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So if RH- are "demon seed" or decended from Nephalim, then why are so many Shepardic jewish people RH-?

Sephardic jewish people are original jewish people of the Bible, unlike Ashkanazis which are essentially Eastern Europeans with some Jewish blood.

If you buy into Nephalim and mixing of angelic and human DNA, then Sephardic jewish people would be the last to have it.

So no black marks for being RH- if you see things from a Biblical point of view.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11690490


Please provide referential proof that the jewish people specifically (Sephardic or otherwise) are (or ever were) the 'chosen ones'. I've never seen that in scriptures.

You seem to imply here, that they're above reproach for some mysterious reason. You seem to believe that they ~cannot possibly be the "demon seed".

Do you also believe that the scriptures were all written by jewish people? (Not transcribed or copied, but actually originally written by ~jewish people).

Btw, I've reasons to believe Rh-'s are indeed hybrids (ie, descendants of Neanderthals), but weren't bred with supernatural or mythical beings. That's pure fantasy, wishful thinking (or, figurative / metaphorical language / speech). Instead, they were bred with real mammals (primates), not Human.

DNA science has already proven it, but it's being covered up by the Media and others, for obvious reasons.
 Quoting: shenandoah 2636202


As I am intensely interested in the origins of rh negative blood, I would be so thankful if you would point me to the evidence that science has proven the rh negative bloodline was a result of humans mating with primates.

As far as my ancestors go....I wouldn't put anything past them..........
 Quoting: Dried Up Hag


THE PRODUCTION OF ANTI-HUMAN GLOBULIN
SERUM (COOMBS REAGENT) IN GOATS
BY
I. DUNSFORD AND C. C. BOWLEY
From the National Blood Transfusion Service, Northfield Road, Crookes, Sheffield
(RECEIVED FOR PUBLICATION MARCH 8, 1956)
The rabbit is customarily used for the preparation
of anti-human globulin serum, but there are
several objections to the choice of this animal.
These are: (1) The volume of serum obtained is
small. To maintain supplies it is necessary either
to have several animals producing the reagent, or
to hyperimmunize and bleed the rabbits used too
frequently, which in turn results in a less specific
reagent. (2) The rabbit is prone to myxomatosis.
This note reports the preparation of the reagent
in the goat. The procedure has the following
advantages over preparation in rabbits: (1) It
yields larger volumes of serum. (2) The goat is not
prone to infection with myxomatosis. (3) The
immunizing and bleeding operations are simpler
and quicker. (4) For the laboratory using or distributing
large quantities of the reagent feeding
and housing a goat is less costly than keeping 20
or 30 rabbits.
Method
Sterile group 0 serum, 5 ml., was injected intramuscularly
(gluteal muscles) every three to four days
to a total of 10 injections.
Ten days after the last injection 10-20 ml. blood
was withdrawn from the leg vein.
After heating the serum at 56° C. for 30 minutes
(to inactivate complement) the serum was titrated in
parallel against red cells sensitized with an incomplete
anti-D and against unsensitized cells.
Provided that the titre against the sensitized cells
was at least 20 times as great as that against the
non-sensitized cells, the goat was bled from the external
jugular vein for 400 to 500 ml. The hair of the
neck was closely clipped and a long (20 cm.) largebore
needle (3 mm. external diameter) used. The
blood was allowed to run straight from the needle
into a sterile bottle.
After clotting the serum was separated with aseptic
precautions. Following inactivation of the complement
as before, the anti-human agglutinins were removed
by absorption with well-washed A, B, and 0
cells as for rabbit anti-human globulin serum.
The goat anti-human globulin serum was standardized
in the...

I couldn't copy the link, so posted part of the paper here. Also, [link to en.wikipedia.org]

A Coombs reagent (aka "anti-Human serum") was manufactured from the blood of Rhesus monkeys, back in the 1940's, when scientists were trying to understand why a particular anonymous couple kept giving birth to stillborns.

The mother's blood (like all Rhesus negatives) did NOT "agglutinate" (or, clump; coagulate, curdle, etc.) when introduced to the serum made from the monkey blood.

However, her husband's blood DID agglutinate when in contact w/ the Coomb's reagent (which is still used for testing blood samples for the 'Rhesus factor').

Therefore, Rhesus negatives' blood is compatible w/ monkey blood, while Rhesus positives are not.

It is not the fault of Rhesus positive people, that the scientists at first erroneously reported the woman's husband, instead of the Rh- woman herself, as the one whose blood was compatible with the "Anti-Human" serum. In fact, it seems to have been some sort of mis-communication. Because the fact is that it is Rh negative blood, which is compatible (doesn't agglutinate) in the testing serum (made from Rhesus monkey blood).

Blood products from Rhesus monkeys are (or were) incubated in rabbits, goats, or other lab animals, in order to produce the Anti-D (aka "Anti-Human" serum). "D" is the factor found in Rhesus positive people.

There are many websites which point out that fact. Here's one, but I've also seen it stated on the AMA / Red Cross sites.
[link to www.ginkgo-web.de]

As for not putting your ancestors past it, remember: Humanity has been forced to survive climatic cataclysms which have cause severe bottlenecking of our species.

Human beings are intelligent enough to survive such things, but also enough to get ourselves into lots of trouble.

Also, take a good look at the temple frescoes in Northern India: the "Monkey Armies". Those aren't totally mythic, there's a lot of truth behind it. They were agriculturalists, who prided themselves on their ability to create hybrid crops and animals too (cattle, etc.).

Around the same time that the Vedic agriculturalists were experimenting with breeding, they also introduced the caste systems, monarchies, and slavery to their societies.

Even today, certain people are talking about creating a slave race of hybrids (Human x Chimpanzee). However, whether they realize it or not -- it's already been done.

And the only way to do it, is to breed a female Human with a male lower primate (certain monkeys or apes).
 Quoting: shenandoah 2636202


Well - there you have it folks.....it's US that are the monkey bloods!
laugh
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Re: I'm SICK of the RH Negative thread SLANDER.
So if RH- are "demon seed" or decended from Nephalim, then why are so many Shepardic jewish people RH-?

Sephardic jewish people are original jewish people of the Bible, unlike Ashkanazis which are essentially Eastern Europeans with some Jewish blood.

If you buy into Nephalim and mixing of angelic and human DNA, then Sephardic jewish people would be the last to have it.

So no black marks for being RH- if you see things from a Biblical point of view.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11690490


Please provide referential proof that the jewish people specifically (Sephardic or otherwise) are (or ever were) the 'chosen ones'. I've never seen that in scriptures.

You seem to imply here, that they're above reproach for some mysterious reason. You seem to believe that they ~cannot possibly be the "demon seed".

Do you also believe that the scriptures were all written by jewish people? (Not transcribed or copied, but actually originally written by ~jewish people).

Btw, I've reasons to believe Rh-'s are indeed hybrids (ie, descendants of Neanderthals), but weren't bred with supernatural or mythical beings. That's pure fantasy, wishful thinking (or, figurative / metaphorical language / speech). Instead, they were bred with real mammals (primates), not Human.

DNA science has already proven it, but it's being covered up by the Media and others, for obvious reasons.
 Quoting: shenandoah 2636202


As I am intensely interested in the origins of rh negative blood, I would be so thankful if you would point me to the evidence that science has proven the rh negative bloodline was a result of humans mating with primates.

As far as my ancestors go....I wouldn't put anything past them..........
 Quoting: Dried Up Hag


THE PRODUCTION OF ANTI-HUMAN GLOBULIN
SERUM (COOMBS REAGENT) IN GOATS
BY
I. DUNSFORD AND C. C. BOWLEY
From the National Blood Transfusion Service, Northfield Road, Crookes, Sheffield
(RECEIVED FOR PUBLICATION MARCH 8, 1956)
The rabbit is customarily used for the preparation
of anti-human globulin serum, but there are
several objections to the choice of this animal.
These are: (1) The volume of serum obtained is
small. To maintain supplies it is necessary either
to have several animals producing the reagent, or
to hyperimmunize and bleed the rabbits used too
frequently, which in turn results in a less specific
reagent. (2) The rabbit is prone to myxomatosis.
This note reports the preparation of the reagent
in the goat. The procedure has the following
advantages over preparation in rabbits: (1) It
yields larger volumes of serum. (2) The goat is not
prone to infection with myxomatosis. (3) The
immunizing and bleeding operations are simpler
and quicker. (4) For the laboratory using or distributing
large quantities of the reagent feeding
and housing a goat is less costly than keeping 20
or 30 rabbits.
Method
Sterile group 0 serum, 5 ml., was injected intramuscularly
(gluteal muscles) every three to four days
to a total of 10 injections.
Ten days after the last injection 10-20 ml. blood
was withdrawn from the leg vein.
After heating the serum at 56° C. for 30 minutes
(to inactivate complement) the serum was titrated in
parallel against red cells sensitized with an incomplete
anti-D and against unsensitized cells.
Provided that the titre against the sensitized cells
was at least 20 times as great as that against the
non-sensitized cells, the goat was bled from the external
jugular vein for 400 to 500 ml. The hair of the
neck was closely clipped and a long (20 cm.) largebore
needle (3 mm. external diameter) used. The
blood was allowed to run straight from the needle
into a sterile bottle.
After clotting the serum was separated with aseptic
precautions. Following inactivation of the complement
as before, the anti-human agglutinins were removed
by absorption with well-washed A, B, and 0
cells as for rabbit anti-human globulin serum.
The goat anti-human globulin serum was standardized
in the...

I couldn't copy the link, so posted part of the paper here. Also, [link to en.wikipedia.org]

A Coombs reagent (aka "anti-Human serum") was manufactured from the blood of Rhesus monkeys, back in the 1940's, when scientists were trying to understand why a particular anonymous couple kept giving birth to stillborns.

The mother's blood (like all Rhesus negatives) did NOT "agglutinate" (or, clump; coagulate, curdle, etc.) when introduced to the serum made from the monkey blood.

However, her husband's blood DID agglutinate when in contact w/ the Coomb's reagent (which is still used for testing blood samples for the 'Rhesus factor').

Therefore, Rhesus negatives' blood is compatible w/ monkey blood, while Rhesus positives are not.

It is not the fault of Rhesus positive people, that the scientists at first erroneously reported the woman's husband, instead of the Rh- woman herself, as the one whose blood was compatible with the "Anti-Human" serum. In fact, it seems to have been some sort of mis-communication. Because the fact is that it is Rh negative blood, which is compatible (doesn't agglutinate) in the testing serum (made from Rhesus monkey blood).

Blood products from Rhesus monkeys are (or were) incubated in rabbits, goats, or other lab animals, in order to produce the Anti-D (aka "Anti-Human" serum). "D" is the factor found in Rhesus positive people.

There are many websites which point out that fact. Here's one, but I've also seen it stated on the AMA / Red Cross sites.
[link to www.ginkgo-web.de]

As for not putting your ancestors past it, remember: Humanity has been forced to survive climatic cataclysms which have cause severe bottlenecking of our species.

Human beings are intelligent enough to survive such things, but also enough to get ourselves into lots of trouble.

Also, take a good look at the temple frescoes in Northern India: the "Monkey Armies". Those aren't totally mythic, there's a lot of truth behind it. They were agriculturalists, who prided themselves on their ability to create hybrid crops and animals too (cattle, etc.).

Around the same time that the Vedic agriculturalists were experimenting with breeding, they also introduced the caste systems, monarchies, and slavery to their societies.

Even today, certain people are talking about creating a slave race of hybrids (Human x Chimpanzee). However, whether they realize it or not -- it's already been done.

And the only way to do it, is to breed a female Human with a male lower primate (certain monkeys or apes).
 Quoting: shenandoah 2636202


Well - there you have it folks.....it's US that are the monkey bloods!
laugh
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I said language, not "English", lol.
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You said good grammar and language skills. Not all languages utilise grammar (in the sense we do, consider Japanese and Latin), and given you wrote it in English to an English speaker I naturally assumed you meant English. Because the person you were referring to would have to speak English too.

Being pedantic, but even if we modify it to 'language', the point still stands. The brain has many different functioning areas. Language is just one of them.

Not worried about my own language (I wrote it as accurately as possible to contrast with the irony I'm I.Q. deficient to demonstrate a point - I know many people think it means something but it's just egotistical - I use it, I'm egotistical too).

I have a daughter who was oxygen-deprived at birth (overdue, 9 1/2 lbs, with the cord wrapped around her neck), who suffers from ADHD, and whose IQ is about where yours is on the scale (a little above "average"). She doesn't read or write very much, but man, she can outspar anybody verbally.
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I stopped bothering with I.Q. tests when I realised they didn't factor in creative thinking. Some word analysis, some visual-spatial questions, a bit of mathematics, but no creative thinking.

I'm sort of the opposite. I can read/type fairly well, but verbally I'm very slow. A+. Got diagnosed as 'ADHD' too but I disregarded the label and disproved it.

I would be intrigued as to a verbal sparring though.
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Hello OP, thank you for this. I'm in the rabbit hole like you, and I'm o-. I wish I could have conversation w you outside this forum, because I have some "private2 experiences that I don't reallt want to share publicly. however,pls tell me - of all the possible theories - where do you land? until now I feel like I'm in between different ones and doubting all of them.....
I have eyes that change their colour...is that something mentioned in connection w this?
Thank you.
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Are you sure you're not Rh-? Isn't that a "trait" that Rh- share, wounds that heal "quickly"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946


6 hours is not a rapid healing time. And that was only the clotting of the blood. I had a skull fracture, so bone regeneration time would have been within weeks.

You seem to be seeing something there that I don't. I said the hospital service was so slow (and thus useless) that I healed due to the amount of time that passed.

A+. I can show you the card with it written on too if I still have it to hand.

Huh? It tests for a protein. It is either there or not. You can do the test yourself at home, in fact! Mix your blood with known Rh+ blood. Does it clump?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946


You seem to be merging a number of concepts to form one general concept that is ignorant of the specifics. Either or fallacy.

There's a term (look it up) called 'weakly typed D', because, yes, they test for a marker, but just like any other blood test, there is a specific amount. In the same way there can be 'too much B12' and 'too little B12', there's an amount (because genetics aren't black and white, and you should know that).

I would demand proof that it's as black and white as you're claiming (because I've already given an example that blood tests work by amount: Iron, B12, electrolytes, glucose, and surprise - protein!).

The clump test would be fallacious because it relies on the body (and not the blood) having made anti-bodies (which have to be generated by the glands in the body) in reaction to the blood, so if you were to insert Rh negative blood into Rh positive blood, the anti-bodies likely wouldn't be present as it hasn't been introduced to the body specifically (which is why the first baby in Rh disease is relatively safe - no anti-bodies).

However, you're not testing for the presence of an anti-body (and thus clumping via white cells attaching to the foriegn red cells), but the amount of a specific protein - one could say there's 'a lot' or 'a little' but what about those who have it where there is 'some' - Rh negative or Rh positive? Too much blood sugar, or too little? So an anti-body test would be flawed (and you don't want to inject it directly into the body as that is dangerous and would cause complications in females).


Remember how white cells work. Generally speaking, foreign bodies, marker cells, marker cells attach to/identify foreign body, other white cells attack. No marker cells, no white cells attack.

This goes for every single person out there, regardless of blood type: You are your own best physician. You know your body best. They are there to help you in times of illness and for preventative care, not to tell you why you are the way you are. They are also only human. Also, I don't live in the States, so my health care is different. Maybe the doctors there really don't care, I suppose that's what happens when health care is a for-profit business. Hrm, actually I think Joshua may have been from the UK. I'm not sure what the system is like there. Anywho, long story short(er) - I suspect most doctors truly do want to help you, but they can only do so much. They're not like House, where he can just sit around all day and deduce what could possibly be wrong with this one patient. They can't help when your symptoms aren't physical. They can't help when not in their field of expertise.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946


Despite beating the pro-doctor drum, my skull fracture, I most assure you was physical, and waiting 6 hours before treatment (would you leave a stab wound for 6 hours? One quarter of a day.) means it wasn't in my best interests.

They are supposed to be trained, but instead, I, a member of the public, who only does some part-time googling, the 'armchair researcher', so to speak, am better informed than someone who spend years studying? How does that work? What did they do for all those years?

I have a skull fracture. It's only one of two things - it's either very serious, and needs to be seen to ASAP, or it only needs minor treatment and I can go home - rather than sitting around in a dingy waiting room for 6 hours potentially catching some other disease.

The for-profit system in the US is far worse, because they are more likely to scam you for cash. Here, it's bad for the opposite but same reason, they will more likely fob you off with 'no need to worry! Your head's just bleeding.' in order to save cash.


If I, a student who failed his degree, scrapped grades at school and breaks stuff, am more competent than a 40 year old man who sits in a medical practice in regards to medicine (I had explained why there was no need to test for diabetes - I didn't drink that much water. The test confirmed my glucose levels were normal.), they have well and truly muffed up.

I fail to see the difference between Rh- Power and White Power. They are both meant to separate one group from the "inferior" group by "keeping the blood pure".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946


No, you're just getting the wrong end of the stick here. And that social inexperience showing again, and I'll explain why. Firstly, there's a logical reason for Rh negative women to have Rh negative men - it reduces the number of potential miscarriages due to the potential anti-body reaction and the blood clumping, as you said. The baby is a living being too, don't forget that.

Secondly, this isn't what's being advocated (everyone is getting riled and ruffled feathers), there's no 'purist' element.

As for the social inexperience? People who fall in love will cross many boundaries when doing so. Actually, statistically speaking, assuming neither person knows their bloodtype, there would be no reason to suspect that an (unaware) Rh negative person would favour an Rh negative person over an Rh positive person (assuming all people involved were ignorant and had similar lifestyles etc).

In terms for love crossing boundaries, it's why you have -/+ hybrids. From my understanding, Rh negatives seem to fall in love with just as many Rh positives as Rh negatives.

I've seen it with every single group of humans that I've come across, from book clubs to street gangs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946


Herd behaviour. I have no group to associate with. You won't be able to get people to stop acting like it though, because it's how group cohesion is maintained.

I'm the one who suggested a better list and has been working with you to compile it, so how have "you been left holding it so to speak"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946


Ayianna mentioned about compiling a list a number of pages earlier, which I did attempt to construct using information I know was supported at least in reference and also anecdotally, but it completely scraps, rather than expands upon, the version originally stated.

My entire point was that they are like me, that one missing protein doesn't make us entirely different beings and doesn't correlate with all the "traits" presented in the OP.
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I have always reasoned this, but you're going a bit far with it. I think lists such as those provoke jealousy and the like from those not deemed on the 'in-group'.

igh, I have a feeling I'm going back to being hated in this thread...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946


You're not inferior, and you're not hated. If anything, I see a lot of myself in you.
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Are you sure you're not Rh-? Isn't that a "trait" that Rh- share, wounds that heal "quickly"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946


6 hours is not a rapid healing time. And that was only the clotting of the blood. I had a skull fracture, so bone regeneration time would have been within weeks.

You seem to be seeing something there that I don't. I said the hospital service was so slow (and thus useless) that I healed due to the amount of time that passed.

A+. I can show you the card with it written on too if I still have it to hand. That was a joke! I'm sorry you had a bad experience, however I still believe that not all doctors are idiots and inferior to your Google-fu.

Huh? It tests for a protein. It is either there or not. You can do the test yourself at home, in fact! Mix your blood with known Rh+ blood. Does it clump?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946


You seem to be merging a number of concepts to form one general concept that is ignorant of the specifics. Either or fallacy.

There's a term (look it up) called 'weakly typed D', because, yes, they test for a marker, but just like any other blood test, there is a specific amount. In the same way there can be 'too much B12' and 'too little B12', there's an amount (because genetics aren't black and white, and you should know that).

I would demand proof that it's as black and white as you're claiming (because I've already given an example that blood tests work by amount: Iron, B12, electrolytes, glucose, and surprise - protein!). The tests you mentioned test levels in the blood, yes. However, it is your genes that determine your blood type by determining what proteins make up your blood. You can't be weakly A or kinda HIV positive.

The clump test would be fallacious because it relies on the body (and not the blood) having made anti-bodies (which have to be generated by the glands in the body) in reaction to the blood, so if you were to insert Rh negative blood into Rh positive blood, the anti-bodies likely wouldn't be present as it hasn't been introduced to the body specifically (which is why the first baby in Rh disease is relatively safe - no anti-bodies).You're right. My bad.

However, you're not testing for the presence of an anti-body (and thus clumping via white cells attaching to the foriegn red cells), but the amount of a specific protein - one could say there's 'a lot' or 'a little' but what about those who have it where there is 'some' - Rh negative or Rh positive? Too much blood sugar, or too little? So an anti-body test would be flawed (and you don't want to inject it directly into the body as that is dangerous and would cause complications in females).


Remember how white cells work. Generally speaking, foreign bodies, marker cells, marker cells attach to/identify foreign body, other white cells attack. No marker cells, no white cells attack.

This goes for every single person out there, regardless of blood type: You are your own best physician. You know your body best. They are there to help you in times of illness and for preventative care, not to tell you why you are the way you are. They are also only human. Also, I don't live in the States, so my health care is different. Maybe the doctors there really don't care, I suppose that's what happens when health care is a for-profit business. Hrm, actually I think Joshua may have been from the UK. I'm not sure what the system is like there. Anywho, long story short(er) - I suspect most doctors truly do want to help you, but they can only do so much. They're not like House, where he can just sit around all day and deduce what could possibly be wrong with this one patient. They can't help when your symptoms aren't physical. They can't help when not in their field of expertise.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946


Despite beating the pro-doctor drum, my skull fracture, I most assure you was physical, and waiting 6 hours before treatment (would you leave a stab wound for 6 hours? One quarter of a day.) means it wasn't in my best interests.

They are supposed to be trained, but instead, I, a member of the public, who only does some part-time googling, the 'armchair researcher', so to speak, am better informed than someone who spend years studying? How does that work? What did they do for all those years? How arrogant of you! I like it!

I have a skull fracture. It's only one of two things - it's either very serious, and needs to be seen to ASAP, or it only needs minor treatment and I can go home - rather than sitting around in a dingy waiting room for 6 hours potentially catching some other disease.

The for-profit system in the US is far worse, because they are more likely to scam you for cash. Here, it's bad for the opposite but same reason, they will more likely fob you off with 'no need to worry! Your head's just bleeding.' in order to save cash.


If I, a student who failed his degree, scrapped grades at school and breaks stuff, am more competent than a 40 year old man who sits in a medical practice in regards to medicine (I had explained why there was no need to test for diabetes - I didn't drink that much water. The test confirmed my glucose levels were normal.), they have well and truly muffed up. You should really try working with your doctor instead of belittling him. Would you be so arrogant with a contractor when discussing the hidden foundational structure of your house? Or would you share information and respect both his expertise and your insider knowledge of your house? Or maybe you should just find another doctor. I, for one, wouldn't visit an armchair surgeon, no matter how much she thought she knew about everything.

I fail to see the difference between Rh- Power and White Power. They are both meant to separate one group from the "inferior" group by "keeping the blood pure".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946


No, you're just getting the wrong end of the stick here. And that social inexperience showing again, and I'll explain why. Firstly, there's a logical reason for Rh negative women to have Rh negative men - it reduces the number of potential miscarriages due to the potential anti-body reaction and the blood clumping, as you said. The baby is a living being too, don't forget that. So does the shot.

Secondly, this isn't what's being advocated (everyone is getting riled and ruffled feathers), there's no 'purist' element. I'm sorry, did you miss the Rh- bloodline icon at the end of the OP?

As for the social inexperience? People who fall in love will cross many boundaries when doing so. Actually, statistically speaking, assuming neither person knows their bloodtype, there would be no reason to suspect that an (unaware) Rh negative person would favour an Rh negative person over an Rh positive person (assuming all people involved were ignorant and had similar lifestyles etc). Again, that's why they made the shot. You know, the evil medical establishment. There would be no favouritism if it weren't for these campaigns to keep the bloodline pure.

In terms for love crossing boundaries, it's why you have -/+ hybrids. From my understanding, Rh negatives seem to fall in love with just as many Rh positives as Rh negatives.Yep, demonstrating that the differences really aren't that great, huh?

I've seen it with every single group of humans that I've come across, from book clubs to street gangs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946


Herd behaviour. I have no group to associate with. You won't be able to get people to stop acting like it though, because it's how group cohesion is maintained.

I'm the one who suggested a better list and has been working with you to compile it, so how have "you been left holding it so to speak"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946


Ayianna mentioned about compiling a list a number of pages earlier, which I did attempt to construct using information I know was supported at least in reference and also anecdotally, but it completely scraps, rather than expands upon, the version originally stated. Alright, I see. My apologies.

My entire point was that they are like me, that one missing protein doesn't make us entirely different beings and doesn't correlate with all the "traits" presented in the OP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946



I have always reasoned this, but you're going a bit far with it. I think lists such as those provoke jealousy and the like from those not deemed on the 'in-group'. How am I going too far with it?

igh, I have a feeling I'm going back to being hated in this thread...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946


You're not inferior, and you're not hated. If anything, I see a lot of myself in you. hf
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Before I get jumped on, I didn't mean to suggest that HIV is genetic. My lost to poor grammar point is that not all blood tests test "levels" in your blood.
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This belongs in this thread:

Hahaha, thanks for posting this!

Well, then tell me what I'm supposed to be like...
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Well, I could do with the practice. You're asking for honesty, so it won't be entirely pleasant. Sherlock scan as thus:

You're:

Arrogant - Post with an 'I'm right', non-open minded attitude. Sure... when I'm right. I'm not always right, but when I know that I'm right, can show ample evidence indicating such, I'm right. You say a ball will fly if you drop it from the roof, I say it doesn't, you argue with me, I get arrogant. Because I'm right.

Jealous - beratement of Rh negatives, which leads to the next point... Jealous? Of what? Misinformation and false rumours?

Ridiculed, and made to feel inferior (you're emulating the same behaviour that was used on you, hence the over-reliance on evidence), so I'd imagine you were bullied at school. Hence 'anonymous coward' and no real name to go with it (wary of the backlash). Which leads to the next point... Nope. Never bullied, never a bully, especially not at school. The AC is because I'm mostly lazy. How would not putting a name in avoid backlash? Do you want my full legal name? Phone number? Address? Credit card numbers and expiry dates?

You're over-relying on evidence to verify claims, because at one point in your life you were made to feel inferior (get ready for the next point, it's a surprise!), so you formulated the reliance on proof and evidence as the defensive mechanism against being ridiculed, because who could ridicule a fact? No-one, hence the insistence on proof. You call it over-reliance on evidence, I call it accepting reality. If you refuse to believe in genetics, there's nothing I can do about that except let other people reading the misinformation know and provide links and explanations that said people can then look up on their own.

Intelligent. Hence the ridicule. Your peers, were, surprise, jealous - but don't let it get to your head because people have different sets of unique skills. This follows on the next point... Thanks, I do think I'm fairly intelligent, despite my blood handicap in that department.tomato However, I don't think I view intelligence the way you think I do. I'm well aware that people have different kinds of smarts and I don't think intelligence comes from a number on an IQ test. I consider myself much more of an artist than a scientist, but then again, I view them as two sides of the same creative mind coin. I don't advocate unquestioning faith in anything.

...That you probably, as a result, liked science (where's the proof? - You take after what you like... and also what you don't like) and mathematics, and no doubt you're a gamer (but, modern day society, who isn't?). Given the amount of aggression I'd say first person shooters are your style of game given the competitive nature of play. I like science. And math. And patterns. And understanding the world around me. I never play video games and I detest first person shooters. I like board and card games, but I'm not very competitive, except when I'm gambling or playing with myself. jerkit

As a result, loner. Or rather, narrow social circle of friends ("believe it or not, this is me being tactful" - a lack of understanding of social diplomacy and thus a lack of social experience). Hence the ridgidity and near-literal mindedness of analysis. Do you really think I'd be on GLP if I was so rigid and closed-minded? As for my circle of friends, I love them dearly and have been friends with my best friends since childhood and I am always expanding my circle of friends. I also run several support groups for chronically ill patients and their loved ones and live a good portion of my life immersed in social diplomacy. Still doesn't change genetics.

Atheist. World's unjust, why is it so wrong, how could it be so stotic, where's the proof? There's a small amount of doubt showing in most of your posts though, so you suspect something is there, you just can't yet prove it (and you're not going to say anything out of fear of ridicule - sure, you don't fear being ridiculed but you're afraid to step outside the boundary into the grey area... all inventors stepped into the grey area at some point...). Huh? Trust me, that is so far from the truth, it's laughable. I just don't subscribe to any religious doctrine. But I absolutely believe there is something akin to God and I don't shy away from talking about that. But, yeah, lots of people assume I'm atheist.


As a result of feeling inferior and feeling this knee-jerk drive in order to prove yourself, you decided that you would appeal to the group consensus (that's a logical fallacy, look it up) by ridiculing a strawman point (also a fallacy, look it up) in the hopes people would agree in order to boost your flailing self-esteem from your diminishing social circle. rofl What?!? Strawman, maybe. Ad populum? Really? This isn't about winning an argument, it's about discussing on a discussion forum. But, still, wrong is still wrong. Carrying an unexpressed gene for CF doesn't mean you have cystic fibrosis. Saying that all AB+ people are psychic, inhumanly strong, and make wicked chocolate chip cookies, then dismissing anyone who's AB+ with STFU liar who disagrees and dismissing AB- people who say that they fit those criteria as full of shit doesn't make you right. Especially if the only evidence of your argument comes from a pseudoscientific website where you have to pay a monthly membership fee.


In summary, you need to have more confidence in yourself, and less of a focus on facts. Many ideas started out as unproven concepts which had no factual basis before finally reaching acceptance. A lack of evidence for something does not mean it does not exist, just there is a lack of evidence. Don't point out the lack, search for the answer. In summary, thanks for your analysis. It was an interesting read. I fully agree with your statement that a lack of evidence for something does not mean it doesn't exist. Search out the answer for yourself, but eventually you're going to need evidence. (Hence my suggestion of an unbiased questionnaire) If you can't get any evidence, then chances are pretty good that your hypothesis is faulty. If you need to rearrange biology and suspend belief to fit your the-o-ry, it's probably time to start reevaluating.
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To simplify my desire to know GLPers RH+, RH- percentage traits from the list. Could we all just look through the list(s) and give your blood type and percentage of traits/medical/Extra Sensory Perception conditions that match? Pretty please?

AB- = 95%
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Most have stronger Immune systems.
• Most have Autoimmune Conditions and the HLA-B27 genetic marker.
• Most have fair skin and light eyed, in response to having Melanin imbalances and Vit. D Deficiencies
• Most process CO2 more efficiently
• Most tend to have Iron/Copper imbalances
• Missing the RhD protein that acts as a barrier on the red blood cells.
• Pregnancy issues and complications with the clashing of blood type within the fetus.

Now given that negatives are missing this “ RhD protein” around their red blood cells. Could this be that the protein acts as a barrier to protect the person from the effects of the environment? Could this be why most negatives have psychic abilities there is not a protein barrier, so could things we don’t yet understand channel into us giving us these strange abilities? As you can see most RH NEGS are almost seemingly “allergic” to the environment we are in- And by that I mean the SUN. It’s like we don’t work properly in this environment.. Can’t bare children without medical intervention, and all the other things I mentioned above we either completely lack it or we are overly producing defenses to it.

"Here are a few “fun” facts shared by many within the Rhesus negative groups (I can say for MYSELF alone that these are FACTS of negatives reality But I don’t want to share my “weirdness” at this moment):"

I'll share my "weirdness" (and I'm O+)...

yes, in fact I've been told more than once, "You weren't made for this world" • A feeling of not belonging
yes, began seeking Truth at very early age, hate deliberate lies, liars • Truth seekers
yes, very conscientious • Sense of a "Mission" in life
yes, hate the "war economy" & Darwinist, "Might makes Right" attitudes especially, since their values are misplaced • Empathy & Compassion for Mankind
no • An extra rib or vertebra.
yes, highest in 6th grade class (I heard one of the 'debutantes' growl to her friend, "oh nooo, the retard has the highest IQ"; top 2% scholastically • Higher than average IQ
yes, it spooks a lot of people • ESP Ability
yes • Love of Space & Science
yes, all five senses very acute; father had incredibly excellent vision too • More sensitive vision & other senses.
yes, unfortunately it scares most people • Increased of psychic/intuitive abilities
IDK, but doubt this is true of me • Cannot be cloned
possibly, nurses have mentioned that it was slightly below 'normal' (even when I lived in sweltering Florida) • Lower body temperature
yes, also my father (O+), mother (A+) & sister (A or O+) (we carry the 16189C mutation on our mtDNA, too); mine was lower than normal when I was younger, now is a bit too high • Higher blood pressure (some say lower either way one extreme to another never quite right)
no, but my youngest daughter (B+) has light gray eyes which sometimes look almost clear or colorless, yet light green or light blue at other times (& she has 'ginger' or strawberry blonde hair -- "Butterscotch") • Predominantly blue, green, or Hazel eyes
yes, all the girls of our immediate family have reddish hair; father and 3rd great-grandmother had fiery red hair during childhood, which changed to dark brown after puberty • Red or reddish tint to hair color
yes, I can't stand much sun or heat; moved up north to escape it; I absolutely cannot tan at all (even when I try -- I burn instead) • Increased sensitivity to heat & sunlight
yes, probably due to my acute spiritual and physical awareness; but I've become used to it; I don't live in fear, nor indulge in the drama of it (hate horror movies, for example -- not because they scare me, but because they cater to sadists • Unexplained Scares
yes, it makes people uncomfortable • Piercing Eyes
yes • Tend to be Healers
yes, I feel others' pain • Empathetic Illnesses
yes, lightbulbs, etc. • Ability to disrupt electrical devices
yes; except I don't allow them to take me -- I believe they are actually demons, not "aliens" • Prone to Alien Abductions
yes, fairly often • Experience unexplained phenomenon
yes, fairly often • Physic Dreams and/or Ability
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Yes, until recently (after an EKG / pre-employment physical, my immune system suddenly crashed and I became diabetic at the same time...); I still however almost never catch colds or flu (haven't had the flu in about 10-12 years; only catch colds occasionally, and only happened when around crowds or small children -- I can't remember the last time I had a cold) Most have stronger Immune systems.

IDK about the genetic marker, but I have hereditary asthma (grandfather & cousin were also asthmatics), severe allergies (cat dander, dust, etc.) • Most have Autoimmune Conditions and the HLA-B27 genetic marker.

So fair, you can see my veins right through it; tissue-paper thin, too; bruise very easily (as did mother and grandmother, it's hereditary)... but have brown eyes like many in my family (Celtic, Basque, Cherokee, Atlantean / Western European types) • Most have fair skin and light eyed, in response to having Melanin imbalances and Vit. D Deficiencies

I doubt it • Most process CO2 more efficiently

Probably not, although I do crave a big steak now and then (I also eat seafood, fish, "sushi", dairy products -- a varied diet including lots of 'greens', legumes and veggies suits me best) • Most tend to have Iron/Copper imbalances

No, I have that (although I'm quite possibly a "carrier" of the recessive "r" or "d" gene -- I don't know the bloodtypes of my first two children, even though I've inquired about it to both their obstetricians and to themselves... There's unfortunately a great deal of secrecy surrounding bloodtypes in America, and I'd really like to know if I am a "carrier" of the gene) • Missing the RhD protein that acts as a barrier on the red blood cells.

No issues stemming from bloodtype; however "got the needle" after the last two deliveries (nurse stated both times, that it was a "Rubella vaccine" -- and I still don't understand that, since my mother had Rubella in childhood and I've had all of my childhood vaccinations)... The only other pregnancy issue was my firstborn's breech birth, which is common among women with my type of pelvis (the rare "archaic" or "platypelloid" type) • Pregnancy issues and complications with the clashing of blood type within the fetus.

PS - In response to Joseph's remarks about American doctors, here's my opinion: the American government and their doctors (doctors answer to the Government, not to the patients whose lives and well-being depend on them, and who go broke paying them for their lousy services) seem to treat us like property rather than like Human beings, with dignity. I am not pleased at all with our system of health care, nor are many others who've been harmed by it.

The schools also work in the interests of doctors / psychiatrists (not in the interests of students at all). My daughter had ADHD due to medical malpractice (I'd told them that I was overdue, but they dismissed me like an idiot). The reason my body wouldn't go into labor was because the cord was wrapped around my babies neck. So what did they do? Induced labor, of course (only because the water had broke -- not because I told them I was 3 wks overdue).

So, the schools couldn't handle her (she was energetic, high-spirited, needed lots of exercise to increase the oxygen to her brain, so couldn't sit still or be very quiet for them). They treated her like a mental case and that she was that way because of me (no way, she would have been much worse than that, had it not been for my love and nurturance).

So they forced me to take her to the pediatrician and get her into a program of constant visits, experimenting with various meds (iow, speed, Ritalin, and other psychotropics). Then when I confronted them about their treating her as though she had a disability, the principle stated, quote: "She could get SSI benefits, but you would be seen as a bad mother if you accepted them for her, because by accepting them you (not they) would be
stigmatizing your child.

So, once again the government and all their bureaucrats and medical associates avoided responsibility for mine and my daughter's damages, while making out like bandits on her case. They exploited her and me, making money off of us; and I was so exhausted from working overtime trying to pay the medical expenses not covered in the "Health Insurance" which also costs too much, that his offensive and unfair remark took me completely off guard.

Up until then, I'd bought into the lies that the "authorities" really care; they actually don't. They're only in it for the $$$. Medical and healthcare should never have been made into capitalist, corporate institutions.

And needless to say, my daughter (all my kids, really) hated school with a passion. But the authorities didn't take responsibilty for that, either. No, if your child hates school, it is never the school's fault; it is always yours and your child's fault. And they have the authority (like Nazis) to send your child to have their heads examined, to try to find some cause (not theirs, they're in denial about it) for the children not liking school.

And the midwives who delivered my daughter with the cord wrapped around her neck, continued to deny that she was born overdue, too. Even though she weighed 9 1/2 lbs, they found a way to blame me for that (they claimed my diet must have been unhealthy -- BS).

OK, I'm done ranting. If anyone defends them, you won't get a response from me.
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If you take away the two traits that deal are exclusive to Rh-

• Missing the RhD protein that acts as a barrier on the red blood cells.

• Pregnancy issues and complications with the clashing of blood type within the fetus.

My score goes up to almost 83%.
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Hello OP, thank you for this. I'm in the rabbit hole like you, and I'm o-. I wish I could have conversation w you outside this forum, because I have some "private2 experiences that I don't reallt want to share publicly. however,pls tell me - of all the possible theories - where do you land? until now I feel like I'm in between different ones and doubting all of them.....
I have eyes that change their colour...is that something mentioned in connection w this?
Thank you.
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If you would like to discuss things more privately I have an email account just for glp, I would love to hear your experiences and share my own!
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Found an interesting site if anyone is interested (I just joined hehe) So far so good, It's a free group angled at Rh negatives and whats going on with all this..some very interesting discussions going on over there!

[link to rhnegativeblood.ning.com]




Also found some interesting info on this site :

[link to www.drpeterjdadamo.com]

Looking into this info at the moment, but some good bits and peices..
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when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
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very good point, and i've experienced the same..I work in the medical field (hemodialysis). But it seems that my experiences with the doctor's diagnosis or advice seems to hurt me further or not help at all. I'm trying currently to abtain a test to see if i have the HLA-B27 genetic marker. I have reasons to believe my grandmother was suffering from A.S. (she isn't around anymore and i was young) Not only is the doctor throwing rock's, but he keeps blaming to insurance policy. *sigh*
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Rh negative metabolism, as far as I understand from what I've read, it's fundamentally different because it is balanced in a manner different to Rh positives (it may not be to do with bloodtype per se but a specific genotype, and given metabolism can vary, it's entirely plausible), so medications etc don't work because they are designed to rebalance a different system.

Doctors do not help in the slightest. In my entire experience (this should say something about the medical community), I have not been properly helped by a single doctor or nurse in a way that I couldn't have done by myself.

I cracked my head open on concrete when I was about 7. I had been bleeding profusely (it stained the settee). I waited 6 hours in A&E. It had pretty much sealed/healed up (it was practically dry) by the time I got seen too. I apparently would have needed stitches (but they took too long to see me). All I got was some glue in my hair (supposedly to help?), it stuck all my hair together, and was a nightmare to wash out.


The only exception, was getting my bloodtype. But for all I know, that could be wrong too (especially given the Rh factor is based on a percentage and people who walk the line can either be Rh positive or Rh negative depending on the sensitivity of the test).
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Quite the frustrations at any means for help in an emergency room..I hate them. LOL I was thinking just now about something i just recently seen at another site on Rh negative and emergency situtions (in fact I'd more or less be SCREWED being O-) but..There is some policy in place around my area I have been blessed to dig into and the short version is this : If an O- needs a transfusion for any emergency, the O- patient will receive O+ subsitute after receving the alloted ratio. (basically bc of lack of O- supply on hand they will place the standard amount of O- and then pump you with O+) and then you will receive an antigen D [rhogam] shot... damn the rare bloodtypes..lol
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We are but one thread within it.
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When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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Sorry, that was Joshua Flynn (not "Joseph") I responded to above.

And yes Joshua, I realize there are typos in my post (I'm on time restraints here, at the public library).

Getting back on topic, I'm not sure what my percentage is, but it looks like I share most of the traits at least to some extent.

Also, although I believe "alien abductions" are actually demon oppression (a spiritual, or in some cases a psychic or even psychological or emotional matter) -- I've experienced a visitation of an angel during a "vision" (while in a prayerful, meditative trance state).

The angelic experience is far different from the "alien abduction" types of experiences. Lots more pleasant, for one thing. In fact it's quite healing, heals the heart and soul.

As for unusual experiences, I once saw a huge (size of a full moon) ball of orange fire glide across the sky at night while camping in a wilderness area of Florida. It looked like what is described as a "bright meteor", but strangely had no tail. Very beautiful, and some of my very skeptical companions couldn't believe me when I related it to them the following morning (thankfully one did believe me, however -- my best friend). I barely made one statement about it, before the others started whining that it was too incredible for them to believe.

Also, my then boyfriend and I had a very close encounter with a strange light in the Ocala National Forest, which I later learned others had also seen. That thing was frightening, as was in the habit of stalking cars as they drove down the highway. Unless you were very lucky, you might not have even realized that it was there.

So when my bf pulled over to watch it park in the air beside our car -- I tried to hide under the dashboard and begged him to get us the hell out of there.

His sister was Rh- btw... Gotta go now.
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I'm in shock!!! I know we negatives share similarities..but damn, we really are alike ! And good theory on the adrenalin thing! I have nick named that 'hulk syndrome' bc being angered makes me (tiny 5'1 and a half, 105lbs) female, a force not to be messed with. Also do you control you're emotion's well? I seem to be very tough as nails at getting past the barriers..what usually does it to me is endangering my life or someone around me ..or a loved one. etc.. I basically have to backed into a corner..but once i do.......abomb
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Sure enough - it's the truth. It HAS to be. Yes, and the thing is, being tiny as you are, everyone would assume you to be weak, which technically you are "weak" as long as you are not emotionally charged up. I mean, for everyday kinds of things - but once your button has been pushed...oohh...ohh noooo redface It's like you become this other person.

You know what it's really like, is for a short time, being able to do anything you want until the effect wears off lol. It's just that the things that trigger it tend to be threatening kinds of things and so you tend to break something or lift something or otherwise dump a 100 gallon drum of whoop-ass on someone...and the scariest part...is how easy it is.

Looking at your picture, I can totally see you as Rh neg lol

We are faaaaar away from each other seriously, I could not ride a camel to your housetounge I'm in Hawaii. I'm looking for a way to PM you on here, but it looks like I cannot. Oh well, I guess the whole world will have to read these lol
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Well it's strange thats for sure. I have yet to find very many negatives, let alone anyone who also suffer's from 'hulk syndrome' very neat indeed! It is really easy to find myself with massive strength with rage. what are the odd's another neg has that..im still in shock. LOL you do live far from me, a whole world away. If you have other things about this that you do not want others to see I'm in voice chat usually in the evenings and in the mornings for a few hour's. Not sure how the time difference goes between us though.


Re "Hulk syndrome" ... A typical mature male rhesus monkey can easily take down any adult (Hu)man (Hybrid or not) in hand-to-hand combat.

Of course, physical prowess or instinctive stealth (ie like the way mountain lions or bears might stalk a Human in the woods) doesn't equal ~intelligence.

PS, good grammar and language skill ~is a sign of Human intelligence.


What are you going on about? Are you talking about human's fighting in hand to hand combat with Rhesus monkey's? I'm quite confused.... HELP lol

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Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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I cracked my head open on concrete when I was about 7. I had been bleeding profusely (it stained the settee). I waited 6 hours in A&E. It had pretty much sealed/healed up (it was practically dry) by the time I got seen too. I apparently would have needed stitches (but they took too long to see me). All I got was some glue in my hair (supposedly to help?), it stuck all my hair together, and was a nightmare to wash out.
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Are you sure you're not Rh-? Isn't that a "trait" that Rh- share, wounds that heal "quickly"?

The only exception, was getting my bloodtype. But for all I know, that could be wrong too (especially given the Rh factor is based on a percentage and people who walk the line can either be Rh positive or Rh negative depending on the sensitivity of the test).
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Huh? It tests for a protein. It is either there or not. You can do the test yourself at home, in fact! Mix your blood with known Rh+ blood. Does it clump?


Wow! The sex drive thing caught me eye. Before I got married, I wondered if I was actually a lesbian because I couldn't get turned on by many men (I wasn't attracted to other women though). Even if they were handsome and smart, I felt nothing. Then I met my husband and we went at it like a couple of rabbits. He was the same way. We've been married for 33 years (today :), and I'm still turned on by him.
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Ditto. Of course, that goes for just about every other person I know except my best friend who is a total player. Also, hehe, "like a couple of rabbits". Hopefully someone who knows the history of the discovery of the rhesus factor will find that as funny as I do.

I'm troubled by doctors (or GPs) because I find my own self-diagnosis to be far more accurate. Often, the doctors look stumped when I explain specific symptoms and then reason why it can't be one common illness or another. Either they run tests that confirm exactly what I was saying, or they just go, 'I don't know'. I'm troubled that these are supposed to be the medical experts.
 Quoting: Joshua Flynn 12678181


This goes for every single person out there, regardless of blood type: You are your own best physician. You know your body best. They are there to help you in times of illness and for preventative care, not to tell you why you are the way you are. They are also only human. Also, I don't live in the States, so my health care is different. Maybe the doctors there really don't care, I suppose that's what happens when health care is a for-profit business. Hrm, actually I think Joshua may have been from the UK. I'm not sure what the system is like there. Anywho, long story short(er) - I suspect most doctors truly do want to help you, but they can only do so much. They're not like House, where he can just sit around all day and deduce what could possibly be wrong with this one patient. They can't help when your symptoms aren't physical. They can't help when not in their field of expertise.

very good point, and i've experienced the same..I work in the medical field (hemodialysis). But it seems that my experiences with the doctor's diagnosis or advice seems to hurt me further or not help at all. I'm trying currently to abtain a test to see if i have the HLA-B27 genetic marker. I have reasons to believe my grandmother was suffering from A.S. (she isn't around anymore and i was young) Not only is the doctor throwing rock's, but he keeps blaming to insurance policy. *sigh*
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I suspect that my grandmother had scleroderma. I suspect it would have killed her if she hadn't killed herself first to escape the pain. But I'll never know. Do you have symptoms of AS? If it's suspected, then I don't understand why they wouldn't do blood tests for it. But, again, HLA-B27 is not specific to AS or indicative of it. It just means you have a gene that is thought to be associated with the development of it. So, what do you hope to gain from getting the costly test? Is it medically indicated? Is it just for your peace of mind? If so, then don't go through insurance. If you need to know if you have this gene (which, by the way is on chromosome 6, while the Rhesus genes are located on chromosome 1) for your own peace of mind, then I'm sure someone will do the test if you wave cash at them.

Ok, great start. Perhaps we should separate them into verifiable, measurable traits and subjective traits next. Like, physical characteristics (ie hair colour) and psychological characteristics (ie higher IQ) and subjective experiences (ie psychic experiences). I would do it right now, but I have to get out for my walk.
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I believe this is the best idea! and along the way we should try to find the best reliable source or link to back it up, or attempt to give a good standing on why this is possible. Off to a great start!
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I don't think that the questionnaire is going to be very useful if you use it for the sole purpose of gathering evidence to fit your the-o-ry. See definition of pseudoscience.

This goes for A LOT we have been taught, not just everything about anything except blood type..
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I apply to even what I've been taught. No theory too absurd so long as it fits the facts.

I believe Joshua covered the whole "fact" vs "not fact" very nicely. Are they really FACTS? Have there been actual studies that are publicly available?
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Keep calm dude. You're going at this with aggression (even if you don't think it is, it's giving that impression), you only need to reason, and Aiyanna understands the point. There's already been some effort on constructing a better supported list (although I seem to have been left holding it so to speak).

I've addressed the other points you've brought up. Calm; the correct response to any division is not beratement or aggression, but reconciliation.

Demonstrate, don't lecture. Here's an Rh positive, they are like you, we're not so different.
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I fail to see the difference between Rh- Power and White Power. They are both meant to separate one group from the "inferior" group by "keeping the blood pure". It riles me up. I don't get it. I do get trying to understand yourself and why you are the way you are, and I get feeling oppressed and wanting to identify with a group. Strength in numbers and all that. So, I guess I do get where it comes from and why these beliefs are so strong that they form their own logic. I've seen it with every single group of humans that I've come across, from book clubs to street gangs. I'm the one who suggested a better list and has been working with you to compile it, so how have "you been left holding it so to speak"? However, I'm starting to think that passing around such a list will do more harm than good, for the simple reason that it is not designed for inquiry, but for reinforcing these beliefs.

My entire point was that they are like me, that one missing protein doesn't make us entirely different beings and doesn't correlate with all the "traits" presented in the OP. Sigh, I have a feeling I'm going back to being hated in this thread...
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HAHA still no hate from me love! To address the Genetic marker test, I asked for it [peace of mind] and He wasn't willing to take cash. First instinct was to pull out the wad..lol. I fail. But i have contacted another doctor that says he will do it and get back to me for an appointment mid summer. As for the A.S I have some of the signs, other then that i wouldn't know or not. But even tho i have some of the sign's he has no reason to believe i have it. Seems like it just doesn't matter to him anyway. Wish he would have just checked for peace of mind. But i fail again, lol.

As for the genetic marker, my main target with that is to see if I have it bc of some of the theories i have heard, if i have it [[or let's say my lineage does]] Some theories will ring true for me. (series of personal beliefs and a mission within myself)

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Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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So if RH- are "demon seed" or decended from Nephalim, then why are so many Shepardic jewish people RH-?

Sephardic jewish people are original jewish people of the Bible, unlike Ashkanazis which are essentially Eastern Europeans with some Jewish blood.

If you buy into Nephalim and mixing of angelic and human DNA, then Sephardic jewish people would be the last to have it.

So no black marks for being RH- if you see things from a Biblical point of view.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11690490


Please provide referential proof that the jewish people specifically (Sephardic or otherwise) are (or ever were) the 'chosen ones'. I've never seen that in scriptures.

You seem to imply here, that they're above reproach for some mysterious reason. You seem to believe that they ~cannot possibly be the "demon seed".

Do you also believe that the scriptures were all written by jewish people? (Not transcribed or copied, but actually originally written by ~jewish people).

Btw, I've reasons to believe Rh-'s are indeed hybrids (ie, descendants of Neanderthals), but weren't bred with supernatural or mythical beings. That's pure fantasy, wishful thinking (or, figurative / metaphorical language / speech). Instead, they were bred with real mammals (primates), not Human.

DNA science has already proven it, but it's being covered up by the Media and others, for obvious reasons.
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The post was coming from a psuedo-Biblical point of view that at one time fallen angels bred with human women and that DNA is still with us.

Again, from that point of view, Sephardic jewish people were God's chosen people and unlikely to have that non-human DNA. That is why the Isrealites were commanded to kill everything in Cannan, children as well, as the Cannanites were not fully human. They failed at that task if you read the Old Testament.

My assumption is that most who slander RH- as reptilian or Nephalim leftovers come from this Biblical viewpoint. I'm refuting it from their point of view.
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"psuedo-Biblical" you got that right.

"who slander RH- as reptilian or Nephalim leftovers come from this Biblical viewpoint."

Strange, I learned about that weird stuff from the Rhesus negatives themselves[/b...
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Shenandoah:

Do you blog at johngaltfla.com?
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Yes, until recently (after an EKG / pre-employment physical, my immune system suddenly crashed and I became diabetic at the same time...); I still however almost never catch colds or flu (haven't had the flu in about 10-12 years; only catch colds occasionally, and only happened when around crowds or small children -- I can't remember the last time I had a cold) Most have stronger Immune systems.

IDK about the genetic marker, but I have hereditary asthma (grandfather & cousin were also asthmatics), severe allergies (cat dander, dust, etc.) • Most have Autoimmune Conditions and the HLA-B27 genetic marker.

So fair, you can see my veins right through it; tissue-paper thin, too; bruise very easily (as did mother and grandmother, it's hereditary)... but have brown eyes like many in my family (Celtic, Basque, Cherokee, Atlantean / Western European types) • Most have fair skin and light eyed, in response to having Melanin imbalances and Vit. D Deficiencies

I doubt it • Most process CO2 more efficiently

Probably not, although I do crave a big steak now and then (I also eat seafood, fish, "sushi", dairy products -- a varied diet including lots of 'greens', legumes and veggies suits me best) • Most tend to have Iron/Copper imbalances

No, I have that (although I'm quite possibly a "carrier" of the recessive "r" or "d" gene -- I don't know the bloodtypes of my first two children, even though I've inquired about it to both their obstetricians and to themselves... There's unfortunately a great deal of secrecy surrounding bloodtypes in America, and I'd really like to know if I am a "carrier" of the gene) • Missing the RhD protein that acts as a barrier on the red blood cells.

No issues stemming from bloodtype; however "got the needle" after the last two deliveries (nurse stated both times, that it was a "Rubella vaccine" -- and I still don't understand that, since my mother had Rubella in childhood and I've had all of my childhood vaccinations)... The only other pregnancy issue was my firstborn's breech birth, which is common among women with my type of pelvis (the rare "archaic" or "platypelloid" type) • Pregnancy issues and complications with the clashing of blood type within the fetus.

PS - In response to Joseph's remarks about American doctors, here's my opinion: the American government and their doctors (doctors answer to the Government, not to the patients whose lives and well-being depend on them, and who go broke paying them for their lousy services) seem to treat us like property rather than like Human beings, with dignity. I am not pleased at all with our system of health care, nor are many others who've been harmed by it.

The schools also work in the interests of doctors / psychiatrists (not in the interests of students at all). My daughter had ADHD due to medical malpractice (I'd told them that I was overdue, but they dismissed me like an idiot). The reason my body wouldn't go into labor was because the cord was wrapped around my babies neck. So what did they do? Induced labor, of course (only because the water had broke -- not because I told them I was 3 wks overdue).

So, the schools couldn't handle her (she was energetic, high-spirited, needed lots of exercise to increase the oxygen to her brain, so couldn't sit still or be very quiet for them). They treated her like a mental case and that she was that way because of me (no way, she would have been much worse than that, had it not been for my love and nurturance).

So they forced me to take her to the pediatrician and get her into a program of constant visits, experimenting with various meds (iow, speed, Ritalin, and other psychotropics). Then when I confronted them about their treating her as though she had a disability, the principle stated, quote: "She could get SSI benefits, but you would be seen as a bad mother if you accepted them for her, because by accepting them you (not they) would be
stigmatizing your child.

So, once again the government and all their bureaucrats and medical associates avoided responsibility for mine and my daughter's damages, while making out like bandits on her case. They exploited her and me, making money off of us; and I was so exhausted from working overtime trying to pay the medical expenses not covered in the "Health Insurance" which also costs too much, that his offensive and unfair remark took me completely off guard.

Up until then, I'd bought into the lies that the "authorities" really care; they actually don't. They're only in it for the $$$. Medical and healthcare should never have been made into capitalist, corporate institutions.

And needless to say, my daughter (all my kids, really) hated school with a passion. But the authorities didn't take responsibilty for that, either. No, if your child hates school, it is never the school's fault; it is always yours and your child's fault. And they have the authority (like Nazis) to send your child to have their heads examined, to try to find some cause (not theirs, they're in denial about it) for the children not liking school.

And the midwives who delivered my daughter with the cord wrapped around her neck, continued to deny that she was born overdue, too. Even though she weighed 9 1/2 lbs, they found a way to blame me for that (they claimed my diet must have been unhealthy -- BS).

OK, I'm done ranting. If anyone defends them, you won't get a response from me.
 Quoting: shenandoah 2636202


I think i can relate to you're experiences. I have had trouble mainly during pregnancies. One point i have received TWO rhogam shots instead of the one needed, because they had misplaced my 'rhogam paperwork'. I tried to tell them but apparently,I was a liar and I was treated like I had a reason to lie about this. Im sure it was to save their own ass just in case i WAS lying..but still frusrating as hell. That pregnancy had a ton of issue's after that and he was born with autism. And now we have a whole new mess of issue's within the school system's and medical procedure's. School want's me to medicate him (It's easier to take care of mindless zombied children?) But I won't medicate him..I love him how he is- His mind is perfect and so beautiful. I see positive and they see negative.
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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Please provide referential proof that the jewish people specifically (Sephardic or otherwise) are (or ever were) the 'chosen ones'. I've never seen that in scriptures.

You seem to imply here, that they're above reproach for some mysterious reason. You seem to believe that they ~cannot possibly be the "demon seed".

Do you also believe that the scriptures were all written by jewish people? (Not transcribed or copied, but actually originally written by ~jewish people).

Btw, I've reasons to believe Rh-'s are indeed hybrids (ie, descendants of Neanderthals), but weren't bred with supernatural or mythical beings. That's pure fantasy, wishful thinking (or, figurative / metaphorical language / speech). Instead, they were bred with real mammals (primates), not Human.

DNA science has already proven it, but it's being covered up by the Media and others, for obvious reasons.
 Quoting: shenandoah 2636202


As I am intensely interested in the origins of rh negative blood, I would be so thankful if you would point me to the evidence that science has proven the rh negative bloodline was a result of humans mating with primates.

As far as my ancestors go....I wouldn't put anything past them..........
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THE PRODUCTION OF ANTI-HUMAN GLOBULIN
SERUM (COOMBS REAGENT) IN GOATS
BY
I. DUNSFORD AND C. C. BOWLEY
From the National Blood Transfusion Service, Northfield Road, Crookes, Sheffield
(RECEIVED FOR PUBLICATION MARCH 8, 1956)
The rabbit is customarily used for the preparation
of anti-human globulin serum, but there are
several objections to the choice of this animal.
These are: (1) The volume of serum obtained is
small. To maintain supplies it is necessary either
to have several animals producing the reagent, or
to hyperimmunize and bleed the rabbits used too
frequently, which in turn results in a less specific
reagent. (2) The rabbit is prone to myxomatosis.
This note reports the preparation of the reagent
in the goat. The procedure has the following
advantages over preparation in rabbits: (1) It
yields larger volumes of serum. (2) The goat is not
prone to infection with myxomatosis. (3) The
immunizing and bleeding operations are simpler
and quicker. (4) For the laboratory using or distributing
large quantities of the reagent feeding
and housing a goat is less costly than keeping 20
or 30 rabbits.
Method
Sterile group 0 serum, 5 ml., was injected intramuscularly
(gluteal muscles) every three to four days
to a total of 10 injections.
Ten days after the last injection 10-20 ml. blood
was withdrawn from the leg vein.
After heating the serum at 56° C. for 30 minutes
(to inactivate complement) the serum was titrated in
parallel against red cells sensitized with an incomplete
anti-D and against unsensitized cells.
Provided that the titre against the sensitized cells
was at least 20 times as great as that against the
non-sensitized cells, the goat was bled from the external
jugular vein for 400 to 500 ml. The hair of the
neck was closely clipped and a long (20 cm.) largebore
needle (3 mm. external diameter) used. The
blood was allowed to run straight from the needle
into a sterile bottle.
After clotting the serum was separated with aseptic
precautions. Following inactivation of the complement
as before, the anti-human agglutinins were removed
by absorption with well-washed A, B, and 0
cells as for rabbit anti-human globulin serum.
The goat anti-human globulin serum was standardized
in the...

I couldn't copy the link, so posted part of the paper here. Also, [link to en.wikipedia.org]

A Coombs reagent (aka "anti-Human serum") was manufactured from the blood of Rhesus monkeys, back in the 1940's, when scientists were trying to understand why a particular anonymous couple kept giving birth to stillborns.

The mother's blood (like all Rhesus negatives) did NOT "agglutinate" (or, clump; coagulate, curdle, etc.) when introduced to the serum made from the monkey blood.

However, her husband's blood DID agglutinate when in contact w/ the Coomb's reagent (which is still used for testing blood samples for the 'Rhesus factor').

Therefore, Rhesus negatives' blood is compatible w/ monkey blood, while Rhesus positives are not.

It is not the fault of Rhesus positive people, that the scientists at first erroneously reported the woman's husband, instead of the Rh- woman herself, as the one whose blood was compatible with the "Anti-Human" serum. In fact, it seems to have been some sort of mis-communication. Because the fact is that it is Rh negative blood, which is compatible (doesn't agglutinate) in the testing serum (made from Rhesus monkey blood).

Blood products from Rhesus monkeys are (or were) incubated in rabbits, goats, or other lab animals, in order to produce the Anti-D (aka "Anti-Human" serum). "D" is the factor found in Rhesus positive people.

There are many websites which point out that fact. Here's one, but I've also seen it stated on the AMA / Red Cross sites.
[link to www.ginkgo-web.de]

As for not putting your ancestors past it, remember: Humanity has been forced to survive climatic cataclysms which have cause severe bottlenecking of our species.

Human beings are intelligent enough to survive such things, but also enough to get ourselves into lots of trouble.

Also, take a good look at the temple frescoes in Northern India: the "Monkey Armies". Those aren't totally mythic, there's a lot of truth behind it. They were agriculturalists, who prided themselves on their ability to create hybrid crops and animals too (cattle, etc.).

Around the same time that the Vedic agriculturalists were experimenting with breeding, they also introduced the caste systems, monarchies, and slavery to their societies.

Even today, certain people are talking about creating a slave race of hybrids (Human x Chimpanzee). However, whether they realize it or not -- it's already been done.

And the only way to do it, is to breed a female Human with a male lower primate (certain monkeys or apes).
 Quoting: shenandoah 2636202


Well - there you have it folks.....it's US that are the monkey bloods!
laugh
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*passes out banana's to all*
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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Rh positive here, both parents positive. I have very red hair, a blue eye and a green eye, sun sensitivity and pale skin, and freckles.

In fact, here's what applies to me from this list.

• Most have stronger Immune systems.
• Most have Autoimmune Conditions and the HLA-B27 genetic marker.
• Most have fair skin and light eyed, in response to having Melanin imbalances and Vit. D Deficiencies
• Most process CO2 more efficiently
• Most tend to have Iron/Copper imbalances
• Missing the RhD protein that acts as a barrier on the red blood cells.
• Pregnancy issues and complications with the clashing of blood type within the fetus.

• A feeling of not belonging
• Truth seekers
• Sense of a "Mission" in life
• Empathy & Compassion for Mankind
• An extra rib or vertebra. No, but my o+ grandmother has an extra vertebra
• Higher than average IQ
• ESP Ability
• Love of Space & Science
• More sensitive vision & other senses.
• Increased of psychic/intuitive abilities
• Cannot be cloned
• Lower body temperature
• Higher blood pressure (some say lower either way one extreme to another never quite right)
• Predominantly blue, green, or Hazel eyes
• Red or reddish tint to hair color
• Increased sensitivity to heat & sunlight
• Unexplained Scares
• Piercing Eyes
• Tend to be Healers
• Empathetic Illnesses
• Ability to disrupt electrical devices
• Prone to Alien Abductions
• Experience unexplained phenomenon
• Physic Dreams and/or Ability
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Hello OP, thank you for this. I'm in the rabbit hole like you, and I'm o-. I wish I could have conversation w you outside this forum, because I have some "private2 experiences that I don't reallt want to share publicly. however,pls tell me - of all the possible theories - where do you land? until now I feel like I'm in between different ones and doubting all of them.....
I have eyes that change their colour...is that something mentioned in connection w this?
Thank you.
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If you would like to discuss things more privately I have an email account just for glp, I would love to hear your experiences and share my own!
Aiyannanaki@yahoo.com
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Oh and forgot to answer you're question's! The eye color thing In a group of negatives on a website i have found (members that say they are -) 85% out of the 4,000 and something member's have eye's that change color. Im really unsure what causes that even in normal circumstances..But i Have brown eyes that change to hazel often..and have even went to bright gold on a few rare occasions in my life. Very odd but it was very neat! As far as theories goes I remain neutral in my opinion's on the theories (mainly bc of my lack of 'structured' belief system) But if you throw in the ancient legends and scrolls (etc..) some of these theories actually make sense. Im working on some now.
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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HAHA still no hate from me love! To address the Genetic marker test, I asked for it [peace of mind] and He wasn't willing to take cash. First instinct was to pull out the wad..lol. I fail. But i have contacted another doctor that says he will do it and get back to me for an appointment mid summer. As for the A.S I have some of the signs, other then that i wouldn't know or not. But even tho i have some of the sign's he has no reason to believe i have it. Seems like it just doesn't matter to him anyway. Wish he would have just checked for peace of mind. But i fail again, lol.

As for the genetic marker, my main target with that is to see if I have it bc of some of the theories i have heard, if i have it [[or let's say my lineage does]] Some theories will ring true for me. (serious of personal beliefs and a mission within myself)
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Huh. I've been led to believe that you can get anything in the American medical system for $$$. I've only heard of the horror stories of those who've suffered from the lack of insurance or funds.

Peace of mind... I get it.
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HAHA still no hate from me love! To address the Genetic marker test, I asked for it [peace of mind] and He wasn't willing to take cash. First instinct was to pull out the wad..lol. I fail. But i have contacted another doctor that says he will do it and get back to me for an appointment mid summer. As for the A.S I have some of the signs, other then that i wouldn't know or not. But even tho i have some of the sign's he has no reason to believe i have it. Seems like it just doesn't matter to him anyway. Wish he would have just checked for peace of mind. But i fail again, lol.

As for the genetic marker, my main target with that is to see if I have it bc of some of the theories i have heard, if i have it [[or let's say my lineage does]] Some theories will ring true for me. (serious of personal beliefs and a mission within myself)
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Huh. I've been led to believe that you can get anything in the American medical system for $$$. I've only heard of the horror stories of those who've suffered from the lack of insurance or funds.

Peace of mind... I get it.
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Yes, I would assume so to. But he seem's the type to be to busy to even see his patient's. Probably has enough money or something who know's. lol
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when all the waters are polluted,
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You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
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Oh and forgot to answer you're question's! The eye color thing In a group of negatives on a website i have found (members that say they are -) 85% out of the 4,000 and something member's have eye's that change color. Im really unsure what causes that even in normal circumstances..But i Have brown eyes that change to hazel often..and have even went to bright gold on a few rare occasions in my life. Very odd but it was very neat! As far as theories goes I remain neutral in my opinion's on the theories (mainly bc of my lack of 'structured' belief system) But if you throw in the ancient legends and scrolls (etc..) some of these theories actually make sense. Im working on some now.
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I believe that if you asked the same question in a group comprised of positives and negatives, you'd get about the same result. Take a look at pictures of anyone taken throughout a lifetime and you will notice eye colour changes. Notice your friends' eyes without considering blood type. My pseudoscientific, completely unproven theory is that eye colour changes with sun exposure, just like a tan in the skin, due to uv exposure in the melanin. You have different levels of melanin which determine your skin colour and your eye colour. Ergo, your eyes can tan just like your skin. <3 pseudoscience when it's not presented as fact.
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I know my eyes sometimes both look almost the same colour and sometimes one is really olive green and the other is crystal blue. Seems to depend on my mood too, totally.
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Sorry, that was Joshua Flynn (not "Joseph") I responded to above.

And yes Joshua, I realize there are typos in my post (I'm on time restraints here, at the public library).

Getting back on topic, I'm not sure what my percentage is, but it looks like I share most of the traits at least to some extent.

Also, although I believe "alien abductions" are actually demon oppression (a spiritual, or in some cases a psychic or even psychological or emotional matter) -- I've experienced a visitation of an angel during a "vision" (while in a prayerful, meditative trance state).

The angelic experience is far different from the "alien abduction" types of experiences. Lots more pleasant, for one thing. In fact it's quite healing, heals the heart and soul.

As for unusual experiences, I once saw a huge (size of a full moon) ball of orange fire glide across the sky at night while camping in a wilderness area of Florida. It looked like what is described as a "bright meteor", but strangely had no tail. Very beautiful, and some of my very skeptical companions couldn't believe me when I related it to them the following morning (thankfully one did believe me, however -- my best friend). I barely made one statement about it, before the others started whining that it was too incredible for them to believe.

Also, my then boyfriend and I had a very close encounter with a strange light in the Ocala National Forest, which I later learned others had also seen. That thing was frightening, as was in the habit of stalking cars as they drove down the highway. Unless you were very lucky, you might not have even realized that it was there.

So when my bf pulled over to watch it park in the air beside our car -- I tried to hide under the dashboard and begged him to get us the hell out of there.

His sister was Rh- btw... Gotta go now.
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Hmm..when you get back- This 'stalking strange lights' thing..I'm assuming it was a UFO? Either way...I have a story just like that. It was strange lights (not sure what it was) but the fucker damn near come down just a few feet from the hood of the car. (take about hiding under the dashboard) we WERE ALL hiding! I would have got under the vehicle's carpet if possible at that point. LOL. To this day we all laugh at the nightmare we 'lived' through (lol)and still not sure what it was, but it was silent and hovering. From the underneath point of veiw, it was quite the episode.

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When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

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You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
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Re: I'm SICK of the RH Negative thread SLANDER.
Are you sure you're not Rh-? Isn't that a "trait" that Rh- share, wounds that heal "quickly"?
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6 hours is not a rapid healing time. And that was only the clotting of the blood. I had a skull fracture, so bone regeneration time would have been within weeks.

You seem to be seeing something there that I don't. I said the hospital service was so slow (and thus useless) that I healed due to the amount of time that passed.

A+. I can show you the card with it written on too if I still have it to hand. That was a joke! I'm sorry you had a bad experience, however I still believe that not all doctors are idiots and inferior to your Google-fu.

Huh? It tests for a protein. It is either there or not. You can do the test yourself at home, in fact! Mix your blood with known Rh+ blood. Does it clump?
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You seem to be merging a number of concepts to form one general concept that is ignorant of the specifics. Either or fallacy.

There's a term (look it up) called 'weakly typed D', because, yes, they test for a marker, but just like any other blood test, there is a specific amount. In the same way there can be 'too much B12' and 'too little B12', there's an amount (because genetics aren't black and white, and you should know that).

I would demand proof that it's as black and white as you're claiming (because I've already given an example that blood tests work by amount: Iron, B12, electrolytes, glucose, and surprise - protein!). The tests you mentioned test levels in the blood, yes. However, it is your genes that determine your blood type by determining what proteins make up your blood. You can't be weakly A or kinda HIV positive.

The clump test would be fallacious because it relies on the body (and not the blood) having made anti-bodies (which have to be generated by the glands in the body) in reaction to the blood, so if you were to insert Rh negative blood into Rh positive blood, the anti-bodies likely wouldn't be present as it hasn't been introduced to the body specifically (which is why the first baby in Rh disease is relatively safe - no anti-bodies).You're right. My bad.

However, you're not testing for the presence of an anti-body (and thus clumping via white cells attaching to the foriegn red cells), but the amount of a specific protein - one could say there's 'a lot' or 'a little' but what about those who have it where there is 'some' - Rh negative or Rh positive? Too much blood sugar, or too little? So an anti-body test would be flawed (and you don't want to inject it directly into the body as that is dangerous and would cause complications in females).


Remember how white cells work. Generally speaking, foreign bodies, marker cells, marker cells attach to/identify foreign body, other white cells attack. No marker cells, no white cells attack.

This goes for every single person out there, regardless of blood type: You are your own best physician. You know your body best. They are there to help you in times of illness and for preventative care, not to tell you why you are the way you are. They are also only human. Also, I don't live in the States, so my health care is different. Maybe the doctors there really don't care, I suppose that's what happens when health care is a for-profit business. Hrm, actually I think Joshua may have been from the UK. I'm not sure what the system is like there. Anywho, long story short(er) - I suspect most doctors truly do want to help you, but they can only do so much. They're not like House, where he can just sit around all day and deduce what could possibly be wrong with this one patient. They can't help when your symptoms aren't physical. They can't help when not in their field of expertise.
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Despite beating the pro-doctor drum, my skull fracture, I most assure you was physical, and waiting 6 hours before treatment (would you leave a stab wound for 6 hours? One quarter of a day.) means it wasn't in my best interests.

They are supposed to be trained, but instead, I, a member of the public, who only does some part-time googling, the 'armchair researcher', so to speak, am better informed than someone who spend years studying? How does that work? What did they do for all those years? How arrogant of you! I like it!

I have a skull fracture. It's only one of two things - it's either very serious, and needs to be seen to ASAP, or it only needs minor treatment and I can go home - rather than sitting around in a dingy waiting room for 6 hours potentially catching some other disease.

The for-profit system in the US is far worse, because they are more likely to scam you for cash. Here, it's bad for the opposite but same reason, they will more likely fob you off with 'no need to worry! Your head's just bleeding.' in order to save cash.


If I, a student who failed his degree, scrapped grades at school and breaks stuff, am more competent than a 40 year old man who sits in a medical practice in regards to medicine (I had explained why there was no need to test for diabetes - I didn't drink that much water. The test confirmed my glucose levels were normal.), they have well and truly muffed up. You should really try working with your doctor instead of belittling him. Would you be so arrogant with a contractor when discussing the hidden foundational structure of your house? Or would you share information and respect both his expertise and your insider knowledge of your house? Or maybe you should just find another doctor. I, for one, wouldn't visit an armchair surgeon, no matter how much she thought she knew about everything.

I fail to see the difference between Rh- Power and White Power. They are both meant to separate one group from the "inferior" group by "keeping the blood pure".
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No, you're just getting the wrong end of the stick here. And that social inexperience showing again, and I'll explain why. Firstly, there's a logical reason for Rh negative women to have Rh negative men - it reduces the number of potential miscarriages due to the potential anti-body reaction and the blood clumping, as you said. The baby is a living being too, don't forget that. So does the shot.

Secondly, this isn't what's being advocated (everyone is getting riled and ruffled feathers), there's no 'purist' element. I'm sorry, did you miss the Rh- bloodline icon at the end of the OP?

As for the social inexperience? People who fall in love will cross many boundaries when doing so. Actually, statistically speaking, assuming neither person knows their bloodtype, there would be no reason to suspect that an (unaware) Rh negative person would favour an Rh negative person over an Rh positive person (assuming all people involved were ignorant and had similar lifestyles etc). Again, that's why they made the shot. You know, the evil medical establishment. There would be no favouritism if it weren't for these campaigns to keep the bloodline pure.

In terms for love crossing boundaries, it's why you have -/+ hybrids. From my understanding, Rh negatives seem to fall in love with just as many Rh positives as Rh negatives.Yep, demonstrating that the differences really aren't that great, huh?

I've seen it with every single group of humans that I've come across, from book clubs to street gangs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946


Herd behaviour. I have no group to associate with. You won't be able to get people to stop acting like it though, because it's how group cohesion is maintained.

I'm the one who suggested a better list and has been working with you to compile it, so how have "you been left holding it so to speak"?
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Ayianna mentioned about compiling a list a number of pages earlier, which I did attempt to construct using information I know was supported at least in reference and also anecdotally, but it completely scraps, rather than expands upon, the version originally stated. Alright, I see. My apologies.

My entire point was that they are like me, that one missing protein doesn't make us entirely different beings and doesn't correlate with all the "traits" presented in the OP.
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I have always reasoned this, but you're going a bit far with it. I think lists such as those provoke jealousy and the like from those not deemed on the 'in-group'. How am I going too far with it?

igh, I have a feeling I'm going back to being hated in this thread...
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You're not inferior, and you're not hated. If anything, I see a lot of myself in you. hf
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You two play nice! cheers Kiss and make up..We are on a mission here..Don't forget the mission!!grouphug
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~

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