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AMAZING GRACE!!!

 
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Excuse me, your eminence, where are you coming up with this assumption that because we accept God's grace that we are still immersed in sin.

We have ALL fallen short.
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That is the idea one would get from reading some of things certain Christians post here . Do you keep the Torah ? If not , then you too are immersed in sin !
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what are you trying to do? ac.. you mad?.. there is so much going on and here you are.. speaking against grace.. you do not believe in grace.. what do you have for Us?.. thats amazing.. that i can Hope for?..
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Righteousness and holiness . And I never said that I don't believe in grace , I am simply pointing out that grace does not equal a license to sin , a license to transgress the Law . I am telling you what the Word says . Am I wrong for doing so ?
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then i ask you.. did the people who walked away from the sermon on the mount.. need grace? or they got it right?.. did they go home and read what you said?
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That is the idea one would get from reading some of things certain Christians post here . Do you keep the Torah ? If not , then you too are immersed in sin !
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what are you trying to do? ac.. you mad?.. there is so much going on and here you are.. speaking against grace.. you do not believe in grace.. what do you have for Us?.. thats amazing.. that i can Hope for?..
 Quoting: st. deralict


Righteousness and holiness . And I never said that I don't believe in grace , I am simply pointing out that grace does not equal a license to sin , a license to transgress the Law . I am telling you what the Word says . Am I wrong for doing so ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12498640
then i ask you.. did the people who walked away from the sermon on the mount.. need grace? or they got it right?.. did they go home and read what you said?
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No because they already had faith which saves too .
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Excuse me, your eminence, where are you coming up with this assumption that because we accept God's grace that we are still immersed in sin.

We have ALL fallen short.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1130234


That is the idea one would get from reading some of things certain Christians post here . Do you keep the Torah ? If not , then you too are immersed in sin !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12498640


Col 2:13-17
And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the SABBATH days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


putin Do you read anything I say ?
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Whats a matter- you gotta headache?

I read everything you wrote. You wanna take Pauls books (letters) out of the Bible. What about Luke, wasn't he Pauls righthand man? Do you wanna take out one of the Four Gospels too?
DUST TO GLORY!!!
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what are you trying to do? ac.. you mad?.. there is so much going on and here you are.. speaking against grace.. you do not believe in grace.. what do you have for Us?.. thats amazing.. that i can Hope for?..
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Righteousness and holiness . And I never said that I don't believe in grace , I am simply pointing out that grace does not equal a license to sin , a license to transgress the Law . I am telling you what the Word says . Am I wrong for doing so ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12498640
then i ask you.. did the people who walked away from the sermon on the mount.. need grace? or they got it right?.. did they go home and read what you said?
 Quoting: st. deralict


No because they already had faith which saves too .
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And they all kept the Torah too .
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what are you trying to do? ac.. you mad?.. there is so much going on and here you are.. speaking against grace.. you do not believe in grace.. what do you have for Us?.. thats amazing.. that i can Hope for?..
 Quoting: st. deralict


Righteousness and holiness . And I never said that I don't believe in grace , I am simply pointing out that grace does not equal a license to sin , a license to transgress the Law . I am telling you what the Word says . Am I wrong for doing so ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12498640
then i ask you.. did the people who walked away from the sermon on the mount.. need grace? or they got it right?.. did they go home and read what you said?
 Quoting: st. deralict


No because they already had faith which saves too .
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stop now.. hang on to your faith.. and learn about grace.. its important.. its everything.. do you see?
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Righteousness and holiness . And I never said that I don't believe in grace , I am simply pointing out that grace does not equal a license to sin , a license to transgress the Law . I am telling you what the Word says . Am I wrong for doing so ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12498640
then i ask you.. did the people who walked away from the sermon on the mount.. need grace? or they got it right?.. did they go home and read what you said?
 Quoting: st. deralict


No because they already had faith which saves too .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12498640


And they all kept the Torah too .
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How do you know that?
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That is the idea one would get from reading some of things certain Christians post here . Do you keep the Torah ? If not , then you too are immersed in sin !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12498640


Col 2:13-17
And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the SABBATH days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


putin Do you read anything I say ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12498640



Whats a matter- you gotta headache?

I read everything you wrote. You wanna take Pauls books (letters) out of the Bible. What about Luke, wasn't he Pauls righthand man? Do you wanna take out one of the Four Gospels too?
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Any book that takes away from the former Prophets is not inspired . Acts was anti-Law with Peter's supposed vision that told him to break the Law , therefore it should be rejected . All the Gospels are legit .
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then i ask you.. did the people who walked away from the sermon on the mount.. need grace? or they got it right?.. did they go home and read what you said?
 Quoting: st. deralict


No because they already had faith which saves too .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12498640


And they all kept the Torah too .
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How do you know that?
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


They had to back then because the judgements were still in effect and we see stories of them keeping the feasts of God and Sabbaths .
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No because they already had faith which saves too .
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And they all kept the Torah too .
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How do you know that?
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They had to back then because the judgements were still in effect and we see stories of them keeping the feasts of God and Sabbaths .
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what do you keep ac?.. is it enough?.. or do you need grace?..
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No because they already had faith which saves too .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12498640


And they all kept the Torah too .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12498640


How do you know that?
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


They had to back then because the judgements were still in effect and we see stories of them keeping the feasts of God and Sabbaths .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12498640
what do you keep ac?.. is it enough?.. or do you need grace?..
st. deralict
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because Jesus said,

Why do you call me Lord Lord and do not obey?

Luke 6: 46

My family, my mother, my sister my brother are they who
obey and do the will of my Father.

Mt. 12:50

The will of my Father is written in the book-
follow Him.

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Pick up your cross and follow Him. It will cost you everything.
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And they all kept the Torah too .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12498640


How do you know that?
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


They had to back then because the judgements were still in effect and we see stories of them keeping the feasts of God and Sabbaths .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12498640
what do you keep ac?.. is it enough?.. or do you need grace?..
 Quoting: st. deralict


I try my best to keep the Law of Moses , I fail everyday but I give it my best . We at least have to try . And yes I need grace .
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How do you know that?
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They had to back then because the judgements were still in effect and we see stories of them keeping the feasts of God and Sabbaths .
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what do you keep ac?.. is it enough?.. or do you need grace?..
 Quoting: st. deralict


I try my best to keep the Law of Moses , I fail everyday but I give it my best . We at least have to try . And yes I need grace .
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thank you ac.. yes We do need grace.. never forget that..
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They had to back then because the judgements were still in effect and we see stories of them keeping the feasts of God and Sabbaths .
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what do you keep ac?.. is it enough?.. or do you need grace?..
 Quoting: st. deralict


I try my best to keep the Law of Moses , I fail everyday but I give it my best . We at least have to try . And yes I need grace .
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thank you ac.. yes We do need grace.. never forget that..
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hf
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what do you keep ac?.. is it enough?.. or do you need grace?..
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I try my best to keep the Law of Moses , I fail everyday but I give it my best . We at least have to try . And yes I need grace .
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thank you ac.. yes We do need grace.. never forget that..
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hf
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hfhfgrouphug
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DUST TO GLORY!!!
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DUST TO GLORY!!!
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Look TW someone is talking about you.
Did you see that thraed?


Re: WEST & EAST coast TSUNAMI will HIT sometime in APRIL!


Tell TW. Tell everybody- Grace is not a licence to sin.

Titus 2: 11 -12

For the grace of God, that brings salvation, (through Jesus)
hath appeared to all man, teaching us...
to just say no to bad things like porno...
like lieing to our kids about SantaClauz and Christmas...
just say no to pagan rituals...

New International Version (©1984)
It teaches us to say "No" to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age,

New Living Translation (©2007)
And we are instructed to turn from godless living and sinful pleasures. We should live in this evil world with wisdom, righteousness, and devotion to God,

English Standard Version (©2001)
training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age,
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I was reading about Sovereign Grace today and this was the note I wrote:

As we see Him--the Lamb of Calvary--reoccupying that throne of universal dominion, we see "grace" becoming sovereign.

:lims:
However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task
the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24

"This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7

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I was reading about Sovereign Grace today and this was the note I wrote:

As we see Him--the Lamb of Calvary--reoccupying that throne of universal dominion, we see "grace" becoming sovereign.

:lims:
 Quoting: KoFFee_


Oh yes!!
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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I was reading about Sovereign Grace today and this was the note I wrote:

As we see Him--the Lamb of Calvary--reoccupying that throne of universal dominion, we see "grace" becoming sovereign.

:lims:
 Quoting: KoFFee_


Oh yes!!
 Quoting: Life and Love


Jesus is on that throne--final issues are certified!
However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task
the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24

"This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7

I do not own the rights to any video posted, they are for educational/entertainment purposes only.
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I was reading about Sovereign Grace today and this was the note I wrote:

As we see Him--the Lamb of Calvary--reoccupying that throne of universal dominion, we see "grace" becoming sovereign.

:lims:
 Quoting: KoFFee_


Oh yes!!
 Quoting: Life and Love


Jesus is on that throne--final issues are certified!
 Quoting: KoFFee_


I like that word "certified!" We have advance notice of the verdict we will receive when we stand before Him: "In the right - righteous!"

Something I heard yesterday, "Grace is when we get what we don't deserve; mercy is when we don't get what we do deserve."
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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Does grace equal a license to sin ?

"For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins." Hebrews 10:26.

Do any of you even repent ?
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We are saved by grace- read your Bible!

I didn't say that we should go on sinning. If we are truly IN CHRIST, we don't go on sinning willfully.

When we sin, should we repent of that sin? Of course!

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to FORGIVE US our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.


How many more words do you wanna put in my mouth that I didn't say?
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


YES!!!

Love never fails, and Gods love is the greatest of all.

After you have trusted Jesus for your salvation, never lose FAITH in what JESUS did for you.

Faith and trust...that of a little child is what is EXPECTED from you, that is your only part in your salvation.

Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

What kind of Works toward salvation have you or I have to offer? Lets let God answer.

None!

We are sinners so we are guilty of all.

Works are required to fufill the command to love one another, not for salvation.


But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. James 2:10

But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousness's are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
Isaiah 64:6

For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. 1 Co 1:18

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And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Beware therefore, lest that come upon you, which is spoken of in the prophets;


Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you.
Act 13:39-41

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And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. Joh 10:28

That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
John 3:15
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And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 2 Th 2:10-12

God is not a respector of persons, He judges the heart.

Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
Rom 9:32

For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:

Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
Rom 4:14-16
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And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
Hebrews 9:12-15

Our works gain rewards at judgement. Salvation comes only from our Saviour.


For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. Mat 16:27

And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Rev 22:12-13
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

"...the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin." I John 1:7

"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 6:23

And this is the record, that God hath given
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I was reading about Sovereign Grace today and this was the note I wrote:

As we see Him--the Lamb of Calvary--reoccupying that throne of universal dominion, we see "grace" becoming sovereign.

:lims:
 Quoting: KoFFee_


Oh yes!!
 Quoting: Life and Love


Jesus is on that throne--final issues are certified!
 Quoting: KoFFee_


I like that word "certified!" We have advance notice of the verdict we will receive when we stand before Him: "In the right - righteous!"

Something I heard yesterday, "Grace is when we get what we don't deserve; mercy is when we don't get what we do deserve."
 Quoting: Life and Love


So, in other words, Mercy is not getting what we deserve and Grace is getting what we don't deserve. tounge
However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task
the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24

"This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7

I do not own the rights to any video posted, they are for educational/entertainment purposes only.

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