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If someone commits suicide, are they reincarnated into a life which is more harder and worse than the previous one?

 
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If you commit suicide you will come back and have to go through the same all over again except it will be twice as hard. Everything happens in life is just a problem to be solved and there is always a way through no matter how hard life becomes. Taking what seems the easy way out, only in the long run will make it harder on you. Until you break through the problems you have and learn and move forward you will keep repeating the same situations over and over until you do. This is how you evolve. No matter how hard you think your life is there is always someone else out there who has a worse one.

It will be you however that chooses to come back to do it all over again, because you cannot go further until you get through your problem, or will become stagnent and you will not move further on to the next lesson.

Hope this makes sense to you.
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This person is a wise soul.......learn from his replies......
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Thankyou I have been trained and taught by a private tutor and I am a woman!! lol
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Anyone who claims to know what happens after you die regardless of how you die is a pathological liar.

So OP, who knows man. Just don't find out. Stay alive.
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We DO know what happens after death. In the Bible, God clearly discloses what happens. Believe it or reject it. Your eternal soul depends on what you believe about it. It is the only reliable source.
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Nobody reslly knows. Nobody can.
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And this is ignorance based on lack of knowledge as there are many on this earth who do hold and know this knowldge. It is a choice that you choose not to believe and just becuase you don't doesn't mean it is not so.
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Anyone who claims to know what happens after you die regardless of how you die is a pathological liar.

So OP, who knows man. Just don't find out. Stay alive.
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We DO know what happens after death. In the Bible, God clearly discloses what happens. Believe it or reject it. Your eternal soul depends on what you believe about it. It is the only reliable source.
 Quoting: jusme 7112340


Using the Bible is a turn off...All allagorical and yet God(s) did allow it. So manipulated and abused this book.

So, but, you are right about one thing. There is an afterlife and what you do in this one effects your place in your next,,,until you earn your wings to fly free.
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My understanding of reincarnation is taken from various sources as they differ culturally . As for suicide one important thing to consider is not the act but the intentions surrounding it. Meaning it's all about head space. In the west suicide is regarded as a negative having to do with various emotions such as depression, sadness, loss etc. However in a country like japan suicide can be a thing of honor and pride so it may be seen as a positive. In the dying process your thoughts are what cary you into the next plane of existence it is important that the individuals projections are clear. What you send out is what comes bak at you. If a person dies in a state of confusion they may not have realized they are dead and may get stuck in that mindset for a very, very long time. This may be what happens to spirits we perceive as ghosts. On the other side a person who dies in a state of peace and awareness can move onto higher realms very quickly. It is well known that when ghandi was shot, he immediately went into a deep state of meditation before he passed and because of this, he is thought to have transcended into nirvana or what evr you may call it. So in a very literal way your mind creates the reality u incarnate into in death.
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My understanding of reincarnation is taken from various sources as they differ culturally . As for suicide one important thing to consider is not the act but the intentions surrounding it. Meaning it's all about head space. In the west suicide is regarded as a negative having to do with various emotions such as depression, sadness, loss etc. However in a country like japan suicide can be a thing of honor and pride so it may be seen as a positive. In the dying process your thoughts are what cary you into the next plane of existence it is important that the individuals projections are clear. What you send out is what comes bak at you. If a person dies in a state of confusion they may not have realized they are dead and may get stuck in that mindset for a very, very long time. This may be what happens to spirits we perceive as ghosts. On the other side a person who dies in a state of peace and awareness can move onto higher realms very quickly. It is well known that when ghandi was shot, he immediately went into a deep state of meditation before he passed and because of this, he is thought to have transcended into nirvana or what evr you may call it. So in a very literal way your mind creates the reality u incarnate into in death.
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Thankyou, this is part of what I have been trying to convey.
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".home go or, car another into get, out get simply You
.life that's But
.wreck or gas of out run you Sometimes
.soul the, spirit the is seat driver's the in man the But
.brain the is engine The
.wheels, gears the comprises body The
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?spirits our of manifestation physical arbitrary
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So op whats your proof? Or are you speaking with a paper asshole?hf
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".home go or, car another into get, out get simply You
.life that's But
.wreck or gas of out run you Sometimes
.soul the, spirit the is seat driver's the in man the But
.brain the is engine The
.wheels, gears the comprises body The
.car a of that to comparable is life, See
.ideologies racist transcends idea The
?spirits our of manifestation physical arbitrary
the just is body the that learn humans you will When
.more much It's .face my not is me at look you when see you What"
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Yep.
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As it were, perhaps, in terms of, indeed, so to speak..LOL
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Anyone who claims to know what happens after you die regardless of how you die is a pathological liar.

So OP, who knows man. Just don't find out. Stay alive.
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What about those that have died and been revived?
 Quoting: Lumen


Near death experiences are the brain's way of coping with death. The brilliant light, the feelings of being with loved ones, the life story flashing by, all part of the dying process.

Those folks who are revived were never actually dead. Their brains were still alive.
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So op whats your proof? Or are you speaking with a paper asshole?hf
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What does "paper asshole" mean?
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Anyone who claims to know what happens after you die regardless of how you die is a pathological liar.

So OP, who knows man. Just don't find out. Stay alive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11744964


What about those that have died and been revived?
 Quoting: Lumen


Near death experiences are the brain's way of coping with death. The brilliant light, the feelings of being with loved ones, the life story flashing by, all part of the dying process.

Those folks who are revived were never actually dead. Their brains were still alive.
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Yep.
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Anyone who claims to know what happens after you die regardless of how you die is a pathological liar.

So OP, who knows man. Just don't find out. Stay alive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11744964


What about those that have died and been revived?
 Quoting: Lumen


The body is just a container for the soul. Human bodies have blinders on. Your body is the vehicle, the brain is the cockpit and the soul (although blinded) runs it all.

Body dies, soul lives on. Revived, the soul is placed back in.
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And you have absolutely no proof of this what so ever.

Death experts are funny.
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What about those that have died and been revived?
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Near death experiences are the brain's way of coping with death. The brilliant light, the feelings of being with loved ones, the life story flashing by, all part of the dying process.

Those folks who are revived were never actually dead. Their brains were still alive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11744964


I didn't say anything about near death experiences. I was talking about people who have died and been revived.
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Anyone who claims to know what happens after you die regardless of how you die is a pathological liar.

So OP, who knows man. Just don't find out. Stay alive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11744964




We DO know what happens after death. In the Bible, God clearly discloses what happens. Believe it or reject it. Your eternal soul depends on what you believe about it. It is the only reliable source.
 Quoting: jusme 7112340


Nobody reslly knows. Nobody can.
 Quoting: Celia D.


And this is ignorance based on lack of knowledge as there are many on this earth who do hold and know this knowldge. It is a choice that you choose not to believe and just becuase you don't doesn't mean it is not so.
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Just because you believe something does not make it fact. No one holds after death knowledge. No one.
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My understanding of reincarnation is taken from various sources as they differ culturally . As for suicide one important thing to consider is not the act but the intentions surrounding it. Meaning it's all about head space. In the west suicide is regarded as a negative having to do with various emotions such as depression, sadness, loss etc. However in a country like japan suicide can be a thing of honor and pride so it may be seen as a positive. In the dying process your thoughts are what cary you into the next plane of existence it is important that the individuals projections are clear. What you send out is what comes bak at you. If a person dies in a state of confusion they may not have realized they are dead and may get stuck in that mindset for a very, very long time. This may be what happens to spirits we perceive as ghosts. On the other side a person who dies in a state of peace and awareness can move onto higher realms very quickly. It is well known that when ghandi was shot, he immediately went into a deep state of meditation before he passed and because of this, he is thought to have transcended into nirvana or what evr you may call it. So in a very literal way your mind creates the reality u incarnate into in death.
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Thankyou, this is part of what I have been trying to convey.
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Cool I'll go back and look for your posts.
It's funny reading many of the replies here because there is a part of me that agrees kno one knows what happens. But on an intuitive level reincarnation makes perfect sense. I think it has been intentionally removed from our religions in the west because it is a threat to the church. I read once(can't remember where it's been too long) that Jesus preached reincartion. Think of how different Christianity would be if that was still taught or how different this culture would be!
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The body is just a container for the soul. Human bodies have blinders on. Your body is the vehicle, the brain is the cockpit and the soul (although blinded) runs it all.

Body dies, soul lives on. Revived, the soul is placed back in.
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And you have absolutely no proof of this what so ever.

Death experts are funny.
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The only proof any of us have come from our experiences. Most people are too closed off to have real spiritual experiences. Its during these times we get our answers.
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No one can answer that question for you OP...they can only give you their opinion. Including me.

I have questions for you.
What makes you think that life would be harder or worse?

why can't it be better?

I believe in pre-determined life...and I am so OK with trusting in my creator to plan my life according to His will....if I have to live reincarnated lives, so be it. If the life I live now (as I see my life) so be it (and it has'nt been an easy life)....If I have lived past lives - so be it-- I don't remember them. I only know the life I live now.

If reincarnation is real - so be it....as long as the final life is with my creator...

If my creator has chosen for me to commit suicide, than that is how I was chosen to die.

We are loved - He chose us to to be born to the lives, family and friends we have in our lives. Everyones lives and thoughts are totally different - even within families, no matter how close they are to each other.

We are Spirituly created and loved before the beginning of time and how I exit this world is in the hands of my creator. It might be suicide, murder,childhood illness, old age,or all the poisons in our lives today ect....I don't know - Nor does anyone on this earth, Only our Creator knows...

I'm far from a bibletard (I don't like them either)but I do believe that my (our) life(s) has/have been pre-determined...incarnated, maybe, pre-determined, I think/believe so.
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Bibletards can fuck right off.

I'm only interested in hearing the opinions of those who believe in reincarnation.
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I haven't read what anyone said so far, and im slightly drunk, so you well get my truth :D

Not really

reincarnation is based on the sum of experience or the good/bad action you perform while being alive in the current incarnation.

So if you kill yourself it will no be a negative score, however you will not progress, you will "respawn" :D
in the same general situation you left behind, thats my guess.

It solves nothing, it will however influence those that know you, perhaps in a negative way.
If you go out, off yourself, and you by doing that fuck up the lives of those close to you, it might give negative karma, in theory.

bottom line, life can be hard.
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What about those that have died and been revived?
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Near death experiences are the brain's way of coping with death. The brilliant light, the feelings of being with loved ones, the life story flashing by, all part of the dying process.

Those folks who are revived were never actually dead. Their brains were still alive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11744964


I didn't say anything about near death experiences. I was talking about people who have died and been revived.
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Who's actually died and been revived? I'm not talking about heart stoppage or cold water drowning. In those instances, the brain still lives.

I need an example of someone who was clinically dead (absolute brain death) for hours and then brought back.

No zombies either!zombies
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Anyone who claims to know what happens after you die regardless of how you die is a pathological liar.

So OP, who knows man. Just don't find out. Stay alive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11744964


What about those that have died and been revived?
 Quoting: Lumen


The body is just a container for the soul. Human bodies have blinders on. Your body is the vehicle, the brain is the cockpit and the soul (although blinded) runs it all.

Body dies, soul lives on. Revived, the soul is placed back in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11719613


And you have absolutely no proof of this what so ever.

Death experts are funny.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11744964


Hey Death Expert...You want proof? Yeah, so.... what if I am right...but only 100%?

If you need proof, you are watching too much tv and believing way too much of the MSMedia wants you to. Go to work, the mall, and then TV...or just become a bit aware of the speedbumps, sting operations happening to you. Go upstairs now, look in the mirror and there is your proof...you like what you see.?
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Bibletards can fuck right off.

I'm only interested in hearing the opinions of those who believe in reincarnation.
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Yes, I believe in the notion suggested by your thread title. I believe you laid the path for your current lifetime and all the challenges and lessons you have encountered thus far and will encounter in the future, and that by succumbing to the desire to end your own life, you are breaking a promise with yourself and will have to have another 'go around' at this journey and will face the same or similar challenges/lessons again in order to overcome them and learn from them.

Those that do medium work always tend to relay the same message when trying to connect to those who committed suicide. That the individuals made it through okay to the 'other side', but that they regret their actions and wished they had done things differently.

I believe in reincarnation but VOLUNTARY reincarnation as in it's a choice, and I don't believe it is an automatic loop in which you end one lifetime and immediately begin another, with no recollection of previous incarnations. I believe there is another dimension of existence that is timeless and you willfully choose to reincarnate as part of a greater purpose in this universe. Probably too difficult for us to fully grasp in this dimension. I am not religious and don't care for religion but the above is what resonates with me.

I felt suicidal at one stage in my life but I'm glad to have moved on from that.

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I dont think they are allowed to take another body and life again. or they start all over again and they are a rock.
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Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
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Life itself is very temporary in the scheme of things.
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What about those that have died and been revived?
 Quoting: Lumen


Near death experiences are the brain's way of coping with death. The brilliant light, the feelings of being with loved ones, the life story flashing by, all part of the dying process.

Those folks who are revived were never actually dead. Their brains were still alive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11744964


I didn't say anything about near death experiences. I was talking about people who have died and been revived.
 Quoting: Lumen


Who's actually died and been revived? I'm not talking about heart stoppage or cold water drowning. In those instances, the brain still lives.

I need an example of someone who was clinically dead (absolute brain death) for hours and then brought back.


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For hours? That doesn't even deserve a response.
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The body is just a container for the soul. Human bodies have blinders on. Your body is the vehicle, the brain is the cockpit and the soul (although blinded) runs it all.

Body dies, soul lives on. Revived, the soul is placed back in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11719613


And you have absolutely no proof of this what so ever.

Death experts are funny.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11744964


The only proof any of us have come from our experiences. Most people are too closed off to have real spiritual experiences. Its during these times we get our answers.
 Quoting: Lumen


Well there you go. Do you hear voices when having these "spiritual experiences"?
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Before you ever do anything so permanent, make absolute certain that you're not making a mistake. If you've got at least one person that loves you, think of them. I guarantee you they wouldn't want to lose you.
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Near death experiences are the brain's way of coping with death. The brilliant light, the feelings of being with loved ones, the life story flashing by, all part of the dying process.

Those folks who are revived were never actually dead. Their brains were still alive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11744964


I didn't say anything about near death experiences. I was talking about people who have died and been revived.
 Quoting: Lumen


Who's actually died and been revived? I'm not talking about heart stoppage or cold water drowning. In those instances, the brain still lives.

I need an example of someone who was clinically dead (absolute brain death) for hours and then brought back.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11744964


For hours? That doesn't even deserve a response.
 Quoting: Lumen


That's what it would take to prove to me the brain was absolutely dead.

You'd be surprised how long that grey matter can hang on.
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The body is just a container for the soul. Human bodies have blinders on. Your body is the vehicle, the brain is the cockpit and the soul (although blinded) runs it all.

Body dies, soul lives on. Revived, the soul is placed back in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11719613


And you have absolutely no proof of this what so ever.

Death experts are funny.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11744964


The only proof any of us have come from our experiences. Most people are too closed off to have real spiritual experiences. Its during these times we get our answers.
 Quoting: Lumen


Well there you go. Do you hear voices when having these "spiritual experiences"?
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Uh. No. Speech is a physical construct. Created through physical processes.
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What about those that have died and been revived?
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Near death experiences are the brain's way of coping with death. The brilliant light, the feelings of being with loved ones, the life story flashing by, all part of the dying process.

Those folks who are revived were never actually dead. Their brains were still alive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11744964


I didn't say anything about near death experiences. I was talking about people who have died and been revived.
 Quoting: Lumen


Who's actually died and been revived? I'm not talking about heart stoppage or cold water drowning. In those instances, the brain still lives.

I need an example of someone who was clinically dead (absolute brain death) for hours and then brought back.

No zombies either!zombies

The body is run by supernatural beings. They do not handle the soul. Those who deal with souls can put them in a piece of wood or a rock is they so choose.
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So op whats your proof? Or are you speaking with a paper asshole?hf
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What does "paper asshole" mean?
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Pulling statements out his ass! hf

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