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If someone commits suicide, are they reincarnated into a life which is more harder and worse than the previous one?

 
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Woman was kept on life support keeping oxygen flowing to the brain. Obviously her brain was not completely dead either. If it were, she would not have been brought back.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11744964


Riiiiight.

"Her skin had already started hardening".

You've obviously made up your mind that for someone to be revived from the dead, they weren't actually dead to begin with, despite the evidence that is right in front of your face.

Clearly no point discussing this with you. You're convinced you're right. Nothing's going to change that.
 Quoting: Lumen


That was my reaction as well...

I'm most interested in cases where individuals in traumatic situations experienced non-local consciousness. Particularly this story of a woman who was badly injured in a terrible auto accident. Essentially she flatlined on her way to the hospital due to extreme blood less while being flown to the nearest trauma unit 45 minutes away. Her family was waiting outside the ICU as the Doctors worked to try and bring her back to life. Of course she eventually came back to life but what was most telling, was that she later described floating around the hospital and was able to describe a conversation that her family members had while they were anxiously waiting to hear about her condition from the doctors. She provided specific details about an exchange in a separate part of the hospital between her family members that were never relayed to her after she regained a pulse/heartbeat. Her family of course was absolutely floored at her ability to provide that information because her physical body was in the ICU with no brain activity and no pulse.

Of course there are also accounts of individuals undergoing surgery where they describe being above their body and watching the doctors perform work on them. Individuals being able to recount exchanges between the doctors & nurses (some not so nice exchanges), and one fascinating tale of a woman who was later able to describe a very unique/special surgical tool that the doctor utilized while working on her skull/brain that was not physically visible in the operating room before she was wheeled in and subsequently put under anesthesia.

I'm on board. cool2
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Translocation is a reality. One does not have to have a near death experience to recognize this. It is possible through Self-realization to move through space and make your presence felt by another who is sensitive to same in a physically different location.

This is not conjecture. It is fact.

How do I know?

Because I can do it.
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 Quoting: Lumen


Woman was kept on life support keeping oxygen flowing to the brain. Obviously her brain was not completely dead either. If it were, she would not have been brought back.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11744964


Riiiiight.

"Her skin had already started hardening".

You've obviously made up your mind that for someone to be revived from the dead, they weren't actually dead to begin with, despite the evidence that is right in front of your face.

Clearly no point discussing this with you. You're convinced you're right. Nothing's going to change that.
 Quoting: Lumen


That was my reaction as well...

I'm most interested in cases where individuals in traumatic situations experienced non-local consciousness. Particularly this story of a woman who was badly injured in a terrible auto accident. Essentially she flatlined on her way to the hospital due to extreme blood less while being flown to the nearest trauma unit 45 minutes away. Her family was waiting outside the ICU as the Doctors worked to try and bring her back to life. Of course she eventually came back to life but what was most telling, was that she later described floating around the hospital and was able to describe a conversation that her family members had while they were anxiously waiting to hear about her condition from the doctors. She provided specific details about an exchange in a separate part of the hospital between her family members that were never relayed to her after she regained a pulse/heartbeat. Her family of course was absolutely floored at her ability to provide that information because her physical body was in the ICU with no brain activity and no pulse.

Of course there are also accounts of individuals undergoing surgery where they describe being above their body and watching the doctors perform work on them. Individuals being able to recount exchanges between the doctors & nurses (some not so nice exchanges), and one fascinating tale of a woman who was later able to describe a very unique/special surgical tool that the doctor utilized while working on her skull/brain that was not physically visible in the operating room before she was wheeled in and subsequently put under anesthesia.

I'm on board. cool2
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


OBE's are fascinating. Whether the body dies or not there is still evidence that we can somehow disconnect from our physical self.
Unfortunately those that have experienced it themselves cannot convince others of it. The proof is in the experience.
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Translocation is a reality. One does not have to have a near death experience to recognize this. It is possible through Self-realization to move through space and make your presence felt by another who is sensitive to same in a physically different location.

This is not conjecture. It is fact.

How do I know?

Because I can do it.

 Quoting: Seraph777


ohyeah
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If you commit suicide you will come back and have to go through the same all over again except it will be twice as hard. Everything happens in life is just a problem to be solved and there is always a way through no matter how hard life becomes. Taking what seems the easy way out, only in the long run will make it harder on you. Until you break through the problems you have and learn and move forward you will keep repeating the same situations over and over until you do. This is how you evolve. No matter how hard you think your life is there is always someone else out there who has a worse one.

It will be you however that chooses to come back to do it all over again, because you cannot go further until you get through your problem, or will become stagnent and you will not move further on to the next lesson.

Hope this makes sense to you.
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Still sounds like torture.

Rules = Evil

We are trapped in a cycle of reincarnation with our memories wiped out against our freewill
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Your memories are wiped out for good reason. You would be a basket case if your whole past came back to you while incarnated. You would be in such a state of despair, there would be no chance of any spiritual growth. Which would defeat the whole purpose of reincarnation.

We have a most awesome God, who loves us unconditionally. So much so, that we are given almost as many chances as needed to find our way back to him. Namaste!
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Translocation is a reality. One does not have to have a near death experience to recognize this. It is possible through Self-realization to move through space and make your presence felt by another who is sensitive to same in a physically different location.

This is not conjecture. It is fact.

How do I know?

Because I can do it.

 Quoting: Seraph777


ohyeah
 Quoting: Lumen


Children mock.
Adults investigate.......
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they are reincarnated to a whiner.

for not having the lasting power to stand up and be a man or women.
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So op whats your proof? Or are you speaking with a paper asshole?hf
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What does "paper asshole" mean?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11719613


Pulling statements out his ass! hf
 Quoting: Joker


Thanks, I did not know that...LOL

The whole human body is a swallowing sphincter from mouth to anus. Pulsating and undulating 24/7.

Reverse that natural body thing, and we have you, regurgitating sensless verbage. Hows it taste?
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Tastes good friend, tastes good! lol
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Translocation is a reality. One does not have to have a near death experience to recognize this. It is possible through Self-realization to move through space and make your presence felt by another who is sensitive to same in a physically different location.

This is not conjecture. It is fact.

How do I know?

Because I can do it.

 Quoting: Seraph777


ohyeah
 Quoting: Lumen


Children mock.
Adults investigate.......

 Quoting: Seraph777


I'm agreeing with you. That wasn't sarcasm.
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I would hope not. Life must have seemed pretty bad to commit suicide in the first place.
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there is no reincarnation, your body just die, your cells stop working, your gut stop digesting, your brain stop receiving and sending messages, there's nothing more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1451276


Let's hope so
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A bit risky , no ?
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Translocation is a reality. One does not have to have a near death experience to recognize this. It is possible through Self-realization to move through space and make your presence felt by another who is sensitive to same in a physically different location.

This is not conjecture. It is fact.

How do I know?

Because I can do it.

 Quoting: Seraph777


ohyeah
 Quoting: Lumen


Children mock.
Adults investigate.......

 Quoting: Seraph777


I'm agreeing with you. That wasn't sarcasm.
 Quoting: Lumen

I apologize.
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Woman was kept on life support keeping oxygen flowing to the brain. Obviously her brain was not completely dead either. If it were, she would not have been brought back.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11744964


Riiiiight.

"Her skin had already started hardening".

You've obviously made up your mind that for someone to be revived from the dead, they weren't actually dead to begin with, despite the evidence that is right in front of your face.

Clearly no point discussing this with you. You're convinced you're right. Nothing's going to change that.
 Quoting: Lumen


That was my reaction as well...

I'm most interested in cases where individuals in traumatic situations experienced non-local consciousness. Particularly this story of a woman who was badly injured in a terrible auto accident. Essentially she flatlined on her way to the hospital due to extreme blood less while being flown to the nearest trauma unit 45 minutes away. Her family was waiting outside the ICU as the Doctors worked to try and bring her back to life. Of course she eventually came back to life but what was most telling, was that she later described floating around the hospital and was able to describe a conversation that her family members had while they were anxiously waiting to hear about her condition from the doctors. She provided specific details about an exchange in a separate part of the hospital between her family members that were never relayed to her after she regained a pulse/heartbeat. Her family of course was absolutely floored at her ability to provide that information because her physical body was in the ICU with no brain activity and no pulse.

Of course there are also accounts of individuals undergoing surgery where they describe being above their body and watching the doctors perform work on them. Individuals being able to recount exchanges between the doctors & nurses (some not so nice exchanges), and one fascinating tale of a woman who was later able to describe a very unique/special surgical tool that the doctor utilized while working on her skull/brain that was not physically visible in the operating room before she was wheeled in and subsequently put under anesthesia.

I'm on board. cool2
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Translocation is a reality. One does not have to have a near death experience to recognize this. It is possible through Self-realization to move through space and make your presence felt by another who is sensitive to same in a physically different location.

This is not conjecture. It is fact.

How do I know?

Because I can do it.

 Quoting: Seraph777


How did you come about this discovery?

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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DOES THAT WORD THREATEN YOU OP ?
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 Quoting: Seraph777


Translocation is a reality. One does not have to have a near death experience to recognize this. It is possible through Self-realization to move through space and make your presence felt by another who is sensitive to same in a physically different location.

This is not conjecture. It is fact.

How do I know?

Because I can do it.

 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


How did you come about this discovery?


I don't want to speak for Seraph, but it takes years of hard work, dedication, perseverance, patience and practice.

I personally have a long way to go.
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1star for being such an obnoxious child with your opening statement !
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There are four souls that inhabit this body other than my own

322 is master number because of the shape.

3 is the smallest pyramid you can have 2 is the base 2 twos are two bases. this is becase to have any other number is more work to complete the pyramid if distruction of one complete pyramid, 3 being the only complete pyramid. ONE EYE TO RULE ALL. 2 is the highest population possible with out dividing rule. ONE OVERLORD.

Nobody knows
everybody knows
nobody cares
everybody cares
nobody understands
everybody understands
nobody hears
everybody hears
nobody sees
everybody sees

dont waste your time on hate and regret, your frozen.

overcome fear over come fear of death win life.
eYe'll be there for U
Y U?
thats all that eXist.


mark this spot
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Riiiiight.

"Her skin had already started hardening".

You've obviously made up your mind that for someone to be revived from the dead, they weren't actually dead to begin with, despite the evidence that is right in front of your face.

Clearly no point discussing this with you. You're convinced you're right. Nothing's going to change that.
 Quoting: Lumen


That was my reaction as well...

I'm most interested in cases where individuals in traumatic situations experienced non-local consciousness. Particularly this story of a woman who was badly injured in a terrible auto accident. Essentially she flatlined on her way to the hospital due to extreme blood less while being flown to the nearest trauma unit 45 minutes away. Her family was waiting outside the ICU as the Doctors worked to try and bring her back to life. Of course she eventually came back to life but what was most telling, was that she later described floating around the hospital and was able to describe a conversation that her family members had while they were anxiously waiting to hear about her condition from the doctors. She provided specific details about an exchange in a separate part of the hospital between her family members that were never relayed to her after she regained a pulse/heartbeat. Her family of course was absolutely floored at her ability to provide that information because her physical body was in the ICU with no brain activity and no pulse.

Of course there are also accounts of individuals undergoing surgery where they describe being above their body and watching the doctors perform work on them. Individuals being able to recount exchanges between the doctors & nurses (some not so nice exchanges), and one fascinating tale of a woman who was later able to describe a very unique/special surgical tool that the doctor utilized while working on her skull/brain that was not physically visible in the operating room before she was wheeled in and subsequently put under anesthesia.

I'm on board. cool2
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Translocation is a reality. One does not have to have a near death experience to recognize this. It is possible through Self-realization to move through space and make your presence felt by another who is sensitive to same in a physically different location.

This is not conjecture. It is fact.

How do I know?

Because I can do it.

 Quoting: Seraph777


How did you come about this discovery?
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


It is a long story. I will attempt to keep the response question specific.

How did you come about this discovery?

When one realizes who One really is the physical form is seen as a temporary vehicle within an energetic field. This field is in a relative sense (only relative) a truer identity than that which is perceived to be self through the mind, body or emotions. It is recognized that the physical form exists within this field and this field has the capacity on this plane to move through space whilst maintaining a corded link to the current human incarnation. With reference to others. I have connected throughout the world with and without Skype and then projected in meditation. The experiences of aspirants are all different though the thread is similar.

Any further elaboration is best question driven.

Seraph
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You sheeple are so dumb. Yay I goin be reincarnated. Fucking idiots.
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Can you even fathom how different the world would be if everybody was taught and knew that reincarnation is truth, and how our God is truly a God of love.

Contrast that with what most organized religions teach, fear of God or the wrath of God, all fear based teachings. All to control the flock.

God wants ALL soul fragments to come back of their own free will in love, not because the soul fears the consequences of man made laws or perceptions(hell).
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You sheeple are so dumb. Yay I goin be reincarnated. Fucking idiots.
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Can you even fathom how different the world would be if everybody was taught and knew that reincarnation is truth, and how our God is truly a God of love.

Contrast that with what most organized religions teach, fear of God or the wrath of God, all fear based teachings. All to control the flock.

God wants ALL soul fragments to come back of their own free will in love, not because the soul fears the consequences of man made laws or perceptions(hell).
 Quoting: ATONTRUTH

When u think about it, it really can be no other way
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"we were never meant to learn in such misery, and pain"

Oh, so how else do we burn off our envy and hate baggage.

Easy to say LOVE....hard to do it.

Easy to quote allagorical biblical sayings....but, thou dost not nowith the begatting in store for thou.

It's a brilliant scenario for fake humans to do fear, judgement, and pitty parties.

Go upstairs, look in the mirror and tell yourself the truth....

Religion is the biggest baby pasifier ever.

The truth is....we are flawed and need lessons so that our souls are pure, with integrity...you cannot passify, fake this.

It has to be burned in and a complete part of you.
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What does "paper asshole" mean?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11719613


Pulling statements out his ass! hf
 Quoting: Joker


Thanks, I did not know that...LOL

The whole human body is a swallowing sphincter from mouth to anus. Pulsating and undulating 24/7.

Reverse that natural body thing, and we have you, regurgitating sensless verbage. Hows it taste?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11719613


Tastes good friend, tastes good! lol
 Quoting: Joker


I get it...LOL,,,you Joker you...
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Suicide is telling who ever, I Quit. I'm not playing you game of unending torture. I quit this hell.
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My experience has been that this particular lifetime for me has involved acknowledging and healing a LOT of emotions from a LOT of past lifetimes. ...I believe we have to eventually reconcile all that our soul has experienced--all that it may have ignorantly (or willfully) perpetrated, as well as ways it has been a victim, throughout its many, many physical expressions. Feelings of intense sadness, regret, guilt, shame, fear, etc., that have no reasonable basis in this lifetime, are found to logically have their origin in a previous existence, once the concept of 'reincarnation' is accepted. Sometimes themes seem to keep repeating, lifetime after lifetime, and are true 'blind spots' for us, until we finally do the hard work of unearthing and honing in on them.

When we are able to handle it, I believe we do begin to sense ourselves as larger entities, and therefore become aware of our larger connections and pasts with others. We sense the types of past connections and relationships we might have had with those in our current lives, when we are able to hand the responsibility of such knowledge. Yes--seeing the truth of one's past can be rough-going...but it is eventually a great peace, to be able to face all of one's..and others'... "dark corners" and accept that it is all part of the human drama.

I hesitate to use the term "reincarnate," as each incarnation is a unique expression. To put it into a rough "3-D" perspective, earth-bound physical and personality traits combine with some of a soul's essence for a manifestation never to be repeated again. At least that's how I see it, at this time.

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You dont really know do you? Only God knows, and he tells us in the Bible.
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Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
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Life itself is very temporary in the scheme of things.
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no such thing as reincarntion. one shot get it right, believe Jesus.

Hebrews 9:27

King James Version (KJV)

27And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:


In John 8:24 Jesus declared: “For if you should not believe that I am [ego eimi] you will perish in your sins”

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No. All the negativity attached to suicide is by TPTB. They dont want their cattle killign themselves.

IMO nothing different happens.
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If you commit suicide you will come back and have to go through the same all over again except it will be twice as hard. Everything happens in life is just a problem to be solved and there is always a way through no matter how hard life becomes. Taking what seems the easy way out, only in the long run will make it harder on you. Until you break through the problems you have and learn and move forward you will keep repeating the same situations over and over until you do. This is how you evolve. No matter how hard you think your life is there is always someone else out there who has a worse one.

It will be you however that chooses to come back to do it all over again, because you cannot go further until you get through your problem, or will become stagnent and you will not move further on to the next lesson.

Hope this makes sense to you.
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Still sounds like torture.

Rules = Evil

We are trapped in a cycle of reincarnation with our memories wiped out against our freewill
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12283544


Actually thats not true.

You completely and whole heartedly agreed otherwise it couldn't be done. You're coming from a victim mentality because you can't experience being a victim when you are one with all conciousness.

Remember you are not what you think you are and you are what you think you are not.
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Your soul chooses to be reincarnated. We all chose to come to earth. We all wanted our souls to evolve and learn from the experience while at the same time try to help a new species (humans) to evolve off the planet and into the stars with the rest of our people. Humans are a breeding ground for somewhat evolved souls who are trying to learn more.

We keep coming back until were done learning or until were done coming back. Some keep coming back to be with family. some who have no family or no children to attach them here, end of leaving earth or just watching from above within the mind of god.

We are all god , all our souls are part of god, we are one, we are everything. God bless us all!

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