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Atom-Boy (OP) User ID: 11279027 Japan 03/19/2012 01:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | @Burt, i agree with you that the official Soviet Numbers are far to low, sadly we have no real Data only estimations for the Adults but we have Numbers for the Children and they are really sad, we can speak about ca. 5.000 bad affected Kids, this is a lot and we need to ask us why this happened and what is the difference to F'Shima! Many People here think that the "glorious Soviet Union" done everything possible to avoid harm for their Citizens, but they deadly failed, they send countless People to do useless Work into the Reactor just to calm down the West, also the Evacuation of the People came to late! Another big failure was and is that the Ukraine have no Money to take care the affected People and the West denied their Responsibility! G.Y.!B.E. |
Burt Gummer User ID: 7702124 United States 03/19/2012 02:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | @Burt, Quoting: Atom-Boy i agree with you that the official Soviet Numbers are far to low, sadly we have no real Data only estimations for the Adults but we have Numbers for the Children and they are really sad, we can speak about ca. 5.000 bad affected Kids, this is a lot and we need to ask us why this happened and what is the difference to F'Shima! Many People here think that the "glorious Soviet Union" done everything possible to avoid harm for their Citizens, but they deadly failed, they send countless People to do useless Work into the Reactor just to calm down the West, also the Evacuation of the People came to late! Another big failure was and is that the Ukraine have no Money to take care the affected People and the West denied their Responsibility! Why do you persist in trying to convince everyone about something that you know isn't true? Why???? 1) Yes....there are data estimations for the adults. Did you watch the videos I posted? Apparently not. 100's of THOUSANDS HAVE DIED. 2) MANY MANY MANY more than 5000 kids have been affected. All over the Baltic states the radiation was spread. Belarus got some of the WORST of the fallout from Chernobyl. 3) Yes....they sent countless VOLUNTEERS into the reactor. These people KNEW they would die but did it anyway.....but it wasn't to "calm down the West"....it was to SAVE EUROPE and the Baltic states from fallout. 4) The West was not responsible for what happened in the USSR during the Cold War. Nor was it about "calming down the West". What a bunch of condescending garbage! 5) Again.....I PERSONALLY KNOW people who were involved in the cleanup and those handful of people say MOST EVERYONE involved with the direct cleanup DIED. Many have died years later from complications of the radiation. You are full of crap if you try to say otherwise and there is plenty of data out there to back these death numbers up. So...please.....don't sit here and try to post bullsh*t propaganda and make everything seem like Fukushima is not as bad....or try to minimize Chernobyl as nothing big. You had FOUR reactors go critical......not just one like Chernobyl. In addition you had stored spent fuel rods blown everywhere by the explosions...and one had MOX fuel in it.....so it was FAR WORSE than just the reactors blowing up alone. Really....I can't even type anymore.....you are just being paid to shill for the government or TEPCO and I find that disgusting and repulsive. :chern: Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 03/19/2012 02:11 AM |
Atom-Boy (OP) User ID: 11279027 Japan 03/19/2012 02:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is very easy because i am not nativ in English! All 3 Contaiments in F'Shima are still intact, the molten Core is protected, in Chernobyl the Core and the Containment itself exploded and burned afterwards for at least 10 Days in a hot Graphit Fire, the radioactive Particles climbed because of the Fire very high and polluted whole Europe with not only Cesium but with the full range of Radiactive Products! This do not happened in F'Shima, there was a Hydrogene Explosion outside of the Contaiment but not inside, the worst Accident was avoided, some People said because of God and other said because of Aliens and i think because of the Work of the People inside the Plant! I never said or wrote that Fukushima is a harmless Accident, it is horrible and has a huge Impact on our Lifes here! Last Edited by The real and almighty Atom-Boy on 03/19/2012 02:17 AM G.Y.!B.E. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12142824 Canada 03/19/2012 02:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not to mention that the population of Tokyo is like nothing seen in Belarus and north Ukraine, and it didn't get spared with favorable winds during the initial blasts, nor are they protecting citizens there from the various assaults on their health that continue now... The fallout still on the buildings, and roads, and playgrounds, the contaminated tapwater, produce, meat, fish, milk. The rains. The snows. The pollen (now pollen season has started. Those contaminated trees know not what they do) the ash (those blue collar incinerator workers probably do not realize either). the Japanese people don't need lies and propped up corpses. They need the truth of the situation to be as widely disseminated as possible so that they may be protected as best as is now possible. Japan is not its government. Stop protecting it. Japan is not its industry. Stop protecting it. Japan is its people, especially its children. PROTECT THEM. |
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Burt Gummer User ID: 7702124 United States 03/19/2012 02:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | @ Burt, i think you don't understand me, Quoting: Atom-Boy this is very easy because i am not nativ in English! All 3 Contaiments in F'Shima are still intact, the molten Core is protected, in Chernobyl the Core and the Containment itself exploded and burned afterwards for at least 10 Days in a hot Graphit Fire, the radioactive Particles climbed because of the Fire very high and polluted whole Europe with not only Cesium but with the full range of Radiactive Products! This do not happened in F'Shima, there was a Hydrogene Explosion outside of the Contaiment but not inside, the worst Accident was avoided, some People said because of God and other said because of Aliens and i think because of the Work of the People inside the Plant! I understand you fine. All 3 Fukushima reactors are contained huh???? LIAR! I guess all that radiation everywhere is just our imagination. Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 03/19/2012 02:17 AM |
Atom-Boy (OP) User ID: 11279027 Japan 03/19/2012 02:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Than bring Evidence, prove that all three Containments are gone and the Corium is in the open Air!!! Do it, if you can! Edited because of wrong quoting! Last Edited by The real and almighty Atom-Boy on 03/19/2012 02:51 AM G.Y.!B.E. |
Burt Gummer User ID: 7702124 United States 03/19/2012 02:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | @ Burt, i think you don't understand me, Quoting: Atom-Boy this is very easy because i am not nativ in English! All 3 Contaiments in F'Shima are still intact, the molten Core is protected, in Chernobyl the Core and the Containment itself exploded and burned afterwards for at least 10 Days in a hot Graphit Fire, the radioactive Particles climbed because of the Fire very high and polluted whole Europe with not only Cesium but with the full range of Radiactive Products! This do not happened in F'Shima, there was a Hydrogene Explosion outside of the Contaiment but not inside, the worst Accident was avoided, some People said because of God and other said because of Aliens and i think because of the Work of the People inside the Plant! I understand you fine. All 3 Fukushima reactors are contained huh???? LIAR! I guess all that radiation everywhere is just our imagination. |
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Atom-Boy (OP) User ID: 11279027 Japan 03/19/2012 02:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | @ Burt, why you don't look for the average, look, this is my own Channel and all the People here get similar Amounts! Do you saw the readings for Chernobyl? Last Edited by The real and almighty Atom-Boy on 03/19/2012 02:43 AM G.Y.!B.E. |
Atom-Boy (OP) User ID: 11279027 Japan 03/19/2012 02:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a website of an actual Japanese person. See if you can spot the difference: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12142824 Fukushima-diary.com Do People like you never think about why this Channels, Fuku-Diary and Brenenews are not significant in and for the real Discussion? Are you not surprised that on both Channels not even one real Technician, Engineer or Med Doc is active? Do you know that you get banned on div Forums when you mentioned, linked or quoted both Pages? Last Edited by The real and almighty Atom-Boy on 03/19/2012 02:48 AM G.Y.!B.E. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12539345 Australia 03/19/2012 02:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh atom-boy, how wrong you are..... Its not your fault, its the fault of your close-knit society, its the fault of believing every word your government tells you. Its the fault of your culture to go along with the story even though you know its a bullshit story. Oh, it could be that we have the "other" Atom-boy on here today, apparently there is another one mascurading. Fukushima is as bad as bad can be. In fact it is worse. The japanese, even the entire world at large are not being informed as to the true extent of damage and true extent of contamination. The truth is a horrible, gastly picture of doom. Japan is in debt to the tune of 3.5 trillion. AND on top of that nobody wants to buy their contaminated goods. You are feeding radioactive materials to your children. No, we should not be comparing fukushima to chernobyl, that is ridiculous. Fukushima is a whole different ball game. The truth will set you free, but it will also change the way you think. It will let you see just how short our lives are, it will let you see just exactly how cheap our childrens lives are. You can beleive anything you want to its your life after all. We have been told so many many lies that now people all over the world are starting to question everything we are being told. And the results are that people no longer are willing to go along with the established concensus. We are fighting back. Even if it means death, even if it means going back to the "dark ages" it is preffered then living as a robot with no freedom, no faith, and no life. Our rock that floats in the depths of space, our rock that sustai9ns our life, is dying, it is being killed for money, so that a few may live in wealth, at the expense of history, at the expense of nature, at the expense of a billion miracles, our rock is our only home, there is no other. You, shill, may beleive anything you wish, you can run naked in the streets if you wish. But you cannot, not now, even try to change what has begun. And what has begun will continue, it will follow its own course. Change is coming, and you and your "words" cannot stop it. You cannot stop the sun from shining, you cannot stop the wind, and you will not stop the will of a billion people who have had enough of our lives being dictated by a few. |
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Atom-Boy (OP) User ID: 11279027 Japan 03/19/2012 03:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | @Anonymous Coward User ID: 12539345 Many Times i really think that the People want to misunderstand me, i never wrote that the Situation is harmless, that we will see no Death and that everything is fine! When we discuss our Demand with the Nuclear Industrial Complex our Sources must work 100% well, we can't fail again like we failed already once after Chernobyl! I am against the use of Nuclear Energy because our Brains are still too small to understand Fusion and Fission, my Life is very bad affected because of the Accident and i feel not really comfortable to have even more Plants in this seismic Zone! I really hate it that there is no possibility for a real Discussion anymore, Glp was not always that stupid! Chernobyl was and is much worse than F'Shima and the People here can call me Shill, Asshole or "What so ever" but the Facts do not change! After Chernobyl i moved/ migrate to the south of Portugal to avoid harm from the Fall Out, after 03/11 i needed to kick my Wife and we escaped to Thailand/ Cambodia but after realizing the Facts i returned and after studying this Accident i know that i am right! G.Y.!B.E. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12142824 Canada 03/19/2012 03:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a website of an actual Japanese person. See if you can spot the difference: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12142824 Fukushima-diary.com Do People like you never think about why this Channels, Fuku-Diary and Brenenews are not significant in and for the real Discussion? Are you not surprised that on both Channels not even one real Technician, Engineer or Med Doc is active? Do you know that you get banned on div Forums when you mentioned, linked or quoted both Pages? did you just list a bunch of people who get paid by the nuclear industry and ask me what they had against a news aggregator site that is anti-nuclear, and the blog of a radiation victim? its the same concern you have. Got to pay the bills somehow right? And if you spent your life in a career, you'll be damned if you're even going to consider that what youge been doing is tantamount to murder, just because some millions of civilians just got plastered 3 reactors and 4 spent fuel pools' fallout. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12142824 Canada 03/19/2012 03:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to peaceandhealthblog.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211208 United States 03/19/2012 03:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to en.wikipedia.org] There is nothing on earth that can stop the china syndrome from happening at Fukushima. WE were all lied to about Chernobyl and Three Mile Island and Fukushima. Three feet of Stainless steel can not stop the molten core from burning through. [link to www.vesuvius.com] A metal ladle can not hold moten steel. Fire brick holds the molten material. The steel shell of the ladle holds the fire brick. There is no fire brick in the stainless steel containment. Therefore there is NOTHING to stop the molten core from melting through. Stainless steel can not stop it without a fire brick liner. That means you have china syndrome occuring as we speak. You can believe all the government lies about the severity if you want. I don't for one second. |
Ozicell User ID: 12092492 Australia 03/19/2012 03:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have you watched the video updates from Fairewinds? [link to www.fairewinds.com] That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 749019 Canada 03/19/2012 04:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Than bring Evidence, prove that all three Containments are gone and the Corium is in the open Air!!! Do it, if you can! Edited because of wrong quoting! I can... Just the simple fact that no human being can even get close enough to even look has only one conclusion. Meltdown The corium is underground fool....the SFP's are exposed to open air. I love how you conveniently "forgot" about the industrial endoscope inserted into Unit 2....and guess what, no fuel, no water. I wonder where it went....derr People arent stupid about this anymore Atom Boy and youre making a damn fool of yourself. Have fun...... |
Atom-Boy (OP) User ID: 11279027 Japan 03/19/2012 04:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Than bring Evidence, prove that all three Containments are gone and the Corium is in the open Air!!! Do it, if you can! Edited because of wrong quoting! I can... Just the simple fact that no human being can even get close enough to even look has only one conclusion. Meltdown The corium is underground fool....the SFP's are exposed to open air. I love how you conveniently "forgot" about the industrial endoscope inserted into Unit 2....and guess what, no fuel, no water. I wonder where it went....derr People arent stupid about this anymore Atom Boy and youre making a damn fool of yourself. Have fun...... @Remember this, how do you explain the Photos and the Videos? All Faked, hmmm, i really doubt this: [link to www.tepco.co.jp] Of course there was a Melt-Down but as long as this Stuff is inside of the Containment as long i don't fear the Tomorrow! Last Edited by The real and almighty Atom-Boy on 03/19/2012 04:31 AM G.Y.!B.E. |
Atom-Boy (OP) User ID: 11279027 Japan 03/19/2012 04:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is with the MOX, for example? When that Stuff is gone we would see already Hundreds of Thousand Deaths People but we do not, ergo: The Stuff is still very well! Do you know what we miss too, like Strontium and Plutonium, the amounts we discovered until today are not enough to prove a failed Containment/ SFP! So, i call "F'Shima is worse than Chernobyl" Bullunko, it cant be the truth! Here are the actual Data from the official Monitoring: [link to radioactivity.mext.go.jp] They are nearly all very low, only the Zone around of the Plant is gone! Last Edited by The real and almighty Atom-Boy on 03/19/2012 04:44 AM G.Y.!B.E. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6565493 United States 03/19/2012 04:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not Melt Down it's Melt-Through = China Syndrome [link to www.yomiuri.co.jp] [link to www.abc.net.au] [link to www.youtube.com] |
Atom-Boy (OP) User ID: 11279027 Japan 03/19/2012 04:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not Melt Down it's Melt-Through = China Syndrome Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6565493 [link to www.yomiuri.co.jp] [link to www.abc.net.au] [link to www.youtube.com] You should read what you are Posting: Nuclear fuel in three reactors at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant has possibly melted through pressure vessels and accumulated at the bottom of outer containment vessels, according to a government report obtained Tuesday by The Yomiuri Shimbun. [link to www.yomiuri.co.jp] Last Edited by The real and almighty Atom-Boy on 03/19/2012 05:01 AM G.Y.!B.E. |
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