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the truth bringer (OP) User ID: 9017027 United Kingdom 03/12/2012 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [17] They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD There is 18 level's of hell which one you going to .... |
the truth bringer (OP) User ID: 9017027 United Kingdom 03/12/2012 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Both the Bible and the Qur’an prohibit the eating of pork. Muslims are aware of this prohibition and observe it strictly. However, most readers of the Bible say they do not know where they can find this in the Bible. In the book of Leviticus, chapter 11, v. 7, it is recorded that God declares the pig to be unclean for believers. Then, in verse 8, God says: “You must not eat their meat or touch their carcasses; they are unclean for you.” This command is repeated in Deuteronomy 14:7-8. Then, in Isaiah 65:2-4, and 66:17, God issues a stern warning against those who eat pork. Some people are aware of this prohibition from God, but they say that they can eat pork because St. Paul said that all food is clean in his letter to the Romans 14:20. St. Paul said this because he believed (as he wrote in his letter to the Ephesians 2:14-15) that Jesus had abolished the Law with all its commandments and regulations. He seems, however, to have misunderstood what he heard about Jesus. In the Gospel According to Matthew 5:17-20, Jesus is reported to have said quite the contrary, as follows: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law . . . ." Jesus then went on in that passage (in verse 19) to denounce anyone who would break the smallest commandment and teach others likewise. He also praised his true followers who will practice and teach even the smallest commandment. One of the commandments, as we have seen, is to stay away from pork. This is why the true followers of Jesus, holding on to his teachings, did not let unclean food such as pork enter their mouths, so that Peter, the chief disciple, can say, “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean” (Acts of the Apostles, ch. 10, v. 14) Five chapters later in the Acts of the Apostles, 15:29, we find that the original disciples still differentiate between clean and unclean foods, and this time Paul is in agreement with them. Six chapters later, in ch. 21, v. 25, their decision to impose food regulations on believers is mentioned without regret, and this time Paul is challenged to prove that he is in agreement with them; and he demonstrated his full agreement with them. What remains, then, is that Jesus, on whom be peace, upheld the prohibition against pork. His disciples also upheld it, and so must all his followers. Last Edited by the truth bringer on 03/12/2012 02:15 PM There is 18 level's of hell which one you going to .... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1349107 United States 03/12/2012 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And some people say he died on the cross and those laws were forgotten ... Quoting: the truth bringer If THAT WAS THE CASE WHY DOES IT SAY THOSE THAT EAT SWINE WILL BE CONSUMED IN THE SECOND COMING ... WAKE UP ... Isaah: Old testament, before Christ, before the new testament. Does Christ save us from our sins or not? If we beleive that eating pork is a sin then we are bound to all the other laws of Moses. Go read the some 600 laws of moses and follow them if you can, but I bet you can't. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1349107 United States 03/12/2012 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Bible is a spiritual book read with literal eyes. As long as you read the Bible without spirit you are spiritually blind, following the ways of the flesh. Life is in the blood, not the flesh, without blood (the spirit) the flesh is dead. The Bible is symbolic, not literal. Pigs are symbolically filthy, just as we are in our sins. Christ cleanses us from our sins and thus we are cleansed just as a pig is washed from its filth. |
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the truth bringer (OP) User ID: 9017027 United Kingdom 03/12/2012 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And some people say he died on the cross and those laws were forgotten ... Quoting: the truth bringer If THAT WAS THE CASE WHY DOES IT SAY THOSE THAT EAT SWINE WILL BE CONSUMED IN THE SECOND COMING ... WAKE UP ... Isaah: Old testament, before Christ, before the new testament. Does Christ save us from our sins or not? If we beleive that eating pork is a sin then we are bound to all the other laws of Moses. Go read the some 600 laws of moses and follow them if you can, but I bet you can't. its out of the new testament idiot There is 18 level's of hell which one you going to .... |
bigD111 User ID: 4221691 United States 03/12/2012 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it is alluding to idol worship in some way OP. Just my opinion, but I have a real good relationship with the Lord and I eat pork and have raised it in the past. Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law and we have that promise. deplorably republican |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11293621 United States 03/12/2012 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it is alluding to idol worship in some way OP. Just my opinion, but I have a real good relationship with the Lord and I eat pork and have raised it in the past. Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law and we have that promise. Quoting: bigD111 The curse of the Law is death, not the Law itself Rom 7:12 Wherefore the Torah is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. The New Covenant is the Torah/Law written upon the hearts and minds of the believer by the Ruach haKodesh- Hebrews 8:6-10, Jeremiah 31:31-33 Do we make void the Torah/Law by Faith, Let it never be, we Establish the Torah Romans 3:31 We establish, Keep the Torah, because we are new Creations, not to become a new creation You can not walk, live your life as Yeshua lived His Life and Nullify His Torah To the Torah and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. Isaiah 8:20 as for swine's flesh the OP is correct, the context is YESHUA's Judgment upon all flesh, and those who sanctify themselves, gardens in this sense are places of pagan or mixed worship, then three things that are not for food are mentioned All things that God created are good, not all things were created to be food If it is sanctified by the word of Elohiym as food, it is Clean Where is Swine's flesh clean in the scriptures Is it when YESHUA cast a legion of demons into a herd of swine being kept for food and they ran off the cliff into the sea? |
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Midnite_rider User ID: 1580435 United States 03/12/2012 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Matthew 15:11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man This is sufficient for me, the words of Jesus himself. I'd like to agree with you, but then we would both be wrong. To get ahead in life, you have to learn to saddle your own horse. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11663709 United States 03/12/2012 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Isa.66 Quoting: the truth bringer [15] For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire. [16] For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many. Again, we know what time this is; the second coming of the Lord. [17] They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD. there you go chrisitans , your all going to be consumed by the lord fire for eating pork ... give it up NOW You can eat what you want it is no sin. Read about it in the new testament. The tablecloth full of food held up to paul to tell him that it was ok to eat anything with hoofs, without hoofs etc etc but to be courteous with others who do not believe they can eat whatever they want. (The jewish people). But to stay away from blood and strangled things. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12359885 Ireland 03/12/2012 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The curse of the Law referred to the many thousands of extra laws added on by the Pharisees , it referred to the Talmud . Yeshua and all the Apostles kept the Torah(Law of Moses) . This is for everyone on this thread who professes Christ , ponder it deeply , you still have some time left to become righteous and holy . Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. What is sin and iniquity ??? anomia: lawlessness Original Word: ἀνομία, ας, ἡ Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine Transliteration: anomia Phonetic Spelling: (an-om-ee'-ah) Short Definition: lawlessness, iniquity Definition: lawlessness, iniquity, disobedience, sin. Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness. 1 John 3:3 There is only one Law and that Law is the Law of Moses . |
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quietwave User ID: 5808975 United States 03/12/2012 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Bible is a spiritual book read with literal eyes. As long as you read the Bible without spirit you are spiritually blind, following the ways of the flesh. Life is in the blood, not the flesh, without blood (the spirit) the flesh is dead. The Bible is symbolic, not literal. Pigs are symbolically filthy, just as we are in our sins. Christ cleanses us from our sins and thus we are cleansed just as a pig is washed from its filth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1349107 well said. |
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Jesus Barmy Army User ID: 6199901 United Kingdom 03/12/2012 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stop scaremongering our scarecrows!. Pork, Beef and Lamb are dense foods. Chicken/Turkey and Fish is much lighter and healthier. Fruits and Vegetables is the Ultimate. If you are eating Beef or Lamb, then Pork is healthier in this dense foods categories. Lay off dense foods as much as you can if not altogether. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12359885 Ireland 03/12/2012 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12359885 Should have said as an act of mourning . |