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The Book of Enoch, ETs, and the Church Coverup

 
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Jesus was the first perfected human being who became the Christ, of which we have the same capability.
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they have found aramaic fragments of book of Enoch. this also lends to the authenticity
 Quoting: Salt


a rather large contradiction between
Enoch and the Hebrew Leviticus

in Enoch, God punishes those Angels
who mated with women and it specifically
mentions the ring leader of Azazel.
The other ArcAngels bound Azazel in
a pit and God makes his soul wander
the earth as punishment.

Now to Leviticus 16:8

and Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats, one lot for the Lord and the other lot for Azazel.

How did Azazel get back into
good graces with God that Aaron
should offer him a sacrifice ???

the great flood happened between
the 2 accounts or usages of Azazel.

Azazel is also an entity within
Satanic Occult which is worshiped
today.
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misquoting scripture. here is the entire chapter:

Leviticus 16
The Day of Atonement
1 The LORD spoke to Moses after the death of the two sons of Aaron who died when they approached the LORD. 2 The LORD said to Moses: “Tell your brother Aaron that he is not to come whenever he chooses into the Most Holy Place behind the curtain in front of the atonement cover on the ark, or else he will die. For I will appear in the cloud over the atonement cover.

3 “This is how Aaron is to enter the Most Holy Place: He must first bring a young bull for a sin offering[a] and a ram for a burnt offering. 4 He is to put on the sacred linen tunic, with linen undergarments next to his body; he is to tie the linen sash around him and put on the linen turban. These are sacred garments; so he must bathe himself with water before he puts them on. 5 From the Israelite community he is to take two male goats for a sin offering and a ram for a burnt offering.

6 “Aaron is to offer the bull for his own sin offering to make atonement for himself and his household. 7 Then he is to take the two goats and present them before the LORD at the entrance to the tent of meeting. 8 He is to cast lots for the two goats—one lot for the LORD and the other for the scapegoat. 9 Aaron shall bring the goat whose lot falls to the LORD and sacrifice it for a sin offering. 10 But the goat chosen by lot as the scapegoat shall be presented alive before the LORD to be used for making atonement by sending it into the wilderness as a scapegoat.

11 “Aaron shall bring the bull for his own sin offering to make atonement for himself and his household, and he is to slaughter the bull for his own sin offering. 12 He is to take a censer full of burning coals from the altar before the LORD and two handfuls of finely ground fragrant incense and take them behind the curtain. 13 He is to put the incense on the fire before the LORD, and the smoke of the incense will conceal the atonement cover above the tablets of the covenant law, so that he will not die. 14 He is to take some of the bull’s blood and with his finger sprinkle it on the front of the atonement cover; then he shall sprinkle some of it with his finger seven times before the atonement cover.

15 “He shall then slaughter the goat for the sin offering for the people and take its blood behind the curtain and do with it as he did with the bull’s blood: He shall sprinkle it on the atonement cover and in front of it. 16 In this way he will make atonement for the Most Holy Place because of the uncleanness and rebellion of the Israelites, whatever their sins have been. He is to do the same for the tent of meeting, which is among them in the midst of their uncleanness. 17 No one is to be in the tent of meeting from the time Aaron goes in to make atonement in the Most Holy Place until he comes out, having made atonement for himself, his household and the whole community of Israel.

18 “Then he shall come out to the altar that is before the LORD and make atonement for it. He shall take some of the bull’s blood and some of the goat’s blood and put it on all the horns of the altar. 19 He shall sprinkle some of the blood on it with his finger seven times to cleanse it and to consecrate it from the uncleanness of the Israelites.

20 “When Aaron has finished making atonement for the Most Holy Place, the tent of meeting and the altar, he shall bring forward the live goat. 21 He is to lay both hands on the head of the live goat and confess over it all the wickedness and rebellion of the Israelites—all their sins—and put them on the goat’s head. He shall send the goat away into the wilderness in the care of someone appointed for the task. 22 The goat will carry on itself all their sins to a remote place; and the man shall release it in the wilderness.

23 “Then Aaron is to go into the tent of meeting and take off the linen garments he put on before he entered the Most Holy Place, and he is to leave them there. 24 He shall bathe himself with water in the sanctuary area and put on his regular garments. Then he shall come out and sacrifice the burnt offering for himself and the burnt offering for the people, to make atonement for himself and for the people. 25 He shall also burn the fat of the sin offering on the altar.

26 “The man who releases the goat as a scapegoat must wash his clothes and bathe himself with water; afterward he may come into the camp. 27 The bull and the goat for the sin offerings, whose blood was brought into the Most Holy Place to make atonement, must be taken outside the camp; their hides, flesh and intestines are to be burned up. 28 The man who burns them must wash his clothes and bathe himself with water; afterward he may come into the camp.

29 “This is to be a lasting ordinance for you: On the tenth day of the seventh month you must deny yourselves[c] and not do any work—whether native-born or a foreigner residing among you— 30 because on this day atonement will be made for you, to cleanse you. Then, before the LORD, you will be clean from all your sins. 31 It is a day of sabbath rest, and you must deny yourselves; it is a lasting ordinance. 32 The priest who is anointed and ordained to succeed his father as high priest is to make atonement. He is to put on the sacred linen garments 33 and make atonement for the Most Holy Place, for the tent of meeting and the altar, and for the priests and all the members of the community.

34 “This is to be a lasting ordinance for you: Atonement is to be made once a year for all the sins of the Israelites.”

And it was done, as the LORD commanded Moses.
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Jesus was the first perfected human being who became the Christ, of which we have the same capability.
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No He did not a perfected Human Being. He was God in the flesh. He did not become the Christ. He was Christ fromthe beginning.

I John 1:1-18 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
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Jesus was the first perfected human being who became the Christ, of which we have the same capability.
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No He did not a perfected Human Being. He was God in the flesh. He did not become the Christ. He was Christ fromthe beginning.

I John 1:1-18 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

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this^^^
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Jesus said that angels can't have sex, proving this book's falsehood...

The idea that Jesus said that angels cannot have sex is a very common objection to The Book of Enoch and the angelic understanding of Genesis 6 in general. However it is also a very common misinterpretation of what he actually said. Go Here to read what he said (Matt 22:30), and to study this topic. Beyond that misunderstanding, there is no doubt today that The Book of Enoch was one of the most widely accepted and revered books of Jewish culture and doctrine in the century leading up to Jesus' birth.

Matt 21:30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.
 Quoting: Salt


That passage does not say angels could not have sex, but that the ones in heaven did not marry.
 Quoting: Spitting Into The Wind


remember the biblical reason for marrying.

it is so two can become one (or man and woman become as one flesh) to procreate
 Quoting: Salt


They chose not to marry (have sex), not that they could not.
 Quoting: Spitting Into The Wind


Well, take into consideration the verse in Matthew 19:12....Jesus said that some eunuchs are born, some eunuchs are made through injury....and there are those who have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake....

A eunuch is a man who cannot have sex.
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OP, infallibilities do not exist.

Second, where do you get your weed?
"13013"
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Jesus was the first perfected human being who became the Christ, of which we have the same capability.
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Gospel of Thomas (infancy Gospels)
would show you to be wrong.

Even Jesus broke the Ten Commandments.

He was convicted by Pilate for
breaking the Sabbath by healing
people. Thou shalt keep the sabbath
holy. If a doctor goes on a house call
and administers meds to a patient,
is it not working to him ???

Gospel of Thomas also states Jesus
struck a Pharisee dead at 10 yrs old
for hitting him over the head with a
ruler for talking down to the
Pharisee. Thou shalt not kill.

I can see why these books were
not in the Bible.
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OP you want to know the real battle?

It is the satanic religion of works salvation vs God's grace salvation.

That is the supetnatural battle. That is where and why scripture got changed by the gnostic jewish people in alexandria as opposed to Antioch.

That is the real conspiracy.

Either salvation is Christ's merit or it is our own.

Look into the heretical tranformations that happened at the college of philo around 150 when the gnostics got a hold fo the Word of God and changed it into the alexandrian texts we have today and look how it differs to the received texts from Antioch.

Look at the supressions tried by the Catholics and all who came from her (protestants) against the anabaptists. Those who held true to the word of God and faith alone for salvation from the church of antioch faith to faith. Read foxes book fo martyrs and read what they did to those who held to the textus receptus and held to their bibles and shunned the "church"

That is where the true conspiracy is. It is as old as Adam and Eve making clothing out of fig leaves.

It is man trying and failing to cover their own sin when the only answer is the blood of Jesus Christ.

Try that conspiracy out and you will find that you have taken the real "RED PILL".
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as i posted earlier, i do not find the NT apocryphals, the gnostic texts, or any additional gospels other than the ones that made the NT canon, to be authentic.
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When the "nephilim" died at the flood, their spirit forms lived on, they still pass from human to human. Remember the movie with denzel washington? They can cause visions and hallucenations, also notice how many parents are killing their kids saying they had to release the "demons". or perhaps felt they were a demon themselves. I believe TPTB higher ups channel them directly, not to take away from UFOS and so called aliens. I think that TPTB in their "facilities" created "biological" body suits that the nephilim/demon spirits can inhabit, which is they grey alien form we see now.
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When the "nephilim" died at the flood, their spirit forms lived on, they still pass from human to human. Remember the movie with denzel washington? They can cause visions and hallucenations, also notice how many parents are killing their kids saying they had to release the "demons". or perhaps felt they were a demon themselves. I believe TPTB higher ups channel them directly, not to take away from UFOS and so called aliens. I think that TPTB in their "facilities" created "biological" body suits that the nephilim/demon spirits can inhabit, which is they grey alien form we see now.
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the intent of the flood was to kill all of the half-breeds. the fallen angels were not included in that lot.
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Gospel of Thomas also states Jesus
struck a Pharisee dead at 10 yrs old
for hitting him over the head with a
ruler for talking down to the
Pharisee. Thou shalt not kill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12779250


that's also not counting Jesus' murder
of his father's client who criticized
Joseph's carpentry work in front of
Jesus.

Imagine, saying something bad about
somebody's work and then falling dead.

Thou shalt not kill, (unless you
mock my family or me)
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Okay - I'm going to interject something here......something that seems to confirm what I have long suspected about the human race in general.....

All of these questions - when viewed through this particular lens....are very neatly answered.

I am NOT saying that I know this information is FACTUAL. Not at all. But it answers so very many questions....especially all of the existential ones.

I think it is possible that WE, (that would be us humans), are the fallen angels. This link I am sharing goes into this in great detail....

[link to angelfall.com]

The author uses mathematics - or Theomatics, as he calls it, to make his case.

Just read this....and think about all of these questions.....and determine for yourself if this may not be true.

I, for one, am leaning towards this conclusion.

The "sons of God" in the OT are angels. The NT tells us the He, (Jesus), gives us the power to become "sons of God."

This info has been presented on GLP in the past. And the evidence for it is very compelling.
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the intent of the flood was to kill all of the half-breeds. the fallen angels were not included in that lot.
 Quoting: Salt


fallen angels could fly

and if they ran out of land,
they could perch on top of
Noah's ark.
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Hey OP,

Good thread. The below link has some great information on this topic. Start with the Genesis six experiment.

[link to www.seedtheseries.com]

hf
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as i posted earlier, i do not find the NT apocryphals, the gnostic texts, or any additional gospels other than the ones that made the NT canon, to be authentic.
 Quoting: Salt


Excellent thought provoking thread, glp at its best, as always good job salt!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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Gospel of Thomas also states Jesus
struck a Pharisee dead at 10 yrs old
for hitting him over the head with a
ruler for talking down to the
Pharisee. Thou shalt not kill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12779250


that's also not counting Jesus' murder
of his father's client who criticized
Joseph's carpentry work in front of
Jesus.

Imagine, saying something bad about
somebody's work and then falling dead.

Thou shalt not kill, (unless you
mock my family or me)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12779250



And so the endtime deception begins.
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Gospel of Thomas also states Jesus
struck a Pharisee dead at 10 yrs old
for hitting him over the head with a
ruler for talking down to the
Pharisee. Thou shalt not kill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12779250


that's also not counting Jesus' murder
of his father's client who criticized
Joseph's carpentry work in front of
Jesus.

Imagine, saying something bad about
somebody's work and then falling dead.

Thou shalt not kill, (unless you
mock my family or me)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12779250



And so the endtime deception begins.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4352201


lol

you act this just happened ???
The Dead Sea Scrolls have been
around a long time. Some of what was
found in the DSS was also found
printed in the Ethiopian Bible
already.

This has been going on for centuries.
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Okay - I'm going to interject something here......something that seems to confirm what I have long suspected about the human race in general.....

All of these questions - when viewed through this particular lens....are very neatly answered.

I am NOT saying that I know this information is FACTUAL. Not at all. But it answers so very many questions....especially all of the existential ones.

I think it is possible that WE, (that would be us humans), are the fallen angels. This link I am sharing goes into this in great detail....

[link to angelfall.com]

The author uses mathematics - or Theomatics, as he calls it, to make his case.

Just read this....and think about all of these questions.....and determine for yourself if this may not be true.

I, for one, am leaning towards this conclusion.

The "sons of God" in the OT are angels. The NT tells us the He, (Jesus), gives us the power to become "sons of God."

This info has been presented on GLP in the past. And the evidence for it is very compelling.
 Quoting: Dried Up Hag


Adam was a son of God. All descendents after are sons of men. Angels are sons of God. Adam was a type of angel before he became a man. Adam transgressed (fell) so in that way, he can be considered a fallen angel.

The difference between Adam's fall and the other angels fall is huge.

Adam fell because of an already fallen angel's trickery.

The other fallen angels came up with their evil ideas on their own and are condemned.
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as i posted earlier, i do not find the NT apocryphals, the gnostic texts, or any additional gospels other than the ones that made the NT canon, to be authentic.
 Quoting: Salt


Excellent thought provoking thread, glp at its best, as always good job salt!
 Quoting: shadasonic


thanks!

sun
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When the "nephilim" died at the flood, their spirit forms lived on, they still pass from human to human. Remember the movie with denzel washington? They can cause visions and hallucenations, also notice how many parents are killing their kids saying they had to release the "demons". or perhaps felt they were a demon themselves. I believe TPTB higher ups channel them directly, not to take away from UFOS and so called aliens. I think that TPTB in their "facilities" created "biological" body suits that the nephilim/demon spirits can inhabit, which is they grey alien form we see now.
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the intent of the flood was to kill all of the half-breeds. the fallen angels were not included in that lot.
 Quoting: Salt


Thats who I meant, sorry. I remember reading someone that there spirits would continue to wander the earth causing confusion amoungst man
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Hey OP,

Good thread. The below link has some great information on this topic. Start with the Genesis six experiment.

[link to www.seedtheseries.com]

hf
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most interesting, thanks!
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OP, infallibilities do not exist.
 Quoting: Illuminatvs Primvs


according to the Roman Catholic Church.
Their first ecumenical council after the
council of Trent claimed that the Pope
was infallible.
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"polluted mankinds DNA"

Mankind = kind of man = white people. The black man is the original MAN. Hence the Black gene being dominant and the white gene (mankind) being recessive (weaker). Just stating the facts. This alien blood mixing shit doesn't apply to blacks.


Carry on.
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Of course he is... Now if he cold just act like the super man he is and make Africa less of a swill pool. Come on, original man, lead us to glory!!!
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Okay - I'm going to interject something here......something that seems to confirm what I have long suspected about the human race in general.....

All of these questions - when viewed through this particular lens....are very neatly answered.

I am NOT saying that I know this information is FACTUAL. Not at all. But it answers so very many questions....especially all of the existential ones.

I think it is possible that WE, (that would be us humans), are the fallen angels. This link I am sharing goes into this in great detail....

[link to angelfall.com]

The author uses mathematics - or Theomatics, as he calls it, to make his case.

Just read this....and think about all of these questions.....and determine for yourself if this may not be true.

I, for one, am leaning towards this conclusion.

The "sons of God" in the OT are angels. The NT tells us the He, (Jesus), gives us the power to become "sons of God."

This info has been presented on GLP in the past. And the evidence for it is very compelling.
 Quoting: Dried Up Hag


Adam was a son of God. All descendents after are sons of men. Angels are sons of God. Adam was a type of angel before he became a man. Adam transgressed (fell) so in that way, he can be considered a fallen angel.

The difference between Adam's fall and the other angels fall is huge.

Adam fell because of an already fallen angel's trickery.

The other fallen angels came up with their evil ideas on their own and are condemned.
 Quoting: Salt


Consider the parable of the prodigal son. The kingdom of heaven is likened unto this prodigal son.

We are the prodigal son. Do you remember rejecting your father and walking away from his kingdom? And the desire for that Father for the return of that son?

No. We consider that we are born and must find our way to God. The parable of the Prodigal Son is that of a child that must find their WAY BACK to the Father.

Back from where? If we are all born into sin....then what sin was it we committed?

I, for one - don't recall ever asking to be born....and ESPECIALLY - I never asked, (to my memory) to be born into sin. So how is it fair that I will be held accountable to sin....when I was born into it without, supposedly, my consent?

It makes sense if I figure that I was born onto this earth FROM a state of sin.

And remember the scripture that says that hell is a place reserved for Satan and his angels.
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"polluted mankinds DNA"

Mankind = kind of man = white people. The black man is the original MAN. Hence the Black gene being dominant and the white gene (mankind) being recessive (weaker). Just stating the facts. This alien blood mixing shit doesn't apply to blacks.


Carry on.
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Of course he is... Now if he cold just act like the super man he is and make Africa less of a swill pool. Come on, original man, lead us to glory!!!
 Quoting: derp 10775138


in another scared text called the book
of Adam and Eve

there was a river inside Eden that
turned any human's skin white.

that was left out of the canon as well :)
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Okay - I'm going to interject something here......something that seems to confirm what I have long suspected about the human race in general.....

All of these questions - when viewed through this particular lens....are very neatly answered.

I am NOT saying that I know this information is FACTUAL. Not at all. But it answers so very many questions....especially all of the existential ones.

I think it is possible that WE, (that would be us humans), are the fallen angels. This link I am sharing goes into this in great detail....

[link to angelfall.com]

The author uses mathematics - or Theomatics, as he calls it, to make his case.

Just read this....and think about all of these questions.....and determine for yourself if this may not be true.

I, for one, am leaning towards this conclusion.

The "sons of God" in the OT are angels. The NT tells us the He, (Jesus), gives us the power to become "sons of God."

This info has been presented on GLP in the past. And the evidence for it is very compelling.
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hum this theory is very interesting but because there is a but lol we fall from where exactly? space is the most credible answer just looking how our bodies are constructed and the materials in them.

and for what reason?
we don't know for sure.

i mean how would you explain this to a child?
because we are born from our parents and our parents from theirs etc

nobody remember anything about a supposed fall from somewhere, do you see what i mean?

if you chose to jump from one condition to another, you had a choice, you will deal with the consequences.


we didn't have this choice so basically it's like saying free will don't exist for individuals and we are just the consequences of someone/something else choice whom had free will and the possibility to change his/her/it condition.

if you think like this and compared it to what the religious books are saying, we humans are all satan children...

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Jesus was the first perfected human being who became the Christ, of which we have the same capability.
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on no he wasn't. He was a christ before he incarnated here and there are many of them, for the universe is very old. but you are right, eveny one has the potential. Jesus, as Michael of Nebadon does set up the fancy schooling system for your progress, but being a Son of God, comes from the FATHER FRAGMENT, which comes FROM the UNIVERSAL FATHER. Basically any thinking free willed being in one way or another is a Son of God. Many of the beings in the Ot were not angels at all, but advanced PEOPLE from more advanced worlds. That would include the ones in the story of Sodom and Gomorra. Your bible aternately calls them MEN and Angels. They were PEOPLE.
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Okay - I'm going to interject something here......something that seems to confirm what I have long suspected about the human race in general.....

All of these questions - when viewed through this particular lens....are very neatly answered.

I am NOT saying that I know this information is FACTUAL. Not at all. But it answers so very many questions....especially all of the existential ones.

I think it is possible that WE, (that would be us humans), are the fallen angels. This link I am sharing goes into this in great detail....

[link to angelfall.com]

The author uses mathematics - or Theomatics, as he calls it, to make his case.

Just read this....and think about all of these questions.....and determine for yourself if this may not be true.

I, for one, am leaning towards this conclusion.

The "sons of God" in the OT are angels. The NT tells us the He, (Jesus), gives us the power to become "sons of God."

This info has been presented on GLP in the past. And the evidence for it is very compelling.
 Quoting: Dried Up Hag


Adam was a son of God. All descendents after are sons of men. Angels are sons of God. Adam was a type of angel before he became a man. Adam transgressed (fell) so in that way, he can be considered a fallen angel.

The difference between Adam's fall and the other angels fall is huge.

Adam fell because of an already fallen angel's trickery.

The other fallen angels came up with their evil ideas on their own and are condemned.
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Consider the parable of the prodigal son. The kingdom of heaven is likened unto this prodigal son.

We are the prodigal son. Do you remember rejecting your father and walking away from his kingdom? And the desire for that Father for the return of that son?

No. We consider that we are born and must find our way to God. The parable of the Prodigal Son is that of a child that must find their WAY BACK to the Father.

Back from where? If we are all born into sin....then what sin was it we committed?

I, for one - don't recall ever asking to be born....and ESPECIALLY - I never asked, (to my memory) to be born into sin. So how is it fair that I will be held accountable to sin....when I was born into it without, supposedly, my consent?

It makes sense if I figure that I was born onto this earth FROM a state of sin.

And remember the scripture that says that hell is a place reserved for Satan and his angels.
 Quoting: Dried Up Hag


The problem with the original sin is that it caused such a profound change that it will take certain things to happen to rectify. for one, many years must pass, and two, God had to come here in the flesh as a man and die for our atonement, and three, Jesus will have to come back and gather us all up and take us home.

It's not that we sinned, but that we are under the "curse" of Adam and Eve's fall. (we sin all the time, but not like the original sin)

And, I agree that hell is a place reserved for Satan and his hosts, and the false prophet, and death. not intended for humans, and i doubt many will end up there, unless they look Jesus in His face and still continue to reject Him.
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SALT, the original SIN is a complete bullshit LIE. Man each sins or not, but there is not ORIGINAL SIN that befalls all men. How completely SILLY in fact.

New souls are STUPID, because they don't know much, but there is no such thing as original sin, that is the creation of the antichrist beings to cause a guilt trip of man. God does not create in sin. But man sure commits it. Some men I should say. SIN is knowing gods laws and breaking them anyway. And to break a law on purpose you have to have known the law to break it, so that cannot be any sort of original sin. Its a silly concept, and a crude and hideous one.





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