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The Staff Sargeant, Robert Bales, who allegedly killed and set afire 16 people, says that he cannot remember the attack at all. He also told his attorney that he took "a couple" of sips of a drink, but WAS NOT DRUNK or DRINKING.

It makes you wonder if he was set up, and who set him up and why?

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His different personalities are unaware of eachother.
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For now, that's what I am thinking,too.

However, I wouldn't rule anything out, including him being set up by the enemy.

I still cannot believe one man, could kill all those people, and no one heard a thing, or tried to stop him. Then, he is accused of setting them on fire, too. Hard story for me to buy, really hard.
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It's so obvious now that he didn't do it! In fact, investigations in Afghanistan concluded that one man could not have done it.

The most likely verdict will be that they killed themselves but the last one to die then toasted and roasted the others before jumping into the flames herself or himself if it was a man.
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I CALLED IT! I said several times on the threads that reported this story, that I bet he was slipped something and he will not remember a thing about it.

Now there's reports of eye witnesses that it was several troops, not just that one and it was a raid, also a female Afghan MP said family members of some of the victims said that the women were sexually harrassed and raped and their bodies burnt to cover up evidence.
Another guy said "soldiers" came in and dragged his uncle outside from his bedroom, asked where is the Taliban and then shot him.

Now remember again, 9 children killed, all under 6, one was just a 2 months old baby - 3 women and the rest men, they say 18 murdered in total.

This was a raid to intimidate and instill fear in the villagers and the one's not cooperating were drugged, and poor Bale is now taking the shit for all of them. This is pissing me off. My heart goes out to this soldier and his family, that's so unfair imo.
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The Staff Sargeant, Robert Bales, who allegedly killed and set afire 16 people, says that he cannot remember the attack at all. He also told his attorney that he took "a couple" of sips of a drink, but WAS NOT DRUNK or DRINKING.

It makes you wonder if he was set up, and who set him up and why?

[link to www.france24.com]
 Quoting: CuriosityCat1


The boy in the hospital and the villagers all say it was several US troops. So of course the one's not cooperating were drugged, told to go and rape, kill little kids and babies and burn the evidence as revenge for bombings. And who would come up with such an evil plan? Maybe the guy that came to visit and had to ask his Marines to disarm?

Somebody knows exactly who is responsible and should speak out, even if their live would be threatened. This is just 1 incident out of so many across the world of this evil crime gang (not talking about troops there, they are victims and casualties of these wars too).

Watch "To Hell and Back again" - great Documentary about US Soldiers in Afghanistan, really touched me.

Bale is not the one that needs to be charged and sentenced - arrest "THEM", you know who I mean.

Thanks for posting this OP.
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I CALLED IT! I said several times on the threads that reported this story, that I bet he was slipped something and he will not remember a thing about it.

Now there's reports of eye witnesses that it was several troops, not just that one and it was a raid, also a female Afghan MP said family members of some of the victims said that the women were sexually harrassed and raped and their bodies burnt to cover up evidence.
Another guy said "soldiers" came in and dragged his uncle outside from his bedroom, asked where is the Taliban and then shot him.

Now remember again, 9 children killed, all under 6, one was just a 2 months old baby - 3 women and the rest men, they say 18 murdered in total.

This was a raid to intimidate and instill fear in the villagers and the one's not cooperating were drugged, and poor Bale is now taking the shit for all of them. This is pissing me off. My heart goes out to this soldier and his family, that's so unfair imo.
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ITA with you! The attorney also said that the three hours he spent with Bales was emotional. The attorney said that things are going on in Afghanistan that we do not have a clue about.

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Watch this video from Afghanistan about what I said was reported, eye witnesses etc. Image of 1 of the dead children, just warning if somebody does not want to see that.
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Watch this video from Afghanistan about what I said was reported, eye witnesses etc. Image of 1 of the dead children, just warning if somebody does not want to see that.
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Thank you, I had not seen that.

Should be interesting to see how this turns out. Bales may be "taken out" of the picture completely, if you get my drift.
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I CALLED IT! I said several times on the threads that reported this story, that I bet he was slipped something and he will not remember a thing about it.

Now there's reports of eye witnesses that it was several troops, not just that one and it was a raid, also a female Afghan MP said family members of some of the victims said that the women were sexually harrassed and raped and their bodies burnt to cover up evidence.
Another guy said "soldiers" came in and dragged his uncle outside from his bedroom, asked where is the Taliban and then shot him.

Now remember again, 9 children killed, all under 6, one was just a 2 months old baby - 3 women and the rest men, they say 18 murdered in total.

This was a raid to intimidate and instill fear in the villagers and the one's not cooperating were drugged, and poor Bale is now taking the shit for all of them. This is pissing me off. My heart goes out to this soldier and his family, that's so unfair imo.
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ITA with you! The attorney also said that the three hours he spent with Bales was emotional. The attorney said that things are going on in Afghanistan that we do not have a clue about.

[link to www.theaustralian.com.au]
 Quoting: CuriosityCat1


I can only imagine - my heart bleeds for him and his family, this is SO unfair. I wish the attempt on dingbats live didn't fail! Criminal Gang and now they do this to a soldier who fought for his country and was even injured. Just goes to show you.
There's a great documentary called "Casualties of War" also on PressTV, what some of these soldiers went through and how they can not deal with live after they return, is really heart breaking. Something has to seriously change!
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[link to www.youtube.com]

Watch this video from Afghanistan about what I said was reported, eye witnesses etc. Image of 1 of the dead children, just warning if somebody does not want to see that.
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Thank you, I had not seen that.

Should be interesting to see how this turns out. Bales may be "taken out" of the picture completely, if you get my drift.
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True Americans should stand up for him, I'm sure he would the majority of vets on his side, the one's that went and returned. Some must know and had similar experiences are too traumatized to speak up.
That would explain the high suicide rate on soldiers who returned from Iraq and Afghanistan, some probably just couldn't live with themselves anymore and knew if they spoke out, nobody would believe them or they'd be disappeared. SAD!
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It just seems so bizarre to pick out this one soldier and make him the fall guy.

He must of really ticked off someone, someone higher up.
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It just seems so bizarre to pick out this one soldier and make him the fall guy.

He must of really ticked off someone, someone higher up.
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bump
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12843114


For now, that's what I am thinking,too.

However, I wouldn't rule anything out, including him being set up by the enemy.

I still cannot believe one man, could kill all those people, and no one heard a thing, or tried to stop him. Then, he is accused of setting them on fire, too. Hard story for me to buy, really hard.
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That would depend on who the enemy really is.
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This must be the twilight zone.

The guy donned night gear vision in pitch black night, went on a murder spree then tried to hide his weapon with a shawl.

Then the guy said he went killing military age dudes aka insurgents and when confronted about the rampage he says he aint saying a word and he needs to speak to a lawyer.


Now his lawyer says he cant remember anything. Oh sure he remembered the part where he came back to the base after the killings right?



And you guys suppoting this criminal are a joke. He murdered 9 children in cold blood and all you guys are talking about how he served his country. IS this how you serve your country? by murdering innocent children? I can only surmise that you folks dont have any kids because you will not be talking in such a way if you had any
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Im sorry but he should suffer just like the ones he murdered did. There were innocent women and children...
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This must be the twilight zone.

The guy donned night gear vision in pitch black night, went on a murder spree then tried to hide his weapon with a shawl.

Then the guy said he went killing military age dudes aka insurgents and when confronted about the rampage he says he aint saying a word and he needs to speak to a lawyer.


Now his lawyer says he cant remember anything. Oh sure he remembered the part where he came back to the base after the killings right?



And you guys suppoting this criminal are a joke. He murdered 9 children in cold blood and all you guys are talking about how he served his country. IS this how you serve your country? by murdering innocent children? I can only surmise that you folks dont have any kids because you will not be talking in such a way if you had any
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Things have gotten mighty strange here in the New Improved Amerika, that's for sure.
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This must be the twilight zone.

The guy donned night gear vision in pitch black night, went on a murder spree then tried to hide his weapon with a shawl.

Then the guy said he went killing military age dudes aka insurgents and when confronted about the rampage he says he aint saying a word and he needs to speak to a lawyer.


Now his lawyer says he cant remember anything. Oh sure he remembered the part where he came back to the base after the killings right?



And you guys suppoting this criminal are a joke. He murdered 9 children in cold blood and all you guys are talking about how he served his country. IS this how you serve your country? by murdering innocent children? I can only surmise that you folks dont have any kids because you will not be talking in such a way if you had any
 Quoting: rand al thor 12868428


If you believe the MSM story then we could maybe agree with you. But there were more than him and plenty eyewitnesses. Watch the video I posted. We may never know the real truth...Afghanistan is a hellhole and went totally out of control. Ask the US soldiers what they really think...but they get cut off by MSM when they do like recently on CNN.
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U.S. soldier accused of gunning down 16 Afghans is a con man who feds say bilked elderly couple out of a million
Federal financial regulators say Sgt. Robert Bales 'engaged in fraud' before joining the Army




The U.S. soldier who now claims to have no memory of slaughtering 16 Afghan civilians is a “smooth talker” who defrauded an elderly Ohio couple out of their savings, records revealed Tuesday.

Staff Sgt. Robert Bales enlisted in the Army shortly after federal financial regulators found he “engaged in fraud, breach of fiduciary duty, churning, unauthorized trading and unsuitable investments,” according to a report on Bales filed in 2003.

Bales, who was then a stockbroker in Columbus, Ohio, and his partners, were ordered to pay Gary Liebschner and his wife $1,274,000 in compensatory and punitive damages.

So far, he hasn’t paid a dime, according to Liebschner.

“He robbed me of my life savings,” Liebschner told ABC News. “We didn't know where he was. We heard the Bahamas, and all kinds of places.”



How do you like him now!!!!

This guys dirty and now a murderer.



[link to www.nydailynews.com]
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It just seems so bizarre to pick out this one soldier and make him the fall guy.

He must of really ticked off someone, someone higher up.
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I know a psychopath that as an MP set up a drunk soldier in Korea like that. He convinced the drunk that he was shooting at boat and sinking them in a sewage filled river when it was actually his buddy that did it.
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MK-ULTRA psy-op, FTW!

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U.S. soldier accused of gunning down 16 Afghans is a con man who feds say bilked elderly couple out of a million
Federal financial regulators say Sgt. Robert Bales 'engaged in fraud' before joining the Army




The U.S. soldier who now claims to have no memory of slaughtering 16 Afghan civilians is a “smooth talker” who defrauded an elderly Ohio couple out of their savings, records revealed Tuesday.

Staff Sgt. Robert Bales enlisted in the Army shortly after federal financial regulators found he “engaged in fraud, breach of fiduciary duty, churning, unauthorized trading and unsuitable investments,” according to a report on Bales filed in 2003.

Bales, who was then a stockbroker in Columbus, Ohio, and his partners, were ordered to pay Gary Liebschner and his wife $1,274,000 in compensatory and punitive damages.

So far, he hasn’t paid a dime, according to Liebschner.

“He robbed me of my life savings,” Liebschner told ABC News. “We didn't know where he was. We heard the Bahamas, and all kinds of places.”



How do you like him now!!!!

This guys dirty and now a murderer.



[link to www.nydailynews.com]
 Quoting: Not So Squeaky Clean 7729515


churchlady Now it's quite evident, makes all sense to me. Like OP said, he pissed someone off. Now Panetta's party boys are out tonight smear campaigning, even here on GLP.
Disgusting. I'll sit back and watch the show but refuse to believe the bullshit.
Oh and DSK raped and confined a hotel maid....how'd that go again?
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U.S. soldier accused of gunning down 16 Afghans is a con man who feds say bilked elderly couple out of a million
Federal financial regulators say Sgt. Robert Bales 'engaged in fraud' before joining the Army




The U.S. soldier who now claims to have no memory of slaughtering 16 Afghan civilians is a “smooth talker” who defrauded an elderly Ohio couple out of their savings, records revealed Tuesday.

Staff Sgt. Robert Bales enlisted in the Army shortly after federal financial regulators found he “engaged in fraud, breach of fiduciary duty, churning, unauthorized trading and unsuitable investments,” according to a report on Bales filed in 2003.

Bales, who was then a stockbroker in Columbus, Ohio, and his partners, were ordered to pay Gary Liebschner and his wife $1,274,000 in compensatory and punitive damages.

So far, he hasn’t paid a dime, according to Liebschner.

“He robbed me of my life savings,” Liebschner told ABC News. “We didn't know where he was. We heard the Bahamas, and all kinds of places.”



How do you like him now!!!!

This guys dirty and now a murderer.



[link to www.nydailynews.com]
 Quoting: Not So Squeaky Clean 7729515

hmmm.

we have a local crime family who are big drinkers and infamous for brutal, cowardly assualts in the area.

they are also known paid police informants.

their surname is the same as this soldiers.
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So he admits he was drinking...but then says he wasn't drunk and wasn't drinking. Hm. Maybe somebody put something into the drink he took those few sips from, or like most people, a few sips turns into a few beers into a few shots.
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It's all a setup and false flag so that TPTB can unionize our armed service members. It's been in the works for some time now. The big O's union thugs beleive these poor soldiers need union reps to make sure their rights are protected. In order to get this done there needs to be tragic issues such as this. Look for more of the same in the near future.
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MSM? fall guy? plot thickens.

Are you guys saying this whole massacre was some sort of elaborate plot? To murder 16 people under the cover of darkness and thereby not only shedding innocent blood but also tarnish the united states armed forces name, put soldier lives at risk, and make the afghan population distrust the army.

All for what? what plot could be worth this much?
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So he admits he was drinking...but then says he wasn't drunk and wasn't drinking. Hm. Maybe somebody put something into the drink he took those few sips from, or like most people, a few sips turns into a few beers into a few shots.
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or maybe he just got drunk and decided to go and kill people.
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MSM? fall guy? plot thickens.

Are you guys saying this whole massacre was some sort of elaborate plot? To murder 16 people under the cover of darkness and thereby not only shedding innocent blood but also tarnish the united states armed forces name, put soldier lives at risk, and make the afghan population distrust the army.

All for what? what plot could be worth this much?
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any plot that somehow reduces this individuals responsibility .

notice the common theme?

this kind of incident has occurred wherever US troops have been.

an american soldier went raping and murdering here in ww2, which resulted in many of his company be ing killed in mildura when the US wouldn't hand him over for local trial.

you cant really tarnish further the reputation of an army that is infamous for this kind of activity.

what can be done is to bring up as many excuses as possible to reduce the dent on the american psyche by creating doubt of responsibility.
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U.S. soldier accused of gunning down 16 Afghans is a con man who feds say bilked elderly couple out of a million
Federal financial regulators say Sgt. Robert Bales 'engaged in fraud' before joining the Army




The U.S. soldier who now claims to have no memory of slaughtering 16 Afghan civilians is a “smooth talker” who defrauded an elderly Ohio couple out of their savings, records revealed Tuesday.

Staff Sgt. Robert Bales enlisted in the Army shortly after federal financial regulators found he “engaged in fraud, breach of fiduciary duty, churning, unauthorized trading and unsuitable investments,” according to a report on Bales filed in 2003.

Bales, who was then a stockbroker in Columbus, Ohio, and his partners, were ordered to pay Gary Liebschner and his wife $1,274,000 in compensatory and punitive damages.

So far, he hasn’t paid a dime, according to Liebschner.

“He robbed me of my life savings,” Liebschner told ABC News. “We didn't know where he was. We heard the Bahamas, and all kinds of places.”



How do you like him now!!!!

This guys dirty and now a murderer.



[link to www.nydailynews.com]
 Quoting: Not So Squeaky Clean 7729515


It's supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.

Let the smear campaign begin...
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Watch this video from Afghanistan about what I said was reported, eye witnesses etc. Image of 1 of the dead children, just warning if somebody does not want to see that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1238259

Thank you, I had not seen that.

Should be interesting to see how this turns out. Bales may be "taken out" of the picture completely, if you get my drift.
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True Americans should stand up for him, I'm sure he would the majority of vets on his side, the one's that went and returned. Some must know and had similar experiences are too traumatized to speak up.
That would explain the high suicide rate on soldiers who returned from Iraq and Afghanistan, some probably just couldn't live with themselves anymore and knew if they spoke out, nobody would believe them or they'd be disappeared. SAD!
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Have you seen how we treat our soldiers including returning Vets? Disposable!redfaceNot much of a chance this poor guy will be treated any different.





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