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They should introduce a Smart Card, that you insert into the pump before the petrol starts delivery, if your Road Tax, MOT and Insurance checks out. That would keep dishonest drivers off the road.
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You seriously think the gas corps will want to take a loss in profits?
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X1000

About f**king time, it's getting ridiculous here in the UK with muppets that have no tax or insurance, why should we have to pay £100 / year in our policies for them?


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Perhaps you should look close at yourself, and ask why you allow yourself to be raped, when other clearly are taking action to avoid it. It seems you are resentful of them not suffering, simply because you are not willing to stop your own suffering.
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It is a fantastic idea. Car insurance is diabolical over here, £5k my sister was quoted for her first years insurance.

If it stops the bastards that ride around for free at our expense then I am all for it.

I have nothing to hide from big brother, let him watch me.
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Geesh, at least it's common sense for a change! I've paid hundreds...thousands in auto insurance and have a perfect driving record, me and husband BOTH....something is definetely WRONG "there". Especially when we have never ABUSED our insurance. (NEVER)!! But, it keeps going UP for some strange reason. The latest being, "pet accidents insurance"..in case you run over your neighbors pet..an extra $5 a month! (What is BAD is having to PAY for this bullshit on top of them free-loading on my back everyday of the month!!!) ... foodstamps, gov't housing and welfare benefits OUT THE TEETH that you and I pay for every paycheck we work HARD to EARN!



UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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they will soon have cctv's in your home making sure you take care of your children properly, are not abusing your spouse and only performing gov't approved love making positions.
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they will soon have cctv's in your home making sure you take care of your children properly, are not abusing your spouse and only performing gov't approved love making positions.
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Cue Twilight Zone music.

I bet you twitch a lot.
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03/17/2012 09:16 PM
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Regarding above post, UK already allows cctv's in home for parents who are surveilance for not taking care of their children properly. F off.
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Regarding above post, UK already allows cctv's in home for parents who are surveilance for not taking care of their children properly. F off.
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You are full of shit and twice as sloppy.

You watch way too much tv.
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To all you American, and Canadian people, I hope you understand what some of us, who are sane have to fight against with convincing arguments which never seem to have any effect on them, by them having no comprehension what so ever of the importance of these restrictions, and violations on normal peoples rights to use what looks like a distorded possible way of preventing crime, while accumilating a list of names on a database by default by so called gliches.

Woe is me I live in the new Alcatraz, called Britaniatraz. propogandasheeplebah
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I shouldn't get your knickers in a twist about this; it's a good idea. The number plate recognition system only requires linking to the data base at DVLA (Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency) which already has other systems monitoring the roads anyway.

Frankly, I would be delighted if the silly buggers who drive without having paid road tax and insurance could be stopped from filling up their cars with fuel. It might help put a stop to the tragedies and hardship that these morons cause. Plus, because the numbers of illegal non-payers is so high, it would significantly bring down the costs to honest drivers, if the skivers had to pay their share too.

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 Quoting: Merlin


Wow, this could have been written about America as well. We have tons of illegals, who drive with no insurance. If they cause an accident, they get away with it with no penalty. Our insurance rates go up to make up the difference. Totally sucks. Of course in the US, the big corporations love having low wage illegals, so it probably won't happen here.
 Quoting: INK1


Yeah, and anyone that believes that the insurance or tax rate would EVER be lowered even if a program such as this was successful is a damned fool.

Keep applauding the nanny state and volunteering your fellow man's liberties for the sake of greed...

We are all getting what you deserve for it.
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Geesh, at least it's common sense for a change! I've paid hundreds...thousands in auto insurance and have a perfect driving record, me and husband BOTH....something is definetely WRONG "there". Especially when we have never ABUSED our insurance. (NEVER)!! But, it keeps going UP for some strange reason. The latest being, "pet accidents insurance"..in case you run over your neighbors pet..an extra $5 a month! (What is BAD is having to PAY for this bullshit on top of them free-loading on my back everyday of the month!!!) ... foodstamps, gov't housing and welfare benefits OUT THE TEETH that you and I pay for every paycheck we work HARD to EARN!



UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You're a fkn idiot.
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03/17/2012 09:39 PM
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I shouldn't get your knickers in a twist about this; it's a good idea. The number plate recognition system only requires linking to the data base at DVLA (Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency) which already has other systems monitoring the roads anyway.

Frankly, I would be delighted if the silly buggers who drive without having paid road tax and insurance could be stopped from filling up their cars with fuel. It might help put a stop to the tragedies and hardship that these morons cause. Plus, because the numbers of illegal non-payers is so high, it would significantly bring down the costs to honest drivers, if the skivers had to pay their share too.

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12693385, I don't watch tv at all, Unlike you I am a thinkning person. You're a sheep and I have never said that to anyone before.
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Saturday, Mar 17

[link to boingboing.net]

Under a pending proposal, the license-plate cameras at UK filling stations
will soon begin to trigger automatic lookups of every motorist's insurance and tax records.
Drivers whose insurance and tax records can't be located or verified
will not be allowed to fill their tanks.

This requires that the existing cameras,
which are there to document drivers who don't pay for their gas,
be connected to sensitive government databases
filled with identifying personal information.

Forensic cameras -- whose records are used (after the fact) to catch crooks --
don't need to be 100 percent accurate,
since almost every plate they capture
will not be involved in a crime,
and ambiguous results can be resolved by a human backstop.

But cameras that prevent you from getting something you need, like petrol,
need to be 100 percent accurate,
since it wouldn't do to let the person operating the cash-register
override the judgment of the automated system.

“This proposal will increase the potential for conflict.
Our cashiers are not law enforcers.”

[link to www.mirror.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12672444


The Brits?
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They should introduce a Smart Card, that you insert into the pump before the petrol starts delivery, if your Road Tax, MOT and Insurance checks out. That would keep dishonest drivers off the road.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12526210


Better yet, they should just microchip all of us. You know RFID. Yeah, that's the ticket!

pick
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03/17/2012 09:46 PM
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Seems there is always a very savoury and plausible - knee jerk - acceptability for all these new powers of tracking, tracing and surveillance.

Insurance and taxation will increase anyway.
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Look, I will enlighten all of you what the end result of a law like this would be.

Poor people not being able to fuel up.

Next...

A bunch of wealthy people with punctured gas tanks.

For if you back the poor into a corner, they will bite.

As the saying goes: "When the poor starve long enough, they eat the rich."

Another old saying: "Careful what you wish for."

I find it hard to believe that adults with education levels high enough to maintain a decent economic life style in today's world economy don't see the plain truth.

The effect of stripping the free housing, food and medical care from the poor and indigent.

Then instituting laws such as this that are designed to further persecute and punish the poor.

Riots. Home invasions. Kidnapping. Murder. The entire social construct that allows you to be so DISCONNECTED from your fellow man that you feel no compassion or empathy would come crashing down.

THINK!!!

Instead of further criminalizing of the poor and less fortunate, hell even those that are flat out lazy...

How about bringing all the manufacturing jobs back to Europe and North America.

Give the COMMON man a chance to survive and be self reliant.

No...

You would rather see them suffer... for the very greed that makes you covet your possessions, wealth, and social standing has turned your heart coal black with hatred and resentment.

Try thinking of solutions that don't include putting people in prison.

Fixing the problem... NOT THE REACTION!!!

Damned fools the lot of ya...
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03/17/2012 09:47 PM
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>>>>>>>>SLAVERY<<<<<<<<<


This isn't nothing yet. This is what happens when a) you foolishly give up your guns, and b) stay bent over.

Wait for another year or so when you have to take the mark of the best, and they make a law saying they can take your children out of school, molest them, then return them...unless they feel like keeping them. It will be called, "European peace love act" or some bullshit.

This is UKs battle. Their sick leaders are trying to rape the entire world in the same manner. Dont make us Americans come over then and clean this shit up cuz if we do, it wont be pretty. Best do it yourself.

prayers sent.
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Anyone who believes this action will reduce their insurance rates is beyond delusional.
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>>>>>>>>SLAVERY<<<<<<<<<


This isn't nothing yet. This is what happens when a) you foolishly give up your guns, and b) stay bent over.

Wait for another year or so when you have to take the mark of the best, and they make a law saying they can take your children out of school, molest them, then return them...unless they feel like keeping them. It will be called, "European peace love act" or some bullshit.

This is UKs battle. Their sick leaders are trying to rape the entire world in the same manner. Dont make us Americans come over then and clean this shit up cuz if we do, it wont be pretty. Best do it yourself.

prayers sent.
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Are you suggesting the US is any better, or that our leaders wouldn't resort to some insane rights violation such as this? Someone REALLY needs a reality check!
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Look, I will enlighten all of you what the end result of a law like this would be.

Poor people not being able to fuel up.

Next...

A bunch of wealthy people with punctured gas tanks.

For if you back the poor into a corner, they will bite.

As the saying goes: "When the poor starve long enough, they eat the rich."

Another old saying: "Careful what you wish for."

I find it hard to believe that adults with education levels high enough to maintain a decent economic life style in today's world economy don't see the plain truth.

The effect of stripping the free housing, food and medical care from the poor and indigent.

Then instituting laws such as this that are designed to further persecute and punish the poor.

Riots. Home invasions. Kidnapping. Murder. The entire social construct that allows you to be so DISCONNECTED from your fellow man that you feel no compassion or empathy would come crashing down.

THINK!!!

Instead of further criminalizing of the poor and less fortunate, hell even those that are flat out lazy...

How about bringing all the manufacturing jobs back to Europe and North America.

Give the COMMON man a chance to survive and be self reliant.

No...

You would rather see them suffer... for the very greed that makes you covet your possessions, wealth, and social standing has turned your heart coal black with hatred and resentment.

Try thinking of solutions that don't include putting people in prison.

Fixing the problem... NOT THE REACTION!!!

Damned fools the lot of ya...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1601336


Good post, and the ultimate humane response. Most are losing that it seems.
STYLIE

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Look, I will enlighten all of you what the end result of a law like this would be.

Poor people not being able to fuel up.

Next...

A bunch of wealthy people with punctured gas tanks.

For if you back the poor into a corner, they will bite.

As the saying goes: "When the poor starve long enough, they eat the rich."

Another old saying: "Careful what you wish for."

I find it hard to believe that adults with education levels high enough to maintain a decent economic life style in today's world economy don't see the plain truth.

The effect of stripping the free housing, food and medical care from the poor and indigent.

Then instituting laws such as this that are designed to further persecute and punish the poor.

Riots. Home invasions. Kidnapping. Murder. The entire social construct that allows you to be so DISCONNECTED from your fellow man that you feel no compassion or empathy would come crashing down.

THINK!!!

Instead of further criminalizing of the poor and less fortunate, hell even those that are flat out lazy...

How about bringing all the manufacturing jobs back to Europe and North America.

Give the COMMON man a chance to survive and be self reliant.

No...

You would rather see them suffer... for the very greed that makes you covet your possessions, wealth, and social standing has turned your heart coal black with hatred and resentment.

Try thinking of solutions that don't include putting people in prison.

Fixing the problem... NOT THE REACTION!!!

Damned fools the lot of ya...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1601336


Quoting myself because I didn't intend to hide behind the AC monicker
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03/17/2012 09:55 PM
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Chicago is installing stop light and speed cameras in park and school zones. They are now confiscating tax refunds from anyone owing fines for parking tickets.
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03/17/2012 09:56 PM
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I guarantee that the CCTV's will NEVER catch a Brit brushing his teeth!
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Geesh, at least it's common sense for a change! I've paid hundreds...thousands in auto insurance and have a perfect driving record, me and husband BOTH....something is definetely WRONG "there". Especially when we have never ABUSED our insurance. (NEVER)!! But, it keeps going UP for some strange reason. The latest being, "pet accidents insurance"..in case you run over your neighbors pet..an extra $5 a month! (What is BAD is having to PAY for this bullshit on top of them free-loading on my back everyday of the month!!!) ... foodstamps, gov't housing and welfare benefits OUT THE TEETH that you and I pay for every paycheck we work HARD to EARN!



UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10623211


You're a fkn idiot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1601336


NO, not quite, I'm a WORKER! and what's that make you?? A law-abiding, blood-sucking idiot? Out for the working-mans $$$$!!!
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Saturday, Mar 17

[link to boingboing.net]

Under a pending proposal, the license-plate cameras at UK filling stations
will soon begin to trigger automatic lookups of every motorist's insurance and tax records.
Drivers whose insurance and tax records can't be located or verified
will not be allowed to fill their tanks.

This requires that the existing cameras,
which are there to document drivers who don't pay for their gas,
be connected to sensitive government databases
filled with identifying personal information.

Forensic cameras -- whose records are used (after the fact) to catch crooks --
don't need to be 100 percent accurate,
since almost every plate they capture
will not be involved in a crime,
and ambiguous results can be resolved by a human backstop.

But cameras that prevent you from getting something you need, like petrol,
need to be 100 percent accurate,
since it wouldn't do to let the person operating the cash-register
override the judgment of the automated system.

“This proposal will increase the potential for conflict.
Our cashiers are not law enforcers.”

[link to www.mirror.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12672444





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Geesh, at least it's common sense for a change! I've paid hundreds...thousands in auto insurance and have a perfect driving record, me and husband BOTH....something is definetely WRONG "there". Especially when we have never ABUSED our insurance. (NEVER)!! But, it keeps going UP for some strange reason. The latest being, "pet accidents insurance"..in case you run over your neighbors pet..an extra $5 a month! (What is BAD is having to PAY for this bullshit on top of them free-loading on my back everyday of the month!!!) ... foodstamps, gov't housing and welfare benefits OUT THE TEETH that you and I pay for every paycheck we work HARD to EARN!



UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10623211


You're a fkn idiot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1601336


NO, not quite, I'm a WORKER! and what's that make you?? A law-abiding, blood-sucking idiot? Out for the working-mans $$$$!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10623211


Blood sucking? I work 10-12 hour shifts 6 days a week and work a part time job working on vehicles on top of that.

I pay plenty of taxes, so I have the RIGHT to not only express my opinion of your dumb ass, but to tell you to kiss mine as well.

It's obvious however that you have fallen for the bullshit "class war" propaganda though haven't you?

Since when do you get any special rights as a HUMAN BEING because you pay more taxes?

Are you MORE EQUAL than your fellow man?

More deserving of a meal? Of your very life?

A dangerous path your line of thinking leads to...

"I'm a worker" "I'm more special and deserving than those that don't" "Let them all starve"

What happens when you get laid off from your job? Or a tornado wipes out your whole town?

You won't need shelter for a night huh? Won't need a free meal?

Not one?

Must be nice... to be so SPECIAL and DESERVING.

Idiot, and if put in the same situation of the MILLIONS that you seem to hate so much... you would most likely be a hypocrite, if you aren't already.

Never needed help in your WHOLE LIFE? Not from family, friends... ever?

"Blood suckers" ... fucking sickening to hear such hate speech...

Incredible, you are a heartless bastard and deserve every hateful thing that you wish upon others...
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Saturday, Mar 17

[link to boingboing.net]

Under a pending proposal, the license-plate cameras at UK filling stations
will soon begin to trigger automatic lookups of every motorist's insurance and tax records.
Drivers whose insurance and tax records can't be located or verified
will not be allowed to fill their tanks.

This requires that the existing cameras,
which are there to document drivers who don't pay for their gas,
be connected to sensitive government databases
filled with identifying personal information.

Forensic cameras -- whose records are used (after the fact) to catch crooks --
don't need to be 100 percent accurate,
since almost every plate they capture
will not be involved in a crime,
and ambiguous results can be resolved by a human backstop.

But cameras that prevent you from getting something you need, like petrol,
need to be 100 percent accurate,
since it wouldn't do to let the person operating the cash-register
override the judgment of the automated system.

“This proposal will increase the potential for conflict.
Our cashiers are not law enforcers.”

[link to www.mirror.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12672444


Not sure whats worse..this or the x4 $1.50 tollways we gotta pay on Highway i90 to and from chicago each way
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