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MUSLIMS ONLY WORSHIP ONE GOD: GOD OF ADAM,ABRAHAM,MOSES,DAVID,SOLOMON,JESUS AND MOHAMMAD

 
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actually that post alesiah goes to the root of the decision to deify 300 + years later by a "celibate" clergy
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Hey there, I finally got the time to jump on GLP, so here I be...LOL Take a look..

Acts 13:31
And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people.
Forty days after his resurrection.
Acts 1:2-3, 9
Until the day in which he was taken up ... he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:
And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

When JC was taken up..He become an air sign. There are three air signs: Gemini, Aquarius and Libra.. Seems fitting.
Twins/mirror image, water bearer and judgment.

Water poured over the earth..
Water signs: Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces
Seems very fitting indeed..
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actually that post alesiah goes to the root of the decision to deify 300 + years later by a "celibate" clergy
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True that!!!
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actually that post alesiah goes to the root of the decision to deify 300 + years later by a "celibate" clergy
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Acts 13:31
And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people.
Forty days after his resurrection.
Acts 1:2-3, 9
Until the day in which he was taken up ... he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:
And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

When JC was taken up..He become an air sign. There are three air signs: Gemini, Aquarius and Libra.. Seems fitting.
Twins/mirror image, water bearer and judgment.

Water poured over the earth..
Water signs: Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces
Seems very fitting indeed..
 Quoting: Alesiah
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I'm Christian, and Jesus doesn't promote the Patriarchy (female confinement, harems, concubines, child 'marriages', buggery, etc.).

So, no they are not the same 'god'.
 Quoting: shenandoah 2636202


J'sus didn't, but G_d promoted multiple wives and concubines. coffee4
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Who died on cross?
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Thousands of people died on a Roman cross.coffee4
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I'm Christian, and Jesus doesn't promote the Patriarchy (female confinement, harems, concubines, child 'marriages', buggery, etc.).

So, no they are not the same 'god'.
 Quoting: shenandoah 2636202


J'sus didn't, but G_d promoted multiple wives and concubines. coffee4
 Quoting: Shalhevet


Who died on cross?
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Thousands of people died on a Roman cross.coffee4
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U can't worship Jesus idol in Church
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One thing to keep in mind when reading Isa is that David was called, the King of Israel. ...


Pakah was also a king in Isa...

But what child is given David's throne?...

Isaiah 9:6-7

 6For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

 7Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.


No answer Mr. Shalhevet?



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My translation of Isaiah 9:6 goes something like this: "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called 'A wonderful counselor is mighty G-d, the everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace.'" The two letter word "is", is usually not stated in Hebrew. Rather,"is" is understood. For example, the words "hakelev" (the dog) and "gadol" (big), when joined into a sentence -- hakelev gadol -- means "the dog IS big," even though no Hebrew word in that sentence represents the word "is."

A more accurate translation of the name of that child is
then, as above "A wonderful counselor is the mighty God, the everlasting father ..." Like the name "Emanuel," this name describes God, not the person who carries the name.

Biblical names often describe God, and no one thinks to apply the description to the people with these names. The name Isaiah itself means "God is salvation," and not that the prophet himself is God and salvation in a human body.

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...


Jesus taught us to pray to His father- not him.

Perhaps you are mistaken.

?
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 4668772



But that's what Christian doctrine teaches..they say ..
 Quoting: Alesiah


If you become a Christian-

Will you listen to 'them'?

Or

Jesus?...

John 14:28
...my Father is greater than I.


+
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 4668772


Become a Christian? Funny..

I have never n my life worshiped JC as G-d. I never will because it's clear the beast is man.

Have I ever praised JC? Sure, I praised JC for leading me to the Father...

Many Christians don't know their own religion's doctrine..

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Thanks for clarifying your opinions.

But isn't the "Christian doctrine" simply in the Bible?


?



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Interesting.

Does Mr . Shapiro speak just for you?

Or,

Also Mr. Shahelvet?


?
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 4668772

We don't always see all the post directed to us. So If I miss one just let me know. Also remember I'm not on this 24/7.

As for Alesiah answering for me, she has my permission. As there will be times I will answer for her also.

Also Shalhevet is Hebrew means Flame and is femine.

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U can't worship Jesus idol in Church
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You might want to explain that out a bit more. I don't worship any j'sus idol period.coffee4

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My translation of Isaiah 9:6 goes something like this: "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called 'A wonderful counselor is mighty G-d, the everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace.'" The two letter word "is", is usually not stated in Hebrew. Rather,"is" is understood. For example, the words "hakelev" (the dog) and "gadol" (big), when joined into a sentence -- hakelev gadol -- means "the dog IS big," even though no Hebrew word in that sentence represents the word "is."

A more accurate translation of the name of that child is
then, as above "A wonderful counselor is the mighty God, the everlasting father ..." Like the name "Emanuel," this name describes God, not the person who carries the name.

Biblical names often describe God, and no one thinks to apply the description to the people with these names. The name Isaiah itself means "God is salvation," and not that the prophet himself is God and salvation in a human body.


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Thank you for your response.

We seem to agree on the translation of the name of the child.

Just as we agree on the Hebrew word for 'flame'?

But-

Who ( in your opinion) is the child?


?
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My translation of Isaiah 9:6 goes something like this: "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called 'A wonderful counselor is mighty G-d, the everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace.'" The two letter word "is", is usually not stated in Hebrew. Rather,"is" is understood. For example, the words "hakelev" (the dog) and "gadol" (big), when joined into a sentence -- hakelev gadol -- means "the dog IS big," even though no Hebrew word in that sentence represents the word "is."

A more accurate translation of the name of that child is
then, as above "A wonderful counselor is the mighty God, the everlasting father ..." Like the name "Emanuel," this name describes God, not the person who carries the name.

Biblical names often describe God, and no one thinks to apply the description to the people with these names. The name Isaiah itself means "God is salvation," and not that the prophet himself is God and salvation in a human body.


 Quoting: Shalhevet



Thank you for your response.

We seem to agree on the translation of the name of the child.

Just as we agree on the Hebrew word for 'flame'?

But-

Who ( in your opinion) is the child?


?
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 10272177


The Child is believed to be Isaiah's child by his wife. others believe it is a wife of King Ahaz. Christianity have a mistranslation of the word Almah, which a noun and always signifies a young woman of marriageable age, and that woman can be married and still referred to as a young woman.

If Isa. 7:14 was referring to a virgin, the writer would have use the word 'B'tulah'.

Which ever it does not refer to a 200+ yr pregnancy.

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Interesting.

Does Mr . Shapiro speak just for you?

Or,

Also Mr. Shahelvet?


?
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We don't always see all the post directed to us. So If I miss one just let me know. Also remember I'm not on this 24/7.

As for Alesiah answering for me, she has my permission. As there will be times I will answer for her also.


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Actually ,

The question was if Mr Shapiro speaks for you.


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Muslim jewish people Christians are cousin ---Jesus never said directly that worship him ---He said worship his God
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Interesting.

Does Mr . Shapiro speak just for you?

Or,

Also Mr. Shahelvet?


?
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 4668772

We don't always see all the post directed to us. So If I miss one just let me know. Also remember I'm not on this 24/7.

As for Alesiah answering for me, she has my permission. As there will be times I will answer for her also.


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Actually ,

The question was if Mr Shapiro speaks for you.


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Who is Shapiro?
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My translation of Isaiah 9:6 goes something like this: "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called 'A wonderful counselor is mighty G-d, the everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace.'" The two letter word "is", is usually not stated in Hebrew. Rather,"is" is understood. For example, the words "hakelev" (the dog) and "gadol" (big), when joined into a sentence -- hakelev gadol -- means "the dog IS big," even though no Hebrew word in that sentence represents the word "is."

A more accurate translation of the name of that child is
then, as above "A wonderful counselor is the mighty God, the everlasting father ..." Like the name "Emanuel," this name describes God, not the person who carries the name.

Biblical names often describe God, and no one thinks to apply the description to the people with these names. The name Isaiah itself means "God is salvation," and not that the prophet himself is God and salvation in a human body.


 Quoting: Shalhevet



Thank you for your response.

We seem to agree on the translation of the name of the child.

Just as we agree on the Hebrew word for 'flame'?

But-

Who ( in your opinion) is the child?


?
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 10272177


The Child is believed to be Isaiah's child by his wife. others believe it is a wife of King Ahaz. Christianity have a mistranslation of the word Almah, which a noun and always signifies a young woman of marriageable age, and that woman can be married and still referred to as a young woman.

If Isa. 7:14 was referring to a virgin, the writer would have use the word 'B'tulah'.

Which ever it does not refer to a 200+ yr pregnancy.


 Quoting: Shalhevet


In other words,

You do not agree with Mr. Shapiro or Alesia?

Do you still expect a messiah? If so...

Why?

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Interesting.

Does Mr . Shapiro speak just for you?

Or,

Also Mr. Shahelvet?


?
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 4668772

We don't always see all the post directed to us. So If I miss one just let me know. Also remember I'm not on this 24/7.

As for Alesiah answering for me, she has my permission. As there will be times I will answer for her also.


 Quoting: Shalhevet



Actually ,

The question was if Mr Shapiro speaks for you.


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Who is Shapiro?
 Quoting: Shalhevet



That is who Alesia quoted when she answered for you.


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Muslim also believes Jesus will come and kill anti Christ and redirect whole humanity to one God
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Muslims DO NOT worship any man as GOD...neither do the J.ews... Please Do NOT believe "gossip"...

Research what THEY believe from reliable resources..



The majority of all Christian denominations worship this man.. This is the man, who they put a face to as god.
It's an abomination to worship man as God per the other two Abraham faith doctrines..

:jes-s:
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We don't worship Jesus as God, that's a lie.

Do Muslims worship Mohammed?

jewish people worship Abraham or king Solomon?
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I'm Christian, and Jesus doesn't promote the Patriarchy (female confinement, harems, concubines, child 'marriages', buggery, etc.).

So, no they are not the same 'god'.
 Quoting: shenandoah 2636202


J'sus didn't, but G_d promoted multiple wives and concubines. coffee4
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You speak for God?
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actually that post alesiah goes to the root of the decision to deify 300 + years later by a "celibate" clergy
 Quoting: aether


Hey there, I finally got the time to jump on GLP, so here I be...LOL Take a look..

Acts 13:31
And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people.
Forty days after his resurrection.
Acts 1:2-3, 9
Until the day in which he was taken up ... he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:
And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

When JC was taken up..He become an air sign. There are three air signs: Gemini, Aquarius and Libra.. Seems fitting.
Twins/mirror image, water bearer and judgment.

Water poured over the earth..
Water signs: Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces
Seems very fitting indeed..
 Quoting: Alesiah


that is their thinking
amazed hugs
you are an angel alesiah

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actually that post alesiah goes to the root of the decision to deify 300 + years later by a "celibate" clergy
 Quoting: aether


Hey there, I finally got the time to jump on GLP, so here I be...LOL Take a look..

Acts 13:31
And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people.
Forty days after his resurrection.
Acts 1:2-3, 9
Until the day in which he was taken up ... he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:
And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

When JC was taken up..He become an air sign. There are three air signs: Gemini, Aquarius and Libra.. Seems fitting.
Twins/mirror image, water bearer and judgment.

Water poured over the earth..
Water signs: Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces
Seems very fitting indeed..
 Quoting: Alesiah


that is their thinking
amazed hugs
you are an angel alesiah
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he became a god in the tradition of air gods
the tradition of rome
the air god capital of our planet

brilliant
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he became a god in the tradition of air gods
the tradition of rome
the air god capital of our planet

brilliant
xoxo
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a planetary god following the tradition of saturn, jupiter planetary gods
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In old testament Bible times when Noah walked with God the Muslims would all be destroyed int he flood.

Jesus said as it was in the days of Noah so shall it be in the Second Coming.
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ONLY PAGAN WORSHIPS MORE THEN ONE GOD--- GOD OF CHRISTIANITY, JUDAISM AND ISLAM IS SAME GOD---- WE ALL ARE BROTHERS WHO ARE DIVIDED BY ILLUMINATI SECRET AGENDA---- JUST FOLLOW THE MESSAGE OF ADAM,ABRAHAM,MOSES,JESUS AND MOHAMMAD U ALL WILL BE SAVED resist
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"there is no one like Yahweh our God." Exodus 8:10
"Yahweh, He is God; there is no other besides Him." Deuteronomy 4:35
"Yahweh, He is God in heaven above and on the earth below; there is no other." Deuteronomy 4:39
"See now that I, I am He, And there is no god besides Me" Deuteronomy 32:39
"Hear, O Israel! Yahweh is our God, Yahweh is one [echad]!" Deuteronomy 6:4
"You are great, O Lord God; for there is none like You, and there is no God besides You" 2 Samuel 7:22
"For who is God, besides Yahweh? And who is a rock, besides our God?" 2 Samuel 22:32
"Yahweh is God; there is no one else." 1 Kings 8:60
"You are the God, You alone [bad], of all the kingdoms of the earth." 2 Kings 19:15
"O Lord, there is none like You, nor is there any God besides You" 1 Chronicles 17:20
"You alone [bad] are Yahweh." Nehemiah 9:6
"For who is God, but Yahweh? And who is a rock, except our God" Psalm 18:31
"You alone [bad], Lord, are God." Isaiah 37:20
"Before Me there was no God formed, And there will be none after Me." Isaiah 43:10
"‘I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me." Isaiah 44:6
"Is there any God besides Me, Or is there any other Rock? I know of none." Isaiah 44:8
"I am Yahweh, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God." Isaiah 45:5
"Surely, God is with you, and there is none else, No other God." Isaiah 45:14
"I am Yahweh, and there is none else." Isaiah 45:18
"Is it not I, Yahweh? And there is no other God besides Me, A righteous God and a Savior; There is none except Me." Isaiah 45:21
"I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is no one like Me" Isaiah 46:9
"And Yahweh will be king over all the earth; in that day Yahweh will be the only one [echad], and His name the only one[echad]." Zechariah 14:9
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Wow... how old are you? Unable to figure that one out yet?

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This is a shill!

If no one knows this the world is enslaved!

Instead of telling others, he berates the original teller!

HI NAVY AGENTS
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My translation of Isaiah 9:6 goes something like this: "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called 'A wonderful counselor is mighty G-d, the everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace.'" The two letter word "is", is usually not stated in Hebrew. Rather,"is" is understood. For example, the words "hakelev" (the dog) and "gadol" (big), when joined into a sentence -- hakelev gadol -- means "the dog IS big," even though no Hebrew word in that sentence represents the word "is."

A more accurate translation of the name of that child is
then, as above "A wonderful counselor is the mighty God, the everlasting father ..." Like the name "Emanuel," this name describes God, not the person who carries the name.

Biblical names often describe God, and no one thinks to apply the description to the people with these names. The name Isaiah itself means "God is salvation," and not that the prophet himself is God and salvation in a human body.


 Quoting: Shalhevet



Thank you for your response.

We seem to agree on the translation of the name of the child.

Just as we agree on the Hebrew word for 'flame'?

But-

Who ( in your opinion) is the child?


?
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 10272177


The Child is believed to be Isaiah's child by his wife. others believe it is a wife of King Ahaz. Christianity have a mistranslation of the word Almah, which a noun and always signifies a young woman of marriageable age, and that woman can be married and still referred to as a young woman.

If Isa. 7:14 was referring to a virgin, the writer would have use the word 'B'tulah'.

Which ever it does not refer to a 200+ yr pregnancy.


 Quoting: Shalhevet


In other words,

You do not agree with Mr. Shapiro or Alesia?

Do you still expect a messiah? If so...

Why?

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It is not know for sure who the child is, the bible doesn't specifically say. As I said some believe it was Isaiah's others King Ahaz's. Could it have been Hezekiah, yes it is possible. So since there are variations of the understanding of who it could be, then I have to agree with Alesiah that it is possible Hezekiah.
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I'm Christian, and Jesus doesn't promote the Patriarchy (female confinement, harems, concubines, child 'marriages', buggery, etc.).

So, no they are not the same 'god'.
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J'sus didn't, but G_d promoted multiple wives and concubines. coffee4
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You speak for God?
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I take it you've never read the Christian OT.
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Thank you for your response.

We seem to agree on the translation of the name of the child.

Just as we agree on the Hebrew word for 'flame'?

But-

Who ( in your opinion) is the child?


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The Child is believed to be Isaiah's child by his wife. others believe it is a wife of King Ahaz. Christianity have a mistranslation of the word Almah, which a noun and always signifies a young woman of marriageable age, and that woman can be married and still referred to as a young woman.

If Isa. 7:14 was referring to a virgin, the writer would have use the word 'B'tulah'.

Which ever it does not refer to a 200+ yr pregnancy.


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In other words,

You do not agree with Mr. Shapiro or Alesia?

Do you still expect a messiah? If so...

Why?

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It is not know for sure who the child is, the bible doesn't specifically say. As I said some believe it was Isaiah's others King Ahaz's. Could it have been Hezekiah, yes it is possible. So since there are variations of the understanding of who it could be, then I have to agree with Alesiah that it is possible Hezekiah.
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Thanks for your clarification.

But you didn't answer- do you still expect a messiah?

And why?

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Thanks for your clarification.

But you didn't answer- do you still expect a messiah?

And why?

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I expect there will be a Moshiah but he will not be what the Christians have believed him to be. He will not be a god, nor will he be worshiped as a god nor will he expect to be worshiped.

This is what he is expected to happen or be accomplish.

* The Sanhedrin will be re-established (Isaiah 1:26)
* Once he is King, leaders of other nations will look to him for guidance. (Isaiah 2:4)
* The whole world will worship the One God of Israel (Isaiah 2:17)
* He will be descended from King David (Isaiah 11:1) via King Solomon (1 Chron. 22:8-10)
* The Moshiach will be a man of this world, an observant jewish with "fear of God" (Isaiah 11:2)
* Evil and tyranny will not be able to stand before his leadership (Isaiah 11:4)
* Knowledge of God will fill the world (Isaiah 11:9)
* He will include and attract people from all cultures and nations (Isaiah 11:10)
* All Israelites will be returned to their homeland (Isaiah 11:12)
* Death will be swallowed up forever (Isaiah 25:8)
* There will be no more hunger or illness, and death will cease (Isaiah 25:8)
* All of the dead will rise again (Isaiah 26:19)
* The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness (Isaiah 51:11)
* He will be a messenger of peace (Isaiah 52:7)
* Nations will end up recognizing the wrongs they did Israel (Isaiah 52:13-53:5)
* For My House shall be called a house of prayer for all nations (Isaiah 56:3-7)
* The peoples of the world will turn to the jewish people for spiritual guidance (Zechariah 8:23)
* The ruined cities of Israel will be restored (Ezekiel 16:55)
* Weapons of war will be destroyed (Ezekiel 39:9)
* The Temple will be rebuilt (Ezekiel 40) resuming many of the suspended mitzvot
* He will then perfect the entire world to serve God together (Zephaniah 3:9)
* jewish people will know the Torah without Study (Jeremiah 31:33)
* He will give you all the desires of your heart (Psalms 37:4)
* He will take the barren land and make it abundant and fruitful (Isaiah 51:3, Amos 9:13-15, Ezekiel 36:29-30, Isaiah 11:6-9)


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Thanks for your clarification.

But you didn't answer- do you still expect a messiah?

And why?

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A question for you.

You expect J'sus to return. How will you recognize him? Your bible says he will come in the air. What happens if the only thing that comes in the air are UFO's.


read this scripture carefully and tell me what you think it is saying.

Ezekiel 37:24. And My servant David shall be king over them, and one shepherd shall be for them all, and they shall walk in My ordinances and observe My statutes and perform them.

Now read it in context:

Ezekiel 37:21. And say to them, So says the Lord God: Behold I will take the children of Israel from among the nations where they have gone, and I will gather them from every side, and I will bring them to their land. (When is this suppose to happen?)
22. And I will make them into one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel, and one king shall be to them all as a king; and they shall no longer be two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms anymore. [We are speaking of tribes coming together again]
23. And they shall no longer defile themselves with their idols, with their detestable things, or with all their transgressions, and I will save them from all their habitations in which they have sinned, and I will purify them, and they shall be to Me as a people, and I will be to them as a God. [Again this happens when?]
24. And My servant David shall be king over them, and one shepherd shall be for them all, and they shall walk in My ordinances and observe My statutes and perform them.
25. And they shall dwell on the land that I have given to My servant, to Jacob, wherein your forefathers lived; and they shall dwell upon it, they and their children and their children's children, forever; and My servant David shall be their prince forever.
26. And I will form a covenant of peace for them, an everlasting covenant shall be with them; and I will establish them and I will multiply them, and I will place My Sanctuary in their midst forever.
27. And My dwelling place shall be over them, and I will be to them for a God, and they shall be to Me as a people.
28. And the nations shall know that I am the Lord, Who sanctifies Israel, when My Sanctuary is in their midst forever."

So you see actually the Bible does tell you the name of the Moshiah, and it isn't J'sus

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Thanks for your clarification.

But you didn't answer- do you still expect a messiah?

And why?

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I expect there will be a Moshiah but he will not be what the Christians have believed him to be. He will not be a god, nor will he be worshiped as a god nor will he expect to be worshiped.


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Long answer- thank you- one piece at a time:


Did Jesus say He was a God or expect to be worshipped?

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