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mind if I post this on in5d? If so, what name would you like as the author?
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You can post anything I write freely. Please do. The more that see this knowledge the better.

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mind if I post this on in5d? If so, what name would you like as the author?
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You can post anything I write freely. Please do. The more that see this knowledge the better.

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Might want to credit it to Dr Brian Weiss though ! banana2
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mind if I post this on in5d? If so, what name would you like as the author?
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You can post anything I write freely. Please do. The more that see this knowledge the better.

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Might want to credit it to Dr Brian Weiss though ! banana2
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I'm sure that he would suggest many, many others also. What I have presented here is certainly not just his. I don't even know the guy.
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Lets just hope that we aren't having the same conversation 5 years from now.

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We each must find our own truth.
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Truth is not taught. Truth is realized.


So please my friends, stop waiting for the official word or recognition especially from people in power.
That's why we're a world divided right now.
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(in Bold^^^) When are you going to realize Your Truth?
You should mind your own business and pay more attention to what's going on in Your Life(~).

hf
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What are you talking about?
Mind my business? We're on a forum.

My life and my truth is why I say what I said.
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Lets just hope that we aren't having the same conversation 5 years from now.
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Yeah, I'm tired...
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Thanks, Fibonacci!!
Most excellent thread!
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I thought that I would write down some key ideas that I believe we must come to grips with before we can begin to become the advanced beings we really already are. These ideas may seem simple at first, but they are much more complex and difficult than most of us realize. There are other concepts that I have not included or addressed here. My only purpose in posting this bullet list is to get people to begin to think about these ideas and to pursue them by listening to their heart.

You may find these concepts to be complete BS! That is completely OK. I don't expect anyone to take what I say as truth. We each must find our own truth. All I would say is to begin to question these ideas and see if they ring true in your heart. If they don't, just move on. We are all on our own unique journey.

Go in peace,
Fibonacci

=====================================================

- Our soul/inner spiritual consciousness was never born and will never die. We are truly infinite and powerful spiritual beings.

- We are not this frail, finite, physical body. We are very advanced spiritual beings that come to this dense physical reality to learn from it. We volunteered to come experience this dense, restricting and difficult reality. Only the strongest of the strong volunteered for this amazing challenge.

- We will continue to live many, many incarnations here until we begin to understand what truly powerful spiritual beings we really are and begin to understand that it is within our power to leave whenever we want. Many people consider us to be slaves in this reality. Yes, we are! BUT, once we begin to remember who we really are, we can't be held here any longer. We are really more powerful than most of us can imagine.

- Until we understand that we must walk through this world alone, we will never become the advanced beings we really are. Each of us have a unique path to follow through this world. Your path is not my path. Until we stop depending on a teacher, guru, master, preacher or partner to show us the way, we will never be free. This is a solitary journey and so we must walk our path alone.

- Our earthly family is not our real family. Our earthly family are usually just beings that came together for this incarnation to learn from each other. Our family here are not people we can depend on any more than any other people in the world. In truth, all living beings are our brothers and sisters, not just the ones we consider our immediate family.

- Our mind/ego is not who we really are. When we listen to our mind/ego to guide us instead of our heart, we will forever be led astray. It is only once we learn to quiet our mind/ego and to listen to the subtle messages from our heart that we will begin to follow our true path.

- Fear is our worst and toughest adversary. If we understand that we are really infinite beings, we will begin to understand that we really have nothing to fear in this world. Fear distracts us from our true path and keeps us lost and confused. Usually our greatest fears are issues that we need to address the most. Our fears are teaching us a lesson to learn from. As crazy as it may seem, embrace your fears and deal with them with courage and love in your heart.

- There are some beings that have not been incarnating here on Earth for very long and are really quite immature souls. However, there are some beings that have been incarnating here on Earth for a very long time. These are known to us as old souls. The young immature souls are like young children, at times doing bad things, throwing temper tantrums and hurting others. One spiritual being is not better or higher than any other, we are just each at a different point in our journey. Jesus, Buddha and Krishna were old souls and there have been many others that we are not even aware of. They have always been around to guide us. Evil people are just immature souls and are learning from every mistake they make.

- What is God? Imagine every living creature in this universe as a drop of water and God as the ocean. Therefore, with this view you can see that we are each a PART of God. We are all therefore truly brothers and sisters. We are not lower level children to be controlled and guided by God. We are all really a unique, piece or fractal of God! Therefore we are all sons/daughters of God.
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Most of the above is absoulutely correct. This is a test, speedbumps and sting operations to cull out our integrity or lack thereof.

There was no Jesus, that was a campilation of myths that Constantine used from the Jewish old/new testament allagorical stories to get the Romans on board...it worked.
Thoroughly misinterpreted and by design now days.
Buddha was the real deal...sort of a prison chaplain for the masses...

Earth is for a totally individual experience... Most in prison, many in school, few on vacation.

We are completely controlled by higher spiritually supernatural ETs. Lower levels are allowed to play in the mix of this blinded planet. Bazzilions of entities and dimensions. Vast majority are utopias.
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I do think along these terms how you describe. You look at all kind of teachings along the way. So I wont agree or disagree but one question, I kinda know the answer you may say, but if we reincarnate and an asteroid wiped out 7 billion people then how could 7 billion people just be born. So they would have to wait. Your probably going to say that they are reincarnated on a dif plane or planet. So thats a belief. Not 100 percent truth, 50 percent at least. Either you are right or wrong. Its a belief
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Thanks, Fibonacci!!
Most excellent thread!
hf
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Thanks
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We each must find our own truth.
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Truth is not taught. Truth is realized.


So please my friends, stop waiting for the official word or recognition especially from people in power.
That's why we're a world divided right now.
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(in Bold^^^) When are you going to realize Your Truth?
You should mind your own business and pay more attention to what's going on in Your Life(~).

hf
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eww it's a troll
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And there are an infinate number of supernatural godlike beings that are benevolent and are aware of our every thought.

One God....on earth, one power plant...nope thousands...
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I do think along these terms how you describe. You look at all kind of teachings along the way. So I wont agree or disagree but one question, I kinda know the answer you may say, but if we reincarnate and an asteroid wiped out 7 billion people then how could 7 billion people just be born. So they would have to wait. Your probably going to say that they are reincarnated on a dif plane or planet. So thats a belief. Not 100 percent truth, 50 percent at least. Either you are right or wrong. Its a belief
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When you sit quietly and stop the constant noise of your mind/ego, what does your heart tell you concerning these questions? That's the right answer.
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Mind if I throw in a quote..

Our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting; The soul that rises with us, our life's star, Hath had elsewhere its setting, And cometh from afar; Not in entire forgetfulness, And not in utter nakedness, But trailing clouds of glory do we come From God, who is our home.

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When you die you are dead and you blink out of existence without your brain. Do you remember when you were not born?
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Mind if I throw in a quote..

Our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting; The soul that rises with us, our life's star, Hath had elsewhere its setting, And cometh from afar; Not in entire forgetfulness, And not in utter nakedness, But trailing clouds of glory do we come From God, who is our home.

William Wordsworth (1770-1850)
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As I said earlier, these truths have always been with us. I am not saying anything new here.

Thank you!
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When you die you are dead and you blink out of existence without your brain. Do you remember when you were not born?
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I my opinion, at that point you remember ALL of your previous lives and the times before your earliest birth here. And then forget again when you are reborn into a new physical body...

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So if a creator created what we live in then we are at the will of the creator or living inside the creator. I cant see how creation could have come into existence like science says but that then it gave us reincarnation. So we would agree on a creator. Then if there is a creator they must be an intelligent being with reason of how to think but also more than that being the creator. If the creator is a thinking being and not just a source of magic stardust than it may mean the creator dosent care how people behave, which then would mean that there is no hope. So I believe we walk and up to a creator. Maybe we do reincarnate but then that would be at the discretion and judgement of the creator as to why you may have a better or worse life than the previous one. Nobody ever talks about the creator
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So if a creator created what we live in then we are at the will of the creator or living inside the creator. I cant see how creation could have come into existence like science says but that then it gave us reincarnation. So we would agree on a creator. Then if there is a creator they must be an intelligent being with reason of how to think but also more than that being the creator. If the creator is a thinking being and not just a source of magic stardust than it may mean the creator dosent care how people behave, which then would mean that there is no hope. So I believe we walk and up to a creator. Maybe we do reincarnate but then that would be at the discretion and judgement of the creator as to why you may have a better or worse life than the previous one. Nobody ever talks about the creator
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We are not living by the will of the Creator, we are living by our will, which is His/Hers will...
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When you die you are dead and you blink out of existence without your brain. Do you remember when you were not born?
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Can you even imagine how it feels not to exist? If we're talking logical, can a state that we can't even imagine realy exist?
I guess with "logical" arguments you can't tell if it's that or the other way.
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I thought that I would write down some key ideas that I believe we must come to grips with before we can begin to become the advanced beings we really already are. These ideas may seem simple at first, but they are much more complex and difficult than most of us realize. There are other concepts that I have not included or addressed here. My only purpose in posting this bullet list is to get people to begin to think about these ideas and to pursue them by listening to their heart.

You may find these concepts to be complete BS! That is completely OK. I don't expect anyone to take what I say as truth. We each must find our own truth. All I would say is to begin to question these ideas and see if they ring true in your heart. If they don't, just move on. We are all on our own unique journey.

Go in peace,
Fibonacci

=====================================================

- Our soul/inner spiritual consciousness was never born and will never die. We are truly infinite and powerful spiritual beings.

- We are not this frail, finite, physical body. We are very advanced spiritual beings that come to this dense physical reality to learn from it. We volunteered to come experience this dense, restricting and difficult reality. Only the strongest of the strong volunteered for this amazing challenge.

- We will continue to live many, many incarnations here until we begin to understand what truly powerful spiritual beings we really are and begin to understand that it is within our power to leave whenever we want. Many people consider us to be slaves in this reality. Yes, we are! BUT, once we begin to remember who we really are, we can't be held here any longer. We are really more powerful than most of us can imagine.

- Until we understand that we must walk through this world alone, we will never become the advanced beings we really are. Each of us have a unique path to follow through this world. Your path is not my path. Until we stop depending on a teacher, guru, master, preacher or partner to show us the way, we will never be free. This is a solitary journey and so we must walk our path alone.

- Our earthly family is not our real family. Our earthly family are usually just beings that came together for this incarnation to learn from each other. Our family here are not people we can depend on any more than any other people in the world. In truth, all living beings are our brothers and sisters, not just the ones we consider our immediate family.

- Our mind/ego is not who we really are. When we listen to our mind/ego to guide us instead of our heart, we will forever be led astray. It is only once we learn to quiet our mind/ego and to listen to the subtle messages from our heart that we will begin to follow our true path.

- Fear is our worst and toughest adversary. If we understand that we are really infinite beings, we will begin to understand that we really have nothing to fear in this world. Fear distracts us from our true path and keeps us lost and confused. Usually our greatest fears are issues that we need to address the most. Our fears are teaching us a lesson to learn from. As crazy as it may seem, embrace your fears and deal with them with courage and love in your heart.

- There are some beings that have not been incarnating here on Earth for very long and are really quite immature souls. However, there are some beings that have been incarnating here on Earth for a very long time. These are known to us as old souls. The young immature souls are like young children, at times doing bad things, throwing temper tantrums and hurting others. One spiritual being is not better or higher than any other, we are just each at a different point in our journey. Jesus, Buddha and Krishna were old souls and there have been many others that we are not even aware of. They have always been around to guide us. Evil people are just immature souls and are learning from every mistake they make.

- What is God? Imagine every living creature in this universe as a drop of water and God as the ocean. Therefore, with this view you can see that we are each a PART of God. We are all therefore truly brothers and sisters. We are not lower level children to be controlled and guided by God. We are all really a unique, piece or fractal of God! Therefore we are all sons/daughters of God.
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OP needs to cut back on the Third Rock from the Sun reruns.

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How do we know that these ideas are true as God intended them to be? How can we be certain? Should't we reject anybody ideas and only seek that which resonates within our heart?
To incarnate here over and over again and this whole system of Karmic debt ( like our current monetary debt system) is to me highly unfair, like evil imposition, never to be repaid back, I believe that it was not an original God's idea and intention who is pure love, but more like evil imposition by the usurper. Too much deception in this universe. Virtual realities within virtual realities as Amitakh Stanford call it in her essays. Who can we trust? only our inner selves.
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I thought that I would write down some key ideas that I believe we must come to grips with before we can begin to become the advanced beings we really already are. These ideas may seem simple at first, but they are much more complex and difficult than most of us realize. There are other concepts that I have not included or addressed here. My only purpose in posting this bullet list is to get people to begin to think about these ideas and to pursue them by listening to their heart.

You may find these concepts to be complete BS! That is completely OK. I don't expect anyone to take what I say as truth. We each must find our own truth. All I would say is to begin to question these ideas and see if they ring true in your heart. If they don't, just move on. We are all on our own unique journey.

Go in peace,
Fibonacci

=====================================================

- Our soul/inner spiritual consciousness was never born and will never die. We are truly infinite and powerful spiritual beings.

- We are not this frail, finite, physical body. We are very advanced spiritual beings that come to this dense physical reality to learn from it. We volunteered to come experience this dense, restricting and difficult reality. Only the strongest of the strong volunteered for this amazing challenge.

- We will continue to live many, many incarnations here until we begin to understand what truly powerful spiritual beings we really are and begin to understand that it is within our power to leave whenever we want. Many people consider us to be slaves in this reality. Yes, we are! BUT, once we begin to remember who we really are, we can't be held here any longer. We are really more powerful than most of us can imagine.

- Until we understand that we must walk through this world alone, we will never become the advanced beings we really are. Each of us have a unique path to follow through this world. Your path is not my path. Until we stop depending on a teacher, guru, master, preacher or partner to show us the way, we will never be free. This is a solitary journey and so we must walk our path alone.

- Our earthly family is not our real family. Our earthly family are usually just beings that came together for this incarnation to learn from each other. Our family here are not people we can depend on any more than any other people in the world. In truth, all living beings are our brothers and sisters, not just the ones we consider our immediate family.

- Our mind/ego is not who we really are. When we listen to our mind/ego to guide us instead of our heart, we will forever be led astray. It is only once we learn to quiet our mind/ego and to listen to the subtle messages from our heart that we will begin to follow our true path.

- Fear is our worst and toughest adversary. If we understand that we are really infinite beings, we will begin to understand that we really have nothing to fear in this world. Fear distracts us from our true path and keeps us lost and confused. Usually our greatest fears are issues that we need to address the most. Our fears are teaching us a lesson to learn from. As crazy as it may seem, embrace your fears and deal with them with courage and love in your heart.

- There are some beings that have not been incarnating here on Earth for very long and are really quite immature souls. However, there are some beings that have been incarnating here on Earth for a very long time. These are known to us as old souls. The young immature souls are like young children, at times doing bad things, throwing temper tantrums and hurting others. One spiritual being is not better or higher than any other, we are just each at a different point in our journey. Jesus, Buddha and Krishna were old souls and there have been many others that we are not even aware of. They have always been around to guide us. Evil people are just immature souls and are learning from every mistake they make.

- What is God? Imagine every living creature in this universe as a drop of water and God as the ocean. Therefore, with this view you can see that we are each a PART of God. We are all therefore truly brothers and sisters. We are not lower level children to be controlled and guided by God. We are all really a unique, piece or fractal of God! Therefore we are all sons/daughters of God.
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Nicely said, OP. hf
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So if a creator created what we live in then we are at the will of the creator or living inside the creator. I cant see how creation could have come into existence like science says but that then it gave us reincarnation. So we would agree on a creator. Then if there is a creator they must be an intelligent being with reason of how to think but also more than that being the creator. If the creator is a thinking being and not just a source of magic stardust than it may mean the creator dosent care how people behave, which then would mean that there is no hope. So I believe we walk and up to a creator. Maybe we do reincarnate but then that would be at the discretion and judgement of the creator as to why you may have a better or worse life than the previous one. Nobody ever talks about the creator
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We are not living by the will of the Creator, we are living by our will, which is His/Hers will...
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Maybe it is the creators will to send us back and keep sending us back (living the same repetition) until we learn that we have to choose a different path ?

Creator may not create but just throws us in to circumstance and it is up to the individuals to make their own choices.
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The idea of trans or multi-dimensional beings is not automatically absurd, even under accepted modern physics. There are particles whose effects can be measured in our 4 dimensional subjective experience but which actually "exist" in more or less or different dimensions; so I'm with you up to there.

How you, or anyone, can know whether humans are such creatures still eludes me. Even more so, to attach a very familiar human motive to it (we are the chosen ones, we were the bravest, we volunteered for the great quest, etc) seems dubious. How do you know? Maybe only the worst and most reviled higher dimensional beings are sent to this reality, and we are all basically exiled criminals. Maybe it's random, or directed by a third party, or, or, or...

It's that kind of speculation that detracts from the far more interesting point about the multidimensional nature of the universe and maybe of life.
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Yet another thread for a Gathering Of Kindred Spirits.
The momentum is picking up.
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We volunteered to come experience this dense, restricting and difficult reality.
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I am absolutely sure I did NOT volunteer for this shitty experience called life.

Stop spreading your personal belief system as the absolute truth.
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The light of truth has appeared to all of us, if we are willing to see. The light of truth is within you. See also: [link to www.hallvworthington.com]
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