoined with aether, and the apparent one of profane "material gold." The "dark, consuming fire" of the material sun leads to its being called the "Dark" or "Black Sun."
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Source: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

In theory, if we think on this, we really do have two important Suns.

The one that gives light to the earth and the second, hidden one who 'binds' everything together. It is the glue of our galaxy...

Interestingly enough, if we truly ponder this and wonder on its real implications, one may explain fair easier, the great 'floods' and destruction's of the world.

A common misconception I see from people is that the dormant black hole will simply rip 'us' apart or such.

But we would NOT feel the affect of us speeding up as we approach towards it and then re-emerge being pushed around the other side. But, time would be increasing - literally, the time space around us would be increasing and we wouldn't even know it.
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Nearly every massive galaxy seems to have a supermassive black hole, but only a few percent appear to be active. Our galaxy's central black hole is dormant, and this and similar black holes are not included in the Swift census. All black holes were likely once active, and why some remain active and others are dormant in the modern, local universe is a mystery.
 Quoting: NASA


Source: [link to www.nasa.gov]

IMO, this is the universes answer to warp drive...
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Example of what I'm getting at...

example1
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Example of what I'm getting at...

:example1:
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oh shit. I see what you're getting at...

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Re: So is all of this talk about Planet X / Nibiru / Comet Elenin et all..
The former SS Generals' Hall (German: "Obergruppenführersaal") in the first floor of the North Tower of Wewelsburg Castle. In the middle of the hall the dark green sun wheel mosaic is located which is called the "Black Sun" since the post-war years. The architects who redesigned the castle during the Nazi era called the axis of the North Tower the "Center of the World".
 Quoting: Wikipedia


Just as their black Sun was the center of the 'world', our black Sun is the center of our Galaxy.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Source: [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Re: So is all of this talk about Planet X / Nibiru / Comet Elenin et all..
IMO, this could explain the recent increase in Solar activity as well. Our Sun is moving faster and faster as this occurs. Like a piece of burning material, flickering as it moves faster around the open air - leaving flaming embers in its wake... Our sun too... could be doing the same thing.


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Electromagnetic Signatures from Dormant Massive Black Hole Binaries assive at Galactic Nucleiat Nuclei

Fukun Liu
Astronomy Department, Peking University & KIAA,
Beijing, China

[link to www.itp.uzh.ch]
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Re: So is all of this talk about Planet X / Nibiru / Comet Elenin et all..
You at least understand the fact that a black hole creates a gravity well of incredible size compared to its actual size.

Now,if there was a wandering "black hole" coming through our solar system the effect on all the planets and moons etc... would be obvious.

It just is not true. There is no black hole wandering through any where near us or our solar system.


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Re: So is all of this talk about Planet X / Nibiru / Comet Elenin et all..
You at least understand the fact that a black hole creates a gravity well of incredible size compared to its actual size.

Now,if there was a wandering "black hole" coming through our solar system the effect on all the planets and moons etc... would be obvious.

It just is not true. There is no black hole wandering through any where near us or our solar system.


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You don't understand at all, it is the galactic center.
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Re: So is all of this talk about Planet X / Nibiru / Comet Elenin et all..
You at least understand the fact that a black hole creates a gravity well of incredible size compared to its actual size.

Now,if there was a wandering "black hole" coming through our solar system the effect on all the planets and moons etc... would be obvious.

It just is not true. There is no black hole wandering through any where near us or our solar system.


peace
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Proof that your assumptions are wrong.

[link to imageshack.us]

Source: [link to lisa-light.aei.mpg.de (secure)]

quiescent black hole not the same as a 'black hole'
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Re: So is all of this talk about Planet X / Nibiru / Comet Elenin et all..
You at least understand the fact that a black hole creates a gravity well of incredible size compared to its actual size.

Now,if there was a wandering "black hole" coming through our solar system the effect on all the planets and moons etc... would be obvious.

It just is not true. There is no black hole wandering through any where near us or our solar system.


peace
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Proof that your assumptions are wrong.

[link to imageshack.us]

Source: [link to lisa-light.aei.mpg.de (secure)]

quiescent black hole not the same as a 'black hole'
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A "quiescent black hole" still has the same gravity, so it would perturb the orbits of the other planets. That's not happening, so there can't be any unobserved massive object of any sort in the solar system.

BTW, your links don't in any way disprove his statements, in fact they support them...
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Re: So is all of this talk about Planet X / Nibiru / Comet Elenin et all..
You at least understand the fact that a black hole creates a gravity well of incredible size compared to its actual size.

Now,if there was a wandering "black hole" coming through our solar system the effect on all the planets and moons etc... would be obvious.

It just is not true. There is no black hole wandering through any where near us or our solar system.


peace
 Quoting: mikebo2


Proof that your assumptions are wrong.

[link to imageshack.us]

Source: [link to lisa-light.aei.mpg.de (secure)]

quiescent black hole not the same as a 'black hole'
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A "quiescent black hole" still has the same gravity, so it would perturb the orbits of the other planets. That's not happening, so there can't be any unobserved massive object of any sort in the solar system.

BTW, your links don't in any way disprove his statements, in fact they support them...
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I disagree, prove that we are not? It has been confirmed that we are moving towards the galactic plane...

The galactic plane is the plane in which the majority of a disk-shaped galaxy's mass lies.
 Quoting: Wiki


Source: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Secondly, I doubt that you even bothered to read/comprehend the research articles. If it were inaccurate or wrong, explain in detail, not conjecture but with facts and provide us with sources to prove and discredit this.

Until then, I think you're full of it! And a disinfo shill.

I am not claiming that there is a black hole in our solar system.. what I am getting at is this...

The cloud of dense dust that collapse to form our galaxy created a black hole in the center. The quackademia wants us to believe that the disc is 2 dimensional when we really have a Z axis, meaning we can move up/down (y) left/right (x) and forward/backwards (z).

Additionally, they attempt to paint our own solar system as a two dimensional, flat disc, with all of the planets and moons orbiting around the equatorial belt of the sun. This is simply not so!

The sun is really leading the pack with everything caught in its wake. Or in other words we are not orbiting the sun as everyone has been taught.

Thirdly, if at the center of our galaxy is a black hole and surrounding that black hole is gas/comets etc that form this 'galactic plane' or 'ort cloud' which ever it may be, further alludes to where I am going.

And finally, the simple fact that we pretend to live in a 2D world, further proves this cover up. The galaxy is NOT a flat disk, that would imply only 2 dimensions, again we have 3 dimensions. We are spiraling inwards towards the center of the galaxy which is where the DMBH resides.

[link to imageshack.us]

Until you can bring forth REAL facts and evidence to support your claims, I just don't believe it.
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Great Thread OP... 5 stars + flower
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Elaborating further...

When the 'big bang' occured we were thrown out into space, but we are more or less inside of a vortex that is being pulled back to the source. Think of it as looking at a parking cone upside down. On the flat, open end, is the 'disc' aspect of the Galaxy. Everything is spiraling back down towards the event horizon / galactic nuclei.

This knowledge is codified in ALL of the step pyramids. Many of us have heard that as you ascend the steps of the pyramid it takes less and less time to navigate the outside area of the pyramid. This in essence is an example of us passing along the Galaxy as we circle around the 'galactic plane', each trip takes less and less time as we descend back down.
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A strong, highly-tilted interstellar magnetic field near
the Solar System


[link to www.google.com]
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Found this surfing:

Using NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory, an orbiting telescope, they clocked the record-breaking super wind at about 20 million mph, or about 3 percent of the speed of light. This is nearly 10 times faster than astronomers had previously observed from a stellar-mass black hole.


[link to www.spacedaily.com]

wait, what...20 Million miles per hour!!!??
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Here is another video I had remembered seeing that kind of describes what your getting at OP, I think??? It describes more of a 3-D elliptical spiral through space as opposed to a flat 2-D model...

[link to www.youtube.com]

Kind of interesting...

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Re: So is all of this talk about Planet X / Nibiru / Comet Elenin et all..
I don't understand why you brought up Elenin that comet did a dive awhile back.
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I don't understand why you brought up Elenin that comet did a dive awhile back.
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I merely brought it up due to its connection with the whole planet x / nibiru conspiracy.
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elenin was a warning
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Re: So is all of this talk about Planet X / Nibiru / Comet Elenin et all..
Really just a cover-up for us heading towards a black hole?

Is this why Jupiter and Venus are 'lighting' up more?

Not all black holes are active, some are dormant but their gravitational mass is several million times greater than our own Sun.

I am curious as to what others think!

I just don't buy into all that other story, but considering all of the recent debris flying by and the whole 'ort cloud' it has me re-evaluating what information has been given to me.




 Quoting: Children of the Atom



Can someone please, please tell me what this thing on GoogleSky is...! IS THIS NIBIRU !!!????

[link to www.google.com]
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Heb 1:3 who being the shining splendor of His glory, and the express image of His essence, and upholding all things by the Word of His power, having made purification of our sins through Himself, He sat down on the right of the Majesty on high, Psa. 110:1

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