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I'm SICK of the RH Negative thread SLANDER.

 
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Ladies (who don't take hormonal birth control) - is your cycle off?
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What??? Wrong thread! baffle

That was going to the time speeding up thread. Ahem. Seems I just can't stay out of this one!!!
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so you gotta little 'pseudoscience' in you as well..come on share your uniqueness (beats you being an asshole for 12 pages)LOL
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Nah, I'd rather not share my uniqueness so that I can be accepted into a clique that defines itself as being the opposite of me and by the uniqueness shared by all the members.

I'm unique, you're unique, my neighbours are unique, crazy-psycho-kitten-killer-down-the-street is unique. There no such things as "normals" who "all think this way".
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Why does this remind me of Groucho Marx "I wouldn't belong to any club that would have me for a member."?
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so you gotta little 'pseudoscience' in you as well..come on share your uniqueness (beats you being an asshole for 12 pages)LOL
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Nah, I'd rather not share my uniqueness so that I can be accepted into a clique that defines itself as being the opposite of me and by the uniqueness shared by all the members.

I'm unique, you're unique, my neighbours are unique, crazy-psycho-kitten-killer-down-the-street is unique. There no such things as "normals" who "all think this way".
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Why does this remind me of Groucho Marx "I wouldn't belong to any club that would have me for a member."?
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The physical traits specified (extra rib, auto-immune issues, etc) are all Rh negative specific, which I will concur (to which Jessica Farrell has done the research to prove that), however, the electrical interference etc (and the subjective terms, like 'love of space') are not Rh negative unique, and 'love of space' is a personality trait, which is down to experience.

My issue isn't with the statistics, but the misleading way in which the non-unique ones are presented as if being Rh negative unique. The list is a near verbatim copy-paste of the one I heard back in 2010, nearly two years ago, and it still hasn't been largely tested, just assumed as true.

If it was to be modified, I would remove the subjective terminology ('love of space' etc), keep the proven statistics (extra rib, auto-immune issues), and note the other non-unique traits are non-unique to the bloodtype so it's clear to everybody.
 Quoting: Joshua Flynn 12610706


As i tend to agree (removing the things that are bloodtype exclusive so that we had a clear view of what exactly is rh negative exclusive) My main concern is my health at this point. I mean the fun facts are what they are, but in no danger of my life or health. The other things i have experienced are very important. These things are also not 'pregnancy' exclusive for me either.
 Quoting: Aiyannanaki


Yes, that is what I am looking for, RH- exclusive traits based on medical studies, such as the claim that certain supplements do not work for (most? %?) RH- people and listing those specific supplements.

I know some supplements do not work for me, but my diet is varied and healthy. So, what does this mean? The supplements are not required by my body, so are they are simply eliminated? If my diet was poor, would the supplements then work?

I suppose if we start our own RH- studies here on GLP and ask the right questions, we could at least get percentages based on the people here. Or, would this elicit yet more slander?

Just a thought.
 Quoting: RedlicoriceRedux


I agree with you. 100%. Do you do well on medications? I cannot even get asprin to work. Nothing effects me. Its like it just passes through.. very frustrating. We should seriously put something together..or attempt to. I dont care if they are theories as long as they have a decent explaination and can be tested for myself. Also would like to enquire the theories i've read about negatives being 'copper' based or having a higher copper ratio. These are just theories, but the basic's behind it are quite interesting..
Certain minerals attach to the copper and basically it doesn't get absorbed. Much like the other issues about Iron not being absorbed.
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Medications normally make me more ill, so I end up not taking them. Or, if I absolutely must take them, I will take breaks inbetween bouts of taking it and try again. This approach works sometimes. It's almost like my body is fighting the medication, or building up an immunity, I dunno, so when I restart I will have no or lesser side effects. However, I am pretty much healthy so thankfully I don't have to take alot of meds.

I have been searching the internet for blood composition/mineral deficiency/mineral charts specifically detailing blood type with what might be considered 'normal' mineral concentrations, but have found none. I too want an answer to the copper and zinc ratio and comparison between RH- and RH+ blood.

I would be grateful if everyone could search as well. We might get lucky on the Blood Transfusion websites, from the souces at the bottom.

I love this stuff.
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My Experience of being RH negative

Male
42yo
5'11"
165lbs
Hair: Blk
Eyes: Dk. Brn
I.Q. 140
Type: A neg

I was born with blonde hair which turned red then went brown then went black. Now it's half gray. My eyes have always been dark brown. The whole time I was growing up I felt that I didn't belong anywhere. I would go places and do things and I always felt that I was somehow not a part of what was happening. After a time I realized that I was the only one who was aware of that feeling and that no one else regarded me as being an "outsider" or anything of the kind. To this day, the feeling persists.

In my teen years I had a lot of experiences where I thought I was psychic. As the years passed, I realized that I don't think I am actually psychic per se, more like, I notice the tiniest details about things. Facial expressions, sounds etc. I can easily tell when people are covering up their real feelings. I know what their real feelings are and the extent to which they are covering them up and the effort they put into it. When people lie, I know. It's almost comical. However, I don't think it's my being psychic, it's just that I notice every little thing about everything.

As an adult, I am not physically that strong. What I mean is, exercise is hard for me, I can't do much when it comes to endurance sports - I'm generally weaker than other people my age unless I am emotionally distraught, then it's a whole different story. When I get upset, angry, frustrated or otherwise feel emotionally "charged", I am strong as all hell. I can pull doors off their hinges, I can push people around twice my size. I know, it sounds like BS. (Go ahead and fly those BS flags) I'm telling you though, it's true. I get so strong when I'm upset, it's like everything weighs 1kg. If someone were to threaten me for example, if I were able to grab them, I could easily break their arms / legs whatever. I'm not saying I WANT to do those things or be that way, I'm saying I AM that way.

Some medications work on me some don't. Aspirin works very well, Ibuprofen does not work on me at all. It doesn't matter how much I take, they may as well be Skittles. I am fantastically sensitive to cigarette smoke, pollution, gas smells, car exhaust etc. I smell things no one else seems to be smelling and they can make me feel really horrible sometimes. My heart races, I get dry mouth - I mean, strong reactions to chemicals in the air. The sun burns me right away despite my darker complexion.

Foods I react oddly to:

You know that fake butter they sell with the microwave popcorn? O M G, that stuff is like crystal meth to me. If I put that "butter" on popcorn I feel like I'm going to crawl right out of my skin.

Garlic? No problem. Meat? No problem (though I don't eat much meat). Put the two together? SICK AS HELL. Makes no sense at all. I'm talking, vomiting a whole salad bar.

Apples make me hungry, but I think they make everyone hungry because they clean you out, right?

Any food with a lot of chemical crap in it makes me feel horrible. I feel dirty inside, like someone just poured dirty rainwater into my veins. Because of this I eat a lot of "raw" foods and feel great.

Alcohol is fine in very, very small amounts. I mean, 1 can of beer is fun. 2 cans is pushing it, 3 cans is heart- skipping-beats toxic. I can go from drunk, to hungover to sober and fine again in 4 hours.
Sexually I am insatiable. I cannot get enough of my wife, who is sick to death of me by now I'm sure...poor thing. I'm guessing that's normal too, but I can do it 3~5 times a day and I'm 42. Something's either very wrong with me or very right with me. :)

I never, never, never, never N E V E R take antibiotics because I don't need any fucking antibiotics because I kick ASS on bad bacteria. I've had full-blown infections just fade away in 3 days. (Here come the BS flags! Count them, 1,2,3.) So I can get infections but once my immunity kicks in, no more infection.

There's a lot more. When I was a kid I was visited in my room by some kind of being. (1,2,3 BS flags,) here, let me help you::bsflag:bsflagbsflag

It scared the holy mother of fuck out of me. It approached me, reached into my chest with its hand, and disappeared. I was pissing myself to sleep at night, afraid that it would come back. Now I know what it was. It was "them". I know where they are.

Do you know what I'm talking about?

Many of you are convinced I'm nuts now....so much the better, I guess. If these things hadn't happened to me, I suppose I wouldn't believe them either.
 Quoting: ATOM 10863890


DUDE!!!!!! no b.s flag here. I highlighted everything that is exactly like me..exactly like me. Are you sure your not me? My being didn't touch my chest..It touched between my eyes. I am not psychic but i have had some 'psychic' episodes in dreams and random visions that hit me at weird random times. Im also very intuitive and can feel people and their intentions and emotions. I see a cut, I feel the cut to. Some people have said i made it feel better while sitting close to the wound. I also am VERY strong for a tiny female. In a relaxed state -mentality- I am normal for my physical existance. But upon anger or high stress i have plowed through a door and took the door as well. I also beat up a man trying to place harm on me one evening. Although he tried to restain me, and physically hurt me..I knew by contact what he was going to do to me, unless I did something to get away. I also have a very high sex drive..only for certain people or certain connections with someone. -these are very specific-

Also, My hearing is super super great. And the smell thing..I get sick as well to things that will be outside around my house. No one smells what i do. Im so sensitive that it will make me physically ill.
 Quoting: Aiyannanaki


Me too for almost all above...esp. the smelling thing. I was the first one to smell burning plastic at work when nobody else could. Then the fire alarm went off.

What makes me physically ill are the chemicals they put in food, esp. those little creamers in restaurants.

My sex drive is very high too, but you are right, only for the right person. Otherwise, I feel nothing.
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Let me be clear: I am agreeing with the person with this I.D.#

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That's me! So, if you disagree with the half-breed theory, then how do you explain that the traits designated Rh- occur in ALL blood groups?
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Once again, that might have come out unclear. Let me re-phrase:

* Do you believe that these traits are limited to Rh-?
* Do you believe that they are shared by all Rh-?
* Do you believe that they are more common in Rh-?
* Do you have solid, verifiable evidence, anecdotal evidence, or simply faith fueling your beliefs?

(Believe it or not, that's me trying to be tactful! tomato)
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That was a very good attempt. tounge

We can't answer any of those questions, right now we can only compare traits among RH- and hopefully compare these traits among the RH+ too, here on GLP and get a handle on this.

It seems to me that the RH+ should contribute to our quest, to help us find answers.
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To the poster who asked about freckels. Yes, I had freckles when I was a child. They are all gone now.
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Science is dead, money killed it.

Smearing any attempt to assemble patterns, which is all Aiy is doing, by labeling it "psuedoscience" is part and parcel to the whole reason she started this thread.



Personally, the iron/copper bit is what most intrigues me. The varying conductivity of each could have massive bioelectrical implications.
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Wow, will the wonder never end?
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Bumping for later fun. Gotta go to stupid work and I am only on page 6. Eh, who am I kidding? I love my job. :) The point remains, though ...

/bump
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Let me be clear: I am agreeing with the person with this I.D.#

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That's me! So, if you disagree with the half-breed theory, then how do you explain that the traits designated Rh- occur in ALL blood groups?
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Once again, that might have come out unclear. Let me re-phrase:

* Do you believe that these traits are limited to Rh-?
* Do you believe that they are shared by all Rh-?
* Do you believe that they are more common in Rh-?
* Do you have solid, verifiable evidence, anecdotal evidence, or simply faith fueling your beliefs?

(Believe it or not, that's me trying to be tactful! tomato)
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That was a very good attempt. tounge

We can't answer any of those questions, right now we can only compare traits among RH- and hopefully compare these traits among the RH+ too, here on GLP and get a handle on this.

It seems to me that the RH+ should contribute to our quest, to help us find answers.
 Quoting: RedlicoriceRedux


The problem I see with asking around GLP is that you are going to get a biased sample. Like, if you ask about the fun facts list (really just subjective labels that people want to have anyway), a much larger proportion of the people on here will answer yes, due to the nature of the site.

Also, mainly the Rh- crusaders and the Rh+ haters will answer, skewing the results more.

The scientific facts list would be problematic too, like how does someone answer how efficiently they process CO2 without pulmonary function tests? Separate autoimmune conditions and the HLA-B27 marker, too, because they are two very different things. It's like lumping all cancer in with the breast cancer gene. And, again, it will be biased, as it will only be the ones tested for the marker that will answer and testing is quite rare.

Most people don't even know their ABO blood type.
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Let me start of by reposting this:

Pseudoscience is often characterized by the use of vague, exaggerated or unprovable claims, an over-reliance on confirmation rather than rigorous attempts at refutation, a lack of openness to evaluation by other experts, and a general absence of systematic processes to rationally develop theories.
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Please keep in mind that a GLP survey isn't science. It's a first step.

See, look, it's already happening:


You're a so called half breed? You may be both + and - , and your parent may both be + - . In this case chances are you get + and theres like a 25 percent chance for you to have - offspring. No expert so correct me if i'm wrong.
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<=== response to my answers to the questions and the fact that both my parents are Rh+ and I have no known Rh disease in my family. Guidelines have to be set, otherwise it is way too easy to discount any positives who self-identify with these traits by saying, "Oh, well, they're clearly half-breeds and not really positive at all!!" It's also easy to call all the negatives who don't self-identify with those traits by calling them liars, shills, and trolls. Or not even calling them names, but discounting their experiences. Yes, it is the internet and every single response could be a lie. That's a fact. But we'd have to treat every response as valid.


BUT, an Rh positive will be better defended from the parasites listed (on the same page) and also have better over all stamina for running, swimming etc. (endurance type stuff) Let me be clear: An Rh positive will completely destroy me in a test of stamina and endurance because my blood cells lack the ion pump (the Rh protein) so I get tired quickly. However, this lack of a protein also has other advantages. For example, adrenalin which uptakes into the blood cell to provide bursts of speed and strength HAS NO BARRIER with Rh negatives, and I'M TELLING YOU I'm stronger than you with or without the "fight or flight" response by virtue of the simple fact that my blood has no barrier whatsoever to the uptake of adrenalin, or anything else for that matter.

BUT, in everyday tests of strength, YOU will be WAY stronger than me, AND last longer than me because your cells regulate everything far more efficiently than mine.

 Quoting: ATOM 10863890


Then there's the leaps of logic like that above. ALL Rh- are stronger than Rh+, but only in short bursts. The common experience of fight or flight is different in Rh-. Soooo, speed and endurance have nothing to do with physical fitness, it has to do with this one protein that is or isn't present on your blood cells. I'm not picking on you, ATOM, but this is just an example of potential researcher bias. If you believe these differences exist, you will see them everywhere.
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Well, for a start, I think copying the OP's list and highlighting traits is a good idea. After all, it's all we have. I've added a few more traits/experiences.

Here are the scientific FACTS about” Rhesus Negative” blood groups:

Most have stronger Immune systems.
• Most have Autoimmune Conditions and the HLA-B27 genetic marker. (I dunno)
Most have fair skin and light eyed, in response to having Melanin imbalances and Vit. D Deficiencies
• Most process CO2 more efficiently (I dunno)
Most tend to have Iron/Copper imbalances
• Missing the RhD protein that acts as a barrier on the red blood cells. (I dunno)
• Pregnancy issues and complications with the clashing of blood type within the fetus. (I dunno, hubby O-)

NEW:
. Birth control pill issues; ineffective, or causing thrombosis
. fast healing time for wounds
. medications/supplements can be ineffective; sensitive to side effects
. overly emotionally sensitive, prone to mild depression
. allergic to preservatives in food
. allergic reactions are immediate

. healthy sex drive under ideal circumstances
. hormonal imbalances
. freckles at some point in life
. superior sense of smell
. superior sense of hearing


Now given that negatives are missing this “ RhD protein” around their red blood cells. Could this be that the protein acts as a barrier to protect the person from the effects of the environment? Could this be why most negatives have psychic abilities there is not a protein barrier, so could things we don’t yet understand channel into us giving us these strange abilities? As you can see most RH NEGS are almost seemingly “allergic” to the environment we are in- And by that I mean the SUN. It’s like we don’t work properly in this environment.. Can’t bare children without medical intervention, and all the other things I mentioned above we either completely lack it or we are overly producing defenses to it.

Here are a few “fun” facts shared by many within the Rhesus negative groups (I can say for MYSELF alone that these are FACTS of negatives reality But I don’t want to share my “weirdness” at this moment):

• A feeling of not belonging
• Truth seekers
• Sense of a "Mission" in life
• Empathy & Compassion for Mankind
• An extra rib or vertebra.
• Higher than average IQ
• ESP Ability
• Love of Space & Science
• More sensitive vision & other senses.
• Increased of psychic/intuitive abilities

• Cannot be cloned (I dunno)
• Lower body temperature
• Higher blood pressure (some say lower either way one extreme to another never quite right)
• Predominantly blue, green, or Hazel eyes
• Red or reddish tint to hair color
• Increased sensitivity to heat & sunlight
• Unexplained Scares
• Piercing Eyes
• Tend to be Healers
• Empathetic Illnesses
• Ability to disrupt electrical devices
• Prone to Alien Abductions
• Experience unexplained phenomenon
• Physic Dreams and/or Ability


NEW
. crave certain foods, i.e. chocolate
. athletic stamina at some point in life
. very good eye/hand coordination
. B12 deficiencies, now and again

. Many Deja vu experiences

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Uncle Bob?!?!
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Ok, great start. Perhaps we should separate them into verifiable, measurable traits and subjective traits next. Like, physical characteristics (ie hair colour) and psychological characteristics (ie higher IQ) and subjective experiences (ie psychic experiences). I would do it right now, but I have to get out for my walk.
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This goes for A LOT we have been taught, not just everything about anything except blood type..
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I apply to even what I've been taught. No theory too absurd so long as it fits the facts.

I believe Joshua covered the whole "fact" vs "not fact" very nicely. Are they really FACTS? Have there been actual studies that are publicly available?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946


Keep calm dude. You're going at this with aggression (even if you don't think it is, it's giving that impression), you only need to reason, and Aiyanna understands the point. There's already been some effort on constructing a better supported list (although I seem to have been left holding it so to speak).

I've addressed the other points you've brought up. Calm; the correct response to any division is not beratement or aggression, but reconciliation.

Demonstrate, don't lecture. Here's an Rh positive, they are like you, we're not so different.
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. Many Deja vu experiences
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Funny you should mention that...

Although only one other poster is going to get the joke.
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Science is dead, money killed it.

Smearing any attempt to assemble patterns, which is all Aiy is doing, by labeling it "psuedoscience" is part and parcel to the whole reason she started this thread.



Personally, the iron/copper bit is what most intrigues me. The varying conductivity of each could have massive bioelectrical implications.
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You get me, I feel it.
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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And sorry you have hung around the thread for almost 20 pages,
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But this is why I'm on GLP... to discuss stuff and get the ol' noggin' going. All the better if no one agrees with me.
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Hey me too ! we agree on something!..hehe no way! :)
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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Ladies (who don't take hormonal birth control) - is your cycle off?
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What??? Wrong thread! baffle

That was going to the time speeding up thread. Ahem. Seems I just can't stay out of this one!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946


Omg you love me..you really do!


Obamas secret th
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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As i tend to agree (removing the things that are bloodtype exclusive so that we had a clear view of what exactly is rh negative exclusive) My main concern is my health at this point. I mean the fun facts are what they are, but in no danger of my life or health. The other things i have experienced are very important. These things are also not 'pregnancy' exclusive for me either.
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Yes, that is what I am looking for, RH- exclusive traits based on medical studies, such as the claim that certain supplements do not work for (most? %?) RH- people and listing those specific supplements.

I know some supplements do not work for me, but my diet is varied and healthy. So, what does this mean? The supplements are not required by my body, so are they are simply eliminated? If my diet was poor, would the supplements then work?

I suppose if we start our own RH- studies here on GLP and ask the right questions, we could at least get percentages based on the people here. Or, would this elicit yet more slander?

Just a thought.
 Quoting: RedlicoriceRedux


I agree with you. 100%. Do you do well on medications? I cannot even get asprin to work. Nothing effects me. Its like it just passes through.. very frustrating. We should seriously put something together..or attempt to. I dont care if they are theories as long as they have a decent explaination and can be tested for myself. Also would like to enquire the theories i've read about negatives being 'copper' based or having a higher copper ratio. These are just theories, but the basic's behind it are quite interesting..
Certain minerals attach to the copper and basically it doesn't get absorbed. Much like the other issues about Iron not being absorbed.
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Medications normally make me more ill, so I end up not taking them. Or, if I absolutely must take them, I will take breaks inbetween bouts of taking it and try again. This approach works sometimes. It's almost like my body is fighting the medication, or building up an immunity, I dunno, so when I restart I will have no or lesser side effects. However, I am pretty much healthy so thankfully I don't have to take alot of meds.

I have been searching the internet for blood composition/mineral deficiency/mineral charts specifically detailing blood type with what might be considered 'normal' mineral concentrations, but have found none. I too want an answer to the copper and zinc ratio and comparison between RH- and RH+ blood.

I would be grateful if everyone could search as well. We might get lucky on the Blood Transfusion websites, from the souces at the bottom.

I love this stuff.
 Quoting: RedlicoriceRedux


I'm still digging for that as well. I Have been to the doctor many times in my life, and was always malnutritioned when considering the 'norm' for levels of certain nutrients. I know I'm not the only one. And the Iron turned me so sick I thought i was gonna die, ended up in the hospital. So why is there nothing on this subject matter..We obviously have an adversation in the way our bloodtype carried and absorb
s many nutrients..so were is this info? Is this lacking study as well??? this not absorbing certain nutrients is the one thing we know for sure is backed and in need.
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When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

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You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
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Well, for a start, I think copying the OP's list and highlighting traits is a good idea. After all, it's all we have. I've added a few more traits/experiences.

Here are the scientific FACTS about” Rhesus Negative” blood groups:

Most have stronger Immune systems.
• Most have Autoimmune Conditions and the HLA-B27 genetic marker. (I dunno)
Most have fair skin and light eyed, in response to having Melanin imbalances and Vit. D Deficiencies
• Most process CO2 more efficiently (I dunno)
Most tend to have Iron/Copper imbalances
• Missing the RhD protein that acts as a barrier on the red blood cells. (I dunno)
• Pregnancy issues and complications with the clashing of blood type within the fetus. (I dunno, hubby O-)

NEW:
. Birth control pill issues; ineffective, or causing thrombosis
. fast healing time for wounds
. medications/supplements can be ineffective; sensitive to side effects
. overly emotionally sensitive, prone to mild depression
. allergic to preservatives in food
. allergic reactions are immediate

. healthy sex drive under ideal circumstances
. hormonal imbalances
. freckles at some point in life
. superior sense of smell
. superior sense of hearing


Now given that negatives are missing this “ RhD protein” around their red blood cells. Could this be that the protein acts as a barrier to protect the person from the effects of the environment? Could this be why most negatives have psychic abilities there is not a protein barrier, so could things we don’t yet understand channel into us giving us these strange abilities? As you can see most RH NEGS are almost seemingly “allergic” to the environment we are in- And by that I mean the SUN. It’s like we don’t work properly in this environment.. Can’t bare children without medical intervention, and all the other things I mentioned above we either completely lack it or we are overly producing defenses to it.

Here are a few “fun” facts shared by many within the Rhesus negative groups (I can say for MYSELF alone that these are FACTS of negatives reality But I don’t want to share my “weirdness” at this moment):

• A feeling of not belonging
• Truth seekers
• Sense of a "Mission" in life
• Empathy & Compassion for Mankind
• An extra rib or vertebra.
• Higher than average IQ
• ESP Ability
• Love of Space & Science
• More sensitive vision & other senses.
• Increased of psychic/intuitive abilities

• Cannot be cloned (I dunno)
• Lower body temperature
• Higher blood pressure (some say lower either way one extreme to another never quite right)
• Predominantly blue, green, or Hazel eyes
• Red or reddish tint to hair color
• Increased sensitivity to heat & sunlight
• Unexplained Scares
• Piercing Eyes
• Tend to be Healers
• Empathetic Illnesses
• Ability to disrupt electrical devices
• Prone to Alien Abductions
• Experience unexplained phenomenon
• Physic Dreams and/or Ability


NEW
. crave certain foods, i.e. chocolate
. athletic stamina at some point in life
. very good eye/hand coordination
. B12 deficiencies, now and again

. Many Deja vu experiences
 Quoting: RedlicoriceRedux


I can second everything on you're list to a T. I'd like to add to mine though

* Anger and stress control my adrenalin

Also not sure about the cloning..Not gonna attempt to try that one !

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Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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Ok, great start. Perhaps we should separate them into verifiable, measurable traits and subjective traits next. Like, physical characteristics (ie hair colour) and psychological characteristics (ie higher IQ) and subjective experiences (ie psychic experiences). I would do it right now, but I have to get out for my walk.
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I believe this is the best idea! and along the way we should try to find the best reliable source or link to back it up, or attempt to give a good standing on why this is possible. Off to a great start!
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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Iron poisoning in blood is quite possible:
[link to www.healthhype.com]

I'm troubled by doctors (or GPs) because I find my own self-diagnosis to be far more accurate. Often, the doctors look stumped when I explain specific symptoms and then reason why it can't be one common illness or another. Either they run tests that confirm exactly what I was saying, or they just go, 'I don't know'. I'm troubled that these are supposed to be the medical experts.
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Iron poisoning in blood is quite possible:
[link to www.healthhype.com]

I'm troubled by doctors (or GPs) because I find my own self-diagnosis to be far more accurate. Often, the doctors look stumped when I explain specific symptoms and then reason why it can't be one common illness or another. Either they run tests that confirm exactly what I was saying, or they just go, 'I don't know'. I'm troubled that these are supposed to be the medical experts.
 Quoting: Joshua Flynn 12678181


very good point, and i've experienced the same..I work in the medical field (hemodialysis). But it seems that my experiences with the doctor's diagnosis or advice seems to hurt me further or not help at all. I'm trying currently to abtain a test to see if i have the HLA-B27 genetic marker. I have reasons to believe my grandmother was suffering from A.S. (she isn't around anymore and i was young) Not only is the doctor throwing rock's, but he keeps blaming to insurance policy. *sigh*
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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My Experience of being RH negative

Male
42yo
5'11"
165lbs
Hair: Blk
Eyes: Dk. Brn
I.Q. 140
Type: A neg

I was born with blonde hair which turned red then went brown then went black. Now it's half gray. My eyes have always been dark brown. The whole time I was growing up I felt that I didn't belong anywhere. I would go places and do things and I always felt that I was somehow not a part of what was happening. After a time I realized that I was the only one who was aware of that feeling and that no one else regarded me as being an "outsider" or anything of the kind. To this day, the feeling persists.

In my teen years I had a lot of experiences where I thought I was psychic. As the years passed, I realized that I don't think I am actually psychic per se, more like, I notice the tiniest details about things. Facial expressions, sounds etc. I can easily tell when people are covering up their real feelings. I know what their real feelings are and the extent to which they are covering them up and the effort they put into it. When people lie, I know. It's almost comical. However, I don't think it's my being psychic, it's just that I notice every little thing about everything.

As an adult, I am not physically that strong. What I mean is, exercise is hard for me, I can't do much when it comes to endurance sports - I'm generally weaker than other people my age unless I am emotionally distraught, then it's a whole different story. When I get upset, angry, frustrated or otherwise feel emotionally "charged", I am strong as all hell. I can pull doors off their hinges, I can push people around twice my size. I know, it sounds like BS. (Go ahead and fly those BS flags) I'm telling you though, it's true. I get so strong when I'm upset, it's like everything weighs 1kg. If someone were to threaten me for example, if I were able to grab them, I could easily break their arms / legs whatever. I'm not saying I WANT to do those things or be that way, I'm saying I AM that way.

Some medications work on me some don't. Aspirin works very well, Ibuprofen does not work on me at all. It doesn't matter how much I take, they may as well be Skittles. I am fantastically sensitive to cigarette smoke, pollution, gas smells, car exhaust etc. I smell things no one else seems to be smelling and they can make me feel really horrible sometimes. My heart races, I get dry mouth - I mean, strong reactions to chemicals in the air. The sun burns me right away despite my darker complexion.

Foods I react oddly to:

You know that fake butter they sell with the microwave popcorn? O M G, that stuff is like crystal meth to me. If I put that "butter" on popcorn I feel like I'm going to crawl right out of my skin.

Garlic? No problem. Meat? No problem (though I don't eat much meat). Put the two together? SICK AS HELL. Makes no sense at all. I'm talking, vomiting a whole salad bar.

Apples make me hungry, but I think they make everyone hungry because they clean you out, right?

Any food with a lot of chemical crap in it makes me feel horrible. I feel dirty inside, like someone just poured dirty rainwater into my veins. Because of this I eat a lot of "raw" foods and feel great.

Alcohol is fine in very, very small amounts. I mean, 1 can of beer is fun. 2 cans is pushing it, 3 cans is heart- skipping-beats toxic. I can go from drunk, to hungover to sober and fine again in 4 hours.
Sexually I am insatiable. I cannot get enough of my wife, who is sick to death of me by now I'm sure...poor thing. I'm guessing that's normal too, but I can do it 3~5 times a day and I'm 42. Something's either very wrong with me or very right with me. :)

I never, never, never, never N E V E R take antibiotics because I don't need any fucking antibiotics because I kick ASS on bad bacteria. I've had full-blown infections just fade away in 3 days. (Here come the BS flags! Count them, 1,2,3.) So I can get infections but once my immunity kicks in, no more infection.

There's a lot more. When I was a kid I was visited in my room by some kind of being. (1,2,3 BS flags,) here, let me help you::bsflag:bsflagbsflag

It scared the holy mother of fuck out of me. It approached me, reached into my chest with its hand, and disappeared. I was pissing myself to sleep at night, afraid that it would come back. Now I know what it was. It was "them". I know where they are.

Do you know what I'm talking about?

Many of you are convinced I'm nuts now....so much the better, I guess. If these things hadn't happened to me, I suppose I wouldn't believe them either.
 Quoting: ATOM 10863890


DUDE!!!!!! no b.s flag here. I highlighted everything that is exactly like me..exactly like me. Are you sure your not me? My being didn't touch my chest..It touched between my eyes. I am not psychic but i have had some 'psychic' episodes in dreams and random visions that hit me at weird random times. Im also very intuitive and can feel people and their intentions and emotions. I see a cut, I feel the cut to. Some people have said i made it feel better while sitting close to the wound. I also am VERY strong for a tiny female. In a relaxed state -mentality- I am normal for my physical existance. But upon anger or high stress i have plowed through a door and took the door as well. I also beat up a man trying to place harm on me one evening. Although he tried to restain me, and physically hurt me..I knew by contact what he was going to do to me, unless I did something to get away. I also have a very high sex drive..only for certain people or certain connections with someone. -these are very specific-

Also, My hearing is super super great. And the smell thing..I get sick as well to things that will be outside around my house. No one smells what i do. Im so sensitive that it will make me physically ill.
 Quoting: Aiyannanaki


Me too for almost all above...esp. the smelling thing. I was the first one to smell burning plastic at work when nobody else could. Then the fire alarm went off.

What makes me physically ill are the chemicals they put in food, esp. those little creamers in restaurants.

My sex drive is very high too, but you are right, only for the right person. Otherwise, I feel nothing.
 Quoting: RedlicoriceRedux


Wow! The sex drive thing caught me eye. Before I got married, I wondered if I was actually a lesbian because I couldn't get turned on by many men (I wasn't attracted to other women though). Even if they were handsome and smart, I felt nothing. Then I met my husband and we went at it like a couple of rabbits. He was the same way. We've been married for 33 years (today :), and I'm still turned on by him.
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very good point, and i've experienced the same..I work in the medical field (hemodialysis). But it seems that my experiences with the doctor's diagnosis or advice seems to hurt me further or not help at all. I'm trying currently to abtain a test to see if i have the HLA-B27 genetic marker. I have reasons to believe my grandmother was suffering from A.S. (she isn't around anymore and i was young) Not only is the doctor throwing rock's, but he keeps blaming to insurance policy. *sigh*
 Quoting: Aiyannanaki


Rh negative metabolism, as far as I understand from what I've read, it's fundamentally different because it is balanced in a manner different to Rh positives (it may not be to do with bloodtype per se but a specific genotype, and given metabolism can vary, it's entirely plausible), so medications etc don't work because they are designed to rebalance a different system.

Doctors do not help in the slightest. In my entire experience (this should say something about the medical community), I have not been properly helped by a single doctor or nurse in a way that I couldn't have done by myself.

I cracked my head open on concrete when I was about 7. I had been bleeding profusely (it stained the settee). I waited 6 hours in A&E. It had pretty much sealed/healed up (it was practically dry) by the time I got seen too. I apparently would have needed stitches (but they took too long to see me). All I got was some glue in my hair (supposedly to help?), it stuck all my hair together, and was a nightmare to wash out.


The only exception, was getting my bloodtype. But for all I know, that could be wrong too (especially given the Rh factor is based on a percentage and people who walk the line can either be Rh positive or Rh negative depending on the sensitivity of the test).
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Deja vecu.

Also, I was going to say something, but I forgot.
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So if RH- are "demon seed" or decended from Nephalim, then why are so many Shepardic jewish people RH-?

Sephardic jewish people are original jewish people of the Bible, unlike Ashkanazis which are essentially Eastern Europeans with some Jewish blood.

If you buy into Nephalim and mixing of angelic and human DNA, then Sephardic jewish people would be the last to have it.

So no black marks for being RH- if you see things from a Biblical point of view.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11690490


Please provide referential proof that the jewish people specifically (Sephardic or otherwise) are (or ever were) the 'chosen ones'. I've never seen that in scriptures.

You seem to imply here, that they're above reproach for some mysterious reason. You seem to believe that they ~cannot possibly be the "demon seed".

Do you also believe that the scriptures were all written by jewish people? (Not transcribed or copied, but actually originally written by ~jewish people).

Btw, I've reasons to believe Rh-'s are indeed hybrids (ie, descendants of Neanderthals), but weren't bred with supernatural or mythical beings. That's pure fantasy, wishful thinking (or, figurative / metaphorical language / speech). Instead, they were bred with real mammals (primates), not Human.

DNA science has already proven it, but it's being covered up by the Media and others, for obvious reasons.
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I was looking for the post to quote saying that Rh- mothers reject the Rh+ fetus as if it was another species. That isn't true. Look at the mule or hiney - it is a distinct species that is born to either a donkey or a horse and it is not rejected by the mother. It just can't reproduce.

Also, I can't blood from anyone but O types. My body will react to the antigens and reject it and I might well die. I am, for all intents and purposes, allergic to all other blood types because I lack the antibodies against the antigens they carry, much like Rh incompatibility. The only difference is that there's no rejection in pregnancy.
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The mule and hinny are both ~Hybrid species, and the reason they can't reproduce is (if not totally sterile) they treat their fetuses (which are practically always either donkey or horse, as they can't breed with their own kind -- hybrids) exactly as if they are foreign species (which to them, they ~are).

In the last 500 yrs (since Agriculturalists have been keeping official written records), only about ~60 known cases of mules (the products of horse mares and donkey stallions) bred with other mules, have produced live offspring.

For Hinnys (the Hybrid product of a donkey mare and a horse stallion) there is only ONE known case of a live offspring within the same time-frame.

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