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Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser - Proof that we live in a siumlated quantum reality!

 
JADR
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This is the COOLEST video I've seen in a while.....thanks, OP!

In my very humble opinion......materialism just might be the Great Deception that scriptures talk about......
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Hence "God" or the creator behind this simulated reality could be a machine that manifests matter by simulating it?

Let's say our existence / perceived reality is like a file on a computer and this machine is sending byte-parallel information to constantly complete the file.

The universe could then be a beta-stage-type software that is running as an operating system.

Not perfect or fully debugged but by far the most complex software ever created.

Which begs the question...

What hardware is that software running on and how does this "device" behind the uni-/multiverses look like?

:damne:
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Hack the Universe!
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cool stuff, but I guess we'll just have to take their word for it.
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In the second experiment, in which they use the camera between when the particles strike the film and when they are exiting the slits as opposed to before entering them (thus expecting them to have to appear as waves as they did when no camera was used), perhaps the field or system the particles are a part of at the moment they become observed before they are recorded causes them to be instantaneously charged at the superposition of observation potential that is always there even when they are not being observed, and that even when they are behaving as a wave some aspect of them is striking the film as particle.

I didn't see this possibility ruled out.

Why can't they have duality the whole time and only manifest one or the other at the very last nanonanonanosecond depending on what aspect of their field is charged at the very moment of it?

This would imply that they are in relationship to each other, they are always essentially one even though they can be perceived as being distinct; i.e. no matter how they are recorded in the end after having one or another aspect being charged to "strike" by observation or lack thereof they are always having both aspects at all times in any given relationship that can change instantaneously when a relationship's dynamics are affected and thus it becones another instananeously and the only thing that can change faster than the progression of the speed of light through space is something behaving in a systemic relationship.

Maybe something can be applied to physics as with this monist philosophy of mind/matter that says all is one substance, all is always unified, but with distinction of aspect:

"whereas neutral monism allows the context of a given group of neutral elements to determine whether the group is mental, physical, both, or neither, double-aspect theory requires the mental and the physical to be inseparable and irreducible (though distinct).[1] Double-aspect theorists include Baruch Spinoza, Gustav Fechner, Arthur Schopenhauer, George Henry Lewes, John Polkinghorne and Thomas Nagel.[citation needed] David Chalmers explores a double-aspect view of information."

Last Edited by Mastema on 03/13/2012 02:32 PM
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Here's something I wrote yesterday to go along with what I was just saying:

"I honestly don't know that much about computers.

Try this:

Look at my avatar and at the visual representation of the different regions and organelles of the human brain (the brain is like a tiny reflection of the universe's core network/realm of the gods and the highest being cosmically beyond the scope of our perception and not like monotheistic religions would have you believe, although I count myself as a dual-aspect monist and perceive a being more influential and sensory than humans and other higher beings I may, in effect, be Atheist since I have no belief in a personal god) and of the nervous system (like an intergalactic network, with the galaxies being like servers or nodes as the body but also collectively directly relating to the brain core) and consider that a lot of consciousness is being generated by the activity of the brain (essentially is all) and that while not any given region can be called the very identity of the individual, certain regions may have "identities" and life of their own.

Over in the pineal gland there is no self and all subjectivity is annihilated in the uni-hemispheric (nirvana point/center) and lower in the body you have all of the living organs (star systems) and cells (solar systems) with their components (planets and people as components of it etc. as above so below) or some such analogy.

In other words the universe like the human being is an "internet" of sorts with a mind and minds of its own.

It's when two more things combine and something new is introduced into a system that affects the whole system via symbiogenesis whether it is the causative factors or the eventuality of it that true transcendence occurs.

What I really Selfishly want to happen is for the very natures or essences of my future wife, the earthling demigoddess, to somehow become an eternal part of the parent brain/fabric of the universe via causative factors of symbiogenesis and through lifeforms she gives birth to more than say, random people who are just temporary vessels and this is what I devote my life to because she is my actual highest ideal.

You can google and see that brain cells, human beings, trees, the internet, and the universe have much in common with each other. So why not particles, atoms, molecules, living cells, lifeforms, planets, solar systems, star systems, galaxies, black holes, and so on while we are at it?

It is truly mind boggling."
“If we could change ourselves, the tendencies in the world would also change. As a man changes his own nature, so does the attitude of the world change towards him. ... We need not wait to see what others do.” -Mahatma Ghandi
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Maybe every time something truly critical is observed that impacts how humans look at nature on the subconscious and conscious levels the very act of knowledge can bring about fundamental universal changes in our experience and observation.
“If we could change ourselves, the tendencies in the world would also change. As a man changes his own nature, so does the attitude of the world change towards him. ... We need not wait to see what others do.” -Mahatma Ghandi
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I've also added the information in this thread to my own thread where anyone can post their ideas or information in a moderated-like setting.
“If we could change ourselves, the tendencies in the world would also change. As a man changes his own nature, so does the attitude of the world change towards him. ... We need not wait to see what others do.” -Mahatma Ghandi
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Google Thomas Campbell's "my big TOE" it's the good stuff.
Nothing is irrelevant.
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Actually what he's missing here is the existence of a "watery type" element you don't see but is definitely there. It is an "ocean" of dark energy. Soooo...you really are firing particles through a wave that interferes with them. You just don't know they're there. Because when you do, they are not. "The Tau which is known is not the Tau..."

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IMO
we're getting to a point where you can no longer quantify nature with human math. similar to the inaccuracies with the current calendar year being 365.26 days. i believe that a new form of "math" will soon need to be developed, completely rendering all theories outdated. but thats just how i feel. sure 1=1 2=2, but im talking about scientifically saying that it takes 24 hours for the earth to spin, whereas in the "math" im talking about, you would use nature as the constant. where sunrise to sunrise would be one day. not 24.7498374043873209374032974097 hours or whatever.
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Actually what he's missing here is the existence of a "watery type" element you don't see but is definitely there. It is an "ocean" of dark energy. Soooo...you really are firing particles through a wave that interferes with them. You just don't know they're there. Because when you do, they are not. "The Tau which is known is not the Tau..."

Peace
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Such confidence. I envy your understanding of truth...
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It is an "ocean" of dark energy.
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Cool fantasy physics bro.
Be aware of what you KNOW and what you BELIEVE. Don't ever let what you believe block the path of knowledge, for knowledge is truth. Belief is a temporary crutch at best, and crutches are for disabled people.
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I wonder if observation is like a loop or feed back to the quantum state Where observation creates a redundant link(s) back to the originating quantum state causing interference.
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Re: Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser - Proof that we live in a siumlated quantum reality!
Actually what he's missing here is the existence of a "watery type" element you don't see but is definitely there. It is an "ocean" of dark energy. Soooo...you really are firing particles through a wave that interferes with them. You just don't know they're there. Because when you do, they are not. "The Tau which is known is not the Tau..."

Peace
 Quoting: Mayan Child 12459586


hmmmmm.....
you mean like this:

"If one was to create a universe, one would start with the building block of life. To us people, we call this water. To God, the building block of life is matter. Just like water, matter is all around us, inside us, in the ground underneath our feet and in the air we breath. Just like water, matter exists in three states: the matter we know and can see all around us, antimatter, and dark matter. And although dark matter has yet to be effectively proven, antimatter was captured for the first time in November of 2010 by CERN, a particle physics laboratory in Geneva. For all their brilliance, however, the scientists conducting these and similar studies around the world are too focused on protons and electrons to realize that with alternate forms of matter comes alternate realms of existence complete with alternate forms of life."
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Can someone explain to me why option 1 can only be true if it shows a wave? Maybe the electrons "knew" about the experiment the whole time. The idea that the cameras are the linch-pin of reality, rather than the expectations in the consciousnesses of the scientists, seems rather arbitrary to me. Observation maybe just has to be intended and voila! Particles.
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sa long as we can manipulate it it means shit! useless depressing i dont know shit crap. mathematicly speaking it is more likly we are in fact a simulation. However, since we can not react to it and have no influence we keep beeing slaves. I waaitt for the day I can escape this material evil reality just to become finally a machine myself. If I cant manage to stay alive untill this day all was for nothing. call me crazy, but i realized this long long time ago.
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What would be the point in us being "simulations" ?
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The whole "hidden camera" thing seems ludicrous. How do they know the electrons can't "see" them anyway?
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The whole "hidden camera" thing seems ludicrous. How do they know the electrons can't "see" them anyway?
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u are on the right track, in order ro see them u have to interact with them, there is no way you cant observe without interaction. ;-)
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what in da bleep i say!
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I thought it's been decided that there really is an ether. That's why energy propagates. I think of it like a pachinko game where balls are dropped through a matrix of pins and land in piles like the interference pattern.
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imho the study of quantum physics is a study of the effect time has on matter
the reason the experiment changes with the addition of the camera is because it has affected the time frame the experiment is being conducted in.
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this existance is a virtual reality for the prisoners being re educated. Unlike earthly prisons where you are sentenced for a time in this one you are sentenced until you have a realization or repentance. Until you do you will repeat until you do, called reincarnation or rebirth. When you are made well you will be returned to the real world you were removed from
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I wonder if observation is like a loop or feed back to the quantum state Where observation creates a redundant link(s) back to the originating quantum state causing interference.
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