JESUS is the FALSE PROPHET and the ANTI-CHRIST.

5And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. 6And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.



7And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

8The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. 9And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. 10And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. 11And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. 12And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. 13These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

14These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Lucifer is not Satan. Do not bad mouth Lucifer. Also, Jesus is not Lucifer, but definitely Satanic.

You're showing your ignorance, you don't understand what fire symbolizes do you?

The people who wrote the bible do.

Jesus represented the messenger, the go between of God and man.



SACRIFICIAL FIRE

Vedic beliefs

Vedic civilization was centered in the northern and northwestern parts of the Indian subcontinent during the period which the Vedas, texts related to early Indo-Aryan religion, were being composed, during the period of roughly 1500 BC to 500 BC.

Their religious beliefs held that “The relationship between humans and the deity was one of transaction, with (the sacrificial fire) taking the role of messenger between the two.”

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

As such, it will be him or the symbolic Jesus / Lucifer who does cause fire to come down from heaven.

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Agreed

Here is the one I fear!! HIM. the Creator of life.

American King James Version
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

I forgive any and all that have done me any harm or wrong.

please accept my confessions....and change my wicked heart O LORD GOD.

Before the Jewish God, people knew the gods were just humanoids.

Clever aliens and people fought against them, now people think God is one, a spirit in the sky.

It's nonsense but the fear of it keeps you in line.

The bible even proves this ...


Genesis 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

You see not a spirit in the sky, humanoids!
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diddly .

always had the gut feeling jesus people are barking up the wrong tree.

I dont believe everything the op is saying but what amazes me is there hasn't been one Christian that has been able to debunk the op's claims, all we are getting are nonsense aguements about believing/faith(heaven/hell) and lies from the pit and the same old people saying its bs, if its bs then explain why its bs!

ok i will. what about all the prophets who came hundreds if not thousands of years before Jesus came to earth who prophesied that the Messiah would arrive. This is laid out in the bible in so many places in the old testament.
1. He would be born of a Virgin (Isaiah 7:14 and Matthew 1:18).
2. He would be of the tribe of Judah (Genesis 49:10 and Luke 3:23, 33).
3. He would be of King David's seed (Jeremiah 23:5 and Luke 3:23, 31).
4. He would be born in Bethlehem (Micah 5:2 and Matthew 2:1).
5. He would be a prophet (Deuteronomy 18:18-19 and Matthew 21:11).
6. He would teach with parables (Psalms 78:2 and Matthew 13:34).
7. He would be preceded by a messenger (Isaiah 40:3, Malachi 3:1, and Matthew 3:1-2).
8. He would enter Jerusalem on a colt (Zechariah 9:9 and Luke 19:35-37).
9. He would be betrayed by a friend (Psalms 41:9 and Matthew 26:47-50).
10. He would be betrayed for 30 pieces of silver (Zechariah 11:12 and Matthew 26:15).
11. He would be forsaken by His disciples (Zechariah 13:7 and Mark 14:50).
12. The money would be thrown in the temple and used to buy the potter's field (Zechariah 11:13 and Matthew 27:5-7).
13. He would be accused by false witnesses (Psalms 35:11 and Matthew 26:59-60).
14. He would be silent before His accusers (Isaiah 53:7 and Matthew 27:12-14).
15. He would be beaten by his enemies (Isaiah 50:6, 53:5, and Matthew 27:26).
16. He would be spit upon and beaten (Isaiah 50:6 and Matthew 27:30).
17. He would be struck in the head with a rod (Micah 5:1 and Matthew 27:30).
18. He would be mocked (Psalms 22:7-8 and Matthew 27:29, 31).
19. His hands and feet would be pierced (Psalms 22:16, Luke 23:33, and John 20:25).
Note that this was predicted hundreds of years before crucifixion was invented.
20. Men would gamble for His clothing (Psalms 22:18 and John 19:23-24).
21. He would intercede in prayer for His transgressors (Isaiah 53:12 and Luke 23:34).
22. He would suffer thirst (Psalms 22:15 and John 19:28).
23. He would be offered gall and water (Psalms 69:21 and Matthew 27:34).
24. He would cry, "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me!" (Psalms 22:1 and Matthew 27:46).
25. He would be cut down in His prime (Psalms 89:45 and 102:23-24).
26. None of His bones would be broken (Exodus 12:46, Psalms 34:20, and John 19:32-33).
27. They would look upon Him whom they had pierced (Zechariah 12:10 and John 19:34).
28. He would be executed with thieves (Isaiah 53:12 and Matthew 27:38).
29. He would be buried in a rich man's tomb (Isaiah 53:9 and Matthew 27:57-60).

[link to www.matthewmcgee.org]

The whole bible was written in fairly recent times, older versions of the bible prove this.

The book has an agenda.

Some of it is simply from older writings and have been altered.

Read my other thread

Thread: Bible Secrets ... what the symbolism means

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Yea he did


God said in the BIble he is one and has no form


now they got Him as 3


and is like Appollo the son of Zeus


wtf


they say alot about this here



[link to yhvhisgod.wordpress.com]

Everything in Christianity is from prior.



CHRISTIAN RELIGION BASED ON QUEEN SEMIRAMIS.


And in regards to the worship of the moon goddess Semiramis, the so called queen of heaven. The cakes to the QUEEN OF HEAVEN were round and on them was cut a cross in honor of the sun god, and they were offered to the queen of heaven and today we call them “hot cross buns.” (Read Jeremiah 7:16-18). The forty days of “weeping for Tammuz” became Lent and at the close of Lent came Easter Sunday. The prophet Ezekiel was shown even greater abominations. (Read Ezekiel 8:12-18). This goddess Ishtar (Easter) came to be known as the goddess of springtime as in “new life,” or as history records it, the “goddess of reproduction.” The pagans would go to some mountain side early Sunday morning and worship this goddess as the sun was rising in the east. They gave themselves to immorality and indecency of every description. The eggs and rabbits were used as symbols of fertility and germination and hence “new life.” It all came into the Church gradually and was all blessed by the Catholic Church and given to the world. And some people wonder why God calls the Catholic Church Babylon!

“The use of temples, and these dedicated to particular saints, and ornamented on occasions with branches of trees; incense, lamps, and candles; votive offerings on recovery from illness; holy water; asylums; holydays and seasons, use of calendars, processions, blessings on the fields; sacerdotal vestments, the tonsure, the ring in marriage, turning to the East, images at a later date, perhaps the ecclesiastical chant, and the Kyrie Eleison are all of pagan origin, and sanctified by their adoption into the Church.” — An Essay on The Development of the Christian Doctrine John Henry “Cardinal Newman” p.373.

[link to www.the-ten-commandments.org]


Transmogrification

Transmogrification - The vestiges of pagan religion in Christian symbology are undeniable. Egyptian sun disks became halos of Catholic saints. Pictograms of Isis nursing her miraculously conceived son Horus became the blueprint for the modern images of the Virgin Mary nursing Baby Jesus. Virtually all the elements of the Catholic ritual - the mitre, the altar, the doxology and the communion, the act of "God-eating" - were taken directly from the earlier pagan mystery religions.

Nothing in Christianity is original . The pre christian God Mithras - called her son, the son of God and the light of the world - was born on December 25 died, was buried in a rock tomb, and then resurrected in three days. The date December 25 was also the birthday of Osiris, Adonis and Dionysus. The new born Krishna was presented with god, frankincense, and myrrh. Even Christianity's weekly holy day was stolen from the pagans.

Originally Christianity honoured the Jewish Sabbath on Saturdays but Constantine shifted it to coincide with the pagans veneration day of the Sun. To this day churchgoers attend services on Sunday morning with no idea that they are there on account of the pagan Sun God's weekly tribute - Sunday.

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good image

"First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires."
2 Peter 3:3

"They said to you, "In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires."
Jude 1:18

"Blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked or stand in the way of sinners or sit in the seat of mockers."
Psalm 1:1

"How long will you simple ones love your simple ways? How long will mockers delight in mockery and fools hate knowledge?"
Proverbs 1:22

Jesus is the Lord of the Age of Pisces

He is the Anti-Christ at the turn of the age

into the Age of Aquarius in which the next Lord

will carry water as a sign of Aquarius

you forgot one thing OP, Gods name is YHWH, and in Hebrew the letters mean " Behold the hand, behold the nail" Jesus is the Messiah and is the earthly representation of God himself. The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us.

I didn't forget that Cain is Jesus, he was Gods first son whom he rejected and bred to use. He I the offering or scape goat of the rest.

Read more here

Thread: Bible Secrets ... what the symbolism means

In the beginning God said if you eat of the tree of knowledge you will surely die and the serpent beguiled Eve and said no you will be knowing of good and bad.

Both were telling the truth. The apple = God DNA to become DNA linked to God. Now this has an upside and a down side. The up side is you become smart and the downside is God then has you on his hit list to be harvested.

You could say why would God do this to his own seed? To be harvested is not to be killed. It is a joining, being hung on the symbolic tree / cross. I'll skip that bit for the moment and just show you the sacrificial lamb references.


Cain and Abel


Cain's offering of fruit was rejected, he was the son of God, not Abel he was the first son of God. But God rejected him and cast him out.

Genesis 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

Genesis 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

Genesis 4:3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD.

Genesis 4:4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:


Genesis 4:5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.


Genesis 4:12 When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.

Genesis 4:13 And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear.


Genesis 4:14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.


Genesis 4:15 And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

So we see right from the beginning of the bible an offering is required by the lord. Notice God did not favour his own son but set him up to be a vagabond on the Earth. He favoured the shepherd, he who would aid him in the harvest at the end of the world.
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The bible is designed to brain wash.

It only has the illusion of good about it, all the while the core message is I want you to offer up sacrifices to me, the evil raging God.

Deny me and I will kill you.

Love does not talk like this.

As explained already in this thread, god is simply a race of humanoids who want you to think they are all powerful.

They are not, it's like OZ behind the curtain.
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Here is what God has gotten up to ...


This God, according to the Bible, is directly responsible for many mass-murders, rapes, pillage, plunder, slavery, child abuse and killing, not to mention the killing of unborn children.


It always amazes me how many times this God orders the killing of innocent people even after the Ten Commandments said “Thou shall not kill”. For example, God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21). God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3).


He orders another attack and the killing of “all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses” (Joshua 6). In Judges 21, He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married.


When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife! Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody! In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church! In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered


You can do the math

God's Hit List (those murdered by God directly or by his orders):

The entire population of the earth except for eight survivors (Genesis 7:23).

Every inhabitant of Sodom and Gomorrah except for one family (Genesis 19:24).

Every first born of Egypt (Exodus 12:29).

All the hosts of the Pharaoh, including the captains of 600 chariots (Exodus 14:27,28).

Amalek and his people (Exodus 17:11,16).

3,000 Israelites (Exodus 32:27).

250 Levite princes who had challenged the leadership of Moses (Numbers 16:1-40).

14,700 jewish people in a plague who had rebelled against Moses following the killing of the princes (Numbers 16:41-49).
All the subjects of Og (Numbers 21:34, 35).

24,000 Israelites who lived with Moabite women (Numbers 25:4, 9).

All the males, kings, and non-virgin females of the Midianites. (Numbers 31:7, 8).

The Ammonites (Deuteronomy 2:19-21).

The Horims (Deuteronomy 2:22).

All the citizens of Jericho, except for a prostitute and her family (Joshua 6).

12,000 citizens of Ai. Joshua hung the king on a tree. (Joshua 8:1-30).

All the people of Makkedah (Joshua 10:28).
All the people of Libnah (Joshua 10:29, 30).
All the people of Gezer (Joshua 10:33).
All the people of Lachish (Joshua 10:32).
All the people of Eglon (Joshua 10:34, 35).
All the people of Hebron (Joshua 10:36, 37).
All the inhabitants of the country of the hills, and of the south, and of the vale, and of the springs and all their kings (Joshua 10:40).

All 31 kings and inhabitants of their countries, and the south country, and the land of Goshen, and the valley, and the plain, and the mountain of Israel, and the valley of the same from Mt. Halak to Mt. Hermon (Joshua 11:12, 16, 17, 12:24).


10,000 Moabites (Judges 3:29).
10,000 Perizzites and Canaanites (Judges 1:4).
600 Phillistines (Judges 3:31).
All of Sisera (Judges 4:16).
120,000 Midianites (Judges 8:10).
25,100 Benjaminites (Judges 20:35).
50,070 people of Bethshemesh (I Samuel 6:19).
All the Amalekites (I Samuel 15:3, 7).
The armies and five kings of the Amorites (Amos 3:2).
The Moabites and 22,000 Syrians (II Samuel 8:2, 5, 6, 14).
40,000 Syrian horsemen (II Samuel 10:18).
100,000 Syrian footmen, followed by 27,000 who were crushed by a wall (I Kings 20:28, 29, 30).
42 children eaten by bears (II Kings 2:23, 24).
185,000 Assyrians killed by an angel (II Kings 19:35).
10,000 Edomites, followed by 10,000 more whose killers brought them to the top of the rock, and cast them down from the top of the rock, that they were broken in pieces. (II Chronicles 28).
120,000 Judeans (II Chronicles 28).
75,000 Persians (Esther 9:16).



God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21). God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3).

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Here is every bible reference to Satan ...



Satan is only mentioned 57 times, in the bible


The only slightly evil thing he ever does is give one man some boils! Here is every reference in the bible.



1Chr.21

[1] And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

Job.1

[6] Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
[7] And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
[8] And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
[9] Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
[12] And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.

Job.2

[1] Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.
[2] And the LORD said unto Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
[3] And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause.
[4] And Satan answered the LORD, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life.
[6] And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life.
[7] So went Satan forth from the presence of the LORD, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown.

Pss.109

[6] Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand.

Zech.3

[1] And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him.
[2] And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?

Sir.21

[27] When the ungodly curseth Satan, he curseth his own soul.

Matt.4

[10] Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Matt.12

[26] And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

Matt.16

[23] But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Mark.1

[13] And he was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of Satan; and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered unto him.

Mark.3

[23] And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?
[26] And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end.

Mark.4

[15] And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

Mark.8

[33] But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men.

Luke.4

[8] And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Luke.10

[18] And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Luke.11

[18] If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? because ye say that I cast out devils through Beelzebub.

Luke.13

[16] And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day?

Luke.22

[3] Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve.
[31] And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:

John.13

[27] And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly.

Acts.5

[3] But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?

Acts.26

[18] To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

Rom.16

[20] And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.

1Cor.5

[5] To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

1Cor.7

[5] Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

2Cor.2

[11] Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.

2Cor.11

[14] And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

2Cor.12

[7] And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.

1Thes.2

[18] Wherefore we would have come unto you, even I Paul, once and again; but Satan hindered us.

2Thes.2

[9] Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

1Tim.1

[20] Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.

1Tim.5

[15] For some are already turned aside after Satan.

Rev.2

[9] I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are jewish people, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
[13] I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.
[24] But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.

Rev.3

[9] Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are jewish people, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Rev.12

[9] And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Rev.20

[2] And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
[7] And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

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I do..NOTHING we have been told!!

Wow, how do you know these things?
The harvest is ripe....

Yes, I know... I live in Oz..

If you are interested, here are a few more key word searches for your continued study...


abaddon
accuser of the brethren
adversary
apollyon
beelzebub
belial
devil
dragon
enemy
father of lies
god of this world
king of babylon
king of tyrus
little horn
lucifer
man of sin
old serpent
power of darkness
prince of thie world
serpent
son of perdition
tempter
wicked one


God Bless OP.

peace,

In the end the harvest will come and one will be separatd from the other.. There are those who worship the son and those who worship the Father..



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The harvest is ripe.

More good info here

Thread: The TRUTH about SATAN and LUCIFER

Often overlooked:

The "mouth" of the beast...

Revelation 13:5

 5And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.



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This is what is over looked


The bible, especially the Christian section of the bible is a watered down version of the truth.

Jesus says he did not tell you the truth because you could not COPE with the truth.

1 Corinthians 3:2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.

Standard Christian doctrine ... it is NOT the truth.

Jesus admits to giving a false account of himself.

John 5:3I If I bear witness about myself, my witness is false.

The truth is hidden.

1 Corinthians 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:

Jesus revealed the truth to his disciples but he admits that he did not tell the truth to his followers. If when he was apparently here on Earth, he didn't tell his followers the truth, why do Christians assume they are getting it now?

Mark 4:10 And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable.

Mark 4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

Revelation 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.


The bible is telling you ... important information has deliberately been hidden, the truth concealed.

This truth will not be known until,
Revelation 5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.


God himself even admits to hiding secrets from mankind ...


Proverbs 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.


God even admits to doing evil and as much as says, it is not Satan that does evil but rather himself.


Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.


The SHADOWS come from the LIGHT.

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