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San Francisco Approves Handgun Ban, Canadian PrimeMinister Makes Nation Wide Speech for Gun Control

 
WeTFoot
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i guess people watch to much the stooge at young age in this forum.

It begins to dye on themself.
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11/10/2005 07:02 AM
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Everywhere that gun ownership has been CRIMINALIZED, violent crime has INCREASED.

THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE FACT

Argue that
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Then can you explain the very low crime rate in my contry? Canada.
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11/10/2005 07:03 AM
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a world where everyone needs a hand gun to protect themself is a sad world indeed/
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11/10/2005 07:06 AM
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i cannot see a 4 year old killing his father by throwing a rock on him.<<<<


No but an 8 year old can. Where do you draw the line????

But a gun....diffrent dont you think?
what kind of debate is that? look what your argument are dam it,.<<<<

Look dude, lets use common sense here. Keep your guns away from children, get it, until they are old enough to be taught to handle and shoot them correctly. I started when I was 10.

And won the Virginia Junior Smallbore shooting championships when I was 14.

And competed in the US National Championships at age 15 at Camp Perry , Ohio.

So you see wetfoot, with the proper training, guidence, and safety practices, kids can, and often do, use and compete with guns, and have a great time doing it I might add.

Yes, guns are dangerous. So are cars, knives, hatchets, axes, hammers and a whole slew of things I can name. So what???
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a real shame that is.

3150.

Can you please tell the tale for us.

And i am happy that it helped you ina good way. Really./

I just hope good is all that will come out of owning a gun. I somehow dont beleive this. In general. Maybe a good thing happen to you, maybe 10 bad things will happen to others. Thats is why i beleive trading your guns for candys is what i beleive is best.
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11/10/2005 07:08 AM
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i dont disagree with this at all.

I am not denying that some people are responsable and in no way will let the gun neir their children but....

look around you, just look around.

Do you see responsable adult every corner you look?

If you answer yes, then i wish i was in texas.

Cause i look aroung me, and thats all i see, dumb fucking idiots. And i am not desexcluding myself from that list.
Omega

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11/10/2005 07:09 AM
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Then can you explain the very low crime rate in my contry? Canada.<<<<


Because you are a bunch of pansy ass communists?

Hey Wetfoot, growing pot in your country is your biggest cash crop. I have read criminal gangs are moving into Canada to conduct such business, guess what, they have guns.

You don´t.

You lose.
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WeTFoot
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gun owner should pass a serious test.

A very serious one. And all his guns should be reported and marked, and if he looses one, hes responsable to say it was stole, if not, hes responsable for the crime that was committed with his own gun.

people seem to have lost the sense of accountabilety.

They learn from their governmenet i suppose. Blame others.
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11/10/2005 07:11 AM
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wet foot, are you feigning being ethical again?
WeTFoot
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11/10/2005 07:12 AM
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O i now wassup with drugs in my contry, beleive me.

I am up to my neck in that, and like you said, i dont own a gun. And dont deal with gun.

if a foreign basterds come and mess my buisness, well, no guns again, i have several methods of intimidation that worked in the past.

And, no gun. They better kill me.
WeTFoot
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11/10/2005 07:13 AM
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Because you are a bunch of pansy ass communists?

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ok now you just doont know what to say.

What kind of answer is that?

we dont have crime in canada becasue we are what? communist?

then maybe you shoud try communism over capitalism, maybe less soul would be lost that way.

I was trying to be reasonable in my talking but if trash talk you want, trash talk youll get.

Fat fuck
WeTFoot
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11/10/2005 07:14 AM
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so is that why canada is crimeless?
becase were communist?

can you elaborate on that, your a genius after all.
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11/10/2005 07:15 AM
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So I guess if someone steals your car and kills someone with it you would take responsibility and be willing to be punished?
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a real shame that is.
3150.
Can you please tell the tale for us.<<<<<<

Not necessary, I was armed, he was not, he was trying to steal a chainsaw off my land. Gee, a chainsaw is dangerous too wetfoot.


And yes, it´s peaceful, MOSTLY, in Texas. Certainly where I live in the country. In the big cities it´s not, why??? Because criminals have guns. Illegal ones. Black market guns. But they are mostly kept in check. Why?

Because an armed society is a polite society.

damned
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WeTFoot
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11/10/2005 07:16 AM
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Guns are made to kill, cars are made to drive.

Common sense people, thats what missing from our society.
WeTFoot
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11/10/2005 07:17 AM
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question,\


if the guy would have ignored you, would you have shot him?
Screamin´ Eagle

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11/10/2005 07:17 AM
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Mon, August 29, 2005

EDITORIAL: So much for gun control

When we first read the headline in last Thursday´s Sun - "Feds taking aim at gun violence" - we thought that there must have been some mistake.

Gun violence? What gun violence? We have a very expensive national gun registry that was put into place to ensure that every firearm in Canada can be tracked. We have cumbersome regulations in place that make it more difficult for Canadians to buy guns. We have armies of bureaucrats shuffling paper to and fro to make sure that everything related to guns in this country is all very above-board and law-abiding.

So there can´t possibly be any gun violence in Canada!

OK, we made our point. There is still lots of gun violence in Canada, and the gun registry hasn´t done a single thing to stop it.

And it´s not like we´d ever wish daytime street shootings on anyone, but surely the irony of the latest spate of gunplay to plague Toronto - where shootings have become almost a daily occurrence - is not lost on people. The gun registry was originally put in place by the Liberals to placate urban Ontario voters. And who is currently being terrorized by rampant gun violence? Torontonians.


There´s a lesson here to be learned, but neither Toronto voters nor the Liberal party is going to learn it.

Edmonton cabinet minister Anne McLellan declared that "I´m very concerned about the whole question of gun violence and about the whole question of gun smuggling." Great. Although she immediately blunted the impact of those remarks by insisting that "we have no evidence that there are more guns being smuggled into the country than ever before."

Well, there´s only one of two choices here, and neither one reflects terribly well on current Liberal crime policies. Either these guns are getting into the country through the United States or from other countries through our ports of entry and the federal government´s customs agents are not able to prevent it, or these guns are, in fact, originating from here in Canada and the $2-billion boondoggle of a gun registry is - surprise, surprise! - not stopping criminal from using guns.

Back in late 1994, when then-justice minister Allan Rock first unveiled the gun-control program, he declared, "This tough new gun-control program will improve public safety and also send a strong message that the criminal misuse of guns will not be tolerated."

Eleven years later, the Liberals are suddenly worried about gun crime because Toronto has been blitzed by gun violence. In a more sane country, Toronto would realize that the gun registry has been exposed as an expensive waste of money and would punish the Liberals for lying to them by voting them out. And the Grits would shut down their useless registry and put the money into actual police officers fighting crime.

As we said, these lessons are all going to go unlearned.
Omega

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11/10/2005 07:21 AM
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Guns are made to kill, cars are made to drive.<<<<

But the kinetic energy potential of a car greatly exceeds that of a gun, if I choose to use a car to mow down people I could cause far greater damage wetfoot. And kill many more people.

Common sense people, thats what missing from our society.<<<<<

I can see that wetfoot.
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Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice.
Omega

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"I´m very concerned about the whole question of gun violence and about the whole question of gun smuggling<<<<

Good one screaming eagle, cuz what wetfoot does not get is outlaw guns, than you create a huge criminal black market FOR guns, and the only ones who end up being armed are the criminals.

Get it wetfoot????
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Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner.

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WeTFoot
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11/10/2005 07:24 AM
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Canadians apparently own more gun per capita then the states.

Please explain to me then why the crime with guns per capita is lower?

Please.

I do undertand violence in big citie are more common. Hey, i lived in a big city and i had a gun, i had shoot a couple people myself. States has more big cities but still.

explain.

Toronto, if that is what your talking about, half the gun crime comitted are made by Detroit gang members crossing the borders.
WeTFoot
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11/10/2005 07:25 AM
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i see more your point of views,

I still dont want my neighbours, that is a complete idiot, o own a fucking gun.

Now what the fuck you suggest me to do?

kill him in his sleep and cover up?
WeTFoot
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11/10/2005 07:26 AM
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so from your philosophi omega, should we also legalize cocaine?

Do you thinkless people would overdose if it was on the market for legal?
Omega

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11/10/2005 07:26 AM
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question,

if the guy would have ignored you, would you have shot him?<<<<<

Probably, it was after dark and in Texas you can use lethal force in defense of property if the sun is down. No shit.

It´s real simple wetfoot. If you don´t want to get shot in Texas stealing something after sundown, don´t steal.
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Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner.

Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide.

Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice.
WeTFoot
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11/10/2005 07:28 AM
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see thats what scares me.

People that values more material then human life.
Omega

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Canadians apparently own more gun per capita then the states.<<<<<

I don´t think so, show me the statistic with a link please.
Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science.
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Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner.

Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide.

Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice.
WeTFoot
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omega.

let me tell you what bugs me from that texas law.

Lets say i have an ennemy, and want to get rid of him.

I ask him in the private to come at my place s we can truce.

He comes and knock on my door, i open and shoot and kill.

My excuse, he was on my fucking lawn.

do you see the problem?
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you are 250 million people,

we are 25 million.

you have 240 milluion people that are poor and cant legally own a gun.
Omega

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11/10/2005 07:31 AM
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so from your philosophi omega, should we also legalize cocaine?
Do you thinkless people would overdose if it was on the market for legal?<<<<

Yes, legalize it, tax it, and take the criminal element, who have BLACK MARKET GUNS, out of the equation.

What one puts in their bodies is of thier own choice......
Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science.
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Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner.

Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide.

Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice.
WeTFoot
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that was taken from the movie "bowling from columbine" michael moore.
Omega

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that was taken from the movie "bowling from columbine" michael moore.<<<

Oh that explains everything, you have been programmed by that pompous ass??????

That movie is bullshit, and his statistics are horseshit.
Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science.
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Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner.

Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide.

Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice.

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