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If someone commits suicide, are they reincarnated into a life which is more harder and worse than the previous one?

 
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Anyone who claims to know what happens after you die regardless of how you die is a pathological liar.

So OP, who knows man. Just don't find out. Stay alive.
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What about those that have died and been revived?
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The body is just a container for the soul. Human bodies have blinders on. Your body is the vehicle, the brain is the cockpit and the soul (although blinded) runs it all.

Body dies, soul lives on. Revived, the soul is placed back in.
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And you have absolutely no proof of this what so ever.

Death experts are funny.
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Wrong there have been many experiments done in this field and the arguments for scientific proof are quite strong, one theory is that the cell walls are actualy little antennas for the soul, that is why when a person gets a organ transplant they sometimes show characteristics of the donor. If someone is interested I will list a few of the studies done in this field. Very interesting stuff.
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So op whats your proof? Or are you speaking with a paper asshole?hf
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What does "paper asshole" mean?
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Pulling statements out his ass! hf
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Thanks, I did not know that...LOL

The whole human body is a swallowing sphincter from mouth to anus. Pulsating and undulating 24/7.

Reverse that natural body thing, and we have you, regurgitating sensless verbage. Hows it taste?
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no,all the bullshit on this side dosent matter on the other side.like it or not thats the way it is.
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What about those that have died and been revived?
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The body is just a container for the soul. Human bodies have blinders on. Your body is the vehicle, the brain is the cockpit and the soul (although blinded) runs it all.

Body dies, soul lives on. Revived, the soul is placed back in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11719613


And you have absolutely no proof of this what so ever.

Death experts are funny.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11744964


Wrong there have been many experiments done in this field and the arguments for scientific proof are quite strong, one theory is that the cell walls are actualy little antennas for the soul, that is why when a person gets a organ transplant they sometimes show characteristics of the donor. If someone is interested I will list a few of the studies done in this field. Very interesting stuff.
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I'm not at all close minded on this subject. I just get irritated when people start professing their beliefs as absolute truths.

I'd be interested in seeing the research if you have a link.
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If you commit suicide you will come back and have to go through the same all over again except it will be twice as hard. Everything happens in life is just a problem to be solved and there is always a way through no matter how hard life becomes. Taking what seems the easy way out, only in the long run will make it harder on you. Until you break through the problems you have and learn and move forward you will keep repeating the same situations over and over until you do. This is how you evolve. No matter how hard you think your life is there is always someone else out there who has a worse one.

It will be you however that chooses to come back to do it all over again, because you cannot go further until you get through your problem, or will become stagnent and you will not move further on to the next lesson.

Hope this makes sense to you.
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This person is a wise soul.......learn from his replies......
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Thankyou I have been trained and taught by a private tutor and I am a woman!! lol
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I partially agree with you. But word to the wise comparing someone elses problems with others that are worse off is not always a great thing to do when a person is suicidal even if theyre problems don't seem so bad. you cannot know what they are going through or the severity of it.
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I didn't say anything about near death experiences. I was talking about people who have died and been revived.
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Who's actually died and been revived? I'm not talking about heart stoppage or cold water drowning. In those instances, the brain still lives.

I need an example of someone who was clinically dead (absolute brain death) for hours and then brought back.


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For hours? That doesn't even deserve a response.
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That's what it would take to prove to me the brain was absolutely dead.

You'd be surprised how long that grey matter can hang on.
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You could try google.

[link to www.near-death.com]

[link to www.kgw.com]
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no,all the bullshit on this side dosent matter on the other side.like it or not thats the way it is.
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Precisely,,,,!!!!!!!!!

We humans think we know everything, sometimes...

After a bunch of humiliations we either get back on the horse and clean up our act..or not.

Humans know nothing. The universe is huge beyond our feable blinded eyes...on purpose. Our souls either asked for this Earth experience or were sent here for work.

This is a medium security prison. It can be worse.

Next step up is heaven...and that is just the beginning.
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That is what some believe. I have a slightly different answer, because I believe in Love and that we were never meant to learn in such misery, and pain as this planets ongoing karma, where many have gotten trapped, who were Love in their source and essence. We are meant to progress with joy and goodness, more balance in things if you will.

If something is SO hard that it can't be faced, then if it is a lesson, that our own Soul, Family or Source wishes to see finished, it needs to be broken down into better portions, and hopefully in better place.

Mercy not vengeance. Healing and freeing your mind from tough love principals.

That is not saying there are no consequences, but most of them are in this world.

There are people who help others by doing retrievals, and suicides are amongst those, its more freeing their minds.

Some of the suicides are simply wishing to go back home, they came into help but cannot endure this frequency, and they immediately wish to return and not fail in their assignment.

Always turn up the frequency in Love, Kindness and Goodness, and pray to Source, and seek your own Soul's answers, ask yourself, in meditation, in self hypnosis, go deep and ask yourself, create your own induction, script, and deepening and list of questions, there are online examples and burn it onto an mp3 with some binaurals with audacity, and ask questions on the cd, or put empty blanks and change the questions each week, and record it, record your own voice answering occasionally.

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The body is just a container for the soul. Human bodies have blinders on. Your body is the vehicle, the brain is the cockpit and the soul (although blinded) runs it all.

Body dies, soul lives on. Revived, the soul is placed back in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11719613


And you have absolutely no proof of this what so ever.

Death experts are funny.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11744964


Wrong there have been many experiments done in this field and the arguments for scientific proof are quite strong, one theory is that the cell walls are actualy little antennas for the soul, that is why when a person gets a organ transplant they sometimes show characteristics of the donor. If someone is interested I will list a few of the studies done in this field. Very interesting stuff.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11307622


I'm not at all close minded on this subject. I just get irritated when people start professing their beliefs as absolute truths.

I'd be interested in seeing the research if you have a link.
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Cool! I'd be happy to, i was hoping there would be a taker. Check back in a little bit cause it may take a few minutes to find them.
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I need an example of someone who was clinically dead (absolute brain death) for hours and then brought back.

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17 hours.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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no,all the bullshit on this side dosent matter on the other side.like it or not thats the way it is.
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Precisely,,,,!!!!!!!!!

We humans think we know everything, sometimes...

After a bunch of humiliations we either get back on the horse and clean up our act..or not.

Humans know nothing. The universe is huge beyond our feable blinded eyes...on purpose. Our souls either asked for this Earth experience or were sent here for work.

This is a medium security prison. It can be worse.

Next step up is heaven...and that is just the beginning.
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Hahah I like your analogy!

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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Who's actually died and been revived? I'm not talking about heart stoppage or cold water drowning. In those instances, the brain still lives.

I need an example of someone who was clinically dead (absolute brain death) for hours and then brought back.


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For hours? That doesn't even deserve a response.
 Quoting: Lumen


That's what it would take to prove to me the brain was absolutely dead.

You'd be surprised how long that grey matter can hang on.
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You could try google.

[link to www.near-death.com]

[link to www.kgw.com]
 Quoting: Lumen


First link is pure garbage.

Second link, the doctors were obviously wrong about her being brain dead. Doctors can be wrong sometimes too.

Next....
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no,all the bullshit on this side dosent matter on the other side.like it or not thats the way it is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1025215


Precisely,,,,!!!!!!!!!

We humans think we know everything, sometimes...

After a bunch of humiliations we either get back on the horse and clean up our act..or not.

Humans know nothing. The universe is huge beyond our feable blinded eyes...on purpose. Our souls either asked for this Earth experience or were sent here for work.

This is a medium security prison. It can be worse.

Next step up is heaven...and that is just the beginning.
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No its not. This is a prison, in the minds of the elite who like that idea. But they are so far off, they're going to be feeling very sorry for harming others or being boot in the head, rather than a helping hand, when they're done this stint themselvess.

Now, between those mystery school, military distortions and the real answers, say, Dolores Cannon's regressions and many others, pure answers, you know like NDE's, I know my own soul, and everyone else's is a little wiser than any of those credos.

Choose Love and Joy, and start to remember who you are.

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You sheeple are so dumb. Yay I goin be reincarnated. Fucking idiots.
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For hours? That doesn't even deserve a response.
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That's what it would take to prove to me the brain was absolutely dead.

You'd be surprised how long that grey matter can hang on.
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You could try google.

[link to www.near-death.com]

[link to www.kgw.com]
 Quoting: Lumen


First link is pure garbage.

Second link, the doctors were obviously wrong about her being brain dead. Doctors can be wrong sometimes too.

Next....
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Yeah, I think I'm going to take a doctors opinion over yours. Thanks.
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Not necessarily. Though to commit suicide misses the point of incarnating in the first place. All of us are here to use the human form, as ridiculous as it is, to transcend the necessity of rebirth. This can only be done whilst in the form and until the light body (merkabah) is recognized as real within which the form appears to exist then an aspect is still bound to reincarnation. Ironically this realization is a form of death. It is the death of identification in ignorance and the realization of the true Self.

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I need an example of someone who was clinically dead (absolute brain death) for hours and then brought back.

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17 hours.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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Woman was kept on life support keeping oxygen flowing to the brain. Obviously her brain was not completely dead either. If it were, she would not have been brought back.
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This Earth existence is illusion.

The real soul life is off this planet and timeless.we are here not to change the world, but to be changed by the world.
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We are born Spiritual beings - we live a human experience.
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That's what it would take to prove to me the brain was absolutely dead.

You'd be surprised how long that grey matter can hang on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11744964


You could try google.

[link to www.near-death.com]

[link to www.kgw.com]
 Quoting: Lumen


First link is pure garbage.

Second link, the doctors were obviously wrong about her being brain dead. Doctors can be wrong sometimes too.

Next....
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Yeah, I think I'm going to take a doctors opinion over yours. Thanks.
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And you'd take my opinion over a doctor's if it jived with your beliefs.

Give it up already. I'm not saying life after death is impossible. I'm saying it's impossible for any of us living, to know.
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[link to www.near-death.com]

This has more answers than religions.

I also highly recommend Dolores Cannons books.

And creating your own induction, deeping and scripts for your own inexpensive past life and life between life type sessions.

Its just guided meditation.


Michael Newton-Past Life Therapy-Journey Between Lives 1/5


Life Between Lives - The Soul's Mission or Soul Contract

Many many people, millions volunteered to come.

Some are trapped in karma, but will be making choices on whether they're ready to move ahead.

This is a very tough school, and people are actually considered very brave to come here, and watched over, encouraged, and helped by many teams and family.

Also ego is something that tends to get weeded out as you advance, the more mature, the more you consider everyone equal, but not a pile of poo, everyone counts, everyone needs to shine their lights, and wake up, and start to gain confidence in themselves, their families, and those watching over. Humility is an abused word. It doesnt mean you're a pile of poo who doesnt shine.

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I need an example of someone who was clinically dead (absolute brain death) for hours and then brought back.

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17 hours.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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Woman was kept on life support keeping oxygen flowing to the brain. Obviously her brain was not completely dead either. If it were, she would not have been brought back.
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Riiiiight.

"Her skin had already started hardening".

You've obviously made up your mind that for someone to be revived from the dead, they weren't actually dead to begin with, despite the evidence that is right in front of your face.

Clearly no point discussing this with you. You're convinced you're right. Nothing's going to change that.
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I'm not saying life after death is impossible. I'm saying it's impossible for any of us living, to know.
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Life after death is merely the continuation of the soul. Those that are in communication with their soul, know.
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I have a friend who died for 33 minutes and was on the way to the morgue when he woke up. He heard the doctor, standing right beside him, telling his then wife at the time and mother that he was going to be a vegetable due to a long time without O2. He reached over and pinched the doc on the butt and said, "who are you calling road kill!"

My son, when he had an nde, was given a choice, about returning home or staying and he said he would have preferred to go home, he knew he would be happier, but he wanted to help here.

And if it was just some illusion of O2 deprivation, that doesnt explain the state of super consciousness where he could hear for miles and night had turned to day. Also, though he was deathly ill, he was immediately 100% healed when he returned to his body.

Not to mention, when those BORN BLIND can see!

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I need an example of someone who was clinically dead (absolute brain death) for hours and then brought back.

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17 hours.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
 Quoting: Lumen


Woman was kept on life support keeping oxygen flowing to the brain. Obviously her brain was not completely dead either. If it were, she would not have been brought back.
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Riiiiight.

"Her skin had already started hardening".

You've obviously made up your mind that for someone to be revived from the dead, they weren't actually dead to begin with, despite the evidence that is right in front of your face.

Clearly no point discussing this with you. You're convinced you're right. Nothing's going to change that.
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Gotta go with logic here Lumen. The woman was kept on life support so the cells in her body were in fact being kept alive.

Now had that woman been dead on the side of the road for 17 hours I'd probably have a hard time arguing with you. But at least in this instance, there is a logical reason for this supposed miracle.
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I'm not saying life after death is impossible. I'm saying it's impossible for any of us living, to know.
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Life after death is merely the continuation of the soul. Those that are in communication with their soul, know.
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No, they don't.
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And you have absolutely no proof of this what so ever.

Death experts are funny.
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Wrong there have been many experiments done in this field and the arguments for scientific proof are quite strong, one theory is that the cell walls are actualy little antennas for the soul, that is why when a person gets a organ transplant they sometimes show characteristics of the donor. If someone is interested I will list a few of the studies done in this field. Very interesting stuff.
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I'm not at all close minded on this subject. I just get irritated when people start professing their beliefs as absolute truths.

I'd be interested in seeing the research if you have a link.
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Cool! I'd be happy to, i was hoping there would be a taker. Check back in a little bit cause it may take a few minutes to find them.
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Here is one link to dr. Bruce Lipton, just a taste if u like I recommend diving in deep with him and look for Rupert sheldrake also. Follow the links on these guys and worlds of info will open up. I've been hooked for several years now.
There is so much of this out there now, we humans are really at such an exciting place in our evolution and understanding our nature.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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I'm not saying life after death is impossible. I'm saying it's impossible for any of us living, to know.
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Life after death is merely the continuation of the soul. Those that are in communication with their soul, know.
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No, they don't.
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lol
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I need an example of someone who was clinically dead (absolute brain death) for hours and then brought back.

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17 hours.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
 Quoting: Lumen


Woman was kept on life support keeping oxygen flowing to the brain. Obviously her brain was not completely dead either. If it were, she would not have been brought back.
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Riiiiight.

"Her skin had already started hardening".

You've obviously made up your mind that for someone to be revived from the dead, they weren't actually dead to begin with, despite the evidence that is right in front of your face.

Clearly no point discussing this with you. You're convinced you're right. Nothing's going to change that.
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That was my reaction as well...

I'm most interested in cases where individuals in traumatic situations experienced non-local consciousness. Particularly this story of a woman who was badly injured in a terrible auto accident. Essentially she flatlined on her way to the hospital due to extreme blood less while being flown to the nearest trauma unit 45 minutes away. Her family was waiting outside the ICU as the Doctors worked to try and bring her back to life. Of course she eventually came back to life but what was most telling, was that she later described floating around the hospital and was able to describe a conversation that her family members had while they were anxiously waiting to hear about her condition from the doctors. She provided specific details about an exchange in a separate part of the hospital between her family members that were never relayed to her after she regained a pulse/heartbeat. Her family of course was absolutely floored at her ability to provide that information because her physical body was in the ICU with no brain activity and no pulse.

Of course there are also accounts of individuals undergoing surgery where they describe being above their body and watching the doctors perform work on them. Individuals being able to recount exchanges between the doctors & nurses (some not so nice exchanges), and one fascinating tale of a woman who was later able to describe a very unique/special surgical tool that the doctor utilized while working on her skull/brain that was not physically visible in the operating room before she was wheeled in and subsequently put under anesthesia.

I'm on board. cool2

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Haven't read all the other replies, so sorry if this repeats what someone else has said.

The person gets a choice of lives when he's ready to come back, so he might take two easy lives in a row instead of one difficult life to so-call "atone" for the act of committing suicide. Suicide is no sin, but it obviously delays your soul on its path to God realization.
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Wrong there have been many experiments done in this field and the arguments for scientific proof are quite strong, one theory is that the cell walls are actualy little antennas for the soul, that is why when a person gets a organ transplant they sometimes show characteristics of the donor. If someone is interested I will list a few of the studies done in this field. Very interesting stuff.
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I'm not at all close minded on this subject. I just get irritated when people start professing their beliefs as absolute truths.

I'd be interested in seeing the research if you have a link.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11744964


Cool! I'd be happy to, i was hoping there would be a taker. Check back in a little bit cause it may take a few minutes to find them.
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Here is one link to dr. Bruce Lipton, just a taste if u like I recommend diving in deep with him and look for Rupert sheldrake also. Follow the links on these guys and worlds of info will open up. I've been hooked for several years now.
There is so much of this out there now, we humans are really at such an exciting place in our evolution and understanding our nature.

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Thanks! I'll check it out!

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