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Message Subject I'm SICK of the RH Negative thread SLANDER.
Poster Handle Aiyannanaki
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I cracked my head open on concrete when I was about 7. I had been bleeding profusely (it stained the settee). I waited 6 hours in A&E. It had pretty much sealed/healed up (it was practically dry) by the time I got seen too. I apparently would have needed stitches (but they took too long to see me). All I got was some glue in my hair (supposedly to help?), it stuck all my hair together, and was a nightmare to wash out.
 Quoting: Joshua Flynn 12678181


Are you sure you're not Rh-? Isn't that a "trait" that Rh- share, wounds that heal "quickly"?

The only exception, was getting my bloodtype. But for all I know, that could be wrong too (especially given the Rh factor is based on a percentage and people who walk the line can either be Rh positive or Rh negative depending on the sensitivity of the test).
 Quoting: Joshua Flynn 12678181


Huh? It tests for a protein. It is either there or not. You can do the test yourself at home, in fact! Mix your blood with known Rh+ blood. Does it clump?


Wow! The sex drive thing caught me eye. Before I got married, I wondered if I was actually a lesbian because I couldn't get turned on by many men (I wasn't attracted to other women though). Even if they were handsome and smart, I felt nothing. Then I met my husband and we went at it like a couple of rabbits. He was the same way. We've been married for 33 years (today :), and I'm still turned on by him.
 Quoting: INK1


Ditto. Of course, that goes for just about every other person I know except my best friend who is a total player. Also, hehe, "like a couple of rabbits". Hopefully someone who knows the history of the discovery of the rhesus factor will find that as funny as I do.

I'm troubled by doctors (or GPs) because I find my own self-diagnosis to be far more accurate. Often, the doctors look stumped when I explain specific symptoms and then reason why it can't be one common illness or another. Either they run tests that confirm exactly what I was saying, or they just go, 'I don't know'. I'm troubled that these are supposed to be the medical experts.
 Quoting: Joshua Flynn 12678181


This goes for every single person out there, regardless of blood type: You are your own best physician. You know your body best. They are there to help you in times of illness and for preventative care, not to tell you why you are the way you are. They are also only human. Also, I don't live in the States, so my health care is different. Maybe the doctors there really don't care, I suppose that's what happens when health care is a for-profit business. Hrm, actually I think Joshua may have been from the UK. I'm not sure what the system is like there. Anywho, long story short(er) - I suspect most doctors truly do want to help you, but they can only do so much. They're not like House, where he can just sit around all day and deduce what could possibly be wrong with this one patient. They can't help when your symptoms aren't physical. They can't help when not in their field of expertise.

very good point, and i've experienced the same..I work in the medical field (hemodialysis). But it seems that my experiences with the doctor's diagnosis or advice seems to hurt me further or not help at all. I'm trying currently to abtain a test to see if i have the HLA-B27 genetic marker. I have reasons to believe my grandmother was suffering from A.S. (she isn't around anymore and i was young) Not only is the doctor throwing rock's, but he keeps blaming to insurance policy. *sigh*
 Quoting: Aiyannanaki


I suspect that my grandmother had scleroderma. I suspect it would have killed her if she hadn't killed herself first to escape the pain. But I'll never know. Do you have symptoms of AS? If it's suspected, then I don't understand why they wouldn't do blood tests for it. But, again, HLA-B27 is not specific to AS or indicative of it. It just means you have a gene that is thought to be associated with the development of it. So, what do you hope to gain from getting the costly test? Is it medically indicated? Is it just for your peace of mind? If so, then don't go through insurance. If you need to know if you have this gene (which, by the way is on chromosome 6, while the Rhesus genes are located on chromosome 1) for your own peace of mind, then I'm sure someone will do the test if you wave cash at them.

Ok, great start. Perhaps we should separate them into verifiable, measurable traits and subjective traits next. Like, physical characteristics (ie hair colour) and psychological characteristics (ie higher IQ) and subjective experiences (ie psychic experiences). I would do it right now, but I have to get out for my walk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946


I believe this is the best idea! and along the way we should try to find the best reliable source or link to back it up, or attempt to give a good standing on why this is possible. Off to a great start!
 Quoting: Aiyannanaki


I don't think that the questionnaire is going to be very useful if you use it for the sole purpose of gathering evidence to fit your the-o-ry. See definition of pseudoscience.

This goes for A LOT we have been taught, not just everything about anything except blood type..
 Quoting: Aiyannanaki


I apply to even what I've been taught. No theory too absurd so long as it fits the facts.

I believe Joshua covered the whole "fact" vs "not fact" very nicely. Are they really FACTS? Have there been actual studies that are publicly available?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946


Keep calm dude. You're going at this with aggression (even if you don't think it is, it's giving that impression), you only need to reason, and Aiyanna understands the point. There's already been some effort on constructing a better supported list (although I seem to have been left holding it so to speak).

I've addressed the other points you've brought up. Calm; the correct response to any division is not beratement or aggression, but reconciliation.

Demonstrate, don't lecture. Here's an Rh positive, they are like you, we're not so different.
 Quoting: Joshua Flynn 12678181


I fail to see the difference between Rh- Power and White Power. They are both meant to separate one group from the "inferior" group by "keeping the blood pure". It riles me up. I don't get it. I do get trying to understand yourself and why you are the way you are, and I get feeling oppressed and wanting to identify with a group. Strength in numbers and all that. So, I guess I do get where it comes from and why these beliefs are so strong that they form their own logic. I've seen it with every single group of humans that I've come across, from book clubs to street gangs. I'm the one who suggested a better list and has been working with you to compile it, so how have "you been left holding it so to speak"? However, I'm starting to think that passing around such a list will do more harm than good, for the simple reason that it is not designed for inquiry, but for reinforcing these beliefs.

My entire point was that they are like me, that one missing protein doesn't make us entirely different beings and doesn't correlate with all the "traits" presented in the OP. Sigh, I have a feeling I'm going back to being hated in this thread...
 Quoting: Aiyannanaki


HAHA still no hate from me love! To address the Genetic marker test, I asked for it [peace of mind] and He wasn't willing to take cash. First instinct was to pull out the wad..lol. I fail. But i have contacted another doctor that says he will do it and get back to me for an appointment mid summer. As for the A.S I have some of the signs, other then that i wouldn't know or not. But even tho i have some of the sign's he has no reason to believe i have it. Seems like it just doesn't matter to him anyway. Wish he would have just checked for peace of mind. But i fail again, lol.

As for the genetic marker, my main target with that is to see if I have it bc of some of the theories i have heard, if i have it [[or let's say my lineage does]] Some theories will ring true for me. (series of personal beliefs and a mission within myself)
 
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