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I bought a 2lb roast a Kroger last night. It was really red when I bought it, but I wasn't able to go too a different store. I refuse to buy their ground meat. So I buy the roasts and grind it myself. Anyways, it was unnaturally red. Even as I was grinding it, it was getting redder. I called their meat department and spoke with the manager. He told me "when it is exposed to oxygen it gets brighter and redder." To which I replied, I am a chef sir, I know that is completely false. When meat is exposed to oxygen it should get darker and browner. He tried to argue back, but I shut him down. I then asked what chemical they spray on it to get it that color. He said they do nothing, that their suppliers may, but he does not know.
The only problem I have with this is, that I once bought 2lbs of ground beef from them, I went home and cut it in half. I was going to store half and use half. When I cut it, the entire center was very brown and smelled off, but the outside was as bright as a fresh ground meat. I have since refused to buy ground from them ever again. My question is, does anyone know what they are spraying on their meat? They keep their meat department in the back so no one can see.
Has anyone else had this problem? And, are they doing this at store level or is it suppliers?
Thanks.
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I shop at Kroger, have for over 20 years, and never had a problem...they are more expensive than Wal-Mart, but I wouldn't even buy a wooden pencil from Wal-Mart...
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I shop at Kroger, have for over 20 years, and never had a problem...they are more expensive than Wal-Mart, but I wouldn't even buy a wooden pencil from Wal-Mart...
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Obviously Wal-mart is garbage. I have not shopped at Walmart in years no. I will never shop their again. Krogers is more expensive, but you seem to pay more for chemical laced food. If you don't know what to look for, it can be hard to find. Their meat should not be that red. No meat should.
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It's some sort of die, and I forget the name of it. It's also used in pork. What I do remember is that it takes out the oxygen from your own cells.

I am sorry I don't remember right now. It's information from a book I read on canning your own meats and why.

I wish I could tell you more but this is a start, hope it helps.
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I bought a 2lb roast a Kroger last night. It was really red when I bought it, but I wasn't able to go too a different store. I refuse to buy their ground meat. So I buy the roasts and grind it myself. Anyways, it was unnaturally red. Even as I was grinding it, it was getting redder. I called their meat department and spoke with the manager. He told me "when it is exposed to oxygen it gets brighter and redder." To which I replied, I am a chef sir, I know that is completely false. When meat is exposed to oxygen it should get darker and browner. He tried to argue back, but I shut him down. I then asked what chemical they spray on it to get it that color. He said they do nothing, that their suppliers may, but he does not know.
The only problem I have with this is, that I once bought 2lbs of ground beef from them, I went home and cut it in half. I was going to store half and use half. When I cut it, the entire center was very brown and smelled off, but the outside was as bright as a fresh ground meat. I have since refused to buy ground from them ever again. My question is, does anyone know what they are spraying on their meat? They keep their meat department in the back so no one can see.
Has anyone else had this problem? And, are they doing this at store level or is it suppliers?
Thanks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7096971


Carbon-Monoxide-Treated Meat

They use a variety of things to keep the meat looking "good"...from red dye's to spraying blood over it to using carbon-monoxide to treat the meats.

I wish i could find the website that had all sorts of info about this and other foods but i cant remember the url.

Here is one article i read a while back [link to www.washingtonpost.com] that i sent to my parents house via email

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Meat glue! Don't think this doesn't go on everywhere.

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Meat, it's What's For Cancer.

There's more protein in a can of beans than a cut of animal
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You're a chef but buy Kroger brand meat? Are you a chef at Golden Coral?
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I bought a 2lb roast a Kroger last night. It was really red when I bought it, but I wasn't able to go too a different store. I refuse to buy their ground meat. So I buy the roasts and grind it myself. Anyways, it was unnaturally red. Even as I was grinding it, it was getting redder. I called their meat department and spoke with the manager. He told me "when it is exposed to oxygen it gets brighter and redder." To which I replied, I am a chef sir, I know that is completely false. When meat is exposed to oxygen it should get darker and browner. He tried to argue back, but I shut him down. I then asked what chemical they spray on it to get it that color. He said they do nothing, that their suppliers may, but he does not know.
The only problem I have with this is, that I once bought 2lbs of ground beef from them, I went home and cut it in half. I was going to store half and use half. When I cut it, the entire center was very brown and smelled off, but the outside was as bright as a fresh ground meat. I have since refused to buy ground from them ever again. My question is, does anyone know what they are spraying on their meat? They keep their meat department in the back so no one can see.
Has anyone else had this problem? And, are they doing this at store level or is it suppliers?
Thanks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7096971


Carbon-Monoxide-Treated Meat

They use a variety of things to keep the meat looking "good"...from red dye's to spraying blood over it to using carbon-monoxide to treat the meats.

I wish i could find the website that had all sorts of info about this and other foods but i cant remember the url.

Here is one article i read a while back [link to www.washingtonpost.com] that i sent to my parents house via email
 Quoting: Cat Mouth


I looked on the usda website and they stated that the Myoglobin is what causes the color change. And when it is exposed to oxygen it gets pinker, but I then looked up Myoglobin and found that through artificial carbon monoxide processes this meat can stay pink for up to a year. So even on the usda website they are trying to deceive people into thinking this is normal.
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You're a chef but buy Kroger brand meat? Are you a chef at Golden Coral?
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Nice. I am buying the meat for me and my family number one. If I had the money I would buy grass fed calls from local farms, but I don't. Yes, some of us have to buy from local grocery stores. I have actually started hunting, and will now get my meat from deer, turkey, duck, morning dove and rabbit that I hunt myself. Where do you buy your meat? I have kids, rent and multiple bills to pay. I grow all my own vegetables and herbs. I can and store them for use during the winter and don't buy any from the grocery. But, from time to time I do buy beef from the grocery because I run out before I can go hunt.
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Find a non-chain market that sells meat. Get a pack from major chains and compare it to the non-chain meat. I've found that in most instances there's a difference right off... when you open a pack of local non-chain meat, there's a healthy meat smell, no dark purple diseased meat hiding in the middle of ground chuck, the color uniform and not pieced together or glued to sell. From a chain store, the first impression is raw ammonia that dissipates quickly, bad spots on the meat, hidden until you open it, weird shit in the middle of ground meat I wouldn't feed my dogs. If you have a local market that's under the "food club" chain, the meat will most likely be a local source. Drive around til you find one, help a struggling independent owner out, eat a decent steak and don't feed the chains that bind us with their pretty poison :)
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Manipulating food with very active chemicals has gotten big in the past decade. The USDA & FDA require labelling of just about none of it.

I don't eat meat fom stores like Kroger anymore.
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I'm contemplating full on vegan at this point with all the disturbing shit in the news...

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the "brown" in the middle is nothing new.... its called "older" meat and they are getting rid of "inventory". no offense but all grocery stores have been guilty of this for the last 40 something yrs, i remember noticing this as a kid.

that you claim to be a chef and this is the first time you noticed it makes me wonder what your game really is. seems to be a concerted effort recently in the media to demonized red meat. red meat is great for a person's neurotransmitters.... it acts to 'satiate' the mind.
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I bought a 2lb roast a Kroger last night. It was really red when I bought it, but I wasn't able to go too a different store. I refuse to buy their ground meat. So I buy the roasts and grind it myself. Anyways, it was unnaturally red. Even as I was grinding it, it was getting redder. I called their meat department and spoke with the manager. He told me "when it is exposed to oxygen it gets brighter and redder." To which I replied, I am a chef sir, I know that is completely false. When meat is exposed to oxygen it should get darker and browner. He tried to argue back, but I shut him down. I then asked what chemical they spray on it to get it that color. He said they do nothing, that their suppliers may, but he does not know.
The only problem I have with this is, that I once bought 2lbs of ground beef from them, I went home and cut it in half. I was going to store half and use half. When I cut it, the entire center was very brown and smelled off, but the outside was as bright as a fresh ground meat. I have since refused to buy ground from them ever again. My question is, does anyone know what they are spraying on their meat? They keep their meat department in the back so no one can see.
Has anyone else had this problem? And, are they doing this at store level or is it suppliers?
Thanks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7096971


Carbon-Monoxide-Treated Meat

They use a variety of things to keep the meat looking "good"...from red dye's to spraying blood over it to using carbon-monoxide to treat the meats.

I wish i could find the website that had all sorts of info about this and other foods but i cant remember the url.

Here is one article i read a while back [link to www.washingtonpost.com] that i sent to my parents house via email
 Quoting: Cat Mouth


I looked on the usda website and they stated that the Myoglobin is what causes the color change. And when it is exposed to oxygen it gets pinker, but I then looked up Myoglobin and found that through artificial carbon monoxide processes this meat can stay pink for up to a year. So even on the usda website they are trying to deceive people into thinking this is normal.
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Yeah the usda is in on the entire thing any ways.

Here is a 1 hour documentary called Food, Inc. Its really good and talks about this very thing your asking along with all sorts of other deceptive practices that go on with the food industry.

check it out if you have not seen it..its really good

Food, Inc Documentary
[link to worldstudycenter.net]
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the "brown" in the middle is nothing new.... its called "older" meat and they are getting rid of "inventory". no offense but all grocery stores have been guilty of this for the last 40 something yrs, i remember noticing this as a kid.

that you claim to be a chef and this is the first time you noticed it makes me wonder what your game really is. seems to be a concerted effort recently in the media to demonized red meat. red meat is great for a person's neurotransmitters.... it acts to 'satiate' the mind.
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Okay crazy. I love red meat, all of it. I will not stop eating something just because of this. Also, really? I may be a chef, that does not mean I know everything, no chef does. I have never paid much mind to the meats I was using other than to make sure they were fresh. It is only recently that I have been starting to inspect every detail of the meat I buy. So relax. We are not all perfect.
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I stopped buying Kroger meat a long time ago. It is often too old and is not "CHOICE" grade. I drive extra miles to a country market where they still have quality and will grind the meat for free! Better prices for much better meat, and service, too. I can't believe more people haven't wised up.........
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dont forget about the meat glue!
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the "brown" in the middle is nothing new.... its called "older" meat and they are getting rid of "inventory". no offense but all grocery stores have been guilty of this for the last 40 something yrs, i remember noticing this as a kid.

that you claim to be a chef and this is the first time you noticed it makes me wonder what your game really is. seems to be a concerted effort recently in the media to demonized red meat. red meat is great for a person's neurotransmitters.... it acts to 'satiate' the mind.
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Okay crazy. I love red meat, all of it. I will not stop eating something just because of this. Also, really? I may be a chef, that does not mean I know everything, no chef does. I have never paid much mind to the meats I was using other than to make sure they were fresh. It is only recently that I have been starting to inspect every detail of the meat I buy. So relax. We are not all perfect.
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It's so hard to know these days OP. I live an a small town with 2 stores. I don't buy steak often, but the times I have, our Stater Bros. market sells a prepackaged, delicious looking steak. I got home to find it was green on the other side. I drove all the way back and told the guy I want another one. He told me the lights make it that way. I say but it was on the flip side? Ya....he said, the lights do that. Then he said and just because it's green doesn't mean it tastes bad. I held the steak up and said I wanted both sides to match. This has happened several times so I no longer buy meat there. I have complained to mgt. and they stop it for awhile...then it's back to biz as usual. Buyer beware these days.....
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if you eat red meat today, your killing yourself.

they dont even have to say how much steroids and any other shit they give to beef cattle anymore.

SERIOUSLY IF YOU EAT RED MEAT IN THE USA YOUR A FUCKING RETARD AND DESERVE ANY NEGATIVE HEALTH PROBLEM THAT COME YOUR WAY!

already admitted to be the cause of 1/10 deaths and if they ADMIT that much, of course the government NEVER TELLS THE TRUTH and its probably more like 4/10

Whats next? Someone defending the government? Yea like we dont see liars and people that deserve a bullet in the brain for what they are.
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I usually buy meat at a better grocery store but this past month I bought some burgers at walmart , they were the worst burgers I ever ate. It tasted like they put sawdust in them. They were tough and un-chewable, was like they ground up a leather belt. I eat very little meat as I can't afford it anymore but I will never again buy their burgers, my guess is that they are adding something unchewable to the ground meat.
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If you have to buy meat at kroger, purchase the organic meat line that they offer. It is a little better but more pricey as well.

Even the produce at walmart is nasty. It is a very low grade. I try never to shop at walmart. Their meat is not that cheap either.
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I'm contemplating full on vegan at this point with all the disturbing shit in the news...

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The Vegan diet can be very dangerous...especially for a woman, because they have issues with Iron deficiency even with a normal diet...you literally have to graze all day like cattle to get enough nutrition from a vegan diet...
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the "brown" in the middle is nothing new.... its called "older" meat and they are getting rid of "inventory". no offense but all grocery stores have been guilty of this for the last 40 something yrs, i remember noticing this as a kid.

that you claim to be a chef and this is the first time you noticed it makes me wonder what your game really is. seems to be a concerted effort recently in the media to demonized red meat. red meat is great for a person's neurotransmitters.... it acts to 'satiate' the mind.
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Just an observation. We buy meat all the time from Kroger, and try and save as much as possible by buying anything that has been marked down, or reduced. Sometimes it's a little brown, and may even have a slight smell (not bad). Now, I can honestly say we have never gotten sick from anything we have gotten there. My brother is a naturalist, and they are in town, and we have been talking about it. He kills and cures his own meat, and says that they sometimes come across meat that has a slight odor, but still eat it. His thoughts are that we have become so accustomed to antibiotics for every little cold, that our bodies cannot handle even the smallest amount of bacteria. He and his kids, along with my family, have sworn off using any form of antibiotics, for almost 15 years. Both our families have not had hardly any colds, or other problems from not taking them, and are healthier than we ever have been. We have gone all natural as far as remedies. I think of how our ancestors survived without all the BS we put in our bodies, and it stands to reason that your body builds up its own defenses over time. So if SHTF, we should be able to survive without needing a lot of the modern medicines. Now if you get sick from something you bought at the store, do as everyone else does, sue.
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I had an organic chicken from kroger in the fridge for a few days. When I opened the pack it smelled so I soaked it in cold water with peroxide and salt then rinsed and repeat. Then I ran cold water over it and cut off the parts that still had a slight oder. I boiled it for broth for 2 hours. Do you think it is safe to use the broth. I gave my dog some of the chicken and she so far is fine.
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The very best steaks are aged in meat lockers for maximum flavor and tenderness...unless it's rotten, then aged beef is best.
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I had an organic chicken from kroger in the fridge for a few days. When I opened the pack it smelled so I soaked it in cold water with peroxide and salt then rinsed and repeat. Then I ran cold water over it and cut off the parts that still had a slight oder. I boiled it for broth for 2 hours. Do you think it is safe to use the broth. I gave my dog some of the chicken and she so far is fine.
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If it rots....at least it's real.
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I shop at Kroger, have for over 20 years, and never had a problem...they are more expensive than Wal-Mart, but I wouldn't even buy a wooden pencil from Wal-Mart...
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There is nothing wrong with pencils from Walmart.
In fact, their meat can be.. nah, never mind.
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I had an organic chicken from kroger in the fridge for a few days. When I opened the pack it smelled so I soaked it in cold water with peroxide and salt then rinsed and repeat. Then I ran cold water over it and cut off the parts that still had a slight oder. I boiled it for broth for 2 hours. Do you think it is safe to use the broth. I gave my dog some of the chicken and she so far is fine.
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If it rots....at least it's real.
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I made a garlic and herb pork roast yesterday, from Kroger, and it was awesome! I love their meats...the corned beef briskets are always perfect too...
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You're a chef but buy Kroger brand meat? Are you a chef at Golden Coral?
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