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HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!! --------- TPTB have leaked tomorrows election results on a local news site | |
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Phennommennonn Forum Administrator  03/20/2012 02:34 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I emailed them and got this response: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1640514 ________________________________________ Not the future…just test data… The numbers you saw were routine test data from the Associated Press. That feed last week was for members to test election data display. They are always zeroed out several hours prior to the closing of the polls on election day. The links to the LIVE election data are then published across every page of the web site. With feeds of results going to so many different locations on election night it’s important to be sure all systems are updating properly. We certainly apologize for any misunderstanding, but please rest assured we will not have any election results until the polls actually close in Illinois on Tuesday March 20, 2012. Sincerely, Kevin Carpenter Manager of Online Operations WLS-TV _____________________________________ So, what do you guys think? Is it plausible or is he lying? :BSairlinez8: Last Edited by Phennommennonn on 03/20/2012 02:48 AM political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12799413 Canada03/20/2012 02:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I emailed them and got this response: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1640514 ________________________________________ Not the future…just test data… The numbers you saw were routine test data from the Associated Press. That feed last week was for members to test election data display. They are always zeroed out several hours prior to the closing of the polls on election day. The links to the LIVE election data are then published across every page of the web site. With feeds of results going to so many different locations on election night it’s important to be sure all systems are updating properly. We certainly apologize for any misunderstanding, but please rest assured we will not have any election results until the polls actually close in Illinois on Tuesday March 20, 2012. Sincerely, Kevin Carpenter Manager of Online Operations WLS-TV _____________________________________ So, what do you guys think? Is it plausible or is he lying? They took it down when it went viral right? lol |
| The Brandon User ID: 1391571  United States03/20/2012 02:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Legit question: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550737 Is it POSSIBLE that that page is a pre-created template and the values in there are just place holder numbers for the template until the real numbers are in at which point the real numbers would be entered? Is that absolutely IMPOSSIBLE?! Not impossible, just like it's not absolutely IMPOSSIBLE for a man to fall out of a plane and have his parachute malfunction and still live (it's happened!). But, it's highly improbable. Think about it: why would anyone enter a bunch of random placeholder numbers and balanced percentages rather than just leaving them all blank? 1) It's additional and entirely superfluous work that serves no useful function. 2) If there are already random numbers in place it would be much easier to lose one's place when entering the "real" data at a later time. "There wouldn’t be such a thing as counterfeit gold if there were no real gold somewhere." -–Sufi Proverb |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12784368  United Kingdom03/20/2012 02:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I emailed them and got this response: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1640514 ________________________________________ Not the future…just test data… The numbers you saw were routine test data from the Associated Press. That feed last week was for members to test election data display. They are always zeroed out several hours prior to the closing of the polls on election day. The links to the LIVE election data are then published across every page of the web site. With feeds of results going to so many different locations on election night it’s important to be sure all systems are updating properly. We certainly apologize for any misunderstanding, but please rest assured we will not have any election results until the polls actually close in Illinois on Tuesday March 20, 2012. Sincerely, Kevin Carpenter Manager of Online Operations WLS-TV _____________________________________ So, what do you guys think? Is it plausible or is he lying? :BSaitlinesWS3:  |
| Lumen User ID: 12811117  Australia03/20/2012 02:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| ggb User ID: 12623407 United Kingdom03/20/2012 02:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I emailed them and got this response: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1640514 ________________________________________ Not the future…just test data… The numbers you saw were routine test data from the Associated Press. That feed last week was for members to test election data display. They are always zeroed out several hours prior to the closing of the polls on election day. The links to the LIVE election data are then published across every page of the web site. With feeds of results going to so many different locations on election night it’s important to be sure all systems are updating properly. We certainly apologize for any misunderstanding, but please rest assured we will not have any election results until the polls actually close in Illinois on Tuesday March 20, 2012. Sincerely, Kevin Carpenter Manager of Online Operations WLS-TV _____________________________________ So, what do you guys think? Is it plausible or is he lying? well i still got the page open is there anything i can do to check the page (inspect element/chrome) or summit? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12784368 United Kingdom03/20/2012 02:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I emailed them and got this response: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1640514 ________________________________________ Not the future…just test data… The numbers you saw were routine test data from the Associated Press. That feed last week was for members to test election data display. They are always zeroed out several hours prior to the closing of the polls on election day. The links to the LIVE election data are then published across every page of the web site. With feeds of results going to so many different locations on election night it’s important to be sure all systems are updating properly. We certainly apologize for any misunderstanding, but please rest assured we will not have any election results until the polls actually close in Illinois on Tuesday March 20, 2012. Sincerely, Kevin Carpenter Manager of Online Operations WLS-TV _____________________________________ So, what do you guys think? Is it plausible or is he lying? well i still got the page open is there anything i can do to check the page (inspect element/chrome) or summit? I would if you have firefox click File > save page as > web page, complete. |
| Dark Match Jones User ID: 12795453 United States03/20/2012 02:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I emailed them and got this response: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1640514 ________________________________________ Not the future…just test data… The numbers you saw were routine test data from the Associated Press. That feed last week was for members to test election data display. They are always zeroed out several hours prior to the closing of the polls on election day. The links to the LIVE election data are then published across every page of the web site. With feeds of results going to so many different locations on election night it’s important to be sure all systems are updating properly. We certainly apologize for any misunderstanding, but please rest assured we will not have any election results until the polls actually close in Illinois on Tuesday March 20, 2012. Sincerely, Kevin Carpenter Manager of Online Operations WLS-TV _____________________________________ So, what do you guys think? Is it plausible or is he lying? Sadly, it doesn't matter. We could be bombed by our own government, and then they'd put out a press release saying..."We weren't bombing anyone, we were just making a really big swimming pool." And some people would believe that the government was building a really big pool...and others would know it was a bomb...and others would blame Nibiru. As much as I'm exaggerating with this example...at the same time, I'm really not. "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12799413 Canada03/20/2012 02:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11714381 United States03/20/2012 02:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I emailed them and got this response: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1640514 ________________________________________ Not the future…just test data… The numbers you saw were routine test data from the Associated Press. That feed last week was for members to test election data display. They are always zeroed out several hours prior to the closing of the polls on election day. The links to the LIVE election data are then published across every page of the web site. With feeds of results going to so many different locations on election night it’s important to be sure all systems are updating properly. We certainly apologize for any misunderstanding, but please rest assured we will not have any election results until the polls actually close in Illinois on Tuesday March 20, 2012. Sincerely, Kevin Carpenter Manager of Online Operations WLS-TV _____________________________________ So, what do you guys think? Is it plausible or is he lying? I do not see the question that you asked. Post your question. The associated press is giving them exact #s for all of the election candidates to test? WTF are you kidding me? We arent talking about any feed from last week either! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10430912 United States03/20/2012 02:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From ABC: "The numbers you saw were routine test data from the Associated Press. That feed was only for members to test election data display. The numbers are always zeroed out several hours prior to the closing of the polls on election day. Links to the LIVE election data are then published across every page of the web site. Because the feed of the results is going to so many different platforms (Web, mobile, apps, etc) on election night it's important to be sure all systems are updating." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12820700 United States03/20/2012 02:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I emailed them and got this response: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1640514 ________________________________________ Not the future…just test data… The numbers you saw were routine test data from the Associated Press. That feed last week was for members to test election data display. They are always zeroed out several hours prior to the closing of the polls on election day. The links to the LIVE election data are then published across every page of the web site. With feeds of results going to so many different locations on election night it’s important to be sure all systems are updating properly. We certainly apologize for any misunderstanding, but please rest assured we will not have any election results until the polls actually close in Illinois on Tuesday March 20, 2012. Sincerely, Kevin Carpenter Manager of Online Operations WLS-TV _____________________________________ So, what do you guys think? Is it plausible or is he lying? They took it down when it went viral right? lol I guess the manager of online operations works the night shift? Or maybe, his boss called him, after his handlers callled him, and had him hustle his ass up to the station for damage control Complete bullsh*t |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550737 United States03/20/2012 02:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Legit question: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550737 Is it POSSIBLE that that page is a pre-created template and the values in there are just place holder numbers for the template until the real numbers are in at which point the real numbers would be entered? Is that absolutely IMPOSSIBLE?! Not impossible, just like it's not absolutely IMPOSSIBLE for a man to fall out of a plane and have his parachute malfunction and still live (it's happened!). But, it's highly improbable. Think about it: why would anyone enter a bunch of random placeholder numbers and balanced percentages rather than just leaving them all blank? 1) It's additional and entirely superfluous work that serves no useful function. 2) If there are already random numbers in place it would be much easier to lose one's place when entering the "real" data at a later time. Why? Beacuse the template contains numbers and percentage fields associated with those numbers. Values need to be entered to ensure the formulas are all working. As an I.T. Consultant by trade, I believe the explaination just given by the station. The've just echoed my point here. You are all freaking out over a routine test template. |
| Dark Match Jones User ID: 12795453 United States03/20/2012 02:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I emailed them and got this response: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1640514 ________________________________________ Not the future…just test data… The numbers you saw were routine test data from the Associated Press. That feed last week was for members to test election data display. They are always zeroed out several hours prior to the closing of the polls on election day. The links to the LIVE election data are then published across every page of the web site. With feeds of results going to so many different locations on election night it’s important to be sure all systems are updating properly. We certainly apologize for any misunderstanding, but please rest assured we will not have any election results until the polls actually close in Illinois on Tuesday March 20, 2012. Sincerely, Kevin Carpenter Manager of Online Operations WLS-TV _____________________________________ So, what do you guys think? Is it plausible or is he lying? They took it down when it went viral right? lol I guess the manager of online operations works the night shift? Or maybe, his boss called him, after his handlers callled him, and had him hustle his ass up to the station for damage control Complete bullsh*t It was pretty quick spin control. And they wonder why people question everything. Needs to be more people doing it, regardless to whether it was just a legitimate error, or a true sign of corruption. Gotta keep trying to make 'em honest somehow... "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6918925 Australia03/20/2012 02:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550737 United States03/20/2012 02:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I emailed them and got this response: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1640514 ________________________________________ Not the future…just test data… The numbers you saw were routine test data from the Associated Press. That feed last week was for members to test election data display. They are always zeroed out several hours prior to the closing of the polls on election day. The links to the LIVE election data are then published across every page of the web site. With feeds of results going to so many different locations on election night it’s important to be sure all systems are updating properly. We certainly apologize for any misunderstanding, but please rest assured we will not have any election results until the polls actually close in Illinois on Tuesday March 20, 2012. Sincerely, Kevin Carpenter Manager of Online Operations WLS-TV _____________________________________ So, what do you guys think? Is it plausible or is he lying? As an I.T. Consultant by trade, this explaination makes perfect logical sense and I accept it as it confirms my suspicions from the start. Some of you will call me a shill for this. But I'm not. I see conspiracy where conspiracy is reasonable. I dont suspect it here. You dont have to believe me either. Cheers. |
| Ponytailjones User ID: 12168657 Canada03/20/2012 02:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Think about it: why would anyone enter a bunch of random placeholder numbers and balanced percentages rather than just leaving them all blank? Quoting: The Brandon Because you want to make sure it all works, and is error free? You can't test how your website interacts with the database or whatever if you have all zeros for everything. Long before this 'excuse' was offered people were pointing out that it couldn't possibly be tomorrows data because it had lots of people voting for Buddy Roemer and Rick Perry. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12799413 Canada03/20/2012 02:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Legit question: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550737 Is it POSSIBLE that that page is a pre-created template and the values in there are just place holder numbers for the template until the real numbers are in at which point the real numbers would be entered? Is that absolutely IMPOSSIBLE?! Not impossible, just like it's not absolutely IMPOSSIBLE for a man to fall out of a plane and have his parachute malfunction and still live (it's happened!). But, it's highly improbable. Think about it: why would anyone enter a bunch of random placeholder numbers and balanced percentages rather than just leaving them all blank? 1) It's additional and entirely superfluous work that serves no useful function. 2) If there are already random numbers in place it would be much easier to lose one's place when entering the "real" data at a later time. Why? Beacuse the template contains numbers and percentage fields associated with those numbers. Values need to be entered to ensure the formulas are all working. As an I.T. Consultant by trade, I believe the explaination just given by the station. The've just echoed my point here. You are all freaking out over a routine test template. hmmmm, I'd believe this as a possibility if the players were listed NOT SO REALISTIC to whom WINS and LOSES maybe!!!! That's why I won't buy it. |
| ggb User ID: 12623407 United Kingdom03/20/2012 02:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | copied page to pastehtml [link to pastehtml.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8260452 United States03/20/2012 02:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I emailed them and got this response: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1640514 ________________________________________ Not the future…just test data… The numbers you saw were routine test data from the Associated Press. That feed last week was for members to test election data display. They are always zeroed out several hours prior to the closing of the polls on election day. The links to the LIVE election data are then published across every page of the web site. With feeds of results going to so many different locations on election night it’s important to be sure all systems are updating properly. We certainly apologize for any misunderstanding, but please rest assured we will not have any election results until the polls actually close in Illinois on Tuesday March 20, 2012. Sincerely, Kevin Carpenter Manager of Online Operations WLS-TV _____________________________________ So, what do you guys think? Is it plausible or is he lying? As an I.T. Consultant by trade, this explaination makes perfect logical sense and I accept it as it confirms my suspicions from the start. Some of you will call me a shill for this. But I'm not. I see conspiracy where conspiracy is reasonable. I dont suspect it here. You dont have to believe me either. Cheers. Except, that I had checked the page source before it went down and the numbers were typed directly into the HTML by hand with no indication it was coming from an automated system tied to the AP. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1640514 United States03/20/2012 02:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I emailed them and got this response: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1640514 ________________________________________ Not the future…just test data… The numbers you saw were routine test data from the Associated Press. That feed last week was for members to test election data display. They are always zeroed out several hours prior to the closing of the polls on election day. The links to the LIVE election data are then published across every page of the web site. With feeds of results going to so many different locations on election night it’s important to be sure all systems are updating properly. We certainly apologize for any misunderstanding, but please rest assured we will not have any election results until the polls actually close in Illinois on Tuesday March 20, 2012. Sincerely, Kevin Carpenter Manager of Online Operations WLS-TV _____________________________________ So, what do you guys think? Is it plausible or is he lying? I do not see the question that you asked. Post your question. The associated press is giving them exact #s for all of the election candidates to test? WTF are you kidding me? We arent talking about any feed from last week either! I emailed them and got this response: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1640514 ________________________________________ Not the future…just test data… The numbers you saw were routine test data from the Associated Press. That feed last week was for members to test election data display. They are always zeroed out several hours prior to the closing of the polls on election day. The links to the LIVE election data are then published across every page of the web site. With feeds of results going to so many different locations on election night it’s important to be sure all systems are updating properly. We certainly apologize for any misunderstanding, but please rest assured we will not have any election results until the polls actually close in Illinois on Tuesday March 20, 2012. Sincerely, Kevin Carpenter Manager of Online Operations WLS-TV _____________________________________ So, what do you guys think? Is it plausible or is he lying? I do not see the question that you asked. Post your question. The associated press is giving them exact #s for all of the election candidates to test? WTF are you kidding me? We arent talking about any feed from last week either! I said this (I was being sarcastic): "Someone told me to come here to see the future and there is nothing here. Damnit, I always miss the boat" I was replying to the "reached this page in error" email thing that was up after they took the results down. Anyway, if Paul comes in with 3%, I'd certainly call bs. 3 out of 100 doesn't represent his numbers for sure. |
| Free Planet User ID: 12328428 United Kingdom03/20/2012 02:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for those who don't know, it's still GOOGLE CACHED, seems really 'detailed' for standy-by test data: [link to webcache.googleusercontent.com] President Gingrich 876,937 42% X 100% Romney 819,993 39% Santorum 90,074 4% Roemer 89,868 4% Perry 88,005 4% Paul 85,106 4% Uncommitted 5,173 0% :) 0% UNCOMMITTED!!! |
| SpaceCommand User ID: 1009022 United States03/20/2012 02:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 16 years if torturing puss bags is too much to contemplate. At least GWB told us what he was going to do, he's definitely an "honest," crook. (You know the kind that tells you gimme the money or else) Obama is the kind of crook they call a con man, he says he will do one thing, cons you with NLP to vote for him, then pulls the rug out from everyone. He did not win the primaries any more than Romney "did," this year. Of course the motley crew of pirates that have taken over the once proud and free America, have been doing this for a while, but now they don't even try to lie convincingly. Last Edited by SpaceCommand on 03/20/2012 02:58 AM "With an eye made quiet by the power of harmony and the deep power of joy, we see into the life of things." William Wordsworth And yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe—the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God. John F. Kennedy Inaugural Address Lincoln's economic advisor Henry C. Carey explained the universal issue in his 1851 Harmony of Interests: "Two systems are before the world.... One looks to pauperism, ignorance, depopulation, and barbarism; the other to increasing wealth, comfort, intelligence, combination of action, and civilization. One looks towards universal war; the other towards universal peace. One is the English system; the other ... the American system, for ... elevating while equalizing the condition of man throughout the world." "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein |
| Ponytailjones User ID: 12168657 Canada03/20/2012 02:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Legit question: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550737 Is it POSSIBLE that that page is a pre-created template and the values in there are just place holder numbers for the template until the real numbers are in at which point the real numbers would be entered? Is that absolutely IMPOSSIBLE?! Not impossible, just like it's not absolutely IMPOSSIBLE for a man to fall out of a plane and have his parachute malfunction and still live (it's happened!). But, it's highly improbable. Think about it: why would anyone enter a bunch of random placeholder numbers and balanced percentages rather than just leaving them all blank? 1) It's additional and entirely superfluous work that serves no useful function. 2) If there are already random numbers in place it would be much easier to lose one's place when entering the "real" data at a later time. Why? Beacuse the template contains numbers and percentage fields associated with those numbers. Values need to be entered to ensure the formulas are all working. As an I.T. Consultant by trade, I believe the explaination just given by the station. The've just echoed my point here. You are all freaking out over a routine test template. hmmmm, I'd believe this as a possibility if the players were listed NOT SO REALISTIC to whom WINS and LOSES maybe!!!! That's why I won't buy it. Does it really seem plausible to you that the perpetrators of this sham election were actually going to insist that 160,000 people voted for candidates that were no longer running? If they were actually going to try to sell that as real data, they would have made it more realistic, not an almost 3 way tie followed by 160,000 voting for Rick Perry and Buddy Roemer. |
| Alien Technologist User ID: 2364002 United States03/20/2012 02:57 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I emailed them and got this response: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1640514 ________________________________________ Not the future…just test data… The numbers you saw were routine test data from the Associated Press. That feed last week was for members to test election data display. They are always zeroed out several hours prior to the closing of the polls on election day. The links to the LIVE election data are then published across every page of the web site. With feeds of results going to so many different locations on election night it’s important to be sure all systems are updating properly. We certainly apologize for any misunderstanding, but please rest assured we will not have any election results until the polls actually close in Illinois on Tuesday March 20, 2012. Sincerely, Kevin Carpenter Manager of Online Operations WLS-TV _____________________________________ So, what do you guys think? Is it plausible or is he lying? Then why take it down and hide it instead of zeroing it back out? No one has ever seen a perfect circle, nor a perfectly straight line, yet everyone knows what a circle and a straight line are. Perceived circles or lines are not exactly circular or straight, and true circles and lines could never be detected since by definition they are sets of infinitely small points. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11714381 United States03/20/2012 02:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Think about it: why would anyone enter a bunch of random placeholder numbers and balanced percentages rather than just leaving them all blank? Quoting: The Brandon Because you want to make sure it all works, and is error free? You can't test how your website interacts with the database or whatever if you have all zeros for everything. Long before this 'excuse' was offered people were pointing out that it couldn't possibly be tomorrows data because it had lots of people voting for Buddy Roemer and Rick Perry. Actually very few voted for Roemer or Perry in that. A certain percentage would vote for Micky Mouse if the name was on the ballot, this has been proven to be fact. |
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