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NOTHING HERE IS MY OPINION. EVERYTHING IS DIRECT FROM THE BIBLES WORDS AND FACTS!

PLEASE READ RESEARCH AND SHARE WITH ALL YOU LOVE! SALVATION IS AT HAND!

Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

2 Corinthians 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Yahshua, whom we have not preached, or [if] ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with [him].

Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

Mark 13:6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am [Christ]; and shall deceive many.

TRUTH VS. LIES
YAHSHUA MESSIAH VS. JESUS CHRIST!

JESUS
“Jesus” (pronounced /ˈdʒiːzəs/) is a ----> transliteration, occurring in a number of languages and ----> based on the Latin ---> Iesus, of the Greek Ἰησοῦς ----> (Iēsoûs), itself a ----> "Hell"enisation
------> of the -----> Hebrew (Yĕhōšuă‘, Joshua) or Hebrew-Aramaic יֵשׁוּעַ ----> (Yēšûă‘),
meaning -----> "Yahweh delivers (or rescues)".[38][39][40] "Christ" (pronounced /ˈkraɪst/) is a title derived from the Greek Χριστός (Christós), meaning the "Anointed One", a translation of the Hebrew מָשִׁיחַ (Messiah).



FIRST ---> Yahshua, Yeshua, Yehoshua, Y'Shua, Iesous, Iesus, Hesus and last JESUS!

2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Yahshua Messiah is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Yahshua Messiah is come in the flesh is not of Yahweh: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Yahshua is the Messiah? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

Jeremiah 51:45 My people, go ye out of the midst of her, and deliver ye every man his soul from the fierce anger of Yahweh.


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Isaiah 45:5 I [am] Yahweh, and [there is] none else, [there is] no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:


FACTS REMAIN! JESUS WAS NOT CHRISTS NAME AND IT WAS CHANGED INTO THE NAME OF SATANIC GODS AND DEMONS!

YAHWEH
In the Bible, YHWH is one name of the God of Israel who delivered Israel from Egypt and gave the Ten Commandments: "Then God spoke all these words. He said, ‘I am Yahweh your God who brought you out of Egypt, where you lived as slaves. You shall have no other gods to rival me.’”[1] Yahweh revealed himself to Israel as a God who would not permit his people to make idols or follow gods of other nations[2] or worship gods known by other names, "I am Yahweh, that is My name; I will not give My glory to another, or My praise to idols."[3] Yahweh demanded the role of the one true God in the hearts and minds of Israel, "Hear, Israel: Yahweh is our God; Yahweh is one: and you shall love Yahweh your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might."[4]

YAHSHUA
Yahshua is a transliteration of the original Hebrew or Aramaic name of Jesus commonly used by individuals in the Sacred Name Movement. It is believed by some[who?] that this is the correct transliteration of the Hebrew יהושע (yod-he-waw-shin-ayin - usually transliterated as Yehoshua or Y'hoshua in scholarly contexts), which means "Yahweh is Salvation." The form Yahshua is used in some Sacred Name Bibles, including the Restoration Original Sacred Name Bible, Word of Yahweh and the Sacred Name King James Bible.

Those who follow Sacred Name teachings (such as the Assemblies of Yahweh) believe that it is essential to salvation to use the correct pronunciation.[citation needed]

"Yahshua" supporters teach that since the Messiah will "come in his Father's Name",[citation needed] then he must have the name of Yahweh, or at least the abbreviated form (Yah) in his spoken name.

"Yahshua" uses the same Hebrew consonants as Y'hoshua (Joshua), but assigns a somewhat different set of vowels. The vast majority of Sacred Name groups use יהושע instead of יהושה ("Yahshuah"). Another popular contraction is Yah'shua with the apostrophe ( ’ ) serving as a division to emphasise[citation needed] the "Yah" aspect of the name and the Hebrew shua (salvation), found in the Natural Israelite Bible, English Version.

VS.

JESUS
“Jesus” (pronounced /ˈdʒiːzəs/) is a transliteration, occurring in a number of languages and based on the Latin Iesus, of the Greek Ἰησοῦς (Iēsoûs), itself a Hellenisation of the Hebrew יְהוֹשֻׁ&#150​6;ַ (Yĕhōšuă‘, Joshua) or Hebrew-Aramaic יֵשׁוּעַ (Yēšûă‘), meaning "Yahweh delivers (or rescues)".[38][39][40]

ESUS
Esus or Hesus was a Gaulish god known from two monumental statues and a line in Lucan's Bellum civile.

A well-known section in Lucan's Bellum civile talks about the gory sacrificial offerings proffered to a triad of Celtic deities: Teutates, Hesus (an aspirated form of Esus), and Taranis.[1] Among a pair of later commentators on Lucan's work, one identifies Teutates with Mercury and Esus with Mars. According to the Berne Commentary on Lucan, human victims were sacrificed to Esus by being tied to a tree and flailed.[2]

BAAL = THE LORD
Ba`al means "The lord" who ruled over the high gods assembled on the holy mount of Heaven. (As a redaction: this is not an entirely clear point. El (literally "god") or Elohim (literally "gods") was actually the father God of the gods in Canon. El was asked to help Baal when he was slain by Mot, god of the underworld. El could not prevent Baal's death, but Baal was reborn anyway.) Baal was mainly a god of the sun, rain, thunder, fertility and agriculture and at some point, he overtakes the god of the water, Yam. Baal is the son of the god Dagan or Dagon, another Semitic Cannonite god. It was this "god of the grain" that allowed Baal to be reborn.

Originally, the Semitic god Hadad - also called Baal - was worshipped by Arameans who brought his worship to other parts of the Mediterranean. Early demonologists, unaware of Hadad or that "Ba`al" in the Bible referred to any number of local spirits, came to regard the term as referring to but one personage. Until archaeological digs at Ras Shamra and Ebla uncovered texts explaining the Syrian pantheon, the Ba‘al Zebûb (or Beelzebub) was frequently confused with various Semitic gods Ba‘al, and in some Christian writings it might refer to a high-ranking devil or to Satan himself.

JE-HOVAH?

1943. hovah
a ruin, disaster
Original Word: הֹוָה
Transliteration: hovah
Phonetic Spelling: (ho-vaw')
Short Definition: disaster
Word Origin
from havah
Definition
a ruin, disaster
NASB Word Usage
disaster (3).

NAS Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible with Hebrew-Aramaic and Greek Dictionaries
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THE LETTER J ----> (1478–1550)
J originated as a swash character to end some Roman numerals in place of i. A distinctive usage emerged in Middle High German.[3] Gian Giorgio Trissino (1478–1550) was the first to explicitly distinguish I and J as representing separate sounds, in his Ɛpistola del Trissino de le lettere nuωvamente aggiunte ne la lingua italiana ("Trissino's epistle about the letters recently added in the Italian language") of 1524.[4] Originally, both I and J repesented /i/, /iː/, and /j/; but Romance languages developed new sounds (from former /j/ and /ɡ/) that came to be represented as I and J; therefore, English J, acquired from the French J, has a sound value quite different from /j/ (which represents the sound in the English word "yet").

FACTS AND POINTS!

1) J DIDN'T EXIST UNTIL 500 YEARS AGO!

2) YAHWEH IS THE NAME OF THE GOD OF THE BIBLE!

3) YAHSHUA IS THE NAME OF THE SON OF YAHWEH THE CHRIST!

4) JESUS IS THE LAST OF 8 TRANSLATIONS!

5) LORD IS THE NAME OF BAAL ALSO KNOWN AS BEELZEBUB, SATAN HIMSELF!

6) HOVAH = MISCHIEF, DISASTER OR A RUIN!

7) ESUS / HESUS IS THE NAME OF A SATANIC HUMAN HATING AND TORTURING GOD.



YAHWEH AND YAHSHUA VS. JESUS AND LORD


Act's 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Jesus is the last of over 8 translations. So If there is no other name under heaven given to men and Jesus is 8 times changed then what does it make the name of Jesus? 100% False!

Mark 13:6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

---> Yahshua was first and means Yahweh is Salvation thus the saving name. Then came Yehoshua, Yeshua, Y'shua, 4 Beasts ---> Iesous, Iesus, Hesus and finally Jesus.

Daniel 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.

Ie-Sous, Ie-sus, He-Sus, Je-Sus. Gee-Sus = Hail Zeus in Greek.

Both Jesus and a Satanic God Esus have the same names.

Jesus aka IE-Sous, Ie-Sus, He-Sus and Lord and Master.
Esus aka Hesus, Lord and Master.

John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

Yah-shu-a = Yah-weh How does Jesus come in the name of Yahweh?

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Yahshua is the Messiah? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

Jesus followers say Jesus is God, Denying both The Father Yahweh and His Son Yahshua.

John 3:16For Yahweh so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For Yahweh sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in THE NAME of the only begotten Son of Yahweh.

2 Thessalonians 2:3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom Yahweh shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause Yahweh shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness

1 John 4:1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of Yahweh: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2Hereby know ye the Spirit of Yahweh: Every spirit that confesseth that Yahshua Messiah is come in the flesh is of Yahweh: 3And every spirit that confesseth not that Yahshua Messiah is come in the flesh is not of Yahweh: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 4Ye are of Yahweh, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. 5They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. 6We are of Yahweh: he that knoweth Yahweh heareth us; he that is not of Yahweh heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.


Will you really take a chance at loosing your salvation using a False 8 time's translated name for salvation?

If so. Why not call on Hector to save your soul?

AGAIN!!!!! DANGER JESUS IS THE ANTICHRIST!

Revelation 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a LOUD VOICE, If any man worship ---> the beast and ----> his image, and ----> receive his mark in----> his forehead, or in his hand, 10The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of Yahweh, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship ----> the beast and ----> his image, and whosoever
----> receiveth the mark of his name. 12Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of Yahweh, and the faith of JYahshua.

100% FALSE IMAGE WORSHIPED = JESUS
100% FALSE NAME ACCEPTED = JESUS
100% FALSE SABBATH ON SUNDAY
THE MARK OF HIS NAME A CROSS IN ASH ON PEOPLE'S FOREHEADS!

KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS!! THE CHURCH IS 100% NOT FOLLOWING THE COMMANDMENTS!! NOR ARE JESUS FOLLOWERS.

EXODUS 20
2 I am YAHWEH your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery;

3 Do not have any other gods before me.

4 You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I YAHWEH your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me,

6 but showing steadfast love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments.

7 You shall not take of the name of YAHWEH thy God in vain, for YAHWEH will not acquit anyone who takes his name in vain.

8 Remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy.

9 For six days you shall labour and do all your work.

10 But the seventh day is a Sabbath to YaAHWEH your God; you shall not do any work—you, your son or your daughter, your male or female slave, your livestock, or the alien resident in your towns.

11 For in six days YAHWEH made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but rested the seventh day; therefore YAHWEH blessed the Sabbath day and consecrated it.

12 Honor your father and your mother, so that your days may be long in the land that YAHWEH your God is giving you.

13 You shall not murder.

14 You shall not commit adultery.

15 You shall not steal.

16 You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

17 You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.

CHURCH OF JESUS COMMANDMENT VIOLATIONS

1) NO OTHER GOD'S BEFORE YAHWEH.
2) IDOL WORSHIP JESUS IMAGE, THE CROSS, ANGELS, SAINTS, ETC.
3) REJECTION OF YAHWEH BY REMOVING HIS NAME.
4) REJECTION OF THE COMMANDMENTS.
5) TAKING THE NAME OF YAHWEH AND YAHSHUA IN VAIN.
6) REJECTION OF THE SABBATH DAY CHANGED TO SUNDAY.
7) MURDER IN JESUS NAME. EX. SPANISH INQUISITION, ETC. ETC.
8) SPIRITUAL ADULTERY LEAVING YAHWEH FOR JESUS.
9) THEFT BY THE CHURCH AS THEY TAKE MONEY AND PROPERTY.
10) FALSE WITNESS AS JESUS IS NOT THE SAVIOR.
11) COVETING AS THE CHURCH ASKS FOR MONEY AND PROPERTY.

1 Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of YAHWEH.


AGAIN I ASK. FRIEND OR FOE. BELIEVER OR NON BELIEVER. CHRISTIAN, CATHOLIC, MUSLIM, jewish OR JEHOVAHS WITNESS. EVERYONE PLEASE SHARE THIS MESSAGE WITH YOUR SMARTEST FRIENDS, FAMILY MEMBERS, TEACHERS, PREACHERS AND CHURCH LEADERS.

TEST IT FOR TRUTH AND FACTS.

LIKE I TELL EVERYONE. IF ONE SINGLE WORD IS FALSE THEN EVERYTHING I HAVE SAID IS A LIE!

PLEASE I BEG OF YOU ALL! RESEARCH AND REPOST THIS INFORMATION!


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10 COMMANDMENTS! SEE IF THE CHURCH OF JESUS IS FOLLOWING THEM.
Exodus 20
1 Then God spoke all these words. He said,

2 'I am Yahweh your God who brought you out of Egypt, where you lived as slaves.

3 'You shall have no other gods to rival me.

4 'You shall not make yourself a carved image or any likeness of anything in heaven above or on earth beneath or in the waters under the earth.

5 'You shall not bow down to them or serve them. For I, Yahweh your God, am a jealous God and I punish a parent's fault in the children, the grandchildren, and the great-grandchildren among those who hate me;

6 but I act with faithful love towards thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.

7 'You shall not take the name of Yahweh your God in vain, for Yahweh will not hold him guilt less who takes his name in vain.

8 'Remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy.

9 For six days you shall labour and do all your work,

10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath for Yahweh your God. You shall do no work that day, neither you nor your son nor your daughter nor your servants, men or women, nor your animals nor the alien living with you.

11 For in six days Yahweh made the heavens, earth and sea and all that these contain, but on the seventh day he rested; that is why Yahweh has blessed the Sabbath day and made it sacred.

12 'Honour your father and your mother so that you may live long in the land that Yahweh your God is giving you.

13 'You shall not kill.

14 'You shall not commit adultery.

15 'You shall not steal.

16 'You shall not give false evidence against your neighbour.

17 'You shall not set your heart on your neighbour's house. You shall not set your heart on your neighbour's spouse, or servant, man or woman, or ox, or donkey, or any of your neighbour's possessions.'

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I believe that the creator/ god created everything black and white good and bad.
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Jesus / Iesus / Hesus / Esus = Satan
Je-Hovah / Hovah / A Ruin Mischief a Disaster
Lord / Baal / Beelzebub = Satan
God / Gawd / Gad = Pagan Deity
Amen / Amun Ra = Egyptian Sun-God

Isaiah
43:11 Isaiah 43:11
Hebrew Study Bible (Apostolic
/ Interlinear)אָנֹכִ֥​י אָנֹכִ֖י יְהוָ֑ה וְאֵ֥ין מִבַּלְע&#146​4;דַ֖י
מֹושִֽׁי&#150​6;ַ׃ KJV with Strong's
I even I am Yahweh and beside me there is no saviour.

Hosea 13:4 Yet I am Yahweh thy God from the land of Egypt and thou shalt
know no god but me for there is no saviour beside me.

Jeremiah
23:27 Which
think to cause my people to forget my name by their dreams which they
tell every man to his neighbour, as their fathers have forgotten my name
for Baal. = (THE LORD)

John 3:16For Yahweh so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that
whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17For Yahweh sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the
world through him might be saved. YEHOSHUA ...
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1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Yahshua is the Messiah? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

this statement here is referring to the denier as the antichrist not Yahshua(or Jesus) unless you're saying that Jesus denies Yahshua.

also i thought the word antichrist and/or rapture weren't in the bible?!?!
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Thanks for spreading truth OP.. Some may say it's the intent behind worship or w/e that counts. I slightly agree. If I, the OP, and a number of others can do the homework and research to know the truth, then so can the rest of the population. But people are too lazy and would rather have some priest think for them. Great post OP
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HOW FOOLISH
YESHUA MESSIAH VS. JESUS CHRIST
WHAT UTTER CRAP!

YESHUA IS HEBREW FOR JOSHUA

JOSHUA MEANS THE LORD SAVES


THE GREEK FOR JOSHUA IS Yesous

AND THAT IN ENGLISH IS JESUS



JESUS IS
YESHUA (JOSHUA- THE LORD SAVES)

The Messiah’s Hebrew name is usually transliterated as either Yeshua or Yahshua. Under normal circumstances I would not bother to write an article about something as trivial as the difference between the vowel sounds "e" and "ah." There is a need to address the subject, though, because some people who use the Yahshua form say untrue things about those who use the Yeshua form. The opponents of the Yeshua form claim that this pronunciation is the result of a Jewish conspiracy to hide the Savior’s true name. Those who call the Messiah Yeshua are accused of perpetuating a Jewish conspiracy and "denying His name" or "degrading Him" by their use of the Yeshua form. If you have never read or heard these outlandish accusations, you probably will eventually. From time to time I receive personal letters to this effect.

The proponents of the Yahshua form claim that the Messiah’s name was the same as Joshua’s, written [vwhy or [wvwhy (Strong’s #3091). The only problem is that neither of these Hebrew spellings of Joshua’s name can possibly be pronounced "Yahshua." The third letter in Joshua’s name (reading from right to left) is the letter vav (w) and a vav cannot be silent. The letter vav must be pronounced as either a "v" or an "o" or an "u." (In the case of Joshua, it takes an "o" sound, giving us "Ye-ho-SHU-a." Strong’s confirms this pronunciation.) For a name to be pronounced "Yahshua," it would have to be spelled [wv--hy, and no such name exists anywhere in the Hebrew Bible. You don’t have to just take my word for it, though. Dr. Danny Ben-Gigi says of the Yahshua form that "there is no such name in Hebrew" and that "people invented it to fit their theology."[1] Dr. Ben-Gigi is an Israeli and the former head of Hebrew programs at Arizona State University. He is the author of the book First Steps in Hebrew Prayers, and he designed and produced the "Living Israeli Hebrew" language-learning course. Dr. David Bivin, a Christian, says that the Yahshua form "is rooted in a misunderstanding."[2] Dr. Bivin is a renowned Hebrew scholar and teacher and author of Fluent Biblical Hebrew.

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Interesting read. Thanks for posting.
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EVERYONE AND THE THREAD AUTHOR

it is the blasphemy against the holy spirit
to say jesus is satan
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to the decieved deciever who posted this thread

what do you think
Yahshua means ?

what name is it in english

apart from the fact that Yahshua is not how it is said in any language but forget that for the moment
what name is english is it?

IS IT NOT JOSHUA?

OK THEN LOOK UP THE WORD FOR JOSHUA
IN GREEK!

AND YOU WILL FIND IT TO BE JESUS

SO YOU POST IS BEYOND REDICULOUS

BUT IT IS ALSO SERIOUS
BECAUSE
YOU ARE ACTUALLY BLAPSHEMING GOD'S NAME
AND BLAPSHEMING THE HOLY SPIRIT
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wtf, this is sick.. man REALLY tha fuck?
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What a mess.
Knowing the evils of soul, that is understanding.

Departing from the soul's evil, that is wisdom.
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ALSO WHAT WOULD THE POINT BE OF SPEAKING IN TOGUES?

YOU FOOLS

. 4And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

5And there were dwelling at Jerusalem jewish people, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. 6Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. 7And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? 8And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? 9Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, 10Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, jewish people and proselytes, 11Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God. 12And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this? 13Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.
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EVERYONE AND THE THREAD AUTHOR

it is the blasphemy against the holy spirit
to say jesus is satan
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You have to know what the Holy Spirit is to begin with to speak blasphemy against it.

Revelations from the Father is what it would be, not the name of a dead man.
Knowing the evils of soul, that is understanding.

Departing from the soul's evil, that is wisdom.
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ALL YOU SATANISTS ON THIS FORUM YOU WILL RECIEVE WHAT YOU WISH FOR

HELL

UNLESS YOU REPENT!
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THE LORD IS GOD

JESUS CHRIST IS LORD

SO WHO IS GOD?

JESUS IS GOD
THE MIGHTY GOD THE EVERLASTING FATHER THE PRINCE OF PEACE
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AND GLP MODS
POSTS SUCH AS THIS THREAD ARE NOT RELIGIOUS FREEDOM POSTS
THEY ARE A NONSENSICAL ATTACK DEVOID OF ANY LOGIC

SAO THEY ARE NOT FREE SPEECH DEBATE THREADS EITHER

THEY ARE SATANIC LIES AND DECEPTIONS

THROUGH AND THROUGH
AND THEY HAVE NO MERIT AND SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED FOR THEY ARE NOT REASONABLE AND ARE NOT BASED UPON ANY TRUTH WHATSOEVER
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AND GLP MODS
POSTS SUCH AS THIS THREAD ARE NOT RELIGIOUS FREEDOM POSTS
THEY ARE A NONSENSICAL ATTACK DEVOID OF ANY LOGIC

SAO THEY ARE NOT FREE SPEECH DEBATE THREADS EITHER

THEY ARE SATANIC LIES AND DECEPTIONS

THROUGH AND THROUGH
AND THEY HAVE NO MERIT AND SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED FOR THEY ARE NOT REASONABLE AND ARE NOT BASED UPON ANY TRUTH WHATSOEVER
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How is it void of any logic? Your stupid posts and RANTS provide NO RESEARCH, NO EVIDENCE, NO SOURCE.. NOTHING! OP used EVIDENCE to back up his claim.. WHERE IS YOURS?
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ACCORDING TO THE ENGLISH ALPHABET
A IS THE FRIST LETTER

THAT IS A FORM OF REFERENCE FOR A DEBATE ON THE ENGLISH ALPHABET

THE SAME GOES FOR LANGUAGES AND A BIBLICAL DEBATE

FACTS ARE FACTS
IT IS THAT SIMPLE
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POSTS SUCH AS THIS THREAD ARE NOT RELIGIOUS FREEDOM POSTS
THEY ARE A NONSENSICAL ATTACK DEVOID OF ANY LOGIC

SAO THEY ARE NOT FREE SPEECH DEBATE THREADS EITHER

THEY ARE SATANIC LIES AND DECEPTIONS

THROUGH AND THROUGH
AND THEY HAVE NO MERIT AND SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED FOR THEY ARE NOT REASONABLE AND ARE NOT BASED UPON ANY TRUTH WHATSOEVER
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How is it void of any logic? Your stupid posts and RANTS provide NO RESEARCH, NO EVIDENCE, NO SOURCE.. NOTHING! OP used EVIDENCE to back up his claim.. WHERE IS YOURS?
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THAT IS A LIE


The Messiah's Hebrew Name: "Yeshua" Or "Yahshua"?

by Dr. Daniel Botkin

Dr. Daniel Botkin explains the Hebrew linguistics of the names "Yeshua" and "Yahshua" and how "Yahshua" is a mistransliteration by Sacred Name advocates to fit an erroneous interpretation of John 5:43 and how "Yeshua" is far more accurate. He also clearly establishes the fact that the English name "Jesus" has absolutely no pagan connection and is simply a derivation of "Yesous," the Greek transliteration of "Yeshua." Most important, Dr. Botkin addresses that slander and criticism surrounding the name controversy in entirely non-Scriptural and not glorifying to the Holy One of Israel.

The Messiah’s Hebrew name is usually transliterated as either Yeshua or Yahshua. Under normal circumstances I would not bother to write an article about something as trivial as the difference between the vowel sounds "e" and "ah." There is a need to address the subject, though, because some people who use the Yahshua form say untrue things about those who use the Yeshua form. The opponents of the Yeshua form claim that this pronunciation is the result of a Jewish conspiracy to hide the Savior’s true name. Those who call the Messiah Yeshua are accused of perpetuating a Jewish conspiracy and "denying His name" or "degrading Him" by their use of the Yeshua form. If you have never read or heard these outlandish accusations, you probably will eventually. From time to time I receive personal letters to this effect.

The proponents of the Yahshua form claim that the Messiah’s name was the same as Joshua’s, written [vwhy or [wvwhy (Strong’s #3091). The only problem is that neither of these Hebrew spellings of Joshua’s name can possibly be pronounced "Yahshua." The third letter in Joshua’s name (reading from right to left) is the letter vav (w) and a vav cannot be silent. The letter vav must be pronounced as either a "v" or an "o" or an "u." (In the case of Joshua, it takes an "o" sound, giving us "Ye-ho-SHU-a." Strong’s confirms this pronunciation.) For a name to be pronounced "Yahshua," it would have to be spelled [wv--hy, and no such name exists anywhere in the Hebrew Bible. You don’t have to just take my word for it, though. Dr. Danny Ben-Gigi says of the Yahshua form that "there is no such name in Hebrew" and that "people invented it to fit their theology."[1] Dr. Ben-Gigi is an Israeli and the former head of Hebrew programs at Arizona State University. He is the author of the book First Steps in Hebrew Prayers, and he designed and produced the "Living Israeli Hebrew" language-learning course. Dr. David Bivin, a Christian, says that the Yahshua form "is rooted in a misunderstanding."[2] Dr. Bivin is a renowned Hebrew scholar and teacher and author of Fluent Biblical Hebrew.

I do not know of a single individual that knows Hebrew well enough to actually read it and understand it and converse in it who uses the Yahshua form.

Please do not misunderstand. A person does not need to know Hebrew and Greek linguistics in order to be spiritual. However, if a person is going to take it upon himself to instruct others about subjects of a linguistic and Hebraic nature, he should know the Hebrew language and he should know some basics about linguistics. This is especially true if he is going to use his Hebrew-based linguistic teachings to accuse his brethren of being part of a "Jewish conspiracy" to "deny the true name of the Messiah."

To people who actually know Hebrew – people like Dr. Ben-Gigi, Dr. Bivin, and others – it is very obvious that those who insist on the Yahshua form know very little about the Hebrew language. The only Hebrew that most of these self-appointed scholars know is what they can learn from a Strong’s Concordance.[3] Strong’s is a great study tool and a fine place to start, but it is not a means by which a person can learn the Hebrew language.

The English form Jesus is derived from the New Testament Greek name Ihsouß, pronounced "Yesous." According to Strong’s, Yesous (Strong’s #2424) is "of Hebrew origin" and can be traced back to Joshua’s Hebrew name, Yehoshua (#3091, [wvwhy). But how do we get the Greek Yesous from the Hebrew Yehoshua? Someone armed with nothing more than a Strong’s Concordance may have difficulty answering that question. Someone who reads the Bible in Hebrew, though, knows that the name Joshua sometimes appears in its shortened form, Yeshua ([wvy) in Neh. 8:17 it is apparent even in English: "Jeshua the son of Nun." (The letter J was pronounced like a Y in Old English.) Strong does not tell the reader that the Greek Yesous is actually transliterated from this shortened Hebrew form, Yeshua, and not directly from the longer form Yehoshua. The process from "Yehoshua" to "Jesus" looks like this:

Hebrew Yehoshua à Hebrew Yeshua

Hebrew Yeshua à Greek Yesous

Greek Yesous à English Jesus

There is no "sh" sound in Greek, which accounts for the middle "s" sound in Yesous. The "s" at the end of the Greek name is a grammatical necessity, to make the word declinable.

In Neh. 8:17, Joshua’s name is 100% identical to the name which today’s Messianic jewish people use for the Messiah, Yeshua ([wvy). Strong’s confirms this pronunciation, and tells us that there were ten Israelites in the Bible who bore this name (#3442). Therefore the shortening of Yehoshua to Yeshua predates the Christian era by at least 500 years, and cannot be the result of a Jewish conspiracy to hide the Savior’s true name.[4] To claim that the shortened form Yeshua is the result of a Jewish conspiracy is to ignore the facts of history and the facts of the Hebrew Scriptures. The form Yeshua existed for several hundred years before the Messiah was even born. Even in the pre-Christian Septuagint, we see the Greek form IHSOUS (Yesous) in the title of the Book of Joshua. (This is also proof that Yesous has no connection to the pagan god Zeus.)

So where did the transliteration Yahshua come from? This form of the name can be traced back to the beginnings of the Sacred Name movement, a movement that grew out of the Church of God, 7th Day, in the late 1930s. I have in my files an article entitled, "A Brief History of the Name Movement in America" by L.D. Snow, a Sacred Name believer.[5] According to this article, "John Briggs and Paul Penn were the FIRST to pronounce and use the name Yahshua" (emphasis Snow’s). This was in 1936 and in 1937, the article states. No information is given about how Briggs and Penn came up with this (mis)translation.

Later Sacred Name literature appeals to the Messiah’s statement in John 5:43 as "proof" of the Yahshua form: "I am come in My Father’s name," He said. In the minds of Sacred Name believers, this means that "Yah," a shortened form of Yahweh, must appear in the name of the Son. However, the Messiah did not say "My name contains My Father’s name" or "My Father’s name must appear inside My name" or any such statement. He said absolutely nothing here about His own name. The only "name" mentioned here was the Father’s name. He said, "I am come in My Father’s name," which simply means that He was coming by His Father’s authority, on His Father’s behalf. If we take Yeshua’s statement "I am come in My Father’s name" to mean that His own name must contain the Father’s name, then we ourselves cannot do anything "in the Father’s name" unless our own personal name happens to contain the syllable "Yah." The folly of this interpretation is also evident if the same line of reasoning is applied to the rest of Yeshua’s statement: "…if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive." If the logic of Sacred Name believers is applied to this half of the verse, it would be saying "a person’s name must contain his own name," which is meaningless. If, on the other hand, "in his own name" means "by his own authority," then the statement makes sense.

Why is the Yahshua form used by no one but Sacred Name believers and people who have been influenced by Sacred Name believers? Probably because no such name exists in the Hebrew Bible and, to my knowledge, no such name exists in any extra-Biblical Hebrew literature. It appears that Dr. Ben-Gigi is correct when he says that people invented the name Yahshua to fit their theology.

I have read a lot of literature from writers who seek to expose the "errors" of those who refer to the Messiah as Yeshua. The only thing these writers actually expose is their lack of knowledge. I could give several examples of statements which are absolutely ridiculous. I do not have the space in this publication to give all the examples I have in my files, and I do not wish to embarrass sincere people for their honest but misguided efforts. There are some examples, though, that grossly misrepresent the facts, and some of these examples need to be exposed.

In one popular booklet published by a well-known Sacred Name organization, the anonymous author makes this statement: "Most reference works agree with Kittel’s Theological Dictionary of the NT statement on page 284, which states that the name Yahoshua was shortened after the exile to the short form Yahshua." This statement makes it sound like Kittel uses the forms Yahoshua and Yahshua. I went to the library and looked at this page in Kittel’s. The words Yahoshua and Yahshua do not appear even one time on this page. This can be verified by going to a library and looking up this page. (It’s in Volume III.) If your library does not have Kittel’s, I can send a photocopy of this page to any skeptics.

This same Sacred Name organization which misrepresents Kittel’s also misrepresented a Jewish author. In a magazine article written by this organization’s main leader, a lengthy segment is quoted from a book published by KTAV, a Jewish publishing house. When copying this quotation for his magazine article, this Sacred Name author freely used Yahshua, making it appear tat the Jewish author used that transliteration in his book. I got the book from the library, though, and discovered that "Yahshua" did not appear in the book. I wrote to this Sacred Name leader asking for an explanation. I told him that unless he had some other explanation, I could conclude one of three things: either he deliberately misrepresented the facts, or he did it accidentally, or the book I got from the library was a different version from his, in which case I would owe him an apology. My letter was sent September 1, 1997, and I am still waiting for a reply. I will not embarrass this man by mentioning his name or the name of his ministry. It is not my intention to embarrass anyone.

I am not writing this article to persuade people to quit saying "Yahshua." If people want to continue using a mistransliteration that was erroneously contrived by early Sacred Name pioneers who didn’t know Hebrew, it really doesn’t matter to me. I don’t that the substitution of an "ah" sound for an "e" sound matters much to the Lord, either. What does matter, though, is the spreading of false accusations against Messianic jewish people and others who called the Messiah "Yeshua."

Paul warned Timothy about "doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmising [suspicions]" (1 Tim. 6:4). Unfortunately, this is an accurate description of what goes on among many people in the Sacred Name movement. Personally, I would rather fellowship with non-contentious people who call the Messiah "Jesus" than with contentious people who insist that everyone call Him "Yahshua."

NOTES

[1] Love Song to the Messiah newsletter, March 1999, p. 1.

[2] "The Fallacy of Sacred Name Bibles," Jerusalem Perspective Nov.-Dec. 1991, p. 12.

[3] These teachers very heavily rely on Strong’s Concordance, yet when Strong proves them wrong, as he does with the pronunciation of Yehoshua, they insist that Strong’s rendering is erroneous! I have a Sacred Name publication which actually claims that Strong wrote down incorrect pronunciations because "his understanding of the Name was lacking." Anyone who wants to disprove this ludicrous assertion can simply look at Joshua’s name in a Hebrew Bible and see that Strong used the very same vowel marks that are used in the Bible.

[4] There is some debate over whether or not the jewish people’ final shortening of Jesus’ name to Yeshu (wvy) was a deliberate attempt to avoid acknowledging Yeshua of Nazareth as Savior.

[5] This article first appeared in a publication called The Eliyah Messenger in May-June 1966, and was reprinted in 1975 in World Today Analyzed, a publication of the Assembly of Yahvah in Tahlequah, OK.

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ESUS HAS NOHING TO DO WITH JESUS


ESUS
Esus or Hesus was a Gaulish god known from two monumental statues and a line in Lucan's Bellum civile.

A well-known section in Lucan's Bellum civile talks about the gory sacrificial offerings proffered to a triad of Celtic deities: Teutates, Hesus (an aspirated form of Esus), and Taranis.[1] Among a pair of later commentators on Lucan's work, one identifies Teutates with Mercury and Esus with Mars. According to the Berne Commentary on Lucan, human victims were sacrificed to Esus by being tied to a tree and flailed.[2]

YOU FOOLS!!!


THIS IS HOW WE GET THE ENGLISH FORM OF THE GREEK JOSHUA AS JESUS,

WE HAVE JOSHUA IN ENGLISH A DIRECT TRANSLITERATION OF THE HEBREW Yehoshua

AND SEPERATELY WE HAVE THE GREEK FORM OF THE HEBREW
Yesous

TO SET THE NAME JESUS APART FROM THE ENLGISH TRANLITERATION OF THE HEBREW JOSHUA

SO INSTEAD IN ENGLISH WE USE THE GREEK FORM OF THE HEBREW

SO AS TO DISTINGUISH WHO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT!
THE SON OF GOD Yehoshua

Hebrew Yehoshua à Hebrew Yeshua

Hebrew Yeshua à Greek Yesous

Greek Yesous à English Jesus

SO THIS HAS NO REFERENCE AT ALL TO PAGAN MYTHS SUCH AS Esus or Hesus
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What was Lucifer's great desire according to christian stories?

To be worshiped AS GOD.

Lucifer was the "bright morning star".

Jesus is now worshiped the world over AS GOD.

Jesus refers to himself in the revelation as the bright and morning star.

The old testament says that god cannot be tempted.

Satan tempted jesus.

The bible says god is not the author of confusion. Yet the bible then says that god sends delusion and confusion upon mankind to prevent them from KNOWLEDGE OF GOD.

Jesus says that anyone who teaches others not to obey the torah laws will be least in the kingdom, and that he did not come to abolish the laws. Then he goes on to say that your righteousness (obedience to the laws) must exceed that of the pharisees or you won't go to heaven at all.

Paul comes along and says, 'fuck the law, we're christians, the law isn't for us'.

Jesus says he's the only way to god, but the old testament says god is always with us.



Here's something even more interesting, though!!

The letter 9th letter (t) is 'tet' in Hebrew. Tet is... wait for it... a cross.

If you take the english language and take each letter and assign it a number, like this:

A=1
B=2
C=3

and so on... and you multiply them by 9 (the numerological number for ETERNAL TRUTH)...

You get this

L = 108
U = 189
C = 27
I = 81
F = 54
E = 45
R = 162

Added together: 666

J = 90
E = 45
S = 171
U = 189
S = 171

Added together: 666

C = 27
R = 162
O = 135
S = 171
S = 171

Added together: 666

Also works for Messiah and Gospel.

Christianity IS the mark of the beast... the very elect shall be deceived...

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Call him what you want then. I'll stick to the ORIGINAL way.
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OMG, Jesus is not Satan, also, learn how to English.


Santa claws is Satan, same letters even.
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THE REASONING AND PURPSE OF THIS CHOOSING OF THE GREEK TRANSLITERATION AS OPPOSED TO THE DIRECT HEBREW TRANSLITERATION IS PLAIN


FOR A START THE NEW TESTAMENT WAS WRITTEN IN GREEK NOT HEBREW


AND ANOTHER MAJOR REASON IS THIS


EVEN TODAY MANY BOYS ARE NAMED JOSHUA

BUT VIRTUALLY NO ONE IS NAMED JESUS

FOR IT IS THE TRANSLITERATION OF THE GREEK NAME FOR THE SON OF GOD
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NOW IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A POINT

YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

THEIR FORMS AND USES ARE INCOORECT AND THEY DO ACTUALLY USE THE GREEK PAGAN ESUS IN THEIR TRANSLITERATIONS
WHY IS THIS?

BECAUSE THEY ARE ANTICHRIST
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YOU REASONING DEFEATS ITSELF IDOT!!!!

The bible says god is not the author of confusion.

THAT WAS THE NEW TESTMANET!!!

THE VERY BOOK YOU ARE CLAIMING IS SATANICLY INSPIRED

YOU HAVE BLASPHEMED THE HOLY SPIRIT ALSO
AND MADE YOURSELF LOOK LIKE A FOOL!!
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put your thought process to a better source, kgo, wasting your time on what could be or could not be is a waste of time in my opinion ;)
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AND AGAIN YOUR LOGIC DEFEATS YOU FOR YOU CLAIM THE OCCULT AS THE TRUTH

THE OCCULT IS HIDDEN

SO HOW CAN IT BE TRUTH?

FOR WHAT IS HIDDEN IS HIDDEN FOR DECIT!!!!


and so on... and you multiply them by 9 (the numerological number for ETERNAL TRUTH)...

JESUS IS THE TRUTH!
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You where all told FLAT OUT that GOD is both...Yet most of you refuse to see...

Isaiah 45:7
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."

It can't be said any simpler...
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JESUS IS THE GREEK WAY OF SAYING JOSHUA

JOSHUA IS THE NAME IN THE BIBLE

HERE IS PROOF

IN HEBREWS

TALKING ABOUT THE OLD TESTEMENT JOSHUA AND TALKING ABOUT THE NEW TESTAMENT JOSHUA OR IN THE ENGLISH TRANSLITERATION OF THE GREEK FOR JOSHUA - I.E JESUS

THEY HAVE TWO JESUS'S IN THE SAME PARAGRAPH
BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH OF THE SAME MEANING

BOTH MEAN THE LORD SAVES BUT ONE WAS THE JOSHUA ( IN GREEK JESUS) OF THE OLD TESTAMENT WHO WAS NOT THE MESSIAH JOSHUA(IN GREEK JESUS)


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I believe that the creator/ god created everything black and white good and bad.
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