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If one year from today, nothing has changed...

 
socraticwisdom
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If one year from today, nothing has changed...
will everybody who expects change be so infuriated at the simplicity of it all that they force one?

I've wanted one good discussion about everything being self-fulfilling for awhile. Make it happen eh?
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Re: If one year from today, nothing has changed...
I have decided that if nothing happens this year , I am outa here...I have enough info if something happens and I have stuff stored.

It all does my head in a bit now n then, so I will happily go back to being a sheeple
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Re: If one year from today, nothing has changed...
What is outta here? Moving? Worse?

It just seems like everyone wants to be the guy who gets it right, and moreso, even if you don't believe in a great change, the date 12/21/12 is still in the back of your mind.


So if/when everyone is wrong, and the date passes, what will the people do? Carry on? Make a new date? Although it's likely as I'm sure it's happened before, there's no way to come up with a new date that will stick in people's heads nearly as strongly as this one.

The only choice is to cause change. Scary stuff.
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Re: If one year from today, nothing has changed...
Unfortunately most people don't really want change or at least they don't realize they do...
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Re: If one year from today, nothing has changed...
will everybody who expects change be so infuriated at the simplicity of it all that they force one?

I've wanted one good discussion about everything being self-fulfilling for awhile. Make it happen eh?
 Quoting: socraticwisdom


for me, its not that i'll be so angry....its that i will start to wake up in a different way.

some things, in my mind, my still ring-true....but some will definitely change by the end of this year, whether something happens or not.
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Re: If one year from today, nothing has changed...
What is outta here? Moving? Worse?

It just seems like everyone wants to be the guy who gets it right, and moreso, even if you don't believe in a great change, the date 12/21/12 is still in the back of your mind.


So if/when everyone is wrong, and the date passes, what will the people do? Carry on? Make a new date? Although it's likely as I'm sure it's happened before, there's no way to come up with a new date that will stick in people's heads nearly as strongly as this one.

The only choice is to cause change. Scary stuff.
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LOL...I will just not be obsessing about BS on the internet.

I am seriously thinking about shutting down the internet and getting rid of them with the TV...the bottom of the deep blue sea sounds like a good place but I dont wanna hurt the little fishies
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Re: If one year from today, nothing has changed...
I don't believe that date means anything.

If everything stayed the same for a year any year, I'd get bored. Luckily, that never happens. Life is always interesting and unexpected stuff happens way more often than once a year.

I'm worried that things are going to get worse...in general. Not particularly by next year, i guess i see at least 5 years or more of hard times, and the start has been gradual and may continue that way for some time, as politicians try to delay the inevitable. But one big event no one can control could change all that at any time. I sense we are in a vulnerable place ... Environmentally, financially and societally. but I have hope that things are going to get better, without a lot of suffering. Not a lot of hope, but I always have some... You have to.

Whatever happens, not only will I deal with it, but I will find small joys in my life to take thorough pleasure in. Hopefully they are not "very small joys" but i can always find something that brightens my heat. I search for it if things get too hard. I always find some joy in life. Its who I am.
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Re: If one year from today, nothing has changed...
I don't believe that date means anything.

If everything stayed the same for a year any year, I'd get bored. Luckily, that never happens. Life is always interesting and unexpected stuff happens way more often than once a year.

I'm worried that things are going to get worse...in general. Not particularly by next year, i guess i see at least 5 years or more of hard times, and the start has been gradual and may continue that way for some time, as politicians try to delay the inevitable. But one big event no one can control could change all that at any time. I sense we are in a vulnerable place ... Environmentally, financially and societally. but I have hope that things are going to get better, without a lot of suffering. Not a lot of hope, but I always have some... You have to.

Whatever happens, not only will I deal with it, but I will find small joys in my life to take thorough pleasure in. Hopefully they are not "very small joys" but i can always find something that brightens my heat. I search for it if things get too hard. I always find some joy in life. Its who I am.
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Isn't having things getting worse necessarily keeping things the same way they are now? If what you say is true, about a gradual change and such, then no matter what unique events occur year to year aren't things still staying the same?

It's that idea that I fear people will take hold of. A large group noticing the downward spiral provoked by an influential person could have disasterous results, no?

Last Edited by socraticwisdom on 03/19/2012 04:15 AM
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Re: If one year from today, nothing has changed...
Happens or not I'm gonna start eating my big pile of canned high sodium food starting dec 21, one can at a meal lol

I wouldn't be surprised if nothing spectacular happens on that very day. What Mayans saw coming might be happening in a parellel dimension and will only affect us in a different way than we expected.

Edgar Cayce predicted a major spiritual warfare taking place in the year of 1999, while to our physical eyes nothing happened, even y2k bug was quieter than a dud.

Interesting time we are in, there are many on-going changes that's reshaping who we are every day.

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Re: If one year from today, nothing has changed...
Change is guaranteed, it's called entropy.

And the more disordered a system is, the larger its entropy.
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Re: If one year from today, nothing has changed...
there is something happening, but it's like a tsunami in deep ocean.

there's no definite sign that there is anything happening out there and it's just another ordinary repetitive day on circular existence earth.

7 billion cannot survive too much longer with corporate consumption of resources. This is the only real proof you will need to know that there MOST DEFINITELY IS a massive change well and truly on it's way.
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Re: If one year from today, nothing has changed...
I don't believe that date means anything.

If everything stayed the same for a year any year, I'd get bored. Luckily, that never happens. Life is always interesting and unexpected stuff happens way more often than once a year.

I'm worried that things are going to get worse...in general. Not particularly by next year, i guess i see at least 5 years or more of hard times, and the start has been gradual and may continue that way for some time, as politicians try to delay the inevitable. But one big event no one can control could change all that at any time. I sense we are in a vulnerable place ... Environmentally, financially and societally. but I have hope that things are going to get better, without a lot of suffering. Not a lot of hope, but I always have some... You have to.

Whatever happens, not only will I deal with it, but I will find small joys in my life to take thorough pleasure in. Hopefully they are not "very small joys" but i can always find something that brightens my heat. I search for it if things get too hard. I always find some joy in life. Its who I am.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12142824


Isn't having things getting worse necessarily keeping things the same way they are now? If what you say is true, about a gradual change and such, then no matter what unique events occur year to year aren't things still staying the same?

It's that idea that I fear people will take hold of. A large group noticing the downward spiral provoked by an influential person could have disasterous results, no?
 Quoting: socraticwisdom


I don't know if I totally understand your question. If you would plot "humanity's life quality" on an index like a stock and it goes up and down a bit every little while and after 5 years the average is considerably lower than now, I'd call that a long term change and a bunch of short term changes. Do you mean you are feeling like you are waiting for something transformative, like a qualitative change? That's more personal because it depends on your reaction to an event or series of events. We don't all experience that at once.

How can I be so sure? I had mine already, and when the event happened I thought it would change everyone else too, I thought that the event fundamentally changed life on earth so radically we all ell must deal with this new reality. I still think that.

But chances are you are probably even having triple guessing what event I'm referring to.




It was when the Fukushima nuclear reactors started melting down and exploding.



I am sure it changed the world, yet for most it seems a distant thought. Even on glp. They say thus may because it is "slow doom" and glp wss expecting something a bit more like movie doom. Honestly I don't know why people did not see it as transformative.

The day you feel something transformative has happened, you'll be chsnged forever and much. It will be ee otgers wornt react n
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Re: If one year from today, nothing has changed...
End of my post crappd out

It was supposed to say,

You'll be changed forever. But other people won't barely notice. Even many on glp. Its eery.
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Re: If one year from today, nothing has changed...
If nothing happens I'm inserting myself back into the Matrix.
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Re: If one year from today, nothing has changed...
You were on to it with the stock market metaphor. Although in a year from now, we could be 'lower' than we are now, the group morale, as that is the best way I can think to word it, would still be about the same. We'd keep pushing forward, thinking that the next man in or next big idea will be the one that digs us out of the rut. To me, it's the same society.


However, if we continue the stock market comparison, if we simply rise and fall to the point where the sheeple are content with the ruts as long as 'peaks' follow. After all, it's not like EVERYthing could just get worse forever. There is always a silver lining, and with it, people who praise the contributors to it.
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