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MUSLIMS ONLY WORSHIP ONE GOD: GOD OF ADAM,ABRAHAM,MOSES,DAVID,SOLOMON,JESUS AND MOHAMMAD

 
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I don't recall asking a question.




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You made a statement... 'You say...'



Where do you get your information?



Again- perhaps you are mistaken about Jesus.




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I trust the subject has now changed to if prophets commit a sin?

If yes, answer is no. Prophets do not commit sin.
Jesus was a man mortal and a messenger sent by GOD.

In addition, every nation, tribe has been sent a messenger from amongs themselves. This so they will not have an excuse on judgment day that they never recieved a the word.

You think that Buddha was a messenger too. And after much time people took him up as some to worship with his statue idol everywhere

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I trust the subject has now changed to if prophets commit a sin?

If yes, answer is no. Prophets do not commit sin.
Jesus was a man mortal and a messenger sent by GOD.

In addition, every nation, tribe has been sent a messenger from amongs themselves. This so they will not have an excuse on judgment day that they never recieved a the word.

You think that Buddha was a messenger too. And after much time people took him up as some to worship with his statue idol everywhere

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Prophets do not commit sin.
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Christian scripture agrees that Jesus (indeed a prophet, teacher , etc) was 'without sin'.

Ms Shalhevet seems to disagree.

In fact, she disagrees so vehementy that she resorted to calling Jesus a 'robot'

But- according to Christian scripture, she will be forgiven.



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Prophets do not commit sin.
 Quoting: Mm 13097518


Christian scripture agrees that Jesus (indeed a prophet, teacher , etc) was 'without sin'.

Ms Shalhevet seems to disagree.

In fact, she disagrees so vehementy that she resorted to calling Jesus a 'robot'

But- according to Christian scripture, she will be forgiven.

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Well everyone including me has a opinion.

Out of all 4 or 5 only one way is right.

Did prophet Moses sin?
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Prophets do not commit sin.
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Christian scripture agrees that Jesus (indeed a prophet, teacher , etc) was 'without sin'.

Ms Shalhevet seems to disagree.

In fact, she disagrees so vehementy that she resorted to calling Jesus a 'robot'

But- according to Christian scripture, she will be forgiven.

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Well everyone including me has a opinion.

Out of all 4 or 5 only one way is right.

Did prophet Moses sin?
 Quoting: Mm 13097518




Yes-

Will he be forgiven?





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Prophets do not commit sin.
 Quoting: Mm 13097518


Christian scripture agrees that Jesus (indeed a prophet, teacher , etc) was 'without sin'.

Ms Shalhevet seems to disagree.

In fact, she disagrees so vehementy that she resorted to calling Jesus a 'robot'

But- according to Christian scripture, she will be forgiven.

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Well everyone including me has a opinion.

Out of all 4 or 5 only one way is right.

Did prophet Moses sin?
 Quoting: Mm 13097518


In my opinion he did not sin either.
His intention wAs to resolve a dispute ... He had good motive and unintentional killed a man. It was not something he wanted to do.
It was an accident. Even with Adam he simply forgot the command to not ear.

All these were not sin. Rather evidence that they were mortal men with ability to make unintentional error.

My question to you however... You say Jesus didn't sin ... But you say Moses did. Why do you say that.

In my opinion no prophets committed sin.



Yes-

Will he be forgiven?





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In my opinion he did not sin either.
His intention wAs to resolve a dispute ... He had good motive and unintentional killed a man. It was not something he wanted to do.
It was an accident. Even with Adam he simply forgot the command to not ear.

All these were not sin. Rather evidence that they were mortal men with ability to make unintentional error.

My question to you however... You say Jesus didn't sin ... But you say Moses did. Why do you say that.

In my opinion no prophets committed sin.



 Quoting: Mm 13097518



The real question:


Why ridicule someone for what they believe? (What is the gain???)

Why would Shalhevet mock Jesus just because she think it's impossible? (Seriously- why???)

You believe Moses with without sin-

... and you should not be mocked for your belief.



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In my opinion he did not sin either.
His intention wAs to resolve a dispute ... He had good motive and unintentional killed a man. It was not something he wanted to do.
It was an accident. Even with Adam he simply forgot the command to not ear.

All these were not sin. Rather evidence that they were mortal men with ability to make unintentional error.

My question to you however... You say Jesus didn't sin ... But you say Moses did. Why do you say that.

In my opinion no prophets committed sin.

 Quoting: Mm 13097518


The real question:

Why ridicule someone for what they believe? (What is the gain???)

Why would Shalhevet mock Jesus just because she think it's impossible? (Seriously- why???)
You believe Moses with without sin-
... and you should not be mocked for your belief.
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I will leave that matter with you and shalhevet.
But in my view no prophets committed a sin.
They were all good god fearing men
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In my opinion he did not sin either.
His intention wAs to resolve a dispute ... He had good motive and unintentional killed a man. It was not something he wanted to do.
It was an accident. Even with Adam he simply forgot the command to not ear.

All these were not sin. Rather evidence that they were mortal men with ability to make unintentional error.

My question to you however... You say Jesus didn't sin ... But you say Moses did. Why do you say that.

In my opinion no prophets committed sin.

 Quoting: Mm 13097518


The real question:

Why ridicule someone for what they believe? (What is the gain???)

Why would Shalhevet mock Jesus just because she think it's impossible? (Seriously- why???)
You believe Moses with without sin-
... and you should not be mocked for your belief.
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I will leave that matter with you and shalhevet.
But in my view no prophets committed a sin.
They were all good god fearing men
 Quoting: Mm 13097518



The questions were rhetorical-


There is only one reason why someone would mock the beliefs of others.





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If at any point during the past or present you felt I was mocking you too or anyone else.... I apologize

It was not my intent to do so.

At times I illustrate to get my point across.
At may seem as mocking but it's not my intent to do that.

Sorry if I did
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If at any point during the past or present you felt I was mocking you too or anyone else.... I apologize

It was not my intent to do so.

At times I illustrate to get my point across.
At may seem as mocking but it's not my intent to do that.

Sorry if I did
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Likewise- Believe what you want (and take some lighthearted fun)

If you want to know more about Christian beliefs (or why we believe it)- just ask.



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One more question:


Which is more important-

Our individual beliefs?

Or,

How we treat each other?



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One more question:


Which is more important-

Our individual beliefs?

Or,

How we treat each other?



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How we treat each other?
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One more question:


Which is more important-

Our individual beliefs?

Or,

How we treat each other?



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How we treat each other?
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Good Morning all..
I trust everyone had a great weekend.

With permission to answer to the above....it is in our believe to treat each other with kindess...regardless of anything else....Prophet Muhammed(PBUH) in his last sermon before he left....said as follows and this does not limit to relgion, belief, race, colour.etc...

" All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves.

Remember, one day you will appear before ALLAH and answer your deeds. So beware, do not stray from the path of righteousness after I am gone"

In general, we are all equal...except by piety and good action.

Peace
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One more question:


Which is more important-

Our individual beliefs?

Or,

How we treat each other?



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How we treat each other?
 Quoting: Mm 13097518



Good Morning all..
I trust everyone had a great weekend.

With permission to answer to the above....it is in our believe to treat each other with kindess...regardless of anything else....Prophet Muhammed(PBUH) in his last sermon before he left....said as follows and this does not limit to relgion, belief, race, colour.etc...

" All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves.

Remember, one day you will appear before ALLAH and answer your deeds. So beware, do not stray from the path of righteousness after I am gone"

In general, we are all equal...except by piety and good action.

Peace
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30And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

31And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
(Mark 12)


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One more question:


Which is more important-

Our individual beliefs?

Or,

How we treat each other?



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How we treat each other?
 Quoting: Mm 13097518



Good Morning all..
I trust everyone had a great weekend.

With permission to answer to the above....it is in our believe to treat each other with kindess...regardless of anything else....Prophet Muhammed(PBUH) in his last sermon before he left....said as follows and this does not limit to relgion, belief, race, colour.etc...

" All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves.

Remember, one day you will appear before ALLAH and answer your deeds. So beware, do not stray from the path of righteousness after I am gone"

In general, we are all equal...except by piety and good action.

Peace
 Quoting: Truth 1307494



30And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

31And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
(Mark 12)


hf
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Would then this be a break through that we are in agreement?

:)

Peace
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How we treat each other?
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Good Morning all..
I trust everyone had a great weekend.

With permission to answer to the above....it is in our believe to treat each other with kindess...regardless of anything else....Prophet Muhammed(PBUH) in his last sermon before he left....said as follows and this does not limit to relgion, belief, race, colour.etc...

" All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves.

Remember, one day you will appear before ALLAH and answer your deeds. So beware, do not stray from the path of righteousness after I am gone"

In general, we are all equal...except by piety and good action.

Peace
 Quoting: Truth 1307494



30And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

31And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
(Mark 12)


hf
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Would then this be a break through that we are in agreement?

:)

Peace
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It seems that we are.

Perhaps the agreement begins to break down when we start to define 'good action'....


20Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink:...

21Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
(Rom 12)



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Good Morning all..
I trust everyone had a great weekend.

With permission to answer to the above....it is in our believe to treat each other with kindess...regardless of anything else....Prophet Muhammed(PBUH) in his last sermon before he left....said as follows and this does not limit to relgion, belief, race, colour.etc...

" All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves.

Remember, one day you will appear before ALLAH and answer your deeds. So beware, do not stray from the path of righteousness after I am gone"

In general, we are all equal...except by piety and good action.

Peace
 Quoting: Truth 1307494



30And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

31And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
(Mark 12)


hf
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Would then this be a break through that we are in agreement?

:)

Peace
 Quoting: Truth 1307494



It seems that we are.

Perhaps the agreement begins to break down when we start to define 'good action'....


20Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink:...

21Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
(Rom 12)


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I dont have any issues with the above...so am not sure why our agreeing breaks down....the above is pretty standard.

....Unless you are saying...that when you see somone oppressing another person...over and over and over again...that you will just stand there and do nothing but wish kind words towards the evil -doer...
In this situation I'm commanded to stand-up even if the opposition is bigger then myself...especially when seeing someone other then me being oppressed.

Jesus did this NO? he did stand up and didnt change his way to please others..he stood-up...he asked his companions to stand

Does this break down over agreement?
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30And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

31And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
(Mark 12)


hf
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Would then this be a break through that we are in agreement?

:)

Peace
 Quoting: Truth 1307494



It seems that we are.

Perhaps the agreement begins to break down when we start to define 'good action'....


20Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink:...

21Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
(Rom 12)


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I dont have any issues with the above...so am not sure why our agreeing breaks down....the above is pretty standard.

....Unless you are saying...that when you see somone oppressing another person...over and over and over again...that you will just stand there and do nothing but wish kind words towards the evil -doer...
In this situation I'm commanded to stand-up even if the opposition is bigger then myself...especially when seeing someone other then me being oppressed.

Jesus did this NO? he did stand up and didnt change his way to please others..he stood-up...he asked his companions to stand

Does this break down over agreement?
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He did stand up-

but he did not strike back...


John 15:13
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.





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Would then this be a break through that we are in agreement?

:)

Peace
 Quoting: Truth 1307494



It seems that we are.

Perhaps the agreement begins to break down when we start to define 'good action'....


20Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink:...

21Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
(Rom 12)


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I dont have any issues with the above...so am not sure why our agreeing breaks down....the above is pretty standard.

....Unless you are saying...that when you see somone oppressing another person...over and over and over again...that you will just stand there and do nothing but wish kind words towards the evil -doer...
In this situation I'm commanded to stand-up even if the opposition is bigger then myself...especially when seeing someone other then me being oppressed.

Jesus did this NO? he did stand up and didnt change his way to please others..he stood-up...he asked his companions to stand

Does this break down over agreement?
 Quoting: Truth 1307494



He did stand up-

but he did not strike back...


John 15:13
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.


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I'm granted the following to stand-up against oppression and have permissision to fight a defensive battle...and cease once the evil doer stops.

If someone is hitting you and hitting you or your mother, your father, your sister, etc...or anyone else
for no just reason....as a GOD fearing man..you need to step in and stop the evil-doer....and this may mean a defensive battle...until he/she ceases to oppress...

Are we in disagreement here? Y/N?

IN addition, you may wish to take note...correct me if Im wrong..is he not to return and lead in battle against the anti-christ?

That is a battle...in which a strike will be required...
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It seems that we are.

Perhaps the agreement begins to break down when we start to define 'good action'....


20Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink:...

21Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
(Rom 12)


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I dont have any issues with the above...so am not sure why our agreeing breaks down....the above is pretty standard.

....Unless you are saying...that when you see somone oppressing another person...over and over and over again...that you will just stand there and do nothing but wish kind words towards the evil -doer...
In this situation I'm commanded to stand-up even if the opposition is bigger then myself...especially when seeing someone other then me being oppressed.

Jesus did this NO? he did stand up and didnt change his way to please others..he stood-up...he asked his companions to stand

Does this break down over agreement?
 Quoting: Truth 1307494



He did stand up-

but he did not strike back...


John 15:13
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.


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I'm granted the following to stand-up against oppression and have permissision to fight a defensive battle...and cease once the evil doer stops.

If someone is hitting you and hitting you or your mother, your father, your sister, etc...or anyone else
for no just reason....as a GOD fearing man..you need to step in and stop the evil-doer....and this may mean a defensive battle...until he/she ceases to oppress...

Are we in disagreement here? Y/N?

IN addition, you may wish to take note...correct me if Im wrong..is he not to return and lead in battle against the anti-christ?

That is a battle...in which a strike will be required...
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Re: step-in- Yes- step in and turn the other cheek when struck. Jesus made this very clear. (so it seems we may disagree)


Re: Battle-

Humble opinion: The battle against the antichrist has been ongoing and will soon be over...

12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. (Eph6)

The antichrist will be destroyed- but not by human hand:

Daniel 8:25
...he shall be broken without hand.




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I dont have any issues with the above...so am not sure why our agreeing breaks down....the above is pretty standard.

....Unless you are saying...that when you see somone oppressing another person...over and over and over again...that you will just stand there and do nothing but wish kind words towards the evil -doer...
In this situation I'm commanded to stand-up even if the opposition is bigger then myself...especially when seeing someone other then me being oppressed.

Jesus did this NO? he did stand up and didnt change his way to please others..he stood-up...he asked his companions to stand

Does this break down over agreement?
 Quoting: Truth 1307494



He did stand up-

but he did not strike back...


John 15:13
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.


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I'm granted the following to stand-up against oppression and have permissision to fight a defensive battle...and cease once the evil doer stops.

If someone is hitting you and hitting you or your mother, your father, your sister, etc...or anyone else
for no just reason....as a GOD fearing man..you need to step in and stop the evil-doer....and this may mean a defensive battle...until he/she ceases to oppress...

Are we in disagreement here? Y/N?

IN addition, you may wish to take note...correct me if Im wrong..is he not to return and lead in battle against the anti-christ?

That is a battle...in which a strike will be required...
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Re: step-in- Yes- step in and turn the other cheek when struck. Jesus made this very clear. (so it seems we may disagree)


Re: Battle-

Humble opinion: The battle against the antichrist has been ongoing and will soon be over...

12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. (Eph6)

The antichrist will be destroyed- but not by human hand:

Daniel 8:25
...he shall be broken without hand.


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While you have only one option to work with...I have two

1) Either I forgive
or
2) Or eye for an eye

Should I exceed my limit I have sinned.

I am commanded to stand up against tyranny, oppression etc..
and realistically speaking in todays time and world...you may come to a point where you turn the other cheek...but still the oppression continues...thus you have done nothing to help the oppressed.

But again,,, we can agree to peacefuly disagree
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He did stand up-

but he did not strike back...


John 15:13
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.


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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


I'm granted the following to stand-up against oppression and have permissision to fight a defensive battle...and cease once the evil doer stops.

If someone is hitting you and hitting you or your mother, your father, your sister, etc...or anyone else
for no just reason....as a GOD fearing man..you need to step in and stop the evil-doer....and this may mean a defensive battle...until he/she ceases to oppress...

Are we in disagreement here? Y/N?

IN addition, you may wish to take note...correct me if Im wrong..is he not to return and lead in battle against the anti-christ?

That is a battle...in which a strike will be required...
 Quoting: Truth 1307494


Re: step-in- Yes- step in and turn the other cheek when struck. Jesus made this very clear. (so it seems we may disagree)


Re: Battle-

Humble opinion: The battle against the antichrist has been ongoing and will soon be over...

12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. (Eph6)

The antichrist will be destroyed- but not by human hand:

Daniel 8:25
...he shall be broken without hand.


/|\
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051



While you have only one option to work with...I have two

1) Either I forgive
or
2) Or eye for an eye

Should I exceed my limit I have sinned.

I am commanded to stand up against tyranny, oppression etc..
and realistically speaking in todays time and world...you may come to a point where you turn the other cheek...but still the oppression continues...thus you have done nothing to help the oppressed.

But again,,, we can agree to peacefuly disagree
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Sometimes,

When trying to help the 'oppressed' , you yourself become the oppresser...


Do any countries come to mind?




?
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I'm granted the following to stand-up against oppression and have permissision to fight a defensive battle...and cease once the evil doer stops.

If someone is hitting you and hitting you or your mother, your father, your sister, etc...or anyone else
for no just reason....as a GOD fearing man..you need to step in and stop the evil-doer....and this may mean a defensive battle...until he/she ceases to oppress...

Are we in disagreement here? Y/N?

IN addition, you may wish to take note...correct me if Im wrong..is he not to return and lead in battle against the anti-christ?

That is a battle...in which a strike will be required...
 Quoting: Truth 1307494


Re: step-in- Yes- step in and turn the other cheek when struck. Jesus made this very clear. (so it seems we may disagree)


Re: Battle-

Humble opinion: The battle against the antichrist has been ongoing and will soon be over...

12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. (Eph6)

The antichrist will be destroyed- but not by human hand:

Daniel 8:25
...he shall be broken without hand.


/|\
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051



While you have only one option to work with...I have two

1) Either I forgive
or
2) Or eye for an eye

Should I exceed my limit I have sinned.

I am commanded to stand up against tyranny, oppression etc..
and realistically speaking in todays time and world...you may come to a point where you turn the other cheek...but still the oppression continues...thus you have done nothing to help the oppressed.

But again,,, we can agree to peacefuly disagree
 Quoting: Truth 1307494


Sometimes,

When trying to help the 'oppressed' , you yourself become the oppresser...

Do any countries come to mind?

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Will not comment on that...but...

its a tricky situation and you need to STAND-UP and not be a coward.

Easy for you and me to discuss though.
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Turning the cheek will work at times and I have this option.
But on many times during present state of the world...you and I both know this does not work and the oppression continues blindly...

So how does you tactic work...it may make you noble...but does nothing for the person in need who suffer from unjust
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Turning the cheek will work at times and I have this option.
But on many times during present state of the world...you and I both know this does not work and the oppression continues blindly...

So how does you tactic work...it may make you noble...but does nothing for the person in need who suffer from unjust
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Sadly we have a system that continues to grow and grow-

so large in fact that it is blind to the fact that it is the oppressor...

perhaps even you do not see or feel this oppression-

but some of us do...




Elections indeed have consequences.


But 'playing God' is much more dangerous.




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Turning the cheek will work at times and I have this option.
But on many times during present state of the world...you and I both know this does not work and the oppression continues blindly...

So how does you tactic work...it may make you noble...but does nothing for the person in need who suffer from unjust
 Quoting: Truth 1307494



Sadly we have a system that continues to grow and grow-

so large in fact that it is blind to the fact that it is the oppressor...

perhaps even you do not see or feel this oppression-

but some of us do...

Elections indeed have consequences.

But 'playing God' is much more dangerous.

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Please confirm that your suggesting that someone standing-up defending there right and possibilty fighting back to defend there people is what your referring to as playing GOD.

I dont think that this is what you mean..but thought i check anyway.

Many do indeed turn the other cheek only to see the atrocities to continue or get worse then before...its tricky situation and easy for us to talk about....

Do you know the year general timeline in which the Dark Ages started?
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Turning the cheek will work at times and I have this option.
But on many times during present state of the world...you and I both know this does not work and the oppression continues blindly...

So how does you tactic work...it may make you noble...but does nothing for the person in need who suffer from unjust
 Quoting: Truth 1307494





Sadly we have a system that continues to grow and grow-

so large in fact that it is blind to the fact that it is the oppressor...

perhaps even you do not see or feel this oppression-

but some of us do...


Elections indeed have consequences.

But 'playing God' is much more dangerous.


^^
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Brother..we have become part of the system and thus like you said are the oppressors...yet we know not.
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Turning the cheek will work at times and I have this option.
But on many times during present state of the world...you and I both know this does not work and the oppression continues blindly...

So how does you tactic work...it may make you noble...but does nothing for the person in need who suffer from unjust
 Quoting: Truth 1307494





Sadly we have a system that continues to grow and grow-

so large in fact that it is blind to the fact that it is the oppressor...

perhaps even you do not see or feel this oppression-

but some of us do...


Elections indeed have consequences.

But 'playing God' is much more dangerous.


^^
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051



Brother..we have become part of the system and thus like you said are the oppressors...yet we know not.
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Indeed- the 'mark of the beast'...

Taken by all.


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