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HOW MANY OF YOU CHRISTIANS EAT PORK .. READ THIS NOW

 
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The 'law' about not eating pork is one of the clearest signs that these religions are a fraud.

When you look at a people, and their religion, a question can be asked; was the religion created out of the culture or was the culture created from the religion?

And in those early days, in the middle eastern culture, pork was avoided, because people got sick from eating it. Being millenia away from actually understanding *why* they got sick from it, they decided it was because it was spiritually unclean, or 'impure'.

And then 'God' comes along and lays down his laws, and lo and behold, he just happens to agree with the common man, that pork is 'unclean' and 'impure' (because it has a split hoof but doesn't have a cud, of all reasons).

This is tantamount to proof that the 'God' who laid down these laws, was actually man. Simple, stupid, superstitious, men of the times, with no understanding of the world around them.

Don't you think God Almighty would know more about this than the men of the era? Don't you think God would know all they have to do to keep from getting sick from pork, is simply to cook it properly? Wouldn't he have simply said 'Thou shalt not undercook pork, or any meat, because it contains tiny parasitic lifeforms, which must be properly purged from the meat before consumption'.

Wouldn't THAT have made more sense?
Furthermore, being the God that created all these animals, don't you think he'd know enough about the biology of his own creations to know that the shape of an animals foot, or it's method of digestion bears NO impact on it's 'purity', or whether it's meat is safe to eat?


Your bibles were written by charlatans. Your religion is a fraud, and you've devoted your entire life to the word of liars.
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I believe that since God made these bodies He knows what will keep them alive the longest. I don't believe that death would come suddenly but over time, your body would degrade faster than it would by eating it.
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I don't eat pork, but I don't force others to not eat pork. It's my personal choice to honor God.

The crazy thing is that a family member just came home with two wiener pigs hat were picked up at an auction. So I don't eat pork, but I now have to feed two pigs. Anyone want to buy a wiener pig?
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IF YOU WANT TO BE JUDGED BY COMANDMENDS GO AHEAD.
IF YOU WANT TO BE JUDGED BY PERFECT LAMB IT IS AGAIN YOUR CHOICE.
I don't like pork meat but can pork meat affect your place in eternity?
He called them painted coffins for a good reason.....human ego trying to gain points to gain grace by doing perfectly earhly things...while tottaly forgetting the main point of HIS LOVE.
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So by your statement "judged by commandments" Under the "New Covenant, I can now murder, steal and covet?

God's Laws of Torah ARE love.

He forbade those things as food because they are not good for you. They are the cockroaches of the ecosystem.

Through his Law, he teaches us to love Him, ourselves and each other.

I obey the Law through the Spirit because of my love for him and His love for me. Much as my children adhere (or try to) to my rules for them because they know I implement them for their benefit.

I am not perfect and He shows me new ways to adhere to Torah that I did not know before, Does he punish me for not knowing? No, He is ok with that as long as I recognize what it was that I was doing wrong , ask for His forgiveness and mercy and then rectify my behavior accordingly. Baby steps. He does not expect me to learn it all in an hour and knows that it is a learning process and part of building a personal relationship with Him.
It is far from being about ego and is in fact the contrary. it is me humbling myself to Him and his will.
I have not put anyone else down, I stated how I understood The Law, and His Word. I do not condemn anyone. If my family were starving and the only animal to come near us in days was a boar, do I think that God would punish me eternally if I fed it to them so they would survive? No! Messiah teaches us to use common sense.

It is now and has always been about His Love for us. This is how I show Him my love in return.
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Thank you, OP.

Pork, shellfish carrion birds, most insects etc are not now nor ever were food.
There were clean and unclean animals for sacrificial reasons, but there are no "unclean foods" because the unclean animals were never food for us How can something that was never food be deemed an unclean food and then later cleaned?

Messiah now holds the banner and not Moses.
That Torah is administered under Him through the Spirit who writes The Law on our hearts.
Messiah is now the high priest
His crucifixion and resurrection fulfilled the sacrificial atonement under the ordinances of sin and death.


clappa


The Torah still applies as it applies to you. If you are not a priest, that part does not apply to YOU. If you do not live in the physical Kingdom of Israel, the civil code does not apply to YOU. There is no Temple, so all temple rituals no longer apply to YOU.
clappa


Messiah now fulfills the role of the sacrifice of atonement, the high priest mediating on our behalf, the alter, and the sanctuary. Gentiles can now accept His Grace and are grafted into the hebrew line of judaism through the jewish people. (The house of Judah). They become J.ewish Netzarim as the Apostles were.

clappa




This is the Good News and the Grace he bestowed on us. It is not a NEW covenant. We are still under the Mosaic covenant. We will return to the covenant of Adam and Eve in the New Jerusalem. Until then, we have Torah.

Messiah became the sacrifice of atonement fulfilling the law of sin and death. The blood sacrifice of animals on the alter of the Temple in atonement for sin is what was fulfilled by Messiah.
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clappa:jkjkjj:
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Ty Neim777. I was unsure if I had expressed it well.
I was removed from the teachings for nearly 30 years and have only returned to it a few months ago after a long, dissatisfied walk in the 1st day churches.

Now if only I could find a like minded church here I would, be thrilled to be able to better continue my studies.
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OP probably makes his wife sit apart for seven days during menstruation too. So sad. In such bondage. Remember, if he touches her, he is unclean! The letter of the law kills, but the spirit gives life, and whosoever the Son sets free is free indeed. Hallelujah!

"And if a woman have an issue, and her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even. And every thing that she lieth upon in her separation shall be unclean: every thing also that she sitteth upon shall be unclean. And whosoever toucheth her bed shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even. And whosoever toucheth any thing that she sat upon shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even. And if it be on her bed, or on any thing whereon she sitteth, when he toucheth it, he shall be unclean until the even. And if any man lie with her at all, and her flowers be upon him, he shall be unclean seven days; and all the bed whereon he lieth shall be unclean. And if a woman have an issue of her blood many days out of the time of her separation, or if it run beyond the time of her separation; all the days of the issue of her uncleanness shall be as the days of her separation: she shall be unclean. Every bed whereon she lieth all the days of her issue shall be unto her as the bed of her separation: and whatsoever she sitteth upon shall be unclean, as the uncleanness of her separation. And whosoever toucheth those things shall be unclean, and shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even. But if she be cleansed of her issue, then she shall number to herself seven days, and after that she shall be clean. And on the eighth day she shall take unto her two turtles, or two young pigeons, and bring them unto the priest, to the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. And the priest shall offer the one for a sin offering, and the other for a burnt offering; and the priest shall make an atonement for her before the LORD for the issue of her uncleanness."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1509082


UM, I am a woman and I have my own bedroom!! I prefer it this way. Mostly because he snores like a pride of lions and steals the covers.

My menses do not contaminate the home because I have handy dandy sanitary items available to me that they did not have then. I do put down furniture covers during that time however in the appropriate time of my cycle in case of an accident.

As for him being unclean for touching me during that time? Um, the LAST thing I want when I am bloated and crampy is to deal with him, let alone be touched by him!!! It is in his best interest to stay away! LOL!

The sin and burnt offerings no longer apply as Messiah has fulfilled the blood sacrifice for me with his death and resurrection.
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As pork has been proven to be one of the cleanest meats, it just goes to show that man wrote the bible from his biased and dumb un scientific mind when he knew no better, other than observing what the pig ate.
 Quoting: F F S


Not true. Cows have multiple stomachs to properly filter the junk they eat so it does not permeate to the meat. Chickens have gizzards that do the same. Swine are like people, only one stomach. That is why I don't eat swine....or people.
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Yeah, I stay away from Solyent Green too.
Nasty stuff, that is.

In my mind though I am changing your sentence to: "That is why I don't CONSUME swine....or people."

I still have a long way to go in cleaning up my filthy mind.
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Isa.66
[15] For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
[16] For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.


Again, we know what time this is; the second coming of the Lord.


[17] They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

there you go chrisitans , your all going to be consumed by the lord fire for eating pork ... give it up NOW
 Quoting: the truth bringer


The first time i heard a sermon on this i came home and got rid of all the swine in the house.

There are plenty of other foods.

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As pork has been proven to be one of the cleanest meats, it just goes to show that man wrote the bible from his biased and dumb un scientific mind when he knew no better, other than observing what the pig ate.
 Quoting: F F S


Not true. Cows have multiple stomachs to properly filter the junk they eat so it does not permeate to the meat. Chickens have gizzards that do the same. Swine are like people, only one stomach. That is why I don't eat swine....or people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10299357


Hey there, long time listener, first time caller;
Just wondering if you realize that stomachs and gizzards do not filter out microbes and parasites, aka the 'junk' in other animals bodies that can make us sick... An animals digestive system is a fundamental part of most parasites food chains. They thrive in that environment. The goal of their life cycle is to get INTO that environment.

So, your entire basis for believing this law is pertinent, is based on a completely faulty assumption you've made.

So now that that reasoning has been destroyed by reality, please fill me in on what your new reason is for believing that God doesn't want you eating pigs.


IMO the one and only reason why pigs made people more sick than other meats, is that most other meats have very distinctive signs for when they have been cooked optimally. Red meats turn grey-brown. Poultry's juices go from yellow to clear. Pork is far more vague, there's no one precise sign you can identify to know that all the bacteria and parasites have been destroyed.

And the only reason the parasites are IN pork in the first place is improper maintenance. If you don't clean the shit out of their pens, and they get hungry, they eat the shit. So perhaps a better law would have been;

"Thou shalt clean the shit out of thy pigpens every day; and thou shalt feed the goddamned animals that thou is supposed to be taking care of"

Thus the Lord has spoken.
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clean and unclean animals, those who refuse eating pork do you also refuse all unclean animals? The animals were supposed to be a visual to represent jewish(spiritual righteous) and gentile(spiritual unrighteous).
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clean and unclean animals, those who refuse eating pork do you also refuse all unclean animals? The animals were supposed to be a visual to represent jewish(spiritual righteous) and gentile(spiritual unrighteous).
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Yes I do. Quite honestly, I have a very limited diet of animal protein of beef, chicken, turkey, lamb rarely), veal(rarely) and appropriate fish (two fins and scales).

It is difficult to find many of the other meat sources here unless you buy into an animal share, but that does not concern me as I eat to live, not live to eat.

As I dropped pork, sea bugs etc I found that I actually have less of a desire or tolerance for animal protein and consume it maybe 3 meals a week.

I lost a lot of my hair when I was pregnant and all of it when I had cancer treatment and it came back very thin.
My hair is actually rejuvenating (note: I also stopped using shampoo in deference to baking soda and an occasional rinse of AC vinegar because I had enough of getting rashes from shampoo)

My skin is much clearer, I have lost inches in my waistline that I had a very hard time losing after bearing children, my cholesterol is down, my blood pressure which was always very low is stabilizing.

I feel better and look better than I have in almost 20 years. I will be 45 next month and have no need to take meds now.

If THAT is not a blessing , I don't know what is.

Now please do not get me wrong, I also happen to think that it is rude to go to someone's house for a meal and refuse what is put before you. I will take a bite or two's worth of what is served that is not food for me in order to not insult the host.

Loving your neighbor and honoring your host is equally as important, I believe.
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Hmm... Bacon vs. Heaven....

Bacon vs. Heaven....

Yep... I'm going to hell. But I'll go with a Bacon Burger and a smile.
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Isa.66
[15] For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
[16] For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.


Again, we know what time this is; the second coming of the Lord.


[17] They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

there you go chrisitans , your all going to be consumed by the lord fire for eating pork ... give it up NOW
 Quoting: the truth bringer


How many Christians understand that Nazoraions were before the name Christian. It was called The way, there were disciples and a Nazoraion did not eat any meat.

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That is why I don't eat swine....or people.
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The two are essentially the same. It's possible pigs devolved from humans. When people who have practiced cannibalism (usually in extreme situations) are asked what human flesh tastes like, the answer always is....bacon.
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That is why I don't eat swine....or people.
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The two are essentially the same. It's possible pigs devolved from humans. When people who have practiced cannibalism (usually in extreme situations) are asked what human flesh tastes like, the answer always is....bacon.
 Quoting: Zedakah


Ewwww, they cured and smoked people before eating them?


I do eat bacon: turkey bacon from Aldi's.

Best stuff I have had in ages.

I buy it only once a month though because it is a bit addicting.
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As pork has been proven to be one of the cleanest meats, it just goes to show that man wrote the bible from his biased and dumb un scientific mind when he knew no better, other than observing what the pig ate.
 Quoting: F F S

Not true:

Trichinosis, is a parasitic disease caused by eating raw or undercooked Pork that is infected with the larvae of a species of roundworm.
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we know you will never give up the baloney pony.
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Isa.66
[15] For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
[16] For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.


Again, we know what time this is; the second coming of the Lord.


[17] They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

there you go chrisitans , your all going to be consumed by the lord fire for eating pork ... give it up NOW
 Quoting: the truth bringer


Act 3:22 Moses declared, "'THE LORD YOUR GOD WILL RAISE UP A PROPHET FOR YOU FROM AMONG YOUR BRETHREN AS HE HAS RAISED ME. IN ALL THAT HE SAYS TO YOU, YOU MUST LISTEN TO HIM.
Act 3:23 AND EVERY ONE, WITHOUT EXCEPTION, WHO REFUSES TO LISTEN TO THAT PROPHET SHALL BE UTTERLY DESTROYED FROM AMONG THE PEOPLE.'

Act 10:11 The sky had opened to his view, and what seemed to be an enormous sail was descending, being let down to the earth by ropes at the four corners.
Act 10:12 In it were all kinds of quadrupeds, reptiles and birds,
Act 10:13 and a voice came to him which said, "Rise, Peter, kill and eat."
Act 10:14 "On no account, Lord," he replied; "for I have never yet eaten anything unholy and impure."

Act 10:15 Again a second time a voice was heard which said, "What God has purified, you must not regard as unholy."
Act 10:16 This was said three times, and immediately the sail was drawn up out of sight.
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Isa.66
[15] For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
[16] For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.


Again, we know what time this is; the second coming of the Lord.


[17] They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

there you go chrisitans , your all going to be consumed by the lord fire for eating pork ... give it up NOW
 Quoting: the truth bringer


Act 3:22 Moses declared, "'THE LORD YOUR GOD WILL RAISE UP A PROPHET FOR YOU FROM AMONG YOUR BRETHREN AS HE HAS RAISED ME. IN ALL THAT HE SAYS TO YOU, YOU MUST LISTEN TO HIM.
Act 3:23 AND EVERY ONE, WITHOUT EXCEPTION, WHO REFUSES TO LISTEN TO THAT PROPHET SHALL BE UTTERLY DESTROYED FROM AMONG THE PEOPLE.'

Act 10:11 The sky had opened to his view, and what seemed to be an enormous sail was descending, being let down to the earth by ropes at the four corners.
Act 10:12 In it were all kinds of quadrupeds, reptiles and birds,
Act 10:13 and a voice came to him which said, "Rise, Peter, kill and eat."
Act 10:14 "On no account, Lord," he replied; "for I have never yet eaten anything unholy and impure."

Act 10:15 Again a second time a voice was heard which said, "What God has purified, you must not regard as unholy."
Act 10:16 This was said three times, and immediately the sail was drawn up out of sight.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5536007


Don't skip the rest of the story:



Peter did not eat, he pondered what it meant and later Peter found out what it meant:

Acts 10:(27-29) Entering Cornelius’ house, Peter explains why he came.

"And as he talked with him, he went in and found many who had come together. Then he said to them, “You know how unlawful it is for a Jewish man to keep company with or go to one of another nation. But God has shown me that I should not call any man common or unclean. Therefore I came without objection as soon as I was sent for. I ask, then, for what reason have you sent for me?”

So Peter understood that the vision was about people as jewish people thought the gentiles were unclean and they should not mingle with them. Now about food there is healthy food and unhealthy food and in the Bible we read that the people eating healthy food looked better and had more wisdom than those eating the "kings food". Any doctor would confirm the same.
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And some people say he died on the cross and those laws were forgotten ...

If THAT WAS THE CASE WHY DOES IT SAY THOSE THAT EAT SWINE WILL BE CONSUMED IN THE SECOND COMING ...

WAKE UP ...
 Quoting: the truth bringer


Isaah: Old testament, before Christ, before the new testament. Does Christ save us from our sins or not? If we beleive that eating pork is a sin then we are bound to all the other laws of Moses. Go read the some 600 laws of moses and follow them if you can, but I bet you can't.
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its out of the new testament idiot
 Quoting: the truth bringer


OP you seem very legalistic. First of all Isaiah is in the OT. the signature at the bottom of your page tells me what kind of christian you are. 18 levels of hell? you base your spirituality and ministry on fear of loss or fear of law. this is no way to come to Christ and it isnt what He would want or accept anyway. you are a pharisee buddy. man made myths and religions. please show me one instance where Christ told someone they would "burn in the Lords fire". what would make you think this is acceptable behavior? attacks like this is what cause people to run from Christ.

good luck on taking your salvation into your own hands. you obviously dont find the sacrifice of Christ to be sufficient. but maybe if your good enough you can earn your way in right?

what kind of religion are you a part of that believes paul was "mistaken" anyway?
All morons hate it when you call them a moron.

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It's funny. All you have to do is say something nobody understands and they'll do practically anything you want them to.

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Both the Bible and the Qur’an prohibit the eating of pork. Muslims are aware of this prohibition and observe it strictly.
 Quoting: the truth bringer


the reason being is that when you farm with pigs, it's hard work

have you ever seen a Muslim mow a lawn or plant a tree in his garden? ....

have you ever seen a Muslim with a spade in his hands? ....

have you ever seen a muslim operating a jackhammer or a chainsaw?

have you ever seen a Muslim picking up dogshit?

nah ... very much doubt it .... I'm nearly 60 years old and have yet to see that

and saying all that, nothing beats a BBQ of marinated pork rib with a dozen ice cold beers and a spliff (OOPS!.... forgot they dn't drink aswell!... and don't mention spliffs!)

.... and they don't know what they are missing .... I'm glad I'm white (and 'normal')
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Isa.66
[15] For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
[16] For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.


Again, we know what time this is; the second coming of the Lord.


[17] They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

there you go chrisitans , your all going to be consumed by the lord fire for eating pork ... give it up NOW
 Quoting: the truth bringer


Act 3:22 Moses declared, "'THE LORD YOUR GOD WILL RAISE UP A PROPHET FOR YOU FROM AMONG YOUR BRETHREN AS HE HAS RAISED ME. IN ALL THAT HE SAYS TO YOU, YOU MUST LISTEN TO HIM.
Act 3:23 AND EVERY ONE, WITHOUT EXCEPTION, WHO REFUSES TO LISTEN TO THAT PROPHET SHALL BE UTTERLY DESTROYED FROM AMONG THE PEOPLE.'

Act 10:11 The sky had opened to his view, and what seemed to be an enormous sail was descending, being let down to the earth by ropes at the four corners.
Act 10:12 In it were all kinds of quadrupeds, reptiles and birds,
Act 10:13 and a voice came to him which said, "Rise, Peter, kill and eat."
Act 10:14 "On no account, Lord," he replied; "for I have never yet eaten anything unholy and impure."

Act 10:15 Again a second time a voice was heard which said, "What God has purified, you must not regard as unholy."
Act 10:16 This was said three times, and immediately the sail was drawn up out of sight.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5536007


Don't skip the rest of the story:



Peter did not eat, he pondered what it meant and later Peter found out what it meant:

Acts 10:(27-29) Entering Cornelius’ house, Peter explains why he came.

"And as he talked with him, he went in and found many who had come together. Then he said to them, “You know how unlawful it is for a Jewish man to keep company with or go to one of another nation. But God has shown me that I should not call any man common or unclean. Therefore I came without objection as soon as I was sent for. I ask, then, for what reason have you sent for me?”

So Peter understood that the vision was about people as jewish people thought the gentiles were unclean and they should not mingle with them. Now about food there is healthy food and unhealthy food and in the Bible we read that the people eating healthy food looked better and had more wisdom than those eating the "kings food". Any doctor would confirm the same.
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youre right but one of the reasons the Jewish people looked at others differently was due to the foods they ate and the preperation as according to the law. so God was telling peter there was no impure food. it has been consecrated by God. this scripture has literal meaning.

of course some things are healthy while others may not be. i think you are really twisting this by applying it to mean he was refering to the time of the gentiles. besides that the "people eating healthy food and looking better"' that you are refering to comes from daniel i assume. when he refused to eat the kings food. do you honestly take that literaly and not Acts 10:15? why? keep in mind that daniel was well before the consecration of food with the perfect sacrifice of Christ. i understand what you mean about his food intake compared to whatever the kings food would have been. but there was also the Godly factor involved there too.
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Matthew 15:11
Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man


This is sufficient for me, the words of Jesus himself.
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BINGO!!!!!!!
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FALSE CALL ON THE BINGO!

THAT PARABLE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH MEAT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.IT WAS JUST A GENERAL STATEMENT ABOUT EATING AND WHERE FOOD ENDS UP!

16 And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding?

17 Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?


18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.

19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:

20 These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Matthew 15:11
Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man


This is sufficient for me, the words of Jesus himself.
 Quoting: Midnite_rider


You people need to read the bible, jesus wasnt talking about eating foods, The subject was washing of the hands.... Go back and read the whole chapter... Now just one line... and the vision peter had about the unclean 4 footed unclean animals.... god was showing him that the gentiles were now clean, that they should be accepted... Jesus paul peter etc etc Noone in the bible Ate the unclean.... I dont care if you bless it till ur blue in the face you cant bless something thats been cursed by god....
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gentiles have always been allowed to eat pork if they wanted to
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Isa.66
[15] For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
[16] For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.


Again, we know what time this is; the second coming of the Lord.


[17] They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

there you go chrisitans , your all going to be consumed by the lord fire for eating pork ... give it up NOW
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You can eat what you want it is no sin. Read about it in the new testament. The tablecloth full of food held up to paul to tell him that it was ok to eat anything with hoofs, without hoofs etc etc but to be courteous with others who do not believe they can eat whatever they want. (The jewish people). But to stay away from blood and strangled things.
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Doesn't the original bible state countless times that it must never be rewritten or added too??? So how is this justified to create a false idol , then add a story going against all In the original bible?? Or are you assuming the lord was a idiot, wrote the first stating all the future ... but then changed his mind along the way and sent men to create false idols and change his original??
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Mat 15:11
What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean.

Mark 7:15
Nothing outside a man can make him 'unclean' by going into him. Rather, it is what comes out of a man that makes him 'unclean.

Mark 7:18
"Are you so dull?" he asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'?
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Years ago I wondered about this and could not find a clear answer from the Bible that satisfied me. So I asked Him about it, whether I should eat pork or not?.

The next day on the radio was a news story about a community fighting a big pig farm. They are known for ruining the water quality, air, tons of waste. I felt bad for what messed up some peoples communities. There was my answer and reason why I don't eat pork.

Way back then when the population was just a fraction of what it is today, Jesus said to his disciples "You have not seen the things my Father has seen." I thanked him for showing me.

It also says, and I was raised this way. That if your a guest and served foods not considered clean, but of there culture that you can eat them and be grateful for the hospitality they offer.

Sorry I do not have the exact verse stuff, I do read the Bible a lot. I notice now my stomach does not tolerate pork but if it ends up in my food, beggers cant be choosey.

Life is to short to argue over what one eats. Not eating pork is my way of being kind to people I do not know, cause I love them.
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Romans 7:14

For we know that the Law is spiritual

1 Corinthians 15:46

However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural; then the spiritual.

The law was put there to be fulfilled naturally. But it's also spiritual, it goes to a higher dimension. Kind of like the sacrificing of the lamb went to a higher dimension when Christ was the sacrificed lamb.

When the demonic went into the 2000 swine it was saying that Satan had 2000 more years to rule and Christ had "come before the time". Making that Satan had 2000 more years to rule over the church and take christians to the see of death.

The law of the swine on a higher dimension are the unclean teachings that come out of the mouth of Christians. They preach hell, wrath and judgment. They are just part of the babylon confusion that is unclean. The teachings of traditional christianity will defile you a whole lot more than literally eating swine.