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Broken Promises: Pensions All Over America Are Being Savagely Cut Or Are Vanishing Completely

 
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I have no sympathy for government workers, their benefits or their unions.
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Did you know that most state/government workers have NO SOCIAL SECURITY and that THEY PAID INTO THE PENSION SYSTEM?


The reason the money's not there isn't because the benefits are "too generous" its because the politicians "borrowed" from those funds and purposely underfunded the plans promising to pay what they owe "later."

I am not a state worker but have many as clients. By working in the public sector, they made LESS money in wages than comparable private sector jobs because they wanted the security of the pensions.

THE LIBERAL PRESS IS DEMONIZING PUBLIC WORKERS LIKE THEY DEMONIZED WALL STREET. THEY ARE PITTING US AGAINST EACH OTHER--DELIBERATELY.

THEY MONEY'S NOT THERE BECAUSE IT WAS TAKEN, NOT BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE ARE GETTING "TOO MUCH."
 Quoting: telling it straight


this is true
i took a pay cut to get a job that had a pension and they take almost 25% of every paycheck to pay into the fund.. its not a free ride at all. i sure hope like hell the money is there when i need it.
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Wow. 25% Are all pensions like this?
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The Plan has long been that we shall all be Welfare recipients, and at the mercy of TPTB.
In his book, "Between Two Ages," Brzezinski wrote: "The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values."

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I guess most here think that cops don't deserve their pensions. Ya know...the people that keep the community safe? I know there are some bad apples but don't take that out on the rest of them.

Their salaries have no social security taken out and 1/3 of the paycheck is taken to go to their retirement fund. At no choice of their own.

So now when they retire they have NO pension and NO social security. The money taken from their paychecks for retirement was invested (or spent) FOR them. No choice in the matter.

Say what you want but it isn't fair.

As far as the government employees who sit on their "ass". FOR YEARS these employees had lower wages than the private sector but EXCELLENT benefits. Now the private sector SUCKS and wages have decreased so you are picking on the government employees. Where were you when they made 25% less then the rest?

Well, they are starting with snatching the public employees pensions and it will end with the rest. Because they will find another reason to get away with it.
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I have no sympathy for government workers, their benefits or their unions.
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it is also happening with big corperations,
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True they pay a lot, and all Gov employees are not the 100K police and fire high-ups. Our mechanics for the city get 24 dollars an hour, after 25 years, wow.
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I have no sympathy for government workers, their benefits or their unions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12343289


I worked hard for a major company cough"g" um "e"

bait you to retire at 60 with the funny formula
had g...e stock at almost $40 / share

2 years ago they saw up our company that was makin' $$$$
60-70% of our workforce was 50+

they f'k'd everyone
made money
paid no taxes

its not just gov't workers dumbass, its everyone
if you are not ready to move your parents/grandparents in get ready to (and support them with NO ss)
or be the low life that sends then to a state retirement home to die early

thats the devaluation of the $$$ (and human life, too)
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I have no sympathy for government workers, their benefits or their unions.
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it is also happening with big corperations,
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How about we all just see that it don't matter if it's pensions, 401K or Social inSecurity, none of it will be around when any of us retire. The rich and powerful have enslaved us all.
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I have no sympathy for government workers, their benefits or their unions.
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Did you know that most state/government workers have NO SOCIAL SECURITY and that THEY PAID INTO THE PENSION SYSTEM?


The reason the money's not there isn't because the benefits are "too generous" its because the politicians "borrowed" from those funds and purposely underfunded the plans promising to pay what they owe "later."

I am not a state worker but have many as clients. By working in the public sector, they made LESS money in wages than comparable private sector jobs because they wanted the security of the pensions.

THE LIBERAL PRESS IS DEMONIZING PUBLIC WORKERS LIKE THEY DEMONIZED WALL STREET. THEY ARE PITTING US AGAINST EACH OTHER--DELIBERATELY.

THEY MONEY'S NOT THERE BECAUSE IT WAS TAKEN, NOT BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE ARE GETTING "TOO MUCH."
 Quoting: telling it straight


this is true
i took a pay cut to get a job that had a pension and they take almost 25% of every paycheck to pay into the fund.. its not a free ride at all. i sure hope like hell the money is there when i need it.
 Quoting: Anubis



You better get your union reps (if you have any) to SPEAK UP and get to the media and demand these liberal reporters cover what's REALLY going on. Do you hear the hate and envy on this board? People don't understand that YOU contribute to YOUR pension and YOU are being ripped off.
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I guess most here think that cops don't deserve their pensions. Ya know...the people that keep the community safe? I know there are some bad apples but don't take that out on the rest of them.
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Then it's up to the "Good" Cops to do something about the corruption. Otherwise, they are and will be viewed as the same... enemies of anyone who loves the freedom to be left the fuck alone, and not fined, harassed, and terrorized.

There is NO GREY LINE


I have no sympathy for government workers, their benefits or their unions.
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it is also happening with big corporations,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4022097



No sympathy.

If I'm ever meet one of these assholes crying about his government job/career after civilization crumbles, I will happily and merrily remove his head and use it as a water bowl.
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All I can say is this; "Kiss it Goodbye, assholes".

Years of biting your tongue, doing what you were told, never questioning the morality of the commands you were given, never a thought as to who, what PERSON, would be negatively affected, touched, by your conscious actions.

You enabled the evil in this world, and you're guilty in eyes of truth.

Judges judged unfairly. Prosecutors built careers on the backs of those unfortunate enough to be poor. Clerks filed paperwork, while jailers jailed without question or conscious.

Meter maids gave out tickers for imaginary crimes, while police created crime to secure a retirement and pension, without thought or regard for who actually suffered from the decisions you made each day.

Fathers lost their jobs, their freedom, and many their families. Sons went fatherless, daughters whet wayward into the hands of the ungodly, while mothers lost the memory of "Security" and family.

All the suffering of America, can be contributed to someone, YOU, "just doing my job", so you could have the peace of mind and comfort of a material-rich existence in your last days.

Now, the System has reneged on it's agreement with you.

You get nothing, except for the image staring back at you in the mirror, hollow and without Spirit.

What will you do?


You will go to work, still, a hollow and empty container for the desires of Zion. You will go to work, do as your told, and you will believe any lie you are told. The carrot will always be over your head, and you will chase it for the rest of the days of your life.

OR, you will Awaken.


To awaken is to be "Born Again". To see the great lie is a blessing, a call to arms. Many see the lie, consciously, at some point in their life. Some follow the calling to improve their lives, the lives of those around them, and more importantly the lives of the generations you will never meet.

Some awaken to see the lie, yet live in fear, fear of change or fear of some imagined pain for yourself, or loved ones. This fear can shut the eyes, close their ears, and shut off the Spirit to growth.....

It's this "Individual" who truly is DEAD.

Then there is the Individual who sees, hears, and takes truth to heart. He/She will never be the same again, because it is this person who is truly blessed, because they understand that all the pain and suffering they might endure to stand for and spread the truth, is meaningless to what really matters in this life.

It's this person that stops being a cog in the System, and picks up a screwdriver.

We need many, many, screwdrivers to take apart this system.



Please think about that if you are one of the Cogs in this system. You were promised "security", but all you did was rob another of the same.


There is a spiritual consequence for that.
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just had to say that was an epic rant
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The Unions and the Politicians are both to blame.

As has been said, they've been underfunding these "Pensions" for years. The politicians kick the can down the road, and hope they have moved on before it goes bad.

The Unions do not say jack, do they warn the members that the State is underfunding?

No.

It's all a big con game, electing my boss, whom promises low taxes, jobs a plenty, high salaries, and lavish retirement.

Welcome back to the real World.

Here in the Real World, public servants work for the public, when we take a hit, you MFer's take a hit. Maybe, just Fing maybe you should not have voted for all the "Free Traders" all these years.

Voting to send your neighbors jobs away, now the State has no tax base, because there are no privet sector JOBS. You did not care before, when your neighbor's house got foreclosed on. He lost his family and his self respect. You did not even offer to help load the moving truck.

Oh but now, now it's your turn, now the public is supposed to cry you a Fing river.

It was all just "THE JOBS NOBODY WANTED", just the jobs, it turns out EVERYONE NEEDED.

Well, these are just the Pension plans " Nobody Wanted".

FUCK YOU TOO, AND FUCK YOUR KIND.
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Remove the evil of your deeds from My sight.
Cease to do evil,
Learn to do good;Seek justice,
Reprove the ruthless,Defend the orphan,Plead for the widow.

Your Governance is puppet whore of the Banks, it is not a real boy. Stop pretending it can move on it's own.
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The Plan has long been that we shall all be Welfare recipients, and at the mercy of TPTB.
 Quoting: Muzzle


more like welfareless

read some history!!

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

they never got paid

wake the fuck up

if you lose eyesight, limbs, or your mind from service to tptb do you really think your family will do ok?

they should, cause thats what they are telling us they take the bucks out of our checks for.

but, they are not, and all of the dumb asses here that want to dog welfare/unemployment/foodstamps/military/etc people better damn'd well realize you/me/all of us are being f'd out of 1/3 of better of our paychecks while people without a clue dictate laws to make us provide more, while they provide nothing

how about the people with the auto companies with pensions

gm and chrysler f'd them

the steel workers in the 30's ...same
miners...
postal workers, military, hiway guys, everyone!!!!!
they are NOT gonna pay their bills, only their paychecks

they have done it for 1000 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
same game, different...well...maybe not as I feel as I have been here before!!!!

dr
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So the rest of us should get fucked to avoid screwing the same government employes who make our lives miserable.

How would you feel if you worked for a state or local government for 20 or 30 years only to have your pension slashed dramatically or taken away entirely? Well, this exact scenario is playing out from coast to coast and in the years ahead millions of elderly Americans are going to be affected by broken promises and vanishing pensions. In the old days, things were much different. You would get hired by a big company or a government institution and you knew that the retirement benefits that they were promising you would be there when you retired in a few decades. Unfortunately, we have now arrived at a time when government institutions and big companies have promised far more than they are able to deliver, and "pension reform" has become one of the hot button issues all over the nation. Many Americans that have been basing their financial futures on their pensions are waking up one day and finding that their pensions are either gone or have been cut back dramatically. According to Northwestern University Professor John Rauh, the latest estimate of the total amount of unfunded pension and healthcare obligations for state and local governments across the United States is 4.4 trillion dollars. America is continually becoming a poorer nation and all of that money is simply not going to magically materialize somehow. So where is that 4.4 trillion dollars going to come from? Well, either pension benefits are going to have to be cut a lot more all over America or taxes will need to be raised dramatically. Either way, we are all going to feel the pain of these broken promises.

[link to theeconomiccollapseblog.com]
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I work for a VERY large company in Calif that is laying off

They want the average pay grade to go down. They have laid ppl off and put out similar reqs at a lower pay grade for them to apply to. Others have had to just go out the door.

Also, all new hiring is supposed to be college kids.
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I guess most here think that cops don't deserve their pensions. Ya know...the people that keep the community safe? I know there are some bad apples but don't take that out on the rest of them.
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Then it's up to the "Good" Cops to do something about the corruption. Otherwise, they are and will be viewed as the same... enemies of anyone who loves the freedom to be left the fuck alone, and not fined, harassed, and terrorized.

There is NO GREY LINE


I have no sympathy for government workers, their benefits or their unions.
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it is also happening with big corporations,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4022097



No sympathy.

If I'm ever meet one of these assholes crying about his government job/career after civilization crumbles, I will happily and merrily remove his head and use it as a water bowl.
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Make that a travel potty....
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So the rest of us should get fucked to avoid screwing the same government employes who make our lives miserable.
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LOL
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So the rest of us should get fucked to avoid screwing the same government employes who make our lives miserable.
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LOL
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hf


bump
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My brother just retired and in the city he worked it takes 20 firefighters paying into the system to keep his pension/benefits. When those 20 retire they will each need 20+ supporting each of them.

I feel firemen are one of the few truly worthwhile public service jobs, but even my brother, who disagrees with me on many things, agrees it is unsustainable. He is paid 85% of what he retired at, well over six figures, has full medical for life. He complains that so many of the men he worked next to games the system, his favorite complaint was a guy who had 12 family members on medical, a cousin who lived in another part of the State but his coworker claimed as dependent. My brothers gripe was that the city paid for all the medical which meant his benefits were going to take a hit eventually.
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I have no sympathy for government workers, their benefits or their unions.
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clappa
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True they pay a lot, and all Gov employees are not the 100K police and fire high-ups. Our mechanics for the city get 24 dollars an hour, after 25 years, wow.
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And I bet they do very little.
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So the rest of us should get fucked to avoid screwing the same government employes who make our lives miserable.
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LOL
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hfbump
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you do not get it

the gov't made an agreement/ a contract

they can break it when they want

but if you made and broke it, you'd be sh'ttin' paper for years (thats after you got old in prison, and bubba wasn't re-packing it)

dumbass sheeple
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boo hoo , the show will really start in 2014 when 400000 goverment seat farters will be eligible to retire . That means they have all been on the job since 1984 or earlier. Should be a hoot watching the govco fuck them longtime.

No pensioneers , those of us who could not get pensioned jobs cause boomers took them all, or hired only immediate family members for them.
In fact we are totally enjoying watching your incestous little fiefdoms get donkey punched.
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Carlin summed this up quite well.

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All I can say is this; "Kiss it Goodbye, assholes".

Years of biting your tongue, doing what you were told, never questioning the morality of the commands you were given, never a thought as to who, what PERSON, would be negatively affected, touched, by your conscious actions.

You enabled the evil in this world, and you're guilty in eyes of truth.

Judges judged unfairly. Prosecutors built careers on the backs of those unfortunate enough to be poor. Clerks filed paperwork, while jailers jailed without question or conscious.

Meter maids gave out tickers for imaginary crimes, while police created crime to secure a retirement and pension, without thought or regard for who actually suffered from the decisions you made each day.

Fathers lost their jobs, their freedom, and many their families. Sons went fatherless, daughters whet wayward into the hands of the ungodly, while mothers lost the memory of "Security" and family.

All the suffering of America, can be contributed to someone, YOU, "just doing my job", so you could have the peace of mind and comfort of a material-rich existence in your last days.

Now, the System has reneged on it's agreement with you.

You get nothing, except for the image staring back at you in the mirror, hollow and without Spirit.

What will you do?


You will go to work, still, a hollow and empty container for the desires of Zion. You will go to work, do as your told, and you will believe any lie you are told. The carrot will always be over your head, and you will chase it for the rest of the days of your life.

OR, you will Awaken.


To awaken is to be "Born Again". To see the great lie is a blessing, a call to arms. Many see the lie, consciously, at some point in their life. Some follow the calling to improve their lives, the lives of those around them, and more importantly the lives of the generations you will never meet.

Some awaken to see the lie, yet live in fear, fear of change or fear of some imagined pain for yourself, or loved ones. This fear can shut the eyes, close their ears, and shut off the Spirit to growth.....

It's this "Individual" who truly is DEAD.

Then there is the Individual who sees, hears, and takes truth to heart. He/She will never be the same again, because it is this person who is truly blessed, because they understand that all the pain and suffering they might endure to stand for and spread the truth, is meaningless to what really matters in this life.

It's this person that stops being a cog in the System, and picks up a screwdriver.

We need many, many, screwdrivers to take apart this system.



Please think about that if you are one of the Cogs in this system. You were promised "security", but all you did was rob another of the same.


There is a spiritual consequence for that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12249427


just had to say that was an epic rant
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goodnews
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Bummer, future generations of government employees will have to come back to the real world. You know, regular wages, contribute to your health care, and yes, even save for your own retirement.

Unfortunately, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that these bloated government pensions, wages, and benefits are not only unsustainable right now, but for future generations as well.

Hit the reset button and end them all. Sure some government employees are going to get screwed and it will hurt. But guess what, last I checked many in the real world are unemployed and have burned through their retirement just trying to survive.

Welcome to the real world and life off the dole.
 Quoting: PokerStar


It used to be case you worked to you were 65, and then promptly croaked a few years later. Now people are force retired at 55, living to they're 85 and we wonder why pension plans are in trouble???

Duhhh? Solution is stop electing politicians or parties with policies as dumb as a bag of hammers.

Funny how now that H Cain is out, that income tax reform is off the menu. You want fiscal change, elect Tea Party candidates. You want to join the Greeks in the bread line, keep electing the party line democrats and republicans. They've both proved themselves equally incompetent.
 Quoting: Woot Woot



Tax reform isn't off Ron Paul's menu.
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Yeah I was going to say that, seemed pointless though because most people won't bother to read his platform.

But I'm glad you did. h cain's plan was stupid. Most people would have paid more than they do now. nine percent tax and nine percent sales tax, how moronic was that?

All or most of the tea party candidates are corrupted instantly or shortly after they get to mordor. How many voted for the NDAA and similar "bills"?

I did have some hope for them but basically they've been co opted by the establishment.
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I read that Los Angeles is basically paying for salary for 2 police depts....one working and the other on pension.....crazy huh?
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boo hoo , the show will really start in 2014 when 400000 goverment seat farters will be eligible to retire . That means they have all been on the job since 1984 or earlier. Should be a hoot watching the govco fuck them longtime.

No pensioneers , those of us who could not get pensioned jobs cause boomers took them all, or hired only immediate family members for them.
In fact we are totally enjoying watching your incestous little fiefdoms get donkey punched.
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no, only the trolls are
jealous cause you didn't get the postman job

guess what, the gov is also canning vets with less than 1-2 years left

BROKEN contract, as is with every citizen in the us

wtfu

dr
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True they pay a lot, and all Gov employees are not the 100K police and fire high-ups. Our mechanics for the city get 24 dollars an hour, after 25 years, wow.
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And I bet they do very little.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


Oh no, Cry a Fing river, only $25 an hour to work at the city garage.

Like they are the only one's whom ever busted a knuckle for a living.

How long does any think that Governance can pay for x3 the employee's they have working for us?

Two retired workers for every one the have working, does not work that way, ask GM.

We used to have an old saying, as goes GM, so goes the Nation.

All know what happened to GM.

The good Ol'Days are gone, time to stop buying everything under the Sun, and ya might want to treat your kids and Grandkids OK, because your going to be living with them when ya get old.

Just like the World was before Governance became God.

It's the Banks running the Show.
“Wash yourselves, make yourselves clean;
Remove the evil of your deeds from My sight.
Cease to do evil,
Learn to do good;Seek justice,
Reprove the ruthless,Defend the orphan,Plead for the widow.

Your Governance is puppet whore of the Banks, it is not a real boy. Stop pretending it can move on it's own.
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Re: Broken Promises: Pensions All Over America Are Being Savagely Cut Or Are Vanishing Completely
boo hoo , the show will really start in 2014 when 400000 goverment seat farters will be eligible to retire . That means they have all been on the job since 1984 or earlier. Should be a hoot watching the govco fuck them longtime.

No pensioneers , those of us who could not get pensioned jobs cause boomers took them all, or hired only immediate family members for them.
In fact we are totally enjoying watching your incestous little fiefdoms get donkey punched.
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rockon

Yeah the writing has been on the wall for many years...lol. I'm watching with you. My generation will have no pension, SS, or any other damn holy shit "social program" to fall back on when we go. Of course you could put your $$ in a 401k cuz they make so much wink wink...LMFAO! I wonder how they will clean the streets of the poor when the bigwigs come to town in the future. Fun for all for sure.
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Re: Broken Promises: Pensions All Over America Are Being Savagely Cut Or Are Vanishing Completely
These government or PERS and NEA plans are exorbitant and unsustainable. And the politicians should have theirs eliminated also.





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