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HOW MANY OF YOU CHRISTIANS EAT PORK .. READ THIS NOW

 
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1Tim.4:1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 2 through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, 3 who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5 for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer.
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Read that verse correctly!! It says abstinence from FOODS THAT GOD CREATED TO BE RECEIVED WITH THANKSGIVING!! The foods He actually created in the beginning for our body didn't include any animal food at all! Then when all the vegetation was destroyed during the flood He specifically told Noah to take the clean animals by 7's into the ark and unclean by 2's because obviously until they could replant vegetation, harvest, etc. they were going to need that to survive. Then when the children of Israel were lead out of Egypt in the Exodus, God took them back to a natural diet, and actually fed them Himself with manna from heaven for 40 years! Then they started grumbling and complaining, so again God allowed CLEAN mean in their diets.... and amazingly they all started killing over dead from disease and man has been killing over dead from disease from eating meat ever since!

Face the facts. We are NOT going to be killing and eating animals in heaven or in the earth made new, now are we? No, there will be NO MORE DEATH, not even of animals. Doesn't it kinda make perfect sense to prepare ourselves for heaven now? That's what I'm praying for and working toward and as honest Christians that's what we all should be doing. God classifies pork eating in the same category as mouse eating in the Bible! We are NOT supposed to eat it. Period.
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For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving
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[17] They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

I'm SAFE! I never eat my pork behind a tree.

whatever
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1Tim.4:1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 2 through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, 3 who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5 for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer.
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everythings is good for its purpose..THE PIG IS GOOD but for its purpose. The shrimp is good but for its purpose to be scavengers.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Col.2:13 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, 14 by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross. 15 He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him. 16 Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath
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Believers fighting with believes. Man, this is great!

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Col.2:13 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, 14 by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross. 15 He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him. 16 Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath
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Look my dear Christian brothers and sisters. Who wrote the book of the Law? Moses did. Who wrote the 10 commandment law? God didn't entrust Moses to write the 10 commandments ok. GOD wrote them HIMSELF in TABLES OF STONE and they are ETERNAL!! The 10 commandment law is SEPARATE from the Book of the Law. The food laws, even though they were included in the Book of the Law, were also SEPARATE from that law. I told you go read about Noah and the flood that happened LONG before Moses ever walked the earth, LONG before there were even jewish people on the earth! Noah KNEW which animals were clean and unclean, the food laws have always been around!

LOVE is the fulfillment of the law, because IF you love GOD with all your heart and soul and mind you will GLADLY keep the first 4 commandments that pertain to our relationship with God, and IF you love your fellow mankind you will GLADLY keep the last 6 that deal with our relationship to our fellow man! The Bible says ALL the law and prophets HANG on that principle because LOVE fulfills the law. If you love God you don't want to have other God's before Him, or take His name in vain, or bow to false idols and you will gladly keep HIS 7th DAY SABBATH as He asks. If you love your fellow man, you won't want to kill or steal or commit adultery against them etc.

It doesn't take rocket scientist to understand the Bible folks.
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jesus said if you love me you will keep my commandments

Jesus also said all the law of the prophets are hung on two.

So please you all with your scooby doo false teaching of messiah you lie on him
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Jesus said I did not come to Condem the law but fullfill it.
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and what is the reat of the verses after says?

one jot or one tittle shall in no wise be removed from it until the earth or sky be removed!

where are you under an umbrella?
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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1Co.10:25 Eat whatever is sold in the meat market without raising any question on the ground of conscience. 26 For “the earth is the Lord’s, and the fullness thereof.”
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[17] They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

there you go chrisitans , your all going to be consumed by the lord fire for eating pork ... give it up NOW
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What's up with the mouse? Haven't eaten one of those in years.
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Col.2:13 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, 14 by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross. 15 He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him. 16 Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath
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He was talking to the gentile believers in colosse because they were contending against the hebrews who kept the high holy days with the drinks and meats they celebrated with ,,,,,like passover....

come again!

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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1Co.10:25 Eat whatever is sold in the meat market without raising any question on the ground of conscience. 26 For “the earth is the Lord’s, and the fullness thereof.”
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[17] They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

there you go chrisitans , your all going to be consumed by the lord fire for eating pork ... give it up NOW
 Quoting: the truth bringer



What's up with the mouse? Haven't eaten one of those in years.
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lol .... cos they are scavengers and basically eat shit ...

same with the fouls of the air , cant eat scavengers of any kind .. its to do with keeping pure
There is 18 level's of hell which one you going to ....
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1Tim.4:1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 2 through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, 3 who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5 for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer.
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Read that verse correctly!! It says abstinence from FOODS THAT GOD CREATED TO BE RECEIVED WITH THANKSGIVING!! The foods He actually created in the beginning for our body didn't include any animal food at all! Then when all the vegetation was destroyed during the flood He specifically told Noah to take the clean animals by 7's into the ark and unclean by 2's because obviously until they could replant vegetation, harvest, etc. they were going to need that to survive. Then when the children of Israel were lead out of Egypt in the Exodus, God took them back to a natural diet, and actually fed them Himself with manna from heaven for 40 years! Then they started grumbling and complaining, so again God allowed CLEAN mean in their diets.... and amazingly they all started killing over dead from disease and man has been killing over dead from disease from eating meat ever since!

Face the facts. We are NOT going to be killing and eating animals in heaven or in the earth made new, now are we? No, there will be NO MORE DEATH, not even of animals. Doesn't it kinda make perfect sense to prepare ourselves for heaven now? That's what I'm praying for and working toward and as honest Christians that's what we all should be doing. God classifies pork eating in the same category as mouse eating in the Bible! We are NOT supposed to eat it. Period.
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For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving
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Ok then I'm gonna whip up my famous rat, black snake, maggot, worm, and roach stew and you had better eat it because it's perfectly ok if you receive it with thanksgiving! Seriously stop the foolishness!
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1Tim.4:1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 2 through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, 3 who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5 for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer.
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Read that verse correctly!! It says abstinence from FOODS THAT GOD CREATED TO BE RECEIVED WITH THANKSGIVING!! The foods He actually created in the beginning for our body didn't include any animal food at all! Then when all the vegetation was destroyed during the flood He specifically told Noah to take the clean animals by 7's into the ark and unclean by 2's because obviously until they could replant vegetation, harvest, etc. they were going to need that to survive. Then when the children of Israel were lead out of Egypt in the Exodus, God took them back to a natural diet, and actually fed them Himself with manna from heaven for 40 years! Then they started grumbling and complaining, so again God allowed CLEAN mean in their diets.... and amazingly they all started killing over dead from disease and man has been killing over dead from disease from eating meat ever since!

Face the facts. We are NOT going to be killing and eating animals in heaven or in the earth made new, now are we? No, there will be NO MORE DEATH, not even of animals. Doesn't it kinda make perfect sense to prepare ourselves for heaven now? That's what I'm praying for and working toward and as honest Christians that's what we all should be doing. God classifies pork eating in the same category as mouse eating in the Bible! We are NOT supposed to eat it. Period.
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For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving
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Ok then I'm gonna whip up my famous rat, black snake, maggot, worm, and roach stew and you had better eat it because it's perfectly ok if you receive it with thanksgiving! Seriously stop the foolishness!
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Lol I never said Eat any of that. But hey to each his own.
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1Co.10:25 Eat whatever is sold in the meat market without raising any question on the ground of conscience. 26 For “the earth is the Lord’s, and the fullness thereof.”
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OUT of context again there were men in the shambles selling meat that was offeed to idols

He tells them that what was sold in the shambles they might eat without asking questions. The priest's share of heathen sacrifices was thus frequently offered for sale, after it had been offered in the temple. Now the apostle tells them they need not be so scrupulous as to ask the butcher in the market whether the meat he sold had been offered to an idol?

It was there sold as common food, and as such might be bought and used; for the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof , and the fruit and products of the earth were designed by him, the great proprietor, for the use and subsistence of mankind, and more especially of his own children and servants. Every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving; for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer,


Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 03/12/2012 08:53 PM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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1Co.10:25 Eat whatever is sold in the meat market without raising any question on the ground of conscience. 26 For “the earth is the Lord’s, and the fullness thereof.”
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Again read that whole chapter... that was a discussion about food being sacrificed to idols.
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1Co.10:25 Eat whatever is sold in the meat market without raising any question on the ground of conscience. 26 For “the earth is the Lord’s, and the fullness thereof.”
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Out of context again! there were men in the shambles selling meat that was offered to idols

He tells them that what was sold in the shambles they might eat without asking questions. The priest's share of heathen sacrifices was thus frequently offered for sale, after it had been offered in the temple. Now the apostle tells them they need not be so scrupulous as to ask the butcher in the market whether the meat he sold had been offered to an idol?

It was there sold as common food, and as such might be bought and used; for the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof , and the fruit and products of the earth were designed by him, the great proprietor, for the use and subsistence of mankind, and more especially of his own children and servants. Every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving; for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer,


Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 03/12/2012 08:55 PM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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1Co.10:25 Eat whatever is sold in the meat market without raising any question on the ground of conscience. 26 For “the earth is the Lord’s, and the fullness thereof.”
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OUT of context again there were men in the shambles selling meat that was offeed to idols

He tells them that what was sold in the shambles they might eat without asking questions. The priest's share of heathen sacrifices was thus frequently offered for sale, after it had been offered in the temple. Now the apostle tells them they need not be so scrupulous as to ask the butcher in the market whether the meat he sold had been offered to an idol?

It was there sold as common food, and as such might be bought and used; for the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof , and the fruit and products of the earth were designed by him, the great proprietor, for the use and subsistence of mankind, and more especially of his own children and servants. Every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving; for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer,

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Genesis 9:1 And God blessed Noah and his sons and said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth. 2 The fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth and upon every bird of the heavens, upon everything that creeps on the ground and all the fish of the sea. Into your hand they are delivered. 3 Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything. 4 But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood. 5 And for your lifeblood I will require a reckoning: from every beast I will require it and from man. From his fellow man I will require a reckoning for the life of man.

I quess God Lied about that right?
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Not eating pork was symbolic and physically useful seeing that pigs are natures vacuum along with all unclean animals listed in bible.


Matthew 15
“Are you still so dull?” Jesus asked them. 17 “Don’t you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? 18 But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them. 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.
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How about putting up all the chapter instead of a few verses taken out of context ???

Matthew 15
That Which Defiles
1 Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, 2 “Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don’t wash their hands before they eat!”

3 Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4 For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’[a] and ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’ 5 But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is ‘devoted to God,’ 6 they are not to ‘honor their father or mother’ with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7 You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:

8 “‘These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
9 They worship me in vain;
their teachings are merely human rules.’[c]”

10 Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen and understand. 11 What goes into someone’s mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them.”

12 Then the disciples came to him and asked, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this?”

13 He replied, “Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots. 14 Leave them; they are blind guides.[d] If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.”

15 Peter said, “Explain the parable to us.”

16 “Are you still so dull?” Jesus asked them. 17 “Don’t you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? 18 But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them. 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20 These are what defile a person; but eating with unwashed hands does not defile them.”


Yeshua was talking about eating food without washing your hands , one of the many added traditions of men . The last line that I have bolded is the most important here .
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So people are saved by what they eat now? That is not the gospel, that is what the Jesus preached against.

ROMANS 14
Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister. 14 I am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean. 15 If your brother or sister is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy someone for whom Christ died. 16 Therefore do not let what you know is good be spoken of as evil. 17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18 because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and receives human approval.
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1Co.10:25 Eat whatever is sold in the meat market without raising any question on the ground of conscience. 26 For “the earth is the Lord’s, and the fullness thereof.”
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OUT of context again there were men in the shambles selling meat that was offeed to idols

He tells them that what was sold in the shambles they might eat without asking questions. The priest's share of heathen sacrifices was thus frequently offered for sale, after it had been offered in the temple. Now the apostle tells them they need not be so scrupulous as to ask the butcher in the market whether the meat he sold had been offered to an idol?

It was there sold as common food, and as such might be bought and used; for the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof , and the fruit and products of the earth were designed by him, the great proprietor, for the use and subsistence of mankind, and more especially of his own children and servants. Every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving; for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer,

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Genesis 9:1 And God blessed Noah and his sons and said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth. 2 The fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth and upon every bird of the heavens, upon everything that creeps on the ground and all the fish of the sea. Into your hand they are delivered. 3 Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything. 4 But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood. 5 And for your lifeblood I will require a reckoning: from every beast I will require it and from man. From his fellow man I will require a reckoning for the life of man.

I quess God Lied about that right?
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Did noah eat his wife or his sons? I wonder if he said to his wife "tomorrow we put shem on the grill"

Common sense Noah knew the laws of his father jared and enoch
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Not eating pork was symbolic and physically useful seeing that pigs are natures vacuum along with all unclean animals listed in bible.


Matthew 15
“Are you still so dull?” Jesus asked them. 17 “Don’t you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? 18 But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them. 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.
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How about putting up all the chapter instead of a few verses taken out of context ???

Matthew 15
That Which Defiles
1 Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, 2 “Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don’t wash their hands before they eat!”

3 Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4 For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’[a] and ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’ 5 But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is ‘devoted to God,’ 6 they are not to ‘honor their father or mother’ with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7 You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:

8 “‘These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
9 They worship me in vain;
their teachings are merely human rules.’[c]”

10 Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen and understand. 11 What goes into someone’s mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them.”

12 Then the disciples came to him and asked, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this?”

13 He replied, “Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots. 14 Leave them; they are blind guides.[d] If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.”

15 Peter said, “Explain the parable to us.”

16 “Are you still so dull?” Jesus asked them. 17 “Don’t you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? 18 But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them. 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20 These are what defile a person; but eating with unwashed hands does not defile them.”


Yeshua was talking about eating food without washing your hands , one of the many added traditions of men . The last line that I have bolded is the most important here .
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So people are saved by what they eat now? That is not the gospel, that is what the Jesus preached against.

ROMANS 14
Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister. 14 I am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean. 15 If your brother or sister is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy someone for whom Christ died. 16 Therefore do not let what you know is good be spoken of as evil. 17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18 because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and receives human approval.
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BRAVO!!!
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1 Timothy 4

1 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. 3 They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. 4 For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5 because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.
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Not eating pork was symbolic and physically useful seeing that pigs are natures vacuum along with all unclean animals listed in bible.


Matthew 15
“Are you still so dull?” Jesus asked them. 17 “Don’t you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? 18 But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them. 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.
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How about putting up all the chapter instead of a few verses taken out of context ???

Matthew 15
That Which Defiles
1 Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, 2 “Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don’t wash their hands before they eat!”

3 Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4 For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’[a] and ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’ 5 But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is ‘devoted to God,’ 6 they are not to ‘honor their father or mother’ with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7 You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:

8 “‘These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
9 They worship me in vain;
their teachings are merely human rules.’[c]”

10 Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen and understand. 11 What goes into someone’s mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them.”

12 Then the disciples came to him and asked, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this?”

13 He replied, “Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots. 14 Leave them; they are blind guides.[d] If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.”

15 Peter said, “Explain the parable to us.”

16 “Are you still so dull?” Jesus asked them. 17 “Don’t you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? 18 But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them. 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20 These are what defile a person; but eating with unwashed hands does not defile them.”


Yeshua was talking about eating food without washing your hands , one of the many added traditions of men . The last line that I have bolded is the most important here .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12359885


So people are saved by what they eat now? That is not the gospel, that is what the Jesus preached against.

ROMANS 14
Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister. 14 I am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean. 15 If your brother or sister is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy someone for whom Christ died. 16 Therefore do not let what you know is good be spoken of as evil. 17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18 because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and receives human approval.
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No this is part of the code of conduct..if you love the father you will obey..THE DAY WILL COME WHEN ALL WILL BE ASSESSED ON THE TRUTH THEY HEARD!

Christ said to his followers "follow me" You all run for paul for cover writings you don/t even understand!

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Not eating pork sounds like works to me, and not faith. You won't get to heaven by obeying this law. It is your heart and faith and Christ. That is the only way. I am a christian descended from King David. I eat pork. God is good with that!
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Not eating pork sounds like works to me, and not faith. You won't get to heaven by obeying this law. It is your heart and faith and Christ. That is the only way. I am a christian descended from King David. I eat pork. God is good with that!
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faith only justifies you to the father it does not save.

The two have to be expressed through sanctification which is love for the father.He SAID IF YOU LOVE ME OBEY MY COMMANDMENTS

sin is the transgression of the law
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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5* stars OP , its a breath of fresh air to see people teaching the truth here .
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OP....the salvation and grace comes from eating right meat and correct pronunciation of His name....I got it....do I have to use right size rocks to kill the evil people?
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a lotta Christians get tattooed too!
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YEAH AND THEY SIT IN THE FRONT SEAT SHOWING IT OFF

Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.
Leviticus 19:28


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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Christmas and Easter are abominations to the Most High Elohiym



You can not mix the Holy with the Profane and expect YHWH to look the other way.... see things as HE does, take the time to watch this video
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Not eating pork sounds like works to me, and not faith. You won't get to heaven by obeying this law. It is your heart and faith and Christ. That is the only way. I am a christian descended from King David. I eat pork. God is good with that!
 Quoting: bigD111


faith only justifies you to the father it does not save.

The two have to be expressed through sanctification which is love for the father.He SAID IF YOU LOVE ME OBEY MY COMMANDMENTS

sin is the transgression of the law
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Everyone sins, we have all broke the OT law, and we will break the OT law. We can not fulfill the OT law , this is the trap the pharisees feel into.