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<<<Wyoming Tribe Gains Right To Kill Bald Eagles>>>

 
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The Fish and Wildlife Service has approved a first-time permit allowing a Native American tribe in Wyoming to kill two bald eagles in a centuries-old religious ceremony once outlawed by the federal Bureau of Indian Affairs.

The step was hailed on Wednesday as a victory that honors the cultural and religious rituals practiced by the 9,600 Northern Arapahos on the Wind River Indian Reservation in west-central Wyoming.

"The eagle has been with us for so long, even before the settlers came. For the government to tell us, you can't use that bird anymore ... it slaps natives in the face," said tribal member Lokilo St. Claire.


It is almost always illegal to kill bald eagles, which were removed from the federal threatened and endangered species list in 2007 but are still safeguarded by laws like the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act.

The bald eagle is the national bird of the United States and is depicted on everything from the Great Seal of the United States to the dollar bill.

The Fish and Wildlife Service, which oversees conservation of eagles, has granted very few so-called "take" permits allowing Native Americans to kill golden eagles for religious purposes, spokeswoman Diane Katzenberger said.

The permit allowing a tribal take of bald eagles is believed to be the first of its kind.

Approval for the permit for the Northern Arapaho stems from a federal lawsuit the tribe filed in November that claimed the government's ban on the taking of an eagle infringed on religious and free speech rights guaranteed to tribal members by federal law, the constitution and treaties.

The Northern Arapaho first applied to the service in October 2009 and submitted a revised application in November 2010 to harvest eagles to be used in the "sun dance," an annual summer ceremony sacred to the tribe.

It was unclear whether the lawsuit would now be withdrawn. Andrew Baldwin, attorney for the tribe, said the Northern Arapaho would seek to renew the permit each year.



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The sun comes up everyday without dead eagles... wtf iamwith
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Outrageous. The government actually saves eagle feathers and body parts for Indians (oops sorry, Native Americans) to use but that's not good enough. They WANT to KILL two.

Unbelievable.
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And we kneel once again at the altar of political correctness. First it was whales, now eagles; isnít there a tribe who has the harvesting of politicians and lawyers as part of their cultural heritage?

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I dont know how I feel about this.. angry? Outraged? On my cabin lake I used to watch a bald eagle fly over my lake and shed go feed her young ones in the nest, Id watch them thru my Swat Scopes.
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It is beyond perverse that you can't kill a stupid bird,
but you can massacre human babies, wholesale.
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And we kneel once again at the altar of political correctness. First it was whales, now eagles; isnít there a tribe who has the harvesting of politicians and lawyers as part of their cultural heritage?
 Quoting: Hermittao


chuckle
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All for religion.....Of course. Sigh.
:kitten on fence:
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I want the right to ban the ads on this site, they're freezing opera. this sucks.


btw i support killing all things bald, save for, the rare balded beaver.
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And we kneel once again at the altar of political correctness. First it was whales, now eagles; isnít there a tribe who has the harvesting of politicians and lawyers as part of their cultural heritage?
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ha ha ha hilarious but great question
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I want the right to ban the ads on this site, they're freezing opera. this sucks.


btw i support killing all things bald, save for, the rare balded beaver.
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ohhhmy
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And we kneel once again at the altar of political correctness. First it was whales, now eagles; isnít there a tribe who has the harvesting of politicians and lawyers as part of their cultural heritage?
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Now there's a tribe worth following...

LOL
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Soverign nation with taxpayers money!
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Ok, but only if we get to kill two Injuns and feed them to the eagles afterwards. Gotta have balance.
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This from a tribe that used to put their elderly mothers (but not the fathers...) outside to freeze to death the minute their husbands died. Young girls were sold and traded for 'winter companions' and they burned more of their captives at the stake than the Inquisition at its most powerful. They're savages and I only wish it had been Genghis Khan who dealt with them when this country was first being settled and not soft-hearted Europeans.
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Those freeloading shitheads should be kicked off the reservation and have their welfare revoked. I say that we start a new religion where we get to hunt Indians and burn them at the stake as part of our religious ceremonies.
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It is beyond perverse that you can't kill a stupid bird,
but you can massacre human babies, wholesale.
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I concur.
Ban guns to "save the children" but killing them in the womb is totally cool......I see; it makes perfect sense now.
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Ok, but only if we get to kill two Injuns and feed them to the eagles afterwards. Gotta have balance.
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Those freeloading shitheads should be kicked off the reservation and have their welfare revoked. I say that we start a new religion where we get to hunt Indians and burn them at the stake as part of our religious ceremonies.
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Hate much? Killing helps the killing?.....
Something really wrong with this world......
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

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When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

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"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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And we kneel once again at the altar of political correctness. First it was whales, now eagles; isnít there a tribe who has the harvesting of politicians and lawyers as part of their cultural heritage?
 Quoting: Hermittao


Now that would be AWESOME !!! Could they start with O'bami??
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A lot worse has been done in society. A lot worse has been done in the name of GOD. Religious beliefs FOR ALL has to be ďacceptedĒ It doesnít matter what belief it is. Does that make any killing right? Hell no. But it is the way it is.. History has been nothing but a plaque on ALL lives on this planet. I come from a different mindset, Killing is WRONG unless for survival (and even for survival there is a level of respect that needs to remain in balance)
Think about what happens when there is no balance.

Killing in the name of a personal belief.
Killing in the name of your own gain.
Killing in the name of personal possessions.
Killing in the name of profit.


I could name many more, but you get the point. Killing is killing, murder is murder. This is NO tribe. This is the outcome of a plaque that has been infesting planet earth since the beginning of life itself.
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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Great thread V!! I love this article even though it's discusting to say the least!

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Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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With freedom comes responsibility.

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Great thread V!! I love this article even though it's discusting to say the least!


 Quoting: Aiyanna

Your pic there is full of irony, Plains Indians don't pet puppies like Europeans do; they eat them! How stupid do you think people are here?

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Outrageous. The government actually saves eagle feathers and body parts for Indians (oops sorry, Native Americans) to use but that's not good enough. They WANT to KILL two.

Unbelievable.
 Quoting: telling it straight



Interestingly on 3/7 someone posted this thread about a prophetic dream in which Obama shot an eagle and laughed about it.

Thread: "An Urgent WARNING DREAM from the Lord to America" (12-28-11 given to Pastor Td Hale
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just fyi

their permit to kill bald eagles
stops at 2.

2 is their bag limit
and it is for religious purposes.
denying them can land the gov
in a lawsuit discriminating
against their religion.

only 2 bald eagles will
be allowed.

it's not like it's open season
on bald eagles.
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just fyi

their permit to kill bald eagles
stops at 2.

2 is their bag limit
and it is for religious purposes.
denying them can land the gov
in a lawsuit discriminating
against their religion.

only 2 bald eagles will
be allowed.

it's not like it's open season
on bald eagles.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12586226

If you can kill one thing 'for religious purposes,' you can kill another. How about human sacrifice, so the Mexicans won't feel discriminated against? And if they can do it, why not the rest of the country? No lawyer could bring such a case to court with a straight face. This will be one fun PC dilemma: only liberals feel sorry for a bunch of primitives living off the tax-payers in the first place - the same people who usually support the environmental lobby and protections for wildlife.
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isnít there a tribe who has the harvesting of politicians and lawyers as part of their cultural heritage?
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9teen I like the way you think.

But the Indians where doing this before we came on the scene so a couple a year sounds reasonable enough to me.
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But the Indians where doing this before we came on the scene so a couple a year sounds reasonable enough to me.
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The Mexicans were cutting out hearts before the Spanish put a stop to it. The Hindus were burning women alive on funeral pyres before the British put a stop to it. Fair is fair. Accept one kind of barbarism, you'll get it all eventually.

The Indians lost, remember? Tribal members are 'wards of the government' and the rest of America doesn't have to put up with any shit from them at all. All the government has to do to shut them up is threaten to cut off their welfare and the free medical and dental they get all their lives - when thousands in this country have to die from lack of care because they can't afford it. Fuck'em. They're parasites and if you think they have any respect for the environment or any animals in it, you've never been on a reservation.

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