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THE CATHOLIC CHURCH CREATED ISLAM

 
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Benjamin Disraeli , Lord Balfour , Golda Meir , Eric Cantor , James Inhofe , Robert Hanssen , Mike Pence , Jacob Javits , Hy Larner , Sid Korshak , Wolf Blitzer and Rupert Murdoch created the zyonmist fifth column and the Sayanim Goon Squads of AIPAC .......... The Kagan Kahane Kedar KKK is an existential threat to the USA .... See ZIONISM IS THE ENEMY OF ISRAEL by ALAN HART and ILAN PAPPE .
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You cannot do anything against it Israel is bound to the mysteries of Mesopotamia, so the nation of Israel had to be born, the story is written in the stars, a long story lasted for thousand and thousand of years and it took the blood of millions and billions of people.
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Benjamin Disraeli , Lord Balfour , Golda Meir , Eric Cantor , James Inhofe , Robert Hanssen , Mike Pence , Jacob Javits , Hy Larner , Sid Korshak , Wolf Blitzer and Rupert Murdoch created the zyonmist fifth column and the Sayanim Goon Squads of AIPAC .......... The Kagan Kahane Kedar KKK is an existential threat to the USA .... See ZIONISM IS THE ENEMY OF ISRAEL by ALAN HART and ILAN PAPPE .
 Quoting: Vassels of LIKUD KKK 1486350


You cannot do anything against it Israel is bound to the mysteries of Mesopotamia, so the nation of Israel had to be born, the story is written in the stars, a long story lasted for thousand and thousand of years and it took the blood of millions and billions of people.
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yup....
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 Quoting: IM ZORRO DAMMIT


I discovered this a few years ago, and when I mentioned it, people looked at me like I had grown a third leg......now it's finally coming out and becoming more widely known....

Thanks for posting!!hf
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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wow, a post about religion that is actually true.

well done op.
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Most Evil Organization, The Catholic Church!

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Seal of the Society of Jesus (Jesuits). Note the poniard disguised as a cross and the sixteen daggers intermingled with the Sun's rays.


"It is amazing that an international organization of regimented priests, with allegiance to no nation, and a notorious history of political intrigue and corruption, is able - under the guise of religion - to freely associate, advise, influence and infiltrate the governments of the world. Knowing the history of the Jesuits; their methods, political morals and stated purpose, makes us aware of the danger we are in."
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huh
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And the next Pope is supposed to be the last Pope the antichrists right hand man who will exterminate Christians
That should make all the new age atheists real happy to hear
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I think another 5 years and 'belief in a god' will be labeled under a mental disorder. It's almost to that point now.
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Never.
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And the Big MAC!!!!!!
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Explains the overtake in Europe by Islam.

The Church is behind it.

(been saying it for years...)
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hiding
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of course they did ohyeah
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If this is true, why so many ''known''people switch Christianism for Islam, when they are backed up in a corner, like Mich. Jackson was.. he wanted to switch, why??

Also, many other people have already done it - and they say its better for them..

Furthermore, they say that evil things from the Vatican, cannot reach'em, if they quit the Vatican...


And in fact I think that's not the most important thing at hand, but ye, seems interresting - but Im doubtful..
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1. Both The Roman Catholic Church and Islam believe that only they are the one true church/religion.


2. The Roman Catholic Church and the Islam require mandatory fasting.


3. The Roman Catholic Church worships, prays to and gives titles of God to Mary. Islam highly esteems Mary and she is mentioned 34 times in the Qu'ran.

"Even the infidel Muhammed glorifies Mary in his Koran, saying, 'The angels shall say to Maryam, "Allah has
chosen thee; he has made thee exempt from all stain'". The Marian (Roman Catholic) Bible


4. The Roman Catholic Church and Islam base their salvation on a complicated system of works and deny salvation by faith alone. There is no assurance of salvation in either religion.


5. Both cults deny the Biblical view of the Atonement. The Roman Catholic Church doctrine dictates that one must go to Purgatory to have his sins purged, Jesus just paved the way. The Muslims believe their works will save them but will not know until Judgment Day. This is because there is no atonement for sin, and God's grace does not exist.


6. The Roman Catholic Church claims visions and apparitions in an effort to add false doctrine. Muhammad claimed to be purified as a child by angels. He claimed to receive revelations from Archangel Gabriel.


7. The Roman Catholic Church uses a rosary for their prayers, Islam uses prayer beads. The rosary/prayer beads are concepts taken from paganism.


8. The Pope is the vicar or substitute of Christ for the Roman Catholic Church. In Islam, Muhammad is called the last and final Messenger of God, the successor to Jesus.


9. The Roman Catholic Church and Islam have their own divorce system. The Roman Catholic Church grants
anullments and Islam allows a man to divorce his wife by telling her she is divorced.


10. Islam rejects the Trinity doctrine, the Deity of Christ, salvation by grace through faith and teaches
that Christians should be killed. However, the Roman Catholic Church accepts them and believes that they are offered salvation because of their faith in Abraham.


11. Both church organizations believe that leaving their church will result in eternal damnation.


12. The Roman Catholic Church and Islam share a hatred for the jewish people.


13. The Roman Catholic Church and the Islam base some of their doctrine on pagan traditions. For The Roman
Catholic Church the traditions of a goddess, rosary, pope, relics, purgatory, transubstantiation, praying to dead people, and idol worship are all based on paganism. The
Allah of Islam was actually a pagan god, and not even the major deity.


14. The Roman Catholic Church and Islam have added books to support false doctrine. The Roman Catholic Church has added the Apocrypha and Islam the Qu'ran.


15. The Roman Catholic Church priest system (including Popes) has a history of sexual abuse of women and children. Islam has a history of (including Muhammad) sexual abuse of women and children.


16. Both religions believe in using FORCE to spread their version of the one true god to the unbelievers.


17. Both religions believe in a union with the state or of using the police powers of the state to compel obedience to their tenets.



18 Both religions have a "holy" shrine in which the believers are taught to look to as their headquarters

e.g. Mecca and the Vatican.
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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I can't believe nobody has posted alberto rivera's story yet......

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Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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Getting closer.
They are actually all moonies, all presidents in last 60 years have acepted moon as the "savior" and return of jebus.


get a clue folks, moon known for cia mind control, jones temple, many more. All the same shit, moon is your master and all republicans bow to this moran.
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Who / What

created / invented religion?
that is the root source of religion(~).

answer that question, and you'll find out religion has nothing to do with our relationship with Our Creator(~).

peace
We get the powers over us that we've earned collectively. Humanity, as a whole, is self-interested, shallow, ignorant, violent and immoral; small wonder, therefore, that our leaders (secret or otherwise) reflect that. You want better leaders, become better people.

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The Evidence is very strong that the title of this thread is correct.

But thank GOD a Jewess poisoned the pedophile muhammad (Piss be upon him)and killed the sick bastard
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Did she really ?
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Islam is horrifying imo. Blood, fear, oppression of women. What a slaughter house.
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 Quoting: IM ZORRO DAMMIT


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And the next Pope is supposed to be the last Pope the antichrists right hand man who will exterminate Christians
That should make all the new age atheists real happy to hear
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I think another 5 years and 'belief in a god' will be labeled under a mental disorder. It's almost to that point now.
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LMAO THE MENTAL DISORDER ACTUALLY STEMS FORM ASSOCIATING THE PROBABILITY OF GOD TO BE IMPROBABLE.

"THE FOOL HAS SAID IN HIS HEART THERE IS NO GOD."
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Yeap
The Catholic Church Created Islam

And Caesar created the Catholic Church

The Empire never died.As a matter of fact it is bigger now than it ever was.
I know enough to know that I know nothing
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What the hell is a jesuit
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cruise


Well they own Georgetown University(American Politics), and all the major sports teams (Bread & Circuses)
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That woman who is a Democratic Fluke tool that Rush did the rant about goes to a Jesuit school. Jesuits were also a huge part of the Inquisition.

What do Mormons and Islam have in common? Multiple wives. Which equates control of women.

What do the Catholic church and Islam have in common? Control of women.

Women are under attack, or should I say remain under attack. Are men such weak creatures that the sight of a pretty face or long hair sends them into a lustful rampage? Or is it just hatred for women by some cults or churches?
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'Woman' in the Bible refers to a church - the Gloria Allred baloney is an 'in plain sight' (Ben)edict that those who refer to the RCC as the whore of Babylon who sits on many waters (admiralty law)will be prosecuted/persecuted - that entire thing is a hoax to enflame the nations' women who are all regarded as prostitues & sluts (lust anagram) by the Gay men who run this world. Look at the compass & square - do you the 'missionary position'? The 'G' is the Hebrew letter 'Gimel' - COMMERCE - this is why they demand a marriage 'license' so you can do 'business' legally.Idol1
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The Pope Claims to be God on Earth



Throughout the centuries of Rome's existence, the popes have regularly claimed to be divine. As the supposed successor of Peter, the Pope claims infallibility, the position of God on Earth, and ability to judge and excommunicate angels.

A king kissing the Pope's foot.
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The Catholic Council of Trent in 1545 declared this:
We define that the Holy Apostolic See and the Roman Pontiff hold primacy over the whole world.i

In the same century, Cardinal Robert Bellarmine stated this:
All names which in the Scriptures are applied to Christ, by virtue of which it is established that he is over the church, all the same names are applied to the Pope.ii

In 1895 an article from the Catholic National said this:
The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, but he is Jesus Christ, Himself, hidden under the veil of flesh.iii

This belief has so assimilated into society's thinking that it is believed by many beyond Catholic circles. According to TIME, Pope John Paul II's assassination attempt prompted a young Jewish man to say, "shooting the Pope—It's like shooting God."iv
Further Quotes from Vatican Documents show the Papacy's belief in Papal Infallibility:

He [the Pope] can pronounce sentences and judgments in contradiction to the rights of nations, to the law of God and man...He can free himself from the commands of the apostles, he being their superior, and from the rules of the Old Testament...The Pope has power to change times, to abrogate laws, and to dispense with all things, even the precepts of Christ.v

In 1512 Christopher Marcellus said this to Pope Julius II:
Take care that we lose not that salvation, that life and breath which thou hast given us, for thou art our shepherd, thou art our physician, thou art our governor, thou art our husbandman, thou art finally another God on earth (emphasis added).vi

The Gloss of Extravagantes of Pope John XXII says this:
To believe that our Lord God the Popehas not the power to decree as he is decreed, is to be deemed heretical (emphasis added).vii

And speaking about the same document, Father A. Pereira said this:
It is quite certain that Popes have never disapproved or rejected this title "Lord God the Pope" for the passage in the gloss referred to appears in the edition of the Canon Law published in Rome by Gregory XIII.viii

Papal documents also say this:
Those whom the Pope of Rome doth separate, it is not a man that separates them but God. For the Pope holdeth place on earth, not simply of a man but of the true God....dissolves, not by human but rather by divine authority....I am in all and above all, so that God Himself and I, the vicar of God, hath both one consistory, and I am able to do almost all that God can do...wherefore, if those things that I do be said not to be done of man, but of God, what do you make of me but God? Again, if prelates of the Church be called of Constantine for gods, I then being above all prelates, seem by this reason to be above all gods (emphasis added).ix


The Pope takes the place of Jesus Christ on earth...by divine right the Pope has supreme and full power in faith, in morals over each and every pastor and his flock. He is the true vicar, the head of the entire church, the father and teacher of all Christians. He is the infallible ruler, the founder of dogmas, the author of and the judge of councils; the universal ruler of truth, the arbiter of the world, the supreme judge of heaven and earth, the judge of all, being judged by no one, God himself on earth (emphasis added).x

The pope is of so great dignity and so exalted that he is not a mere man, but as it were God, and the vicar of God...The Pope alone is called most holy...Hence the Pope is crowned with a triple crown, as king of heaven and of earth and of hell. Moreover the superiority and the power of the Roman Pontiff by no means pertains only to heavenly things, but also earthly things, and to things under the earth, and even over the angels, whom he his greater than. So that if it were possible that the angels might err in the faith, or might think contrary to the faith,they could be judged and excommunicated by the Pope...the Pope is as it were God on earth, sole sovereign of the faithful of Christ, chief of kings, having plenitude of power (emphasis added).xi

Words from the Popes themselves:

In 1302 Pope Boniface said this in a letter to the Catholic Church:
Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff.xii

Pope Pius V said this:
The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in Heaven and earth.xiii

Pope Pius XI said this about himself:
PIUS XI, Pontifex Maximus.xiv

Pope Leo XIII said this about the role of the Pope:
We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty.xv

Many Compare the Pope with Jesus

The Papacy is not the only source of papal infallibility doctrine. Many Catholics and others use the titles of Christ to describe the Pope, as seen in the video below. This video is featured in the lecture That All May Be One by Professor Walter Veith. Purchase the DVD from the Amazing Discoveries™ webstore or view the lecture on Amazing Discoveries™ TV.



The Doctrine of Papal Infallibility is UnBiblical

The Bible does not support the belief of papal infallibility. It declares that "all of sinned and come short of the glory of God" (Roman 3:23). This includes the Pope. These boasts of the Papal State fulfill the Bible's prediction of what the Antichrist power would do:
And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws...(Daniel 7:25).

And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven (Revelation 13:5-6).



i. The Most Holy Councils Volume XIII, Column 1167.
ii. Robert Bellarmine, On the Authority of Councils Volume 2: 266.
iii. Catholic National (July 1895).
iv. George J. Church et. al, "Hands of Terrorism," TIME (May 25, 1981).
v. Decretal de Translat. Episcop. Cap.
vi. Christopher Marcellus addressing Pope Julius II, in Fifth Lateran Council, Session IV (1512), Council Edition. Colm. Agrip. 1618, (J.D. Mansi, ed., Sacrorum Conciliorum Vol. 32, col. 761). Also quoted in Labbe and Cossart, History of the Councils Volume XIV, Column 109.
vii. The Gloss of Extravagantes of Pope John XXII, Cum. Inter, title 14, chapter 4, "Ad Callem Sexti Decretalium", Column 140 (Paris, 1685). In an Antwerp edition of the Extravagantes, the words, Dominum Deum Nostrum Papam ("Our Lord God the Pope") can be found in column 153.
viii. Statement from Fr. A. Pereira.
ix. Decretales Domini Gregori IX Translatione Episcoporum, ("On the Transference of Bishops"), title 7, chapter 3; Corpus Juris Canonice (2nd Leipzig ed., 1881), Column 99; (Paris, 1612).
x. Quoted in the New York Catechism.
xi. Lucius Ferraris, "Concerning the extent of Papal dignity, authority, or dominion and infallibility," Prompta Bibliotheca Canonica, Juridica, Moralis, Theologica, Ascetica, Polemica, Rubristica, Historica Volume V (Paris: J. P. Migne, 1858).
xii. Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam (Rome: 1302).
xiii. Pope Pius V, quoted in Barclay, Cities Petrus Bertanous Chapter XXVII: 218.
xiv. Pope Pius XI, Mortalium Animos—The Promotion of True Religious Unity (Rome: 1928).
xv. Pope Leo XIII, Praeclara Gratulationis Publicae—The Reunion of Christendom (Rome: 1894).
Disclaimer: The contents of this article and website are not intended to accuse individuals. There are many priests and faithful believers in Roman Catholicism who serve God to the best of their ability and are seen by God as His children. The information contained herein is directed only towards the Roman Catholic religio-political system that has reigned in varying degrees of power for nearly two millennia. Under the influence of its successive popes, bishops, and cardinals, this system has established an increasing number of doctrines and statements that clearly go against Scripture.

It is our sincere desire to lay the clear Word of God before you, the truth-seeking reader, so you may decide for yourself what is truth and what is error. If you find herein anything contrary to the Word of God, you need not accept it. But if you desire to seek for Truth as for hidden treasure, and find herein something of that quality, we encourage you to make all haste to accept that Truth which is revealed to you by the Holy Spirit.



















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Wow this was actually pinned...

The problem is none of the people are a experts of theology, so if its sounds good they run with it like any conspiracy theory.

%1 we have to assume muhammad actually existed for this theory to be true.

%2 assume that islam did not succeed from pagan religions that already existed related to the kabba

%3 assume that like christianity, islam did not exist as a religion in other forms prior to its dominance for the middle east.

I do not doubt that the vatican hides records in its vaults that hide secrets of the relationship between the roman catholic church and islam, but these relations are subjected to the mere shady obscurity of how recorded is told in itself.

Like many who suggest and theorize that the crusades never did occur, which could in itself reveal a totally different relationship between the two religions.

Another assumption we make is that Christianity in itself is pure, or ever was. There in fact could have been many secret dealings and actions that we would never think that religion would partake it. Christianity from its beginning was a cesspool of pagan practice, and far from what it is today. If you consider it more organized today, and reject the accusations made against the church.

I do not reject what this cardinal promotes as truth, but I dont think we are considering other facts that as well must be held in cogitation. History itself is a rubix cube of conflicting interest, stories told by those who must alter your understanding of their existence in order to exist peacefully themselves.

Keep all the facts in mind before jumping to conclusion, and take all facts into consideration not daring to come to conclusion where there is much to be equated. As i also find it interesting that the Orthodox Church isn't mentioned in this theory.
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Wow this was actually pinned...

The problem is none of the people are a experts of theology, so if its sounds good they run with it like any conspiracy theory.

%1 we have to assume muhammad actually existed for this theory to be true.

%2 assume that islam did not succeed from pagan religions that already existed related to the kabba

%3 assume that like christianity, islam did not exist as a religion in other forms prior to its dominance for the middle east.

I do not doubt that the vatican hides records in its vaults that hide secrets of the relationship between the roman catholic church and islam, but these relations are subjected to the mere shady obscurity of how recorded is told in itself.

Like many who suggest and theorize that the crusades never did occur, which could in itself reveal a totally different relationship between the two religions.

Another assumption we make is that Christianity in itself is pure, or ever was. There in fact could have been many secret dealings and actions that we would never think that religion would partake it. Christianity from its beginning was a cesspool of pagan practice, and far from what it is today. If you consider it more organized today, and reject the accusations made against the church.

I do not reject what this cardinal promotes as truth, but I dont think we are considering other facts that as well must be held in cogitation. History itself is a rubix cube of conflicting interest, stories told by those who must alter your understanding of their existence in order to exist peacefully themselves.

Keep all the facts in mind before jumping to conclusion, and take all facts into consideration not daring to come to conclusion where there is much to be equated. As i also find it interesting that the Orthodox Church isn't mentioned in this theory.
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So I gather from your comment you didn't watch the lecture or shut it off after 10 minutes.....good for you
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oes this make the palestinian people a made up peoples like the newster said ?

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