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Message Subject I'm SICK of the RH Negative thread SLANDER.
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Are you sure you're not Rh-? Isn't that a "trait" that Rh- share, wounds that heal "quickly"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946


6 hours is not a rapid healing time. And that was only the clotting of the blood. I had a skull fracture, so bone regeneration time would have been within weeks.

You seem to be seeing something there that I don't. I said the hospital service was so slow (and thus useless) that I healed due to the amount of time that passed.

A+. I can show you the card with it written on too if I still have it to hand. That was a joke! I'm sorry you had a bad experience, however I still believe that not all doctors are idiots and inferior to your Google-fu.

Huh? It tests for a protein. It is either there or not. You can do the test yourself at home, in fact! Mix your blood with known Rh+ blood. Does it clump?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946


You seem to be merging a number of concepts to form one general concept that is ignorant of the specifics. Either or fallacy.

There's a term (look it up) called 'weakly typed D', because, yes, they test for a marker, but just like any other blood test, there is a specific amount. In the same way there can be 'too much B12' and 'too little B12', there's an amount (because genetics aren't black and white, and you should know that).

I would demand proof that it's as black and white as you're claiming (because I've already given an example that blood tests work by amount: Iron, B12, electrolytes, glucose, and surprise - protein!). The tests you mentioned test levels in the blood, yes. However, it is your genes that determine your blood type by determining what proteins make up your blood. You can't be weakly A or kinda HIV positive.

The clump test would be fallacious because it relies on the body (and not the blood) having made anti-bodies (which have to be generated by the glands in the body) in reaction to the blood, so if you were to insert Rh negative blood into Rh positive blood, the anti-bodies likely wouldn't be present as it hasn't been introduced to the body specifically (which is why the first baby in Rh disease is relatively safe - no anti-bodies).You're right. My bad.

However, you're not testing for the presence of an anti-body (and thus clumping via white cells attaching to the foriegn red cells), but the amount of a specific protein - one could say there's 'a lot' or 'a little' but what about those who have it where there is 'some' - Rh negative or Rh positive? Too much blood sugar, or too little? So an anti-body test would be flawed (and you don't want to inject it directly into the body as that is dangerous and would cause complications in females).


Remember how white cells work. Generally speaking, foreign bodies, marker cells, marker cells attach to/identify foreign body, other white cells attack. No marker cells, no white cells attack.

This goes for every single person out there, regardless of blood type: You are your own best physician. You know your body best. They are there to help you in times of illness and for preventative care, not to tell you why you are the way you are. They are also only human. Also, I don't live in the States, so my health care is different. Maybe the doctors there really don't care, I suppose that's what happens when health care is a for-profit business. Hrm, actually I think Joshua may have been from the UK. I'm not sure what the system is like there. Anywho, long story short(er) - I suspect most doctors truly do want to help you, but they can only do so much. They're not like House, where he can just sit around all day and deduce what could possibly be wrong with this one patient. They can't help when your symptoms aren't physical. They can't help when not in their field of expertise.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946


Despite beating the pro-doctor drum, my skull fracture, I most assure you was physical, and waiting 6 hours before treatment (would you leave a stab wound for 6 hours? One quarter of a day.) means it wasn't in my best interests.

They are supposed to be trained, but instead, I, a member of the public, who only does some part-time googling, the 'armchair researcher', so to speak, am better informed than someone who spend years studying? How does that work? What did they do for all those years? How arrogant of you! I like it!

I have a skull fracture. It's only one of two things - it's either very serious, and needs to be seen to ASAP, or it only needs minor treatment and I can go home - rather than sitting around in a dingy waiting room for 6 hours potentially catching some other disease.

The for-profit system in the US is far worse, because they are more likely to scam you for cash. Here, it's bad for the opposite but same reason, they will more likely fob you off with 'no need to worry! Your head's just bleeding.' in order to save cash.


If I, a student who failed his degree, scrapped grades at school and breaks stuff, am more competent than a 40 year old man who sits in a medical practice in regards to medicine (I had explained why there was no need to test for diabetes - I didn't drink that much water. The test confirmed my glucose levels were normal.), they have well and truly muffed up. You should really try working with your doctor instead of belittling him. Would you be so arrogant with a contractor when discussing the hidden foundational structure of your house? Or would you share information and respect both his expertise and your insider knowledge of your house? Or maybe you should just find another doctor. I, for one, wouldn't visit an armchair surgeon, no matter how much she thought she knew about everything.

I fail to see the difference between Rh- Power and White Power. They are both meant to separate one group from the "inferior" group by "keeping the blood pure".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946


No, you're just getting the wrong end of the stick here. And that social inexperience showing again, and I'll explain why. Firstly, there's a logical reason for Rh negative women to have Rh negative men - it reduces the number of potential miscarriages due to the potential anti-body reaction and the blood clumping, as you said. The baby is a living being too, don't forget that. So does the shot.

Secondly, this isn't what's being advocated (everyone is getting riled and ruffled feathers), there's no 'purist' element. I'm sorry, did you miss the Rh- bloodline icon at the end of the OP?

As for the social inexperience? People who fall in love will cross many boundaries when doing so. Actually, statistically speaking, assuming neither person knows their bloodtype, there would be no reason to suspect that an (unaware) Rh negative person would favour an Rh negative person over an Rh positive person (assuming all people involved were ignorant and had similar lifestyles etc). Again, that's why they made the shot. You know, the evil medical establishment. There would be no favouritism if it weren't for these campaigns to keep the bloodline pure.

In terms for love crossing boundaries, it's why you have -/+ hybrids. From my understanding, Rh negatives seem to fall in love with just as many Rh positives as Rh negatives.Yep, demonstrating that the differences really aren't that great, huh?

I've seen it with every single group of humans that I've come across, from book clubs to street gangs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946


Herd behaviour. I have no group to associate with. You won't be able to get people to stop acting like it though, because it's how group cohesion is maintained.

I'm the one who suggested a better list and has been working with you to compile it, so how have "you been left holding it so to speak"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946


Ayianna mentioned about compiling a list a number of pages earlier, which I did attempt to construct using information I know was supported at least in reference and also anecdotally, but it completely scraps, rather than expands upon, the version originally stated. Alright, I see. My apologies.

My entire point was that they are like me, that one missing protein doesn't make us entirely different beings and doesn't correlate with all the "traits" presented in the OP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946



I have always reasoned this, but you're going a bit far with it. I think lists such as those provoke jealousy and the like from those not deemed on the 'in-group'. How am I going too far with it?

igh, I have a feeling I'm going back to being hated in this thread...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946


You're not inferior, and you're not hated. If anything, I see a lot of myself in you. hf
 Quoting: Joshua Flynn 12736331

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946


You two play nice! cheers Kiss and make up..We are on a mission here..Don't forget the mission!!grouphug
 
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