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A new plan from the British government will use closed-circuit television (CCTV) cameras at gas stations that will automatically prevent uninsured drivers from filling up their gas tanks—that is, until their vehicle information has been logged in the system.

"The key to this is simplicity. Connecting the existing technology ... is relatively inexpensive and wouldn't be a big information technology program" Ernst & Young partner Graeme Swan told the Telegraph. "There shouldn't be concerns about 'big brother' because there is no new database, no vehicles are tracked and no record is kept. It's simply a new rule of no insurance equals no fuel."

Im sure there not tracked or annyyything...wow
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A new plan from the British government will use closed-circuit television (CCTV) cameras at gas stations that will automatically prevent uninsured drivers from filling up their gas tanks—that is, until their vehicle information has been logged in the system.

"The key to this is simplicity. Connecting the existing technology ... is relatively inexpensive and wouldn't be a big information technology program" Ernst & Young partner Graeme Swan told the Telegraph. "There shouldn't be concerns about 'big brother' because there is no new database, no vehicles are tracked and no record is kept. It's simply a new rule of no insurance equals no fuel."

Im sure there not tracked or annyyything...wow
 Quoting: Ballin' on Welfare


Very simple get around..

Criminals are using this technique to evade Police interest from the APNR (Automatic Number Plate Recognition) system used across the UK...

Use "cloned" license/number plates, from a car that is identical (colour, year, make, model) and is fully insured.

Cloned plates are a major problem for the cops but a simplistic get around for criminals.

Where there's a will, there's a way.
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the cops use ANPR (automatic number plate register), and that INSTANTLY warns them of no insurance/tax cars.

look like that's the system they'll be using.

the story is right. there is no new database, they'll just be using what is there already.

you missed the best bit though..

''And the inconvenience works both ways: Insured drivers will have to wait for their information to be verified before they are allowed to fuel up too. Which leads us to wonder, just how much of a deterrent to driving without insurance will this new system be?''

(starting a paragraph with And? what sort of morans do these news sites employ, exactly?)
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It's quite simple As a gas station owner all they have to do is say NO if they force you close down all of em that will fixem. Just shut them all down for a week.

Since when is the Gov in the insurance biz.
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It's quite simple As a gas station owner all they have to do is say NO if they force you close down all of em that will fixem. Just shut them all down for a week.

Since when is the Gov in the insurance biz.
 Quoting: northerntomcat


are you for real?
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the cops use ANPR (automatic number plate register), and that INSTANTLY warns them of no insurance/tax cars.

look like that's the system they'll be using.

the story is right. there is no new database, they'll just be using what is there already.

you missed the best bit though..

''And the inconvenience works both ways: Insured drivers will have to wait for their information to be verified before they are allowed to fuel up too. Which leads us to wonder, just how much of a deterrent to driving without insurance will this new system be?''

(starting a paragraph with And? what sort of morans do these news sites employ, exactly?)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12387065


Mate, it's spelt MORON not MORAN...

Anyway, just buy a set of cloned plates for £20,

Job done...
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A new plan from the British government will use closed-circuit television (CCTV) cameras at gas stations that will automatically prevent uninsured drivers from filling up their gas tanks—that is, until their vehicle information has been logged in the system.

"The key to this is simplicity. Connecting the existing technology ... is relatively inexpensive and wouldn't be a big information technology program" Ernst & Young partner Graeme Swan told the Telegraph. "There shouldn't be concerns about 'big brother' because there is no new database, no vehicles are tracked and no record is kept. It's simply a new rule of no insurance equals no fuel."

Im sure there not tracked or annyyything...wow
 Quoting: Ballin' on Welfare


you know what i support it , the amount of uninshured drivers and uninshured immigrants on the road is shocking in the uk ..

mind you they will just get there mates to get it and sifone it .. its just one more way of squeezing the genuine people ..cos the criminals will walk it
There is 18 level's of hell which one you going to ....
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It's quite simple As a gas station owner all they have to do is say NO if they force you close down all of em that will fixem. Just shut them all down for a week.

Since when is the Gov in the insurance biz.
 Quoting: northerntomcat


are you for real?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12387065


Not exactly, he's from Canada.....
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Re: Cameras at U.K. gas stations will block uninsured drivers from refueling
the cops use ANPR (automatic number plate register), and that INSTANTLY warns them of no insurance/tax cars.

look like that's the system they'll be using.

the story is right. there is no new database, they'll just be using what is there already.

you missed the best bit though..

''And the inconvenience works both ways: Insured drivers will have to wait for their information to be verified before they are allowed to fuel up too. Which leads us to wonder, just how much of a deterrent to driving without insurance will this new system be?''

(starting a paragraph with And? what sort of morans do these news sites employ, exactly?)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12387065


Mate, it's spelt MORON not MORAN...

Anyway, just buy a set of cloned plates for £20,

Job done...
 Quoting: Missile Offensive 12507319


Newbie?
Married, kids, etc.
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A new plan from the British government will use closed-circuit television (CCTV) cameras at gas stations that will automatically prevent uninsured drivers from filling up their gas tanks—that is, until their vehicle information has been logged in the system.

"The key to this is simplicity. Connecting the existing technology ... is relatively inexpensive and wouldn't be a big information technology program" Ernst & Young partner Graeme Swan told the Telegraph. "There shouldn't be concerns about 'big brother' because there is no new database, no vehicles are tracked and no record is kept. It's simply a new rule of no insurance equals no fuel."

Im sure there not tracked or annyyything...wow
 Quoting: Ballin' on Welfare


you know what i support it , the amount of uninshured drivers and uninshured immigrants on the road is shocking in the uk ..

mind you they will just get there mates to get it and sifone it .. its just one more way of squeezing the genuine people ..cos the criminals will walk it
 Quoting: the truth bringer


The answer, cloned number plates....
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Re: Cameras at U.K. gas stations will block uninsured drivers from refueling
the cops use ANPR (automatic number plate register), and that INSTANTLY warns them of no insurance/tax cars.

look like that's the system they'll be using.

the story is right. there is no new database, they'll just be using what is there already.

you missed the best bit though..

''And the inconvenience works both ways: Insured drivers will have to wait for their information to be verified before they are allowed to fuel up too. Which leads us to wonder, just how much of a deterrent to driving without insurance will this new system be?''

(starting a paragraph with And? what sort of morans do these news sites employ, exactly?)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12387065


Mate, it's spelt MORON not MORAN...

Anyway, just buy a set of cloned plates for £20,

Job done...
 Quoting: Missile Offensive 12507319


Newbie?
 Quoting: snarky74


I dunno, are you..??
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Re: Cameras at U.K. gas stations will block uninsured drivers from refueling
It's quite simple As a gas station owner all they have to do is say NO if they force you close down all of em that will fixem. Just shut them all down for a week.

Since when is the Gov in the insurance biz.
 Quoting: northerntomcat


are you for real?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12387065


Do you guys pay the Gov for insurance,or to a private company?
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It's quite simple As a gas station owner all they have to do is say NO if they force you close down all of em that will fixem. Just shut them all down for a week.

Since when is the Gov in the insurance biz.
 Quoting: northerntomcat


It's against the law to have no insurance for cars here. I expect they'll include road tax and MOT's in this too.
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A new plan from the British government will use closed-circuit television (CCTV) cameras at gas stations that will automatically prevent uninsured drivers from filling up their gas tanks—that is, until their vehicle information has been logged in the system.

"The key to this is simplicity. Connecting the existing technology ... is relatively inexpensive and wouldn't be a big information technology program" Ernst & Young partner Graeme Swan told the Telegraph. "There shouldn't be concerns about 'big brother' because there is no new database, no vehicles are tracked and no record is kept. It's simply a new rule of no insurance equals no fuel."

Im sure there not tracked or annyyything...wow
 Quoting: Ballin' on Welfare


Very simple get around..

Criminals are using this technique to evade Police interest from the APNR (Automatic Number Plate Recognition) system used across the UK...

Use "cloned" license/number plates, from a car that is identical (colour, year, make, model) and is fully insured.

Cloned plates are a major problem for the cops but a simplistic get around for criminals.

Where there's a will, there's a way.
 Quoting: Missile Offensive 12507319

That's why it's suspicious they even waste time on it.
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We pay a third party insurance company. Theres many many people driving in this country with no insurance. Any foreign plates would not work using this system either.
Yes expect more people to be using cloned plates. Insurance costs in the u.k are driving(no pun intended) more and more people into breaking the law. Too many lawyers making money of the back of small insurance personel injury claims.
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It's quite simple As a gas station owner all they have to do is say NO if they force you close down all of em that will fixem. Just shut them all down for a week.

Since when is the Gov in the insurance biz.
 Quoting: northerntomcat


It's against the law to have no insurance for cars here. I expect they'll include road tax and MOT's in this too.
 Quoting: alexisj9


Yup same here but the Gov is not in charge of collecting money for insurance companies,and most certainly not putting camera's in at petrol stations to catch them.

I remember the London cops saying the camera's were put in to help lower the crime rates,now they seem to be a revenue collecting system for private insurance companies.
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What's to stop an uninsured driver from stopping a block away and getting his gas in Jerry cans?
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What's to stop an uninsured driver from stopping a block away and getting his gas in Jerry cans?
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They'll only allow 1 can and you wll have to pay for it up front before they turn the pump onand they'll set the amoun to dispense, you want more, you'll have to bring them in a vehicle
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What's to stop an uninsured driver from stopping a block away and getting his gas in Jerry cans?
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They'll only allow 1 can and you wll have to pay for it up front before they turn the pump onand they'll set the amoun to dispense, you want more, you'll have to bring them in a vehicle
 Quoting: F F S


OK then make it a family outing...everyone gets a can LOL.
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BS. They are scanning plates to identify where you buy gas, where you buy groceries, what bar you stop at and who's house you have visited. It is Google to the extreme. Try that cloning shit and see what it gets you, picking up two or more plate numbers at the same time in different locations is a cinch and easily identifies the clones. Besides, if you get pulled over or in an accident, your busted and improper tag is serious charge.
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We need a massive revolution to stop this shit! (Reset button)

Next they'll make us fill out forms to take a shit...
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BS. They are scanning plates to identify where you buy gas, where you buy groceries, what bar you stop at and who's house you have visited. It is Google to the extreme. Try that cloning shit and see what it gets you, picking up two or more plate numbers at the same time in different locations is a cinch and easily identifies the clones. Besides, if you get pulled over or in an accident, your busted and improper tag is serious charge.
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Scary stuff..
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A new plan from the British government will use closed-circuit television (CCTV) cameras at gas stations that will automatically prevent uninsured drivers from filling up their gas tanks—that is, until their vehicle information has been logged in the system.

"The key to this is simplicity. Connecting the existing technology ... is relatively inexpensive and wouldn't be a big information technology program" Ernst & Young partner Graeme Swan told the Telegraph. "There shouldn't be concerns about 'big brother' because there is no new database, no vehicles are tracked and no record is kept. It's simply a new rule of no insurance equals no fuel."

Im sure there not tracked or annyyything...wow
 Quoting: Ballin' on Welfare



Then it says: " The Mirror notes that uninsured drivers will still be able to fuel up, but only after the camera has captured and logged their license plate numbers."

Sounds like a database to me.
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We need a massive revolution to stop this shit! (Reset button)

Next they'll make us fill out forms to take a shit...
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No you will be allowed to shit all you want, but before you are allowed to flush, you must allow a sensor pack to fully analyze you...
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A new plan from the British government will use closed-circuit television (CCTV) cameras at gas stations that will automatically prevent uninsured drivers from filling up their gas tanks—that is, until their vehicle information has been logged in the system.

"The key to this is simplicity. Connecting the existing technology ... is relatively inexpensive and wouldn't be a big information technology program" Ernst & Young partner Graeme Swan told the Telegraph. "There shouldn't be concerns about 'big brother' because there is no new database, no vehicles are tracked and no record is kept. It's simply a new rule of no insurance equals no fuel."

Im sure there not tracked or annyyything...wow
 Quoting: Ballin' on Welfare



Then it says: " The Mirror notes that uninsured drivers will still be able to fuel up, but only after the camera has captured and logged their license plate numbers."

Sounds like a database to me.
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Yea i know, how can they say its not a database..so stupid.
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why do the Brits put up with this crap?
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why do the Brits put up with this crap?
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Soon we will have it as well, there always the test subjects first it seems.
LIVE YOUR LIFE
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why do the Brits put up with this crap?
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Soon we will have it as well, there always the test subjects first it seems.
 Quoting: Ballin' on Welfare


Yep. Its why they are considered the Financial and Judicial arm of the new Empire.
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why do the Brits put up with this crap?
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Why do you put up with the TSA ?
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why do the Brits put up with this crap?
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Why do you put up with the TSA ?
 Quoting: F F S


Well played.