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MUSLIMS ONLY WORSHIP ONE GOD: GOD OF ADAM,ABRAHAM,MOSES,DAVID,SOLOMON,JESUS AND MOHAMMAD

 
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A question for you.

You expect J'sus to return. How will you recognize him? Your bible says...



 Quoting: Shalhevet


You asked a question-

Why try to answer it without first waiting for an answer?

For two reasons - He ( Messiah) should be easily identified:

1. Isa 45:23
2, 2 Thess 2:3

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I gave you what the Tanach says about the Moshiah and how we will recognize him. Then I asked how you would recognize your messiah. You gave this one, which I really don't see how it tells you how to recognize him.

Isa. 45:23. By Myself I swore, righteousness emanated from My mouth, a word, and it shall not be retracted, that to Me shall every knee kneel, every tongue shall swear."

2 Thess 2:3?
 Quoting: Shalhevet


I responded to this already.
 Quoting: Shalhevet



Likewise.

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You asked a question-

Why try to answer it without first waiting for an answer?

For two reasons - He ( Messiah) should be easily identified:

1. Isa 45:23
2, 2 Thess 2:3

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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 10272177

I gave you what the Tanach says about the Moshiah and how we will recognize him. Then I asked how you would recognize your messiah. You gave this one, which I really don't see how it tells you how to recognize him.

Isa. 45:23. By Myself I swore, righteousness emanated from My mouth, a word, and it shall not be retracted, that to Me shall every knee kneel, every tongue shall swear."

2 Thess 2:3?
 Quoting: Shalhevet


I responded to this already.
 Quoting: Shalhevet



Likewise.

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Yes, read above your "Likewise"

I'll be gone for a couple days. May be back on late Sat. coffee4
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Hope son of Mary guides whole mankind to true god
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I really don't see how it tells you how to recognize him.

Isa. 45:23. By Myself I swore, righteousness emanated from My mouth, a word, and it shall not be retracted, that to Me shall every knee kneel, every tongue shall swear."

2 Thess 2:3?
 Quoting: Shalhevet


1- When you are on your knees- you will know.
2 - you've read parts of the NT - one more passage shouldn't hurt.

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Response before I have to leave...

I've read the whole NT.

This is what the moshiah will have to do in order to be recognized as the moshiah...

* World Peace (Isaiah 2:4; Ezekiel 39:9)
* Universal Knowledge of G-d (Isaiah 11:9; Jeremiah 31:33)
* Construction of the Third and Final Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28)
* End to Disease and Death (Isaiah 25:8, 35:5&6)
* The Dead will Awake to Everlasting Life (Isaiah 26:19; Daniel 22)
* Ingathering in Israel (Isaiah 11:12, 43:5-6; Jeremiah 16:15, 23:3)
* Material Help for jewish people (Isaiah 60:5, 60:10-12, 61:6)
* Eternal Joy for the Jewish People (Isaiah 51:11)
* jewish people Sought for Spiritual Guidance (Zechariah 8:23)
* Burial for the Enemy Dead (Ezekiel 39:12)
* Drought of the Egyptian River (Isaiah 11:15)
* Yieldings of Fruit Monthly in Israel (Ezekiel 47:12)
* Inheritance for the Tribes of Israel (Ezekiel 47:13-14)
* End of Evil and Sin (Eze. 37, Zeph. 3, Zech. 13,Mal. 3, Isa. 60,Jer. 50.
* Prophecy will return Joel 2:28
* Life of ease (Isa. 49:23, 60:10-12, 61:05 )
* Extraordinary vegetation (Isa. 51:03, Eze. 36:29-30, Amos 9:13)
* Mass conversion of Gentiles prior to coming of Moshiach (On a 10 to 1 ratio - Zech. 8:23)


When all this is accomplished then we will know who the Moshiah is. coffee4
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I gave you what the Tanach says about the Moshiah and how we will recognize him. Then I asked how you would recognize your messiah. You gave this one, which I really don't see how it tells you how to recognize him.

Isa. 45:23. By Myself I swore, righteousness emanated from My mouth, a word, and it shall not be retracted, that to Me shall every knee kneel, every tongue shall swear."

2 Thess 2:3?
 Quoting: Shalhevet


I responded to this already.
 Quoting: Shalhevet



Likewise.

coffee4
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Yes, read above your "Likewise"

I'll be gone for a couple days. May be back on late Sat. coffee4
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No rush.

And sorry for calling you "Mr"...

peace
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Muslim jewish people and Christians all are brothers
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he became a god in the tradition of air gods
the tradition of rome
the air god capital of our planet

brilliant
xoxo
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a planetary god following the tradition of saturn, jupiter planetary gods
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The Roman god...yes, which has nothing to do with the Hebrew's HaShem...LOL
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I'm Christian, and Jesus doesn't promote the Patriarchy (female confinement, harems, concubines, child 'marriages', buggery, etc.).

So, no they are not the same 'god'.
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Mary was 11 when she got pregnant Did God promoted child marriage ? -----Islam only says worship god of Jesus ,Moses ,Adam ,Mohammad ------muslim means one who worship one god -----
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Eleven, in your fantasies.
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24. And My servant David shall be king ...

So you see actually the Bible does tell you the name of the Moshiah, and it isn't J'sus


 Quoting: Shalhevet


* He will be descended from King David (Isaiah 11:1) ...


Revelation 22:16

 .... I am the root and the offspring of David...


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Yes, but his name is "David".... verycool

The scriptures tell you the name of the Moshiah.
 Quoting: Shalhevet


You are absolutely correct.

The OT prophets tell us his name is "David" repeatedly..
How many times does it have to be written before reader's understand his name is "David"????? 1dunno1

Jeremiah 30:9
But they shall serve the LORD their God and David their king, whom I will raise up for them

Ezekiel 34:23
And I will set up over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he shall feed them: he shall feed them and be their shepherd.24 And I, the LORD, will be their God, and my servant David shall be prince among them. I am the LORD; I have spoken 25.They shall dwell in the land that I gave to my servant Jacob, where your fathers lived. They and their children and their children's children shall dwell there forever, and David my servant shall be their prince forever.

Hosea 3:5
Afterward the children of Israel shall return and seek the LORD their God, and David their king, and they shall come in fear to the LORD and to his goodness in the latter days

Amos 9:11
“In that day I will raise up the booth of David that is fallen and repair its breaches, and raise up its ruins and rebuild it as in the days of old,
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BOTTOM-LINE, Christian have been tricked into worshiping a "man" as G-d,

Only Christian's worship a man as G-d.


 Quoting: Alesiah


Jesus taught us to pray to His father- not him.

Perhaps you are mistaken.

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I wish I was mistaken...believe me..
But that's what Christian doctrine teaches..they say G-d manifested in the flesh as JC,,
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"manifested in the flesh"

All of God's children are manifested in the flesh - and we also have souls.

If you aren't of God (if He isn't your heavenly father) then you are Satan's child.

Jesus was our brother. God's children are brothers and sisters -- we are related by our Humanity.

The scriptures state that if you hate your brother, it's the same as hating God.
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Jesus taught us to pray to His father- not him.

Perhaps you are mistaken.

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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 4668772



But that's what Christian doctrine teaches..they say ..
 Quoting: Alesiah


If you become a Christian-

Will you listen to 'them'?

Or

Jesus?...

John 14:28
...my Father is greater than I.


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Become a Christian? Funny..

I have never n my life worshiped JC as G-d. I never will because it's clear the beast is man.

Have I ever praised JC? Sure, I praised JC for leading me to the Father, as in the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Ishmael.

Anyone who worships "man" worships the beast and that's how the dividing has been since the beginning, concerning the worship of man..
Matthew 13:49 "So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just,

Many Christians don't know their own religion's doctrine..
Go to your pastor and ask....who is JC?
If he says JC is G-d then you are in the beast religion because man is not G-d.
However, man was to dominate earth. He certainly has.

2 Corinthians 4:4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.

Who is blinded?

Revelation 12:19,
Revelation 13:14,

Revelation 17:8 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to rise from the bottomless pit and go to destruction. And the dwellers on earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world will marvel to see the beast, because it was and is not and is to come

Revelation 17:11
 Quoting: Alesiah


"the beast is man."

Human beings are not like the other animals, so the "beast" is not a man, any more than a monkey is a man.

The "beast" is the descendants of the ones who committed ~bestiality~ in ancient times (when the Agricultural Canaanites decided to create slave races): their DNA is marked with the genes of monkeys and / or apes. They're Hybrids, in fact (like the Neanderthals and other monsters of old).
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The "mark of the beast" is in their DNA.
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The "mark of the beast" is in their DNA.
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no bible.
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Muslim jewish people and Christians all are brothers
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All humans are. We do not worship the same God.

Who keeps bumping this debunked spam thread?
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24. And My servant David shall be king ...

So you see actually the Bible does tell you the name of the Moshiah, and it isn't J'sus


 Quoting: Shalhevet


* He will be descended from King David (Isaiah 11:1) ...


Revelation 22:16

 .... I am the root and the offspring of David...


)(
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 10272177


Yes, but his name is "David".... verycool

The scriptures tell you the name of the Moshiah.
 Quoting: Shalhevet


You are absolutely correct.

The OT prophets tell us his name is "David" repeatedly..
How many times does it have to be written before reader's understand his name is "David"????? 1dunno1

Jeremiah 30:9
But they shall serve the LORD their God and David their king, whom I will raise up for them

Ezekiel 34:23
And I will set up over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he shall feed them: he shall feed them and be their shepherd.24 And I, the LORD, will be their God, and my servant David shall be prince among them. I am the LORD; I have spoken 25.They shall dwell in the land that I gave to my servant Jacob, where your fathers lived. They and their children and their children's children shall dwell there forever, and David my servant shall be their prince forever.

Hosea 3:5
Afterward the children of Israel shall return and seek the LORD their God, and David their king, and they shall come in fear to the LORD and to his goodness in the latter days

Amos 9:11
“In that day I will raise up the booth of David that is fallen and repair its breaches, and raise up its ruins and rebuild it as in the days of old,
 Quoting: Alesiah


OK, does that mean the two bloodlines are "one" now or two kingdoms will unite and be one again like it was before the split after Solomon's death..
Perhaps with the DNA reference, it means they are mixed. Daniel Chapter 2:43..

IC4U
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well maybe it means we look at what israel is:

According to the Bible, before the united monarchy, the Israelite tribes lived as a confederation under ad hoc charismatic leaders called Judges.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Biblical judges

A biblical judge is "a ruler or a military leader, as well as someone who presided over legal hearings
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

In around 1020 BCE, under extreme threat from foreign peoples, the tribes united to form the first united Kingdom of Israel. Samuel anointed Saul from the tribe of Benjamin as the first king in c. 1020 BCE, but it was David who in c.1006 BCE created a strong unified Israelite monarchy.

David, the second (or third, if Ish-bosheth is counted) King of Israel, established Jerusalem as its national capital 3,000 years ago. Before then, Hebron had been the capital of David's Judah and Mahanaim of Ish-bosheth's Israel, and before that Gibeah had been the capital of the United Monarchy under Saul.
 Quoting: observation


The "Golden Age"


In the Biblical account, David finally succeeds in truly unifying Judah and Israel. Some modern archaeologists believe there was a continued and uninterrupted existence of two distinct cultures and geographic entities, one being Judah, the other Israel, and if there was a political union it possibly had no practical effect on the relationship between the two nations
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

maybe the question is
what is david of judah to the hebrews?
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is david bloodline hebrew
it seems not

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* He will be descended from King David (Isaiah 11:1) ...


Revelation 22:16

 .... I am the root and the offspring of David...


)(
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 10272177


Yes, but his name is "David".... verycool

The scriptures tell you the name of the Moshiah.
 Quoting: Shalhevet


You are absolutely correct.

The OT prophets tell us his name is "David" repeatedly..
How many times does it have to be written before reader's understand his name is "David"????? 1dunno1

Jeremiah 30:9
But they shall serve the LORD their God and David their king, whom I will raise up for them

Ezekiel 34:23
And I will set up over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he shall feed them: he shall feed them and be their shepherd.24 And I, the LORD, will be their God, and my servant David shall be prince among them. I am the LORD; I have spoken 25.They shall dwell in the land that I gave to my servant Jacob, where your fathers lived. They and their children and their children's children shall dwell there forever, and David my servant shall be their prince forever.

Hosea 3:5
Afterward the children of Israel shall return and seek the LORD their God, and David their king, and they shall come in fear to the LORD and to his goodness in the latter days

Amos 9:11
“In that day I will raise up the booth of David that is fallen and repair its breaches, and raise up its ruins and rebuild it as in the days of old,
 Quoting: Alesiah


OK, does that mean the two bloodlines are "one" now or two kingdoms will unite and be one again like it was before the split after Solomon's death..
Perhaps with the DNA reference, it means they are mixed. Daniel Chapter 2:43..

:IC4U:
 Quoting: Alesiah


well maybe it means we look at what israel is:

According to the Bible, before the united monarchy, the Israelite tribes lived as a confederation under ad hoc charismatic leaders called Judges.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Biblical judges

A biblical judge is "a ruler or a military leader, as well as someone who presided over legal hearings
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

In around 1020 BCE, under extreme threat from foreign peoples, the tribes united to form the first united Kingdom of Israel. Samuel anointed Saul from the tribe of Benjamin as the first king in c. 1020 BCE, but it was David who in c.1006 BCE created a strong unified Israelite monarchy.

David, the second (or third, if Ish-bosheth is counted) King of Israel, established Jerusalem as its national capital 3,000 years ago. Before then, Hebron had been the capital of David's Judah and Mahanaim of Ish-bosheth's Israel, and before that Gibeah had been the capital of the United Monarchy under Saul.
 Quoting: observation


The "Golden Age"


In the Biblical account, David finally succeeds in truly unifying Judah and Israel. Some modern archaeologists believe there was a continued and uninterrupted existence of two distinct cultures and geographic entities, one being Judah, the other Israel, and if there was a political union it possibly had no practical effect on the relationship between the two nations
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

maybe the question is
what is david of judah to the hebrews?
 Quoting: aether


is david bloodline hebrew
it seems not

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 Quoting: aether

King David, who is the Prince, is in the tribe of JUDAH, seedline of Judah/Tamar..twin son, (of the breach) Pherez...the first born, was the scarlet thread...Zarah,, wherein the midwife tied a scarlet thread around his wrist, and Zarah pulled his hand back into the womb, and Pherez, then was born....Pherez is the seedline of Christ...and Zarah is the seedline of the Breach...that will repair the nation of Israel..yet to happen...

Ezekiel was the prophet God Almighty sent to the HOUSE OF ISRAEL (not to the house of judah) giving the house of Israel the description/dimensions of the temple...Judah doesn't build the temple....Israel/Joseph/USA does.
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I really don't see how it tells you how to recognize him.

Isa. 45:23. By Myself I swore, righteousness emanated from My mouth, a word, and it shall not be retracted, that to Me shall every knee kneel, every tongue shall swear."

2 Thess 2:3?
 Quoting: Shalhevet


1- When you are on your knees- you will know.
2 - you've read parts of the NT - one more passage shouldn't hurt.

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This is what the moshiah will have to do in order to be recognized as the moshiah...

* World Peace (Isaiah 2:4; Ezekiel 39:9)



When all this is accomplished then we will know who the Moshiah is.
 Quoting: Shalhevet


Indeed - He will be difficult to recognize until all is accomplished.

In the meantime,

Who will be destroyed?...

Daniel 8:25

 ....he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many:


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But that's what Christian doctrine teaches..they say ..
 Quoting: Alesiah


If you become a Christian-

Will you listen to 'them'?

Or

Jesus?...

John 14:28
...my Father is greater than I.


+
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 4668772


Become a Christian? Funny..

I have never n my life worshiped JC as G-d. I never will because it's clear the beast is man.

Have I ever praised JC? Sure, I praised JC for leading me to the Father, as in the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Ishmael.

Anyone who worships "man" worships the beast and that's how the dividing has been since the beginning, concerning the worship of man..
Matthew 13:49 "So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just,

Many Christians don't know their own religion's doctrine..
Go to your pastor and ask....who is JC?
If he says JC is G-d then you are in the beast religion because man is not G-d.
However, man was to dominate earth. He certainly has.

2 Corinthians 4:4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.

Who is blinded?

Revelation 12:19,
Revelation 13:14,

Revelation 17:8 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to rise from the bottomless pit and go to destruction. And the dwellers on earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world will marvel to see the beast, because it was and is not and is to come

Revelation 17:11
 Quoting: Alesiah


"the beast is man."

Human beings are not like the other animals, so the "beast" is not a man, any more than a monkey is a man.

The "beast" is the descendants of the ones who committed ~bestiality~ in ancient times (when the Agricultural Canaanites decided to create slave races): their DNA is marked with the genes of monkeys and / or apes. They're Hybrids, in fact (like the Neanderthals and other monsters of old).
 Quoting: shenandoah 2636202


LOL, oh for heaven sakes..I know you are talking about the Rhesus Monkey Factor..
CHIMPANZEES are blood group A, small percentage are O, never B.
GORILLAS are blood group B, small percent are O, but never A.
The only blood group that humans "have" that those monkeys don't have is the AB blood group... Only HUMANS have that.

However, AB IS found in these:
Orangutan
Gibbon
Baboons
Java macaque

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Yes, but his name is "David".... verycool

The scriptures tell you the name of the Moshiah.
 Quoting: Shalhevet


You are absolutely correct.

The OT prophets tell us his name is "David" repeatedly..
How many times does it have to be written before reader's understand his name is "David"????? 1dunno1

Jeremiah 30:9
But they shall serve the LORD their God and David their king, whom I will raise up for them

Ezekiel 34:23
And I will set up over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he shall feed them: he shall feed them and be their shepherd.24 And I, the LORD, will be their God, and my servant David shall be prince among them. I am the LORD; I have spoken 25.They shall dwell in the land that I gave to my servant Jacob, where your fathers lived. They and their children and their children's children shall dwell there forever, and David my servant shall be their prince forever.

Hosea 3:5
Afterward the children of Israel shall return and seek the LORD their God, and David their king, and they shall come in fear to the LORD and to his goodness in the latter days

Amos 9:11
“In that day I will raise up the booth of David that is fallen and repair its breaches, and raise up its ruins and rebuild it as in the days of old,
 Quoting: Alesiah


OK, does that mean the two bloodlines are "one" now or two kingdoms will unite and be one again like it was before the split after Solomon's death..
Perhaps with the DNA reference, it means they are mixed. Daniel Chapter 2:43..

IC4U
 Quoting: Alesiah


well maybe it means we look at what israel is:

According to the Bible, before the united monarchy, the Israelite tribes lived as a confederation under ad hoc charismatic leaders called Judges.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Biblical judges

A biblical judge is "a ruler or a military leader, as well as someone who presided over legal hearings
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

In around 1020 BCE, under extreme threat from foreign peoples, the tribes united to form the first united Kingdom of Israel. Samuel anointed Saul from the tribe of Benjamin as the first king in c. 1020 BCE, but it was David who in c.1006 BCE created a strong unified Israelite monarchy.

David, the second (or third, if Ish-bosheth is counted) King of Israel, established Jerusalem as its national capital 3,000 years ago. Before then, Hebron had been the capital of David's Judah and Mahanaim of Ish-bosheth's Israel, and before that Gibeah had been the capital of the United Monarchy under Saul.
 Quoting: observation


The "Golden Age"


In the Biblical account, David finally succeeds in truly unifying Judah and Israel. Some modern archaeologists believe there was a continued and uninterrupted existence of two distinct cultures and geographic entities, one being Judah, the other Israel, and if there was a political union it possibly had no practical effect on the relationship between the two nations
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

maybe the question is
what is david of judah to the hebrews?
 Quoting: aether


is david bloodline hebrew
it seems not

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 Quoting: aether

King David, who is the Prince, is in the tribe of JUDAH, seedline of Judah/Tamar..twin son, (of the breach) Pherez...the first born, was the scarlet thread...Zarah,, wherein the midwife tied a scarlet thread around his wrist, and Zarah pulled his hand back into the womb, and Pherez, then was born....Pherez is the seedline of Christ...and Zarah is the seedline of the Breach...that will repair the nation of Israel..yet to happen...

Ezekiel was the prophet God Almighty sent to the HOUSE OF ISRAEL (not to the house of judah) giving the house of Israel the description/dimensions of the temple...Judah doesn't build the temple....Israel/Joseph/USA does.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10739403


Something to think about:

One Group is waiting for Moshiach ben David..
Another Group is waiting for Moshiach ben Joseph..

BTW, wasn't the NT Temple already built?

The NT says it was.. The Temple I speak of was not built of stone, but of flesh.
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The USA? The Super World Power..
NOWTHINK deeper...

Flesh
What is symbolic of flesh in the scriptures?

Clay..

What's the "FEET" of the statue made from in
Daniel Chapter 2?

Iron and CLAY..

What strikes the FEET of the statue causing it to fall?

A STONE..


Mystery Babylon


Recall, David struck the giant Goliath between the eyes with a stone then cut off his head 1 Samuel 17:49-50 and just perhaps....David strikes the feet with a stone as well.

Then, what will happen to the "Temple" made of Clay?

Just saying...

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Flesh
What is symbolic of flesh in the scriptures?

Clay..

What's the "FEET" of the statue made from in
Daniel Chapter 2?

Iron and CLAY..

What strikes the FEET of the statue?
 Quoting: Alesiah


Ahh...

What remains?

Iron?

Or clay?




?
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The USA? The Super World Power..
NOWTHINK deeper...

Flesh
What is symbolic of flesh in the scriptures?

Clay..

What's the "FEET" of the statue made from in
Daniel Chapter 2?

Iron and CLAY..

What strikes the FEET of the statue causing it to fall?

A STONE..


:Mystery Babylon:


Recall, David struck the giant Goliath between the eyes with a stone then cut off his head 1 Samuel 17:49-50 and just perhaps....David strikes the feet with a stone as well.

Then, what will happen to the "Temple" made of Clay?

Just saying...

:IC4U:
 Quoting: Alesiah


We are told if you read it again

Iron = Rome - seed of men - Catholic

Clay = God's people - Protestants.

They shall mingle themselves together but not join/unite.

The clay & iron period is post Protestant Reformation.

Then, v44 calls the toes "kings". This is the "kings of the east" (Rev 16, 6th vial) 1917 when the Orthodox at Moscow fell to revolution of the Vatican's NWO.

God calls the angel that gave Muhammad the Koran Satan (Rev 9).
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now you are asking the same as I was asking yesterday...just a different entity...who are the real hebrews? From what I can tell atm, we have to get to know the ancient hebrews...just imagine getting 1000 years before Christ...lol shit, I would have a hayday with that info!
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funny enough i have never been prompted to discover whom the hebrew`s are because they arrived as a name so late in our history it never seemed important
but
thinking about it
as their stories still effect us
maybe that was not my cleverest decision tounge
 Quoting: aether


what do we know
we know their belief formed them into a collective (tribe) and
their belief paralleled Zoroaster
the bebrew belief is that god is invisible (non material) thus the sky gods (visible planetary gods) worshiped in their region for thousands of years are the nutty gods whom enslave and harm mankind
the hebrews were deists as in: all communicate with god by nature thus dogma and structure that existed to communicate to god within is wrong because it originates from sky god worship
they walked into Canaan to achieve autonomy to express their unpopular of the day belief
to survive opposition from regional powers following their establishment of autonomy they needed an alliance with a regional power and their prophets suggested the royal david bloodline of Judah, a Canaanite blood line and principality that agreed with their belief thus the lion of judah become their protector
the hebrews maintained the belief they were directly by ancestry from our golden age and there would arise a person with information to explain it`s loss thus how to regain our golden age lifestyle
this is the messianic prophecy
the prophecy being now connected to the bloodline of judah reads
when a non hebrew agrees (awareness) with the hebrew belief our golden age will arise
this translates to practical power, as in the past, the hebrews are never strong enough to impose their belief thus always need a powerful believer outside of their tribe to form their belief into universal belief
strangely maybe but this translation of their belief fits modern discovery and all global beliefs except the belief that god once formed as a man
the global belief that god can and will never form as a human is simple true because of the structure and function of our non material and material universe
if you are something (material) by default you are not god
 Quoting: aether

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God of Jesus will order Jesus to kill anti-Christ
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The USA? The Super World Power..
NOWTHINK deeper...

Flesh
What is symbolic of flesh in the scriptures?

Clay..

What's the "FEET" of the statue made from in
Daniel Chapter 2?

Iron and CLAY..

What strikes the FEET of the statue causing it to fall?

A STONE..


Mystery Babylon


Recall, David struck the giant Goliath between the eyes with a stone then cut off his head 1 Samuel 17:49-50 and just perhaps....David strikes the feet with a stone as well.

Then, what will happen to the "Temple" made of Clay?

Just saying...

IC4U
 Quoting: Alesiah


We are told if you read it again

Iron = Rome - seed of men - Catholic

Clay = God's people - Protestants.

They shall mingle themselves together but not join/unite.

The clay & iron period is post Protestant Reformation.

Then, v44 calls the toes "kings". This is the "kings of the east" (Rev 16, 6th vial) 1917 when the Orthodox at Moscow fell to revolution of the Vatican's NWO.

God calls the angel that gave Muhammad the Koran Satan (Rev 9).
 Quoting: Axx 13490691


Yes, I know all this and more...
BUT are THEY G-d's people or the beast?
Knowing that the number of man is 666 and man is represented as clay....

The "10 Commandments" were set in "STONE" by the finger of G-d..Exodus 31:18, 34:1

It's the "STONE" that strikes the feet + "10 TOES" made of IRON and CLAY...

What about that 4th beast, the iron and it's feet??

Daniel 7:7
After this I saw in the night visions, and behold, a fourth beast, terrifying and dreadful and exceedingly strong. It had great iron teeth; it devoured and broke in pieces and stamped what was left with its feet. It was different from all the beasts that were before it, and it had ten horns.
19“Then I desired to know the truth about the fourth beast, which was different from all the rest, exceedingly terrifying, with its teeth of iron and claws of bronze, and which devoured and broke in pieces and stamped what was left with its feet.

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The fourth beast had bronze claws 10, horns 10 and iron teeth 32...
The claws...bronze/copper/Venus
The teeth...iron/Mars
The ten horns...horns are living bone..
Living bone continues to grow throughout the life of the beast...

Gabriel holds the sun/solar and moon/lunar in his hands..

ONE hand to the east- Islamic Calendar/lunar:
Muslim 5 pillars of faith..
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

ONE hand to the west Gregorian Calendar/Solar
Protestant 5 solas..
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

32 Iron Teeth
32 Catholic Dioceses in USA..
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32 teeth:

32 teeth


The feet/toes...........iron/clay..10
The beast= Trampled the "residue" with it's feet..

Daniel 2:41 And as you saw the feet and toes, partly of potter's clay and partly of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom, but some of the firmness of iron shall be in it, just as you saw iron mixed with the soft clay.
42And as the toes of the feet were partly iron and partly clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly brittle
43 As you saw the iron mixed with soft clay, so they will mix with one another in marriage, but they will not hold together, just as iron does not mix with clay.
45just as you saw that a stone was cut from a mountain by no human hand, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold. A great God has made known to the king what shall be after this.


The dream is certain, and its interpretation sure.


The clay "IS" the G-d in the flesh theory.
J.ews and Muslims do not worship clay..

jes-s


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