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If someone commits suicide, are they reincarnated into a life which is more harder and worse than the previous one?

 
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Anyone who claims to know what happens after you die regardless of how you die is a pathological liar.

So OP, who knows man. Just don't find out. Stay alive.
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Another good point
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You put rules = evil

No just choice and consequence-cause and effect, it has nothing to do with rules. There is however consequence to actions/choices, this is balance and how you learn or not in most peoples cases and they just repeat/repeat/repeat never taking responsibility for what actions or choices they make.

Just because you choose not to beleive something doesn't mean it is not so-this is a choice.
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I agree.
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there is no reincarnation, your body just die, your cells stop working, your gut stop digesting, your brain stop receiving and sending messages, there's nothing more.
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Your body may die but your soul lives on, i have experienced this first hand. annoys the shit out of me when people state their "beliefs" as facts!
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It is not torture or evil it is the way of the universe/life, is just the way it is.

The reason you don't remember is not because your free will has been taken away, this is bullshit. It is to give you a clean slate, so you can make your choices based on free will, not old choices that you did before. If you could remember you would spend all your time looking for loved one you lost, you would never move forward because you would be constantly looking back.

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I think the reason we don't remember is because memories and thought processes are physical actions. We cannot access memories that were formed in a different physical body.

Our soul remembers. And some individuals who are tuned into the soul realm can access their memories from past lives.
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ny one can go within their deep memory banks and access there own memories. Many choose not too. The knowldge you gain from each life you always retain although at the surface you do not remember. why do you think some people are more intelligent and have more knowledge-why do some have little?

This is not judging anyone as some posts have put. Knowldge is knowledge nothing more.
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Nobody knows. And knowbody knows the pain and anguish that caused that person to kill themself. And nobody here is in a place to judge them.

Nobody.
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I agree. And many suicides are valid. However, most are to hurt those left behind.
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What if the person has been wrongly convicted and is sentenced for life in prison? The person goes through emotional and physical torture throughout his time.

Is suicide justifiable then?

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there is no reincarnation, your body just die, your cells stop working, your gut stop digesting, your brain stop receiving and sending messages, there's nothing more.
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Your body may die but your soul lives on, i have experienced this first hand. annoys the shit out of me when people state their "beliefs" as facts!
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Yes,
Our beliefs are most always conditioned by upbringing and social systems.
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Nobody knows. And knowbody knows the pain and anguish that caused that person to kill themself. And nobody here is in a place to judge them.

Nobody.
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Good point
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The same can be said for those left behind.


It's not a solution.

But to answer your question, I'm beginning to think they are.

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there is no reincarnation, your body just die, your cells stop working, your gut stop digesting, your brain stop receiving and sending messages, there's nothing more.
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Your body may die but your soul lives on, i have experienced this first hand. annoys the shit out of me when people state their "beliefs" as facts!
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you don't need to read them or believe them, nobody is forcing them down to your throat.
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Nobody knows. And knowbody knows the pain and anguish that caused that person to kill themself. And nobody here is in a place to judge them.

Nobody.
 Quoting: Celia D.


I agree. And many suicides are valid. However, most are to hurt those left behind.
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What if the person has been wrongly convicted and is sentenced for life in prison? The person goes through emotional and physical torture throughout his time.

Is suicide justifiable then?

billgates
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NO,,,That is part of their test.

Samuri or jumping on a grenade to protect others...that is what I meant....but, know one knows but that person what their reasons are.
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Anyone who claims to know what happens after you die regardless of how you die is a pathological liar.

So OP, who knows man. Just don't find out. Stay alive.
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What about those that have died and been revived?
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Nobody knows. And knowbody knows the pain and anguish that caused that person to kill themself. And nobody here is in a place to judge them.

Nobody.
 Quoting: Celia D.


I agree. And many suicides are valid. However, most are to hurt those left behind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11719613


What if the person has been wrongly convicted and is sentenced for life in prison? The person goes through emotional and physical torture throughout his time.

Is suicide justifiable then?

billgates
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I say that would depend on what the souls purpose was on this incarnation, but they may never find the answer to that question. Im sure if their was extreme hardship to that extent suicide could be justified, but i'm sure you would still have to fulfill the mission after you died.
But in saying that no one can know for certain, i would personally rather try my hardest to stick it out than reincarnate and repeat it again....
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Anyone who claims to know what happens after you die regardless of how you die is a pathological liar.

So OP, who knows man. Just don't find out. Stay alive.
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Another good point
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Just because you don't have the knowledge or unsure doesn't mean others don't have this knowledge. Many people do have this knowldge those who question are seeking that knowldge and will find out there truth in the end.

No matter how much knowledge is out in front of you, you can still choose not to listen, you could be given the secrets of the universe , however if you are not ready or evolved enough to understand, this knowldge will pass you by. All is choice.
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It is not torture or evil it is the way of the universe/life, is just the way it is.

The reason you don't remember is not because your free will has been taken away, this is bullshit. It is to give you a clean slate, so you can make your choices based on free will, not old choices that you did before. If you could remember you would spend all your time looking for loved one you lost, you would never move forward because you would be constantly looking back.

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I think the reason we don't remember is because memories and thought processes are physical actions. We cannot access memories that were formed in a different physical body.

Our soul remembers. And some individuals who are tuned into the soul realm can access their memories from past lives.
 Quoting: Lumen


ny one can go within their deep memory banks and access there own memories. Many choose not too.
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Exactly.
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Well maybe we reincarnate right where we left off, eh? If planet earth is a living entity and we are here to enjoy free will -- then wouldn't suicide be part of that free will? And (just follow along with me here, please) should we decide that 'enough was enough,' which could be for a variety of reasons: radiation poisioning (Japan)or post WWII such as Germany etc., or terminally ill without friends, family, money or care, then wouldn't that same free will come into play as part of the choice we are given to decide to live or die.

I've often wondered what of the brave nurses and doctors in terminally ill situations where they might give a little extra morphine to ease someone's pain and the patient just slips on out of here. For fact: this is done regularly and without much thought to it. Or the family member who ensures that his parent or her loved one is given the same or extra bit of dosage to do the same thing.

Wonder too about Europe, I think Denmark where assisted suicide is legal. Don't we have that same option --- not necessarily as US citizens but as a freedom of choice?

Thesed are mighty and weighted questions. Most probably in the next 40 years we will be forced to really examine this subject in the USA.

(Native Americans went off somewhere to die as they neared the end of life. Older cultures in the world did something quite similar. These are choices?)

Sounds actually quite logical to be.

Thank you for reading this.
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there is no reincarnation, your body just die, your cells stop working, your gut stop digesting, your brain stop receiving and sending messages, there's nothing more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1451276


Your body may die but your soul lives on, i have experienced this first hand. annoys the shit out of me when people state their "beliefs" as facts!
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you don't need to read them or believe them, nobody is forcing them down to your throat.
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i know but, you stated

"there's nothing more"

As if you know...
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Nobody knows. And knowbody knows the pain and anguish that caused that person to kill themself. And nobody here is in a place to judge them.

Nobody.
 Quoting: Celia D.


Good point
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The same can be said for those left behind.


It's not a solution.
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We are all eventually "left behind", suicide or natural death. We all die. Everyone we've ever known will die.
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Anyone who claims to know what happens after you die regardless of how you die is a pathological liar.

So OP, who knows man. Just don't find out. Stay alive.
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What about those that have died and been revived?
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The body is just a container for the soul. Human bodies have blinders on. Your body is the vehicle, the brain is the cockpit and the soul (although blinded) runs it all.

Body dies, soul lives on. Revived, the soul is placed back in.
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death is death. it's the same place you were before you were born. do you remember that place? well, that's where you end up.
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Do you remember where you were Jan 20th, 1999?
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there is no reincarnation, your body just die, your cells stop working, your gut stop digesting, your brain stop receiving and sending messages, there's nothing more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1451276


Your body may die but your soul lives on, i have experienced this first hand. annoys the shit out of me when people state their "beliefs" as facts!
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you don't need to read them or believe them, nobody is forcing them down to your throat.
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i know but, you stated

"there's nothing more"

As if you know...
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there's nothing more, in my opinion.

Satisfied?
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Anyone who claims to know what happens after you die regardless of how you die is a pathological liar.

So OP, who knows man. Just don't find out. Stay alive.
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What about those that have died and been revived?
 Quoting: Lumen


The body is just a container for the soul. Human bodies have blinders on. Your body is the vehicle, the brain is the cockpit and the soul (although blinded) runs it all.

Body dies, soul lives on. Revived, the soul is placed back in.
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Yeah... and?

That's my point. While dead they're operating from their soul self, they bring this knowledge back to the body when they're revived.
Therefore they have first hand experience with what happens when you die. They know.
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If you commit suicide you will come back and have to go through the same all over again except it will be twice as hard. Everything happens in life is just a problem to be solved and there is always a way through no matter how hard life becomes. Taking what seems the easy way out, only in the long run will make it harder on you. Until you break through the problems you have and learn and move forward you will keep repeating the same situations over and over until you do. This is how you evolve. No matter how hard you think your life is there is always someone else out there who has a worse one.

It will be you however that chooses to come back to do it all over again, because you cannot go further until you get through your problem, or will become stagnent and you will not move further on to the next lesson.

Hope this makes sense to you.
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This person is a wise soul.......learn from his replies......
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I have read a few books on near death experiences and reincarnation and there are a few things that people experience.

Some people experience going to a grey like plane, I guess like a "limbo" where they have to think about what occurred.

Some people experience how their suicide affected others and they go back with an awareness that it was wrong and try to live a better life.

Some people experience going to a hospital type environment on the other side where they are helped to understand what went wrong before coming back.

Some spiritual writers seem to think that when people commit suicide they then have to return and in the next life they have exactly the same lessons.

Some even say that if originally you were supposed to die of natural causes at 60 and you committed suicide at say 40 then your next life will be only 20 years long to finish off the original time.

We all have free will and can choose what we do with our lives so ultimately we can choose to commit suicide. I don't think it is the right choice though. If we cut short our lessons and have to come back anyway why not get them sorted this time round.
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This Earth existence is illusion.

The real soul life is off this planet and timeless.

we are here not to change the world, but to be changed by the world.
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I have read a few books on near death experiences and reincarnation and there are a few things that people experience.

Some people experience going to a grey like plane, I guess like a "limbo" where they have to think about what occurred.

Some people experience how their suicide affected others and they go back with an awareness that it was wrong and try to live a better life.

Some people experience going to a hospital type environment on the other side where they are helped to understand what went wrong before coming back.

Some spiritual writers seem to think that when people commit suicide they then have to return and in the next life they have exactly the same lessons.

Some even say that if originally you were supposed to die of natural causes at 60 and you committed suicide at say 40 then your next life will be only 20 years long to finish off the original time.

We all have free will and can choose what we do with our lives so ultimately we can choose to commit suicide. I don't think it is the right choice though. If we cut short our lessons and have to come back anyway why not get them sorted this time round.
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I AGREE!!! But, you are still using 3D math...it is all on an individual basis.
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Nobody knows. And knowbody knows the pain and anguish that caused that person to kill themself. And nobody here is in a place to judge them.

Nobody.
 Quoting: Celia D.


I agree. And many suicides are valid. However, most are to hurt those left behind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11719613


What if the person has been wrongly convicted and is sentenced for life in prison? The person goes through emotional and physical torture throughout his time.

Is suicide justifiable then?

billgates
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Suicide is just a choice, nothing more. However you will have to come back and do everything all over again then get past the point where you took what you thought was the easy way out. It is your road, no one elses you choose what you learn, however the road you are on only you can walk down. Every situation you are put in is because you can overcome it by finding the knowledge to do so. this is how you learn. you will then move forward until you need to learn more knowldge from the next problem/hard time and over and over and over. There is no easy way out.

You were travelling this road long before you came here in this life nd will continue with the same road when you leave here. Some but very few will go further becuase they have learnt from the consequences of there choices and actions and take repsonsibility. Until you learn these basics you will keep coming back here.
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Anyone who claims to know what happens after you die regardless of how you die is a pathological liar.

So OP, who knows man. Just don't find out. Stay alive.
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What about those that have died and been revived?
 Quoting: Lumen


The body is just a container for the soul. Human bodies have blinders on. Your body is the vehicle, the brain is the cockpit and the soul (although blinded) runs it all.

Body dies, soul lives on. Revived, the soul is placed back in.
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Nobody knows. And knowbody knows the pain and anguish that caused that person to kill themself. And nobody here is in a place to judge them.

Nobody.
 Quoting: Celia D.


Good point
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The same can be said for those left behind.


It's not a solution.
 Quoting: doodlebug


We are all eventually "left behind", suicide or natural death. We all die. Everyone we've ever known will die.
 Quoting: Celia D.

I agree but one of the major things in life to remember is it's not always about what happens to you but how you handle it.
Suicide vs. Natural?
Completely different.
The damage done to yourself and others is irreversible.
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We are here as the fingers of God. We are the growth of God. God cannot have "limitation" because God is everything everywhere, everytime. So for God to know and grow limitation, voila, here we are.

Suicide would result in immediate reincarnation if you play the religion game. But the total of God is not in the religion game, even though the mind-set you hold as you leave this world will influence your entry to heaven. So if you expect a set of rules like, you will be immediately returned then, it will be honored, that is not God. That is just a religious mind-set within the realm of humans trying to fix a road to God.

God is the pool of Natural Law, even bigger. Still religion is just a subset of Natural Law. Get bigger. Get free. Get close to your higher power.
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Anyone who claims to know what happens after you die regardless of how you die is a pathological liar.

So OP, who knows man. Just don't find out. Stay alive.
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We DO know what happens after death. In the Bible, God clearly discloses what happens. Believe it or reject it. Your eternal soul depends on what you believe about it. It is the only reliable source.
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Anyone who claims to know what happens after you die regardless of how you die is a pathological liar.

So OP, who knows man. Just don't find out. Stay alive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11744964




We DO know what happens after death. In the Bible, God clearly discloses what happens. Believe it or reject it. Your eternal soul depends on what you believe about it. It is the only reliable source.
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Nobody reslly knows. Nobody can.

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