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MUSLIMS ONLY WORSHIP ONE GOD: GOD OF ADAM,ABRAHAM,MOSES,DAVID,SOLOMON,JESUS AND MOHAMMAD

 
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Muslim god is not christian god is not jewish god.
i'm not a religious retard so here are the facts:
-The 10 commandments are the only mandatory laws in old testament relevant for christians.
-god of ot is not the same god as in nt
I'm with Zobrist!
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Muslim god is not christian god is not jewish god.
i'm not a religious retard so here are the facts:
-The 10 commandments are the only mandatory laws in old testament relevant for christians.
-god of ot is not the same god as in nt
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Muslim god is not christian god is not jewish god.
i'm not a religious retard so here are the facts:
-The 10 commandments are the only mandatory laws in old testament relevant for christians.
-god of ot is not the same god as in nt
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Ol' Willie Mctell

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 Quoting: Truth 1307494


I don't know who do you think I am, but i'm serious.

Anyway, religous laws are not mandatory to me.

I am a free man.
I'm with Zobrist!
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Turning the cheek will work at times and I have this option.
But on many times during present state of the world...you and I both know this does not work and the oppression continues blindly...

So how does you tactic work...it may make you noble...but does nothing for the person in need who suffer from unjust
 Quoting: Truth 1307494



It's not a tactic, it's obeying the command of Jesus Christ, the son of almighty Jehova, which is the only righteousness anyone has.

All things work for good to them that love God. The oppression does not continue blindly, but is a direct result of mans' sin against Christ.

Only Yaweh can relieve suffering. By abiding in Christ, Yaweh promises to do just that.

Turning the other cheek means to preach the Holy Word of God as mans' sword in the face of physical attacks from demons, which includes Muslims obeying the command of their father to slay Christians wherever they find them.
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Muslim god is not christian god is not jewish god.
i'm not a religious retard so here are the facts:
-The 10 commandments are the only mandatory laws in old testament relevant for christians.
-god of ot is not the same god as in nt
 Quoting: ol' Willie McTell



Ol' Willie Mctell

Is that you? Tell me it ain't so.
 Quoting: Truth 1307494


I don't know who do you think I am, but i'm serious.

Anyway, religous laws are not mandatory to me.

I am a free man.
 Quoting: ol' Willie McTell


I'm a muslim,

And by being a free man your already half-away to being a muslim...i wish you peace
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Turning the cheek will work at times and I have this option.
But on many times during present state of the world...you and I both know this does not work and the oppression continues blindly...

So how does you tactic work...it may make you noble...but does nothing for the person in need who suffer from unjust
 Quoting: Truth 1307494


It's not a tactic, it's obeying the command of Jesus Christ, the son of almighty Jehova, which is the only righteousness anyone has.

All things work for good to them that love God. The oppression does not continue blindly, but is a direct result of mans' sin against Christ.

Only Yaweh can relieve suffering. By abiding in Christ, Yaweh promises to do just that.

Turning the other cheek means to preach the Holy Word of God as mans' sword in the face of physical attacks from demons, which includes Muslims obeying the command of their father to slay Christians wherever they find them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


1) You never answered the question...Turning the cheek may work at times...but not always...stop the oppression.

2) What you call God is not a big deal to me..but you will agree that we both have ONE GOD..you call him Jehova and I call him ALLAH....but both are the ONE GOD who created us .

3) I do not believe in Jesus (PBUH) to being a SON OF GOD. he was a mortal a man...just like all the other prophets before him.

4) I believe JESUS to be a great Prophet and that he never died for my sin...nor did he die on the cross...

It is in my faith...to advise you that all that I have said to you will be confirmed as to if Im wrong or your right.


GOD WILL ASK JESUS:

GOD: JESUS DID YOU TELL THE PEOPLE OF THE EARTH TO HOLD YOU AS MY SON or HOLD YOU EQUAL TO ME or CALL YOU GOD?

JESUS: NO I DID NOT...I WOULD NOT SAY SOMETHING I HAVE NO RIGHT TO SAY. SURELY YOU WOULD KNOW HAD I SAID SOMETHING TO THE PEOPLE.

Jesus himself will confirm the truth


As a Muslim --- I wish you peace.
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Do not be egoistic or dogmatic...

With soo many opinions...only one will be correct...so you really have to dig inside yourself as do I ...to seek the truth...





And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, 'Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah'?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, though I know not what in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden. [Qur'an 5:116]

O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger from Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His Messengers. Say not "Three": desist: It will be better for you: For Allah is One God: Glory be to Him: (Far Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs. [Qur'an 4:171]



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Do you know the year general timeline in which the Dark Ages started?
 Quoting: Truth 1307494





Thank you for an interesting question.

The moniker 'Daniel's Seventieth Seven' relates to such a question:

Daniel 9:24 (NIV)
Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy.


69 have past.

And we are in the 70th.

(humble opinions- of course)




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In my opinion he did not sin either.
His intention wAs to resolve a dispute ... He had good motive and unintentional killed a man. It was not something he wanted to do.
It was an accident. Even with Adam he simply forgot the command to not ear.

All these were not sin. Rather evidence that they were mortal men with ability to make unintentional error.

My question to you however... You say Jesus didn't sin ... But you say Moses did. Why do you say that.

In my opinion no prophets committed sin.



 Quoting: Mm 13097518



The real question:


Why ridicule someone for what they believe? (What is the gain???)

Why would Shalhevet mock Jesus just because she think it's impossible? (Seriously- why???)

You believe Moses with without sin-

... and you should not be mocked for your belief.



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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


Daniel... shortly before you have stated that a wrong thought is a sin. Do you actually believe that j'sus if he existed as a man, never had a thought that would be wrong? This all goes back to our discussion on where it is a sin to have a thought even if you don't act on it.

Your own scriptures say that NO ONE is without sin.

Romans 5:12 KJV
Wherefore , as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned.

Yet they then turn and claim j'sus is without sin. See here is your problem... You claim j'sus is a man and the NT says ALL men have sinned.

Why did I say he must have been a robot? Simply because you make it sound like he had no choice. How would a MAN, manage to never have a single bad thought unless he was dehumanized. Sorry if that upsets you, I'm simply trying to make a point. indy
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Turning the cheek will work at times and I have this option.
But on many times during present state of the world...you and I both know this does not work and the oppression continues blindly...

So how does you tactic work...it may make you noble...but does nothing for the person in need who suffer from unjust
 Quoting: Truth 1307494


It's not a tactic, it's obeying the command of Jesus Christ, the son of almighty Jehova, which is the only righteousness anyone has.

All things work for good to them that love God. The oppression does not continue blindly, but is a direct result of mans' sin against Christ.

Only Yaweh can relieve suffering. By abiding in Christ, Yaweh promises to do just that.

Turning the other cheek means to preach the Holy Word of God as mans' sword in the face of physical attacks from demons, which includes Muslims obeying the command of their father to slay Christians wherever they find them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


1) You never answered the question...Turning the cheek may work at times...but not always...stop the oppression.

2) What you call God is not a big deal to me..but you will agree that we both have ONE GOD..you call him Jehova and I call him ALLAH....but both are the ONE GOD who created us .

3) I do not believe in Jesus (PBUH) to being a SON OF GOD. he was a mortal a man...just like all the other prophets before him.

4) I believe JESUS to be a great Prophet and that he never died for my sin...nor did he die on the cross...

It is in my faith...to advise you that all that I have said to you will be confirmed as to if Im wrong or your right.


GOD WILL ASK JESUS:

GOD: JESUS DID YOU TELL THE PEOPLE OF THE EARTH TO HOLD YOU AS MY SON or HOLD YOU EQUAL TO ME or CALL YOU GOD?

JESUS: NO I DID NOT...I WOULD NOT SAY SOMETHING I HAVE NO RIGHT TO SAY. SURELY YOU WOULD KNOW HAD I SAID SOMETHING TO THE PEOPLE.

Jesus himself will confirm the truth


As a Muslim --- I wish you peace.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1307494


You are a satanist; you are no muslim that your allah would ever have. You pick and choose what to believe, including looking within where God says no good thing is.

Christ came to bring His truth, not worldly peace. Your claims of peace are lies, for there is no peace without the son of God, Jesus Christ, the Creator of it.


(1 Thessalonians 5:3-4) For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. But ye brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
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Muslim god is not christian god is not jewish god.
i'm not a religious retard so here are the facts:
-The 10 commandments are the only mandatory laws in old testament relevant for christians.
-god of ot is not the same god as in nt
 Quoting: ol' Willie McTell


if all christian follow old testament law then most of them would have been stoned for "adultary" this is what bible say Re: SHARIA LAW IS ENDORSE BY JESUS IN BIBLE TOO (bible SAY WOMEN SHOULD DIE dueternomy 22;22)
What about John 8:1-11? Does it really justify fornication, adultery and pornography as many Christians believe?

Let us look at John 8:1-11:

1
But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.
2
At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them.
3
The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group
4
and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery.
5
In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?"
6
They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger.
7
When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."
8
Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
9
At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there.
10
Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?"
11
"No one, sir," she said. "Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."
Many Christians use these verses to justify fornication and pornography. We all know well that the Bible contains the most disgusting Graphic X-Rated Pornography. And the use of John 8:1-11 does indeed raise a great concern to Morals and Ethics.

For one thing, it is the biggest mistake for the citizens of the Christian Whoredom to use John 8:1-11 as an excuse for the sexual sins they commit against GOD Almighty. When Jesus peace be upon him refused to stone the woman, HE ACTUALLY REFUSED TO BE A HYPOCRITE!

Have he ordered the stoning of the woman, he would have been indeed a hypocrite, because people in charge of authority back then were not following anything in the Law properly. He even called them "hypocrites" in several occasions; see Matthew 6:2, 5, 16, Matthew 15:7, Matthew 22:18, Matthew 23:13, 15, 23, 25, 27, 29, Matthew 24:51, Mark 7:6 and Luke 13:15 in the Bible. So why punish the weakest citizen and leave the cause of the corruption?! That was the Message that Jesus peace be upon him gave to the people back then. Notice that John 8:6 clearly says "They were using this question as a trap", which clearly means that the situation of John 8:1-11 was no more than a trap to make Jesus peace be upon him make a mistake. That's why HE DIDN'T ALLOW THEM TO OUT SMART HIM AND FORCE HIM TO GIVE ANY JUDGMENT AGAINST THE WOMAN. Jesus peace be upon him didn't in anyway nullify the Laws of GOD Almighty regarding punishment for adultery.
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Muslim god is not christian god is not jewish god.
i'm not a religious retard so here are the facts:
-The 10 commandments are the only mandatory laws in old testament relevant for christians.
-god of ot is not the same god as in nt
 Quoting: ol' Willie McTell


if all christian follow old testament law then most of them would have been stoned for "adultary" this is what bible say Re: SHARIA LAW IS ENDORSE BY JESUS IN BIBLE TOO (bible SAY WOMEN SHOULD DIE dueternomy 22;22)
What about John 8:1-11? Does it really justify fornication, adultery and pornography as many Christians believe?

Let us look at John 8:1-11:

1
But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.
2
At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them.
3
The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group
4
and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery.
5
In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?" 6
They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger.
7
When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."
8
Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
9
At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there.
10
Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?"
11
"No one, sir," she said. "Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."
Many Christians use these verses to justify fornication and pornography. We all know well that the Bible contains the most disgusting Graphic X-Rated Pornography. And the use of John 8:1-11 does indeed raise a great concern to Morals and Ethics.

For one thing, it is the biggest mistake for the citizens of the Christian Whoredom to use John 8:1-11 as an excuse for the sexual sins they commit against GOD Almighty. When Jesus peace be upon him refused to stone the woman, HE ACTUALLY REFUSED TO BE A HYPOCRITE!

Have he ordered the stoning of the woman, he would have been indeed a hypocrite, because people in charge of authority back then were not following anything in the Law properly. He even called them "hypocrites" in several occasions; see Matthew 6:2, 5, 16, Matthew 15:7, Matthew 22:18, Matthew 23:13, 15, 23, 25, 27, 29, Matthew 24:51, Mark 7:6 and Luke 13:15 in the Bible. So why punish the weakest citizen and leave the cause of the corruption?! That was the Message that Jesus peace be upon him gave to the people back then. Notice that John 8:6 clearly says "They were using this question as a trap", which clearly means that the situation of John 8:1-11 was no more than a trap to make Jesus peace be upon him make a mistake. That's why HE DIDN'T ALLOW THEM TO OUT SMART HIM AND FORCE HIM TO GIVE ANY JUDGMENT AGAINST THE WOMAN. Jesus peace be upon him didn't in anyway nullify the Laws of GOD Almighty regarding punishment for adultery.
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In my opinion he did not sin either.
His intention wAs to resolve a dispute ... He had good motive and unintentional killed a man. It was not something he wanted to do.
It was an accident. Even with Adam he simply forgot the command to not ear.

All these were not sin. Rather evidence that they were mortal men with ability to make unintentional error.

My question to you however... You say Jesus didn't sin ... But you say Moses did. Why do you say that.

In my opinion no prophets committed sin.

 Quoting: Mm 13097518


The real question:

Why ridicule someone for what they believe? (What is the gain???)

Why would Shalhevet mock Jesus just because she think it's impossible? (Seriously- why???)
You believe Moses with without sin-
... and you should not be mocked for your belief.
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I will leave that matter with you and shalhevet.
But in my view no prophets committed a sin.
They were all good god fearing men
 Quoting: Mm 13097518


I think it would be best to clear up what a sin is.

There are different types of sin in Torah, even though English uses only one word. The generic Hebrew word for any kind of sin is aveira. There are various words that translate as "sin" but the three main ones you'll find in the Torah are:

Pesha - An intentional sin; an action committed in deliberate defiance of G_d;

Ovon - This is a sin of lust or uncontrollable emotion. It is a sin done knowingly, but not done to defy G_d;

Cheit - This is a missing of the mark -- an accidental sin.

Adam and Chava (Eve) commited a cheit.

A mistake. A "missing of the mark." A boo-boo if you will.

The word comes from an arrow that misses its target. The result may have ramifications, but the act was not done with malice aforethought.

Now for the question, did Moses sin? Yes, I believe he did and he was punished for doing so..


Numbers. 20:8. "Take the staff and assemble the congregation, you and your brother Aaron, and speak to the rock in their presence so that it will give forth its water. You shall bring forth water for them from the rock and give the congregation and their livestock to drink."

9. Moses took the staff from before the Lord as He had commanded him.

10. Moses and Aaron assembled the congregation in front of the rock, and he said to them, "Now listen, you rebels, can we draw water for you from this rock?"

11. Moses raised his hand and struck the rock with his staff twice, when an abundance of water gushed forth, and the congregation and their livestock drank.

12. The Lord said to Moses and Aaron, "Since you did not have faith in Me to sanctify Me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore you shall not bring this assembly to the Land which I have given them.
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. You claim j'sus is a man
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Once again- you have made an assumption.

Why??

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Sorry if that upsets you
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Why would you make yet another assumption such as ^this?^



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. You claim j'sus is a man
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Once again- you have made an assumption.

Why??

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Get off you high and might horse.

Truth has asked you many times in here to verify whether you believed J'sus to be a god or man. All information you give lead to believing you believe him to be a man and not a god. So if I have that wrong it is only your lack of straight response that leads me to believe that is what you are indicating.
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Sorry if that upsets you
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Why would you make yet another assumption such as ^this?^



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Oh I don't know, seems your having a kanipfit over me saying he sounded like a robot. So that might have a bit to do with it.
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. You claim j'sus is a man
 Quoting: Shalhevet




Once again- you have made an assumption.

Why??

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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


Get off you high and might horse.

Truth has asked you many times in here to verify whether you believed J'sus to be a god or man. All information you give lead to believing you believe him to be a man and not a god. So if I have that wrong it is only your lack of straight response that leads me to believe that is what you are indicating.
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calm down-

perhaps you didn't understand.

What is your question?

Is Jesus 'just a man"


The answer is :


No.




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Sorry if that upsets you
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Why would you make yet another assumption such as ^this?^



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Oh I don't know, seems your having a kanipfit over me saying he sounded like a robot. So that might have a bit to do with it.
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kanipfit?

nah-

just wondering if your mocking might ever stop...



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. You claim j'sus is a man
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Once again- you have made an assumption.

Why??

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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


Get off you high and might horse.

Truth has asked you many times in here to verify whether you believed J'sus to be a god or man. All information you give lead to believing you believe him to be a man and not a god. So if I have that wrong it is only your lack of straight response that leads me to believe that is what you are indicating.
 Quoting: Shalhevet



calm down-

perhaps you didn't understand.

What is your question?

Is Jesus 'just a man"


The answer is :


No.




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So what is he to you, a god?
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So what is he to you...
 Quoting: Shalhevet


Thank you for asking.


It was already posted on this thread:

Hello OP,

I will share my humble views;

Scripture describes God. It says God is not a man rather God is Spirit, God is a consuming fire, The Heavens cannot contain God. To name just a a few attributes found within scripture.

I imagine God is a spiritual body. A body composed of many members.

Just as an earthly body has many members, but it is one body. All the members of the body exist to perform their role in unison for the one body.

So many parts moving and acting in perfect coordination to fulfill the will and purpose of the body. All parts of the same body.

In like manner, I see The Father as being the head of such a 'spiritual body'. I also see The Christ being a part of the same 'spiritual body'.

We see scripture refer to The Christ as 'the arm of the LORD' and the 'word of God'. So He is likened to a member(s) of a spiritual body. That body being The LORD Of Hosts.

So I see One Spiritual body (which is God), being composed of many members performing the various functions of God in perfect union and harmony to fulfill the will and purpose of God.

So you ask me Is Jesus God? My view is yes, He is a member of the spiritual body of God.

I find this view to be consistent and not contradictory with what I read in scripture.

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Hello everyone.
I hope your day has gone welll. While it ends for some... It starts for some.

Daniel

I'm zoo very much confused as to your position on
Prophet Jesus(pbuh)

Whateve you believe I respect as it effects me not.

But still after much review I still dong know if you believe jesus to be GOD or if you believe him to be Something else.

I am interested in knowing please respond in most clear fashion as possible.

Thx
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I'm zoo
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lol-


having just spent the day at the zoo-

your words are a breath of sunshine-


Do you understand the words of Jay just posted?

If not -

why? (please be specific)





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Cheit - This is a missing of the mark -- an accidental sin.

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Shalhevet

Thanks for the above info on types of sin defined.
It is my own opinion and not anything with Islam that I feel that most prophets did unintentional errors that I suppose would be classified in your terms as cheit.

The Islamic scholars seem to be unclear on this matter.
Some state as what you have stated while others claim that prophets may have committed cheit.

In guess I have to study this more to better develop support for my response.

Considering that every prophet asked for forgives confirms that they themselves knew of their own flaws and thus looked to GOD for help
Including JeSUS. Meaning they were all men prophets of GOD

Peace
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I'm zoo
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lol-

having just spent the day at the zoo-

your words are a breath of sunshine-
Do you understand the words of Jay just posted?

If not -

why? (please be specific)

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Sorry about the typo. Hope you enjoyed your trip to the zoo.
Which zoo may I ask.

My keypad is too small for my thumb :)

Actually it was jay s word that ceated confusion yes.

I'm unable to wrap my head around as to what jay means with being body with GOD. So is he saying that Jesus is GOD.

Looking forward to your assistance
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I'm zoo
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lol-

having just spent the day at the zoo-

your words are a breath of sunshine-
Do you understand the words of Jay just posted?

If not -

why? (please be specific)

/\
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


Sorry about the typo. Hope you enjoyed your trip to the zoo.
Which zoo may I ask.

My keypad is too small for my thumb :)

Actually it was jay s word that ceated confusion yes.

I'm unable to wrap my head around as to what jay means with being body with GOD. So is he saying that Jesus is GOD.

Looking forward to your assistance
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Columbus , Ohio Zoo... (Jack Hanna)

Arm of God:

Isaiah 53

1 Who has believed our message
and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?
2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot,
and like a root out of dry ground.
He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
3 He was despised and rejected by men,
a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering.
Like one from whom men hide their faces
he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

4 Surely he took up our infirmities
and carried our sorrows,
yet we considered him stricken by God,
smitten by him, and afflicted.
5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was upon him,
and by his wounds we are healed.
6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
each of us has turned to his own way;
and the LORD has laid on him
the iniquity of us all.

7 He was oppressed and afflicted,
yet he did not open his mouth;
he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before her shearers is silent,
so he did not open his mouth.
8 By oppression[a] and judgment he was taken away.
And who can speak of his descendants?
For he was cut off from the land of the living;
for the transgression of my people he was stricken.
9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
and with the rich in his death,
though he had done no violence,
nor was any deceit in his mouth.

10 Yet it was the LORD’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
and though the LORD makes[c] his life a guilt offering,
he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand.
11 After the suffering of his soul,
he will see the light of life[d] and be satisfied[e];
by his knowledge[f] my righteous servant will justify many,
and he will bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,[g]
and he will divide the spoils with the strong,[h]
because he poured out his life unto death,
and was numbered with the transgressors.
For he bore the sin of many,
and made intercession for the transgressors.






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As you know I'm very slow.

You have to be more clear as to what the above means.

Am I to take the below literally ?

1 Who has believed our message
and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?

????
pls advice
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As you know I'm very slow.

You have to be more clear as to what the above means.

Am I to take the below literally ?

1 Who has believed our message
and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?

????
pls advice
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Literal:


Jesus is the arm of the Lord.

and the Word of the lord...

John 1:14
The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us



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As you know I'm very slow.

You have to be more clear as to what the above means.

Am I to take the below literally ?

1 Who has believed our message
and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?

????
pls advice
 Quoting: Mm 13097518


Literal:
Jesus is the arm of the Lord.
and the Word of the lord...
John 1:14
The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us

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so to re-confirm you believe that Jesus is the actual body part arm of GOD and thus he is part GOD

I'm honestly ask to confirm that I have it right so to not ask you again.

?
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As you know I'm very slow.

You have to be more clear as to what the above means.

Am I to take the below literally ?

1 Who has believed our message
and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?

????
pls advice
 Quoting: Mm 13097518


Literal:
Jesus is the arm of the Lord.
and the Word of the lord...
John 1:14
The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us

/\

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so to re-confirm you believe that Jesus is the actual body part arm of GOD and thus he is part GOD

I'm honestly ask to confirm that I have it right so to not ask you again.

?
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From Jay's post above:

"Scripture describes God. It says God is not a man rather God is Spirit, God is a consuming fire, The Heavens cannot contain God. To name just a a few attributes found within scripture.

I imagine God is a spiritual body. A body composed of many members.

Just as an earthly body has many members, but it is one body."


So,

to help answer your question:

Jesus is an arm and The Word of God's 'spiritual body'.


(^Humble opinion^)



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