MUSLIMS ONLY WORSHIP ONE GOD: GOD OF ADAM,ABRAHAM,MOSES,DAVID,SOLOMON,JESUS AND MOHAMMAD

Certainly you would agree that following Jesus' teachings ( as you have professed) is a 'part' of being a Christian...


Perhaps you just don't like the label?
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Alesiah, what part of that article did you perceive as having Christianity mixed in it? I missed it apparently.

The teachings of j'sus are not new. Do you actually believe that the Sages never taught what j'sus taught on the sermon on the mount.

Do you not recall that being a christian involves believing j'sus is god? Isn't that very belief the core of christianity?

First off let me throw a wrench in your spokes... Danial isn't a prophet, he is a dreamer of dreams. The difference is Prophets were to wake Israel up drawing them back to obedience with Hashem. Daniel dreamed dreams that make little or no sense to me. Alesiah connects the dots pretty well.

Second, Do Not take verses out of the bible to satisfy what you want it to say.

Daniel 8:19. And he said to me, "Behold I am letting you know what will be at the end of the fury, for it is the end of the time.

20. The ram that you saw, the one with the horns, represents the kings of Media and Persia.

21. And the he-goat is the king of Greece, and the great horn that is between his eyes-that is the first king.

22. And the broken one, in whose stead stood four, represents four kingdoms [that] will rise from a nation, but not with its strength.

23. And at the end of their kingdom, when the transgressors have been destroyed, there will arise a brazen-faced king who understands riddles.

24. And his power will become strong, but not through his strength, and he will destroy wondrously, and he will prosper and accomplish, and he will destroy the mighty and the people of the holy ones.

25. And through his intellect, he will cause the deceit in his hand to prosper, and in his heart he will become proud, and in tranquility he will destroy many, and over the Prince of princes he will stand, and without strength he will be broken.


Since this isn't my area, I don't know. But what I do know is you can not connect it to j'sus.

Welcome back!

Re: Christianity- is there a rule book other than the Bible? ( which Says Jesus is the son)

Re: alesiah- she could always quote some sage ( instead of Jesus) if that is who she believes and follows...



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Are you sure you want to attach j'sus to Psalm 22? If you read through verses 2-27 (the verses after that speaks of a future where all of the world will worship HaShem alone and no other, and thus does not relate to any one individual) you will see why "pierce" or "lion" doesn't make a speck of difference!

So can you accept that this entire Psalm is of the Moshiach? Because if you do, then you need to also accept, based on Psalm 22, that:

1) Jesus declares that he is not G-d, but that he loves and worships the one G-d. (2-3)
2) Jesus declares his defectiveness and his unworthiness before G-d. (6)
3) Jesus acknowledges that the Patriarchs were superior to him. (4-6)
4) Jesus declares that it was the non-jewish people, the enemies of Israel, who plotted against him and sought his destruction. (12)
5) Jesus didn't want to die and begged G-d over and over again while on the cross to get him out of there! (1-2,11,19,20,21)
6) Jesus cried out to the Jewish people to serve HaShem only, to glorify Him alone, that every jewish should praise HaShem as their One and only G-d.(23)
7) Jesus admits to having made a vow, and declares he will one day atone for that. (25)

If you want this "piercing" to be Jesus, fine! But then you also have to remove all supernatural attributes and deification from him as well because that is what this psalm actually does.

Since Christians only accept what the christian bible says she uses their book to make her points. As I do occasionally.



Not that I'm aware of.

lol- more of your rules?


That verse makes a wonderful point - perhaps you missed it:

You say you will know the messiah when He brings world peace.

Daniel says that the evil one will destroy many under the guise of peace.

Who should we believe?...


Matthew 10:34
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace...




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Hmm...

She quotes Him -

Professes to believe Him

And even praises Him:




She seems more Christian than most ...


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Taking scripture out of context distorts it's meaning and I fail to see what power you see in verse 25

Daniel 8:25
25. And through his intellect, he will cause the deceit in his hand to prosper, and in his heart he will become proud, and in tranquility he will destroy many, and over the Prince of princes he will stand, and without strength he will be broken.

No I didn't miss anything....

I assure you, you have taken what she has said in the wrong way. You praise a child for helping a person in need, does that mean you worship him as god, or even consider yourself as part of his/her family?

Which is it?


Do you see?

Or did you miss something?



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Haven't you been paying attention?

Jesus told us to pray to His father. Not Him.

Alesiah knows this.

Why don't you?


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Daniel 8:25
25. And through his intellect, he will cause the deceit in his hand to prosper, and in his heart he will become proud, and in tranquility he will destroy many, and over the Prince of princes he will stand, and without strength he will be broken.

No I didn't miss anything....

Perhaps you should take a good look at that verse and tell me you still want it to be j'sus.

Last Edited by Shalhevet on 04/01/2012 09:40 PM

It has nothing to do with Jesus.


Why do you think it does?



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I don't accept the NT as scripture, so it is irrelevant to me.

I don't, I had lost track of the original post. Thanks for beating it into my head.

Anyway since Daniel is not my specialty, I can only take a good guess and say it's Obama. Sounds a lot like him anyway.

Last Edited by Shalhevet on 04/01/2012 09:55 PM

Can't argue with ^that^...

What a wonderful segue opportunity!!...


Thread: Pres. C. Arthur served for 42 mo. as predicted by REVELATION! Both he and OBAMA were British citizens at birth! (Guess what’s next)


Thanks!


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Well, there's a big difference between quoting scriptures from the NT and professing.

The word profess means to affirm one's faith in or allegiance to (a religion or set of beliefs).

It's messianic site..
Here's more on GLP from that website...
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

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(...that is...esoterically speaking and regarding the EGO'S)

Is this a quote or a profession?....

"JC was expressing he was NOT the Father!!"( quoting you)



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Well, friend all I can tell you is that "praising" JC is different from worshiping him. I've never worshiped JC. Matter of fact I was quite shocked when I found out that's what the church was doing.

Praise means expressing warm approval or admiration of:
"we can't praise Christine enough".
The expression of approval or admiration for someone or something:
"the audience was full of praise"

I stopped going to church when I found out the members were worshiping JC, because I know it breaks the First Commandment.

Last Edited by Alesiah on 04/01/2012 11:26 PM

I don't really know where you are going with this.
I'm attempting to show JC knew he wasn't G-d...
I can see you may be agitated with me if you don't agree..
We can just agree to disagree and move forward..

Amen.

Praise is up to you.

He never asked for it.

Nor did He ask for worship,

He said to pray to His Fsther...


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Of course He knew He wasn't God - he said so himself.

Does that make us both Christian because we agree with what Jesus taught?


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I pray/worship G-d only.. HaShem/Allah is the G-d of JC.
HaShem is the Hebrew expression for G-d.
Allah is the Muslim expression for G-d.
Abraham's sons Isaac and Ishmael worshiped the same G-d..

Am I J.ewish or Muslim because I'm in agreement with some of the same quotes/teachings as Moses and Muhammad?

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MOHAMED WAS GAY ALLAH IS GOD OF THE MOON AND THE STORIES OF QORAN ARE ALL WRONG EARTH IS FLAT AND SITTING ON A BIG WHALE AND THE STORY OF ABRAHAM IS WRONG QORAN SAYS ISHMAEL WAS GOING TO SACREFIED INSTEAD OF ISSIAC SO MY FRIEND QORAN WAS WROTE BY A HUMAN WITH THE HELP OF THE DEVIL JESUS IS GOD AMEN WAKE UP AND UNDERSTAND QORAN GOOD