Is a non binary computing systm feasible ? how about ternary and more | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12284095 United States 03/10/2012 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes it is. I designed something of this nature a few years ago and it still uses the basic binary format. Rather Ternary isn't hard in software it's making the hardware behave that fits it. With certain advancement in hardware no especially with transistors or gates we can move to ternary logic, higher, or even a combination of them. There are people here who left details on a similar system but it's fractal based look for the posts. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12229556 United States 03/10/2012 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes it is. I designed something of this nature a few years ago and it still uses the basic binary format. Rather Ternary isn't hard in software it's making the hardware behave that fits it. With certain advancement in hardware no especially with transistors or gates we can move to ternary logic, higher, or even a combination of them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12284095 There are people here who left details on a similar system but it's fractal based look for the posts. The hardware isn't too difficult and in fact there are ternary sections built into modern processors for some functions |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2148082 United States 03/10/2012 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A novel rf-SQUID flux qubit that is robust against fabrication variations in Josephson junction critical currents and device inductance has been implemented. Measurements of the persistent current and of the tunneling energy between the two lowest lying states, both in the coherent and incoherent regime, are presented. These experimental results are shown to be in agreement with predictions of a quantum mechanical Hamiltonian whose parameters were independently calibrated, thus justifying the identification of this device as a flux qubit. In addition, measurements of the flux and critical current noise spectral densities are presented that indicate that these devices with Nb wiring are comparable to the best Al wiring rf-SQUIDs reported in the literature thusfar, with a 1/f flux noise spectral density at 1Hz of . An explicit formula for converting the observed flux noise spectral density into a free induction decay time for a flux qubit biased to its optimal point and operated in the energy eigenbasis is presented. [link to dwave.wordpress.com] Computational operations are performed by pulsing the qubit with microwave frequency radiation which has an energy comparable to that of the gap between the energy of the two basis states. Properly selected frequencies can put the qubit into a quantum superposition of the two basis states while subsequent pulses can manipulate the probability weighting that the qubit will be measured in either of the two basis states, thus performing a computational operation. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8778208 Australia 03/10/2012 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would depend on what you were attempting to accomplish as the cost and wasted resources can make it impractical Quantum computing will have no limit Hmm, interesting. Now if you where REALLY wanting to be helpful you could explain quantum computing for me? haha. Is it still binary? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1152779 United States 03/10/2012 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Binary is the universal language. if there were folks on Mars.... they would evolve to use binary in computers of their own design. A third level serves what purpose? Yes/No/Maybe. How would you define logic with a wildcard? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12229556 United States 03/10/2012 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Binary is the universal language. if there were folks on Mars.... they would evolve to use binary in computers of their own design. A third level serves what purpose? Yes/No/Maybe. How would you define logic with a wildcard? What could possibly make you come to that conclusion? Binary is not necessary as it was unused at all during the most far reaching periods of human advancement |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1152779 United States 03/10/2012 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Binary is the universal language. if there were folks on Mars.... they would evolve to use binary in computers of their own design. A third level serves what purpose? Yes/No/Maybe. How would you define logic with a wildcard? What could possibly make you come to that conclusion? Binary is not necessary as it was unused at all during the most far reaching periods of human advancement Binary is how we translate human to machine. the binary of "hello" is 0110100001100101011011000110110001101111 change the last bit to "0" and hello becomes helln you cant have a third tier. Am I missing something? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12229556 United States 03/10/2012 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Binary is the universal language. if there were folks on Mars.... they would evolve to use binary in computers of their own design. A third level serves what purpose? Yes/No/Maybe. How would you define logic with a wildcard? What could possibly make you come to that conclusion? Binary is not necessary as it was unused at all during the most far reaching periods of human advancement Binary is how we translate human to machine. the binary of "hello" is 0110100001100101011011000110110001101111 change the last bit to "0" and hello becomes helln you cant have a third tier. Am I missing something? You sure are you are arguing for binary by using binary as the argument |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1152779 United States 03/10/2012 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1152779 Binary is the universal language. if there were folks on Mars.... they would evolve to use binary in computers of their own design. A third level serves what purpose? Yes/No/Maybe. How would you define logic with a wildcard? What could possibly make you come to that conclusion? Binary is not necessary as it was unused at all during the most far reaching periods of human advancement Binary is how we translate human to machine. the binary of "hello" is 0110100001100101011011000110110001101111 change the last bit to "0" and hello becomes helln you cant have a third tier. Am I missing something? You sure are you are arguing for binary by using binary as the argument Ok, Give me an example of a ??? that can be defined or expressed by ??? I'm not trying to be difficult. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12284095 United States 03/10/2012 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Binary is how we translate human to machine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1152779 the binary of "hello" is 0110100001100101011011000110110001101111 change the last bit to "0" and hello becomes helln you cant have a third tier. Am I missing something? Yes you can if you understand that a lot of what we do at the higher levels involves translating. You can never change the 010101 factor without moving over to something similar but that allows for more. Not only that you don't need to add anything else. You could simple say it's 0, 1, or both. hardware this is problem in software it's not machines process numbers far more accurately than a human is likely too. The problem with machines is not the speed but the fact have no complexity without us and even worse they cannot be various mixtures like a chemical can be. Someone already explained it here. Group the numbers and come up with a standards based on vectorizing how they behave. The problem most have with binary they see it like a light switch that only goes off an on. Anyone who understand light switches especially ones that lit you dim at a variety of diferent levels knows they are rapidly being flicked on off to get that illusion. Same princple as the person already talking about this subject has tried to get across. No I'm not talking about the op. I'm going to say this again for my friend Tptb know about this and don't want most having this power. Anyone who understands what quantum computing brings to the tables know it's not something that people who are control freaks can merely put the lid on. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12284095 United States 03/10/2012 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Russians built a ternary computer... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12283047 The implementantion in hardware is more difficult and is not as cheap as a binary computer... Fuck yeah......Because a computer that works in ternary should be easier to do than something that on the basic princples of numbers is far more simple. Love when stupid humans talk. |
IRQ_1 User ID: 1157608 United States 03/10/2012 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Russians built a ternary computer... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12283047 The implementantion in hardware is more difficult and is not as cheap as a binary computer... Fuck yeah......Because a computer that works in ternary should be easier to do than something that on the basic princples of numbers is far more simple. Love when stupid humans talk. How do you do something that is one thing or another OR SOMETHING ELSE? Jack of all trades master of none "shall not be infringed." BLUE RIBBON AWARNESS FOR MENS' HEALTH Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. --ISAAC ASIMOV I never 'Ad hominem' I don't need to. The Constitution means everything or nothing. You can't have both. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12284095 United States 03/10/2012 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not something else it's both. Something else would be something entirely different than 0 1 and both. Look up boolean logic and ternary it will explain it in far less than time and easier than I'm going to bother too. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12146547 United States 03/10/2012 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe this is a stupid question but why does it matter? Isn't the end result the only real determining factor? with binary computers we can do all sorts of things, and they are only getting faster. So now we should switch to a new type of CPU for what reason??? I understand this would be beneficial for quantum computers where a qubit could be at any of like 32 different readable states. Yet even then, the logic behind those 32 different states will still be read as 1 or 0, on or off. So even if a computer system like what the OP hopes for is possible, I see no reason it would be better/ |