SERIOUS ANSWERS PLEASE: Should I become a Freemason? | |
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Tic-Toc- User ID: 3082524 United States 03/20/2012 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was thinking of doing the same thing, but for the fellowship and benifits of "forced friendship." Sadly everybody around me is a complete capitalist. In that I can not get a good price on a home, because the person wanting to sell the home is trying to get as much money as possible. So if I was to join the Freemasons (or another taciturnity) then a brother could hook me up, just because I was a brother. In turn I can, and would probably be expected to, assist him with any networking, telephone, or computer problems (as that is amongst my skill set). I will be closely monitoring this thread for others opinions.... as I am in the same boat as the OP He who commands the past, controlls the future. He who controlls the future, commands the Past. |
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I know.. User ID: 4240773 United States 03/20/2012 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you are truly ready, you will know in your heart. You cant join on someone elses advice. It must be your own free will. If you are looking for Truth, and the greatest Brotherhood to be found on Earth, and how to become a better steward to your fellow man and the world, you should join. |
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grime User ID: 3699752 United States 03/20/2012 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | something tells me that when the freemasons were formed, the intent was to have freethinking individuals working towards a common goal. What's happening now is everyone and their mom can be a freemason. The actual freethinkers have moved up in society and now use the society to gather the sheep and have them think they're worth something. The only people worth a damn, are the ones that can do their own thinking. Personally I have a long way to go in that regard, so no ad hominem attacks please. When you need to be a part of something just to succeed, personally I think it means you have to re-evaluate your priorities. |
lordliarorlunatic User ID: 12837207 South Africa 03/20/2012 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In South Africa there are a shit load of masonic lodges and temples in every city and most towns. Its a brotherhood first and foremost and they mainly try help communities such as the MOTHS club and LIONS club... Do it, you can only get contacts and some free shit, if its not your cup of tea say fuck it and bail. |
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Question EVERYTHING Traveler In The Matrix User ID: 1460582 United States 03/20/2012 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since no one in family has ever been a freemason, I have to fill an application form given to me by the local Grand Lodge on "why I want to become a Freemason". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12833320 I'm a bit confused on what to write because I am well aware of the various conspiracy theories regarding freemasonry and how they rule the world etc.. So should I become a Freemason just to see for myself whether all the conspiracy theories are just lies? They won't subject me to some kinda mind control programming, will they? Serious answers please! Without a question...NO. Albert Pike was born on December 29, 1809, in Boston, and was the oldest of six children born to Benjamin and Sarah Andrews Pike. He studied at Harvard, and later served as a Brigadier-General in the Confederate Army. After the Civil War, Pike was found guilty of treason and jailed, only to be pardoned by fellow Freemason President Andrew Johnson on April 22, 1866, who met with him the next day at the White House. On June 20, 1867, Scottish Rite officials conferred upon Johnson the 4th to 32nd Freemasonry degrees, and he later went to Boston to dedicate a Masonic Temple. Pike was said to be a genius, able to read and write in 16 different languages, although I cannot find a record anywhere of what those languages were. In addition, he is widely accused of plagiarism, so take with a pinch of salt. At various stages of his life we was a poet, philosopher, frontiersman, soldier, humanitarian and philanthropist. A 33rd degree Mason, he was one of the founding fathers, and head of the Ancient Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, being the Grand Commander of North American Freemasonry from 1859 and retained that position until his death in 1891. In 1869, he was a top leader in the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. Pike's Letter to Mazzini It is a commonly believed fallacy that for a short time, the Pike letter to Mazzini was on display in the British Museum Library in London, and it was copied by William Guy Carr, former Intelligence Officer in the Royal Canadian Navy. The British Library has confirmed in writing to me that such a document has never been in their possession. Furthermore, in Carr's book, Satan, Prince of this World, Carr includes the following footnote: "The Keeper of Manuscripts recently informed the author that this letter is NOT catalogued in the British Museum Library. It seems strange that a man of Cardinal Rodriguez's knowledge should have said that it WAS in 1925". It appears that Carr learned about this letter from Cardinal Caro y Rodriguez of Santiago, Chile, who wrote The Mystery of Freemasonry Unveiled. To date, no conclusive proof exists to show that this letter was ever written. Nevertheless, the letter is widely quoted and the topic of much discussion. Following are apparently extracts of the letter, showing how Three World Wars have been planned for many generations. "The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions." 2 Students of history will recognize that the political alliances of England on one side and Germany on the other, forged between 1871 and 1898 by Otto von Bismarck, co-conspirator of Albert Pike, were instrumental in bringing about the First World War. "The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm." 3 After this Second World War, Communism was made strong enough to begin taking over weaker governments. In 1945, at the Potsdam Conference between Truman, Churchill, and Stalin, a large portion of Europe was simply handed over to Russia, and on the other side of the world, the aftermath of the war with Japan helped to sweep the tide of Communism into China. (Readers who argue that the terms Nazism and Zionism were not known in 1871 should remember that the Illuminati invented both these movements. In addition, Communism as an ideology, and as a coined phrase, originates in France during the Revolution. In 1785, Restif coined the phrase four years before revolution broke out. Restif and Babeuf, in turn, were influenced by Rousseau - as was the most famous conspirator of them all, Adam Weishaupt.) "The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." 4 First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. ~ Mahatma Gandhi "Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—forever." ~ George Orwell "The exact level of tyranny that you're going to live under, is the level of tyranny you put up with." ~Thomas Jefferson "All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. ~ Thomas Jefferson |
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