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Anonymous Coward
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03/22/2012 04:31 PM
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OP,

God refers to Himself as "I Am". That pretty much sums up your question. Obviously, we live in a finite world and lack any ability to understand concepts such as Eternity. So it becomes a question of Faith.

On the flip side, believing it rained on rocks for millions of years and produced a single cell which somehow evolved into every living thing takes faith as well. Because you always end up asking where did that come from and where did that come from again.

So, you either believe in the Great "I Am" or you believe in From the Goo to the Zoo to You. Take your pick. Both take Faith.
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2 + 2 always equaled 4. Still does last time I checked.

Truth doesn't evolve. It's always there.

God is TRUTH. Do you love the Truth?
 Quoting: Petrus


yes, 2+2 = 4

however, 2 and 2 = 5
 Quoting: Ghréasaí 2


Ask any good accountant what 2+2 = , he will say " what do you want it to equal "
 Quoting: Foresight


the mathematics of money is the only mathematics....


'course the accounting equation:

assets = liabilities + equity

1 = 1 + 1

1 = 2
 Quoting: Ghréasaí 2


Yeah , but , liabilities are a negative so your formula should be 1 = -1 + 1 so 1 = 0 . OOPS
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03/22/2012 04:35 PM
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god is truth. it will never change. truth was never created and can never be destroyed, it is because it is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12998212


A man standing on the North Pole decided the Earth is rotating counter-clockwise

A man standing on the South Pole decided the Earth is rotating clockwise

They met on the Equator and began to argue about which direction the Earth is rotating

Which one is speaking truth ??
 Quoting: Ghréasaí 2


It depends on your fixed reference......that is why God created the Universe without a fixed point.......unless you know where it is? It has no center.....it is constantly moving.....as are the boundaries.
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2 + 2 always equaled 4. Still does last time I checked.

Truth doesn't evolve. It's always there.

God is TRUTH. Do you love the Truth?
 Quoting: Petrus


yes, 2+2 = 4

however, 2 and 2 = 5
 Quoting: Ghréasaí 2


Ask any good accountant what 2+2 = , he will say " what do you want it to equal "
 Quoting: Foresight


2 and 2 is 22

22 days is 5 weeks; just ask any obstetrician
 Quoting: Ghréasaí 2


What do feet have to do with it ?
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So, you either believe in the Great "I Am" or you believe in From the Goo to the Zoo to You. Take your pick. Both take Faith.
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sorry, but there are more choices than that

"I Am" doesn't in no way shape or form mean: 'only one'


later in the Bibles the Son God Jesus said he was one and Father God was one
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yes, 2+2 = 4

however, 2 and 2 = 5
 Quoting: Ghréasaí 2


Ask any good accountant what 2+2 = , he will say " what do you want it to equal "
 Quoting: Foresight


2 and 2 is 22

22 days is 5 weeks; just ask any obstetrician
 Quoting: Ghréasaí 2


What do feet have to do with it ?
 Quoting: Foresight


feet ??

obstetrician = female reproductive system doctor

and to them 22 days after conception is the 5th week of a pregnacy
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god is truth. it will never change. truth was never created and can never be destroyed, it is because it is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12998212


A man standing on the North Pole decided the Earth is rotating counter-clockwise

A man standing on the South Pole decided the Earth is rotating clockwise

They met on the Equator and began to argue about which direction the Earth is rotating

Which one is speaking truth ??
 Quoting: Ghréasaí 2


It depends on your fixed reference......that is why God created the Universe without a fixed point.......unless you know where it is? It has no center.....it is constantly moving.....as are the boundaries.
 Quoting: CosmicObserver 1371470


the point is human truth, which always is 2 = 1

the answer to the question is both men were speaking truth
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So, you either believe in the Great "I Am" or you believe in From the Goo to the Zoo to You. Take your pick. Both take Faith.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1061562


sorry, but there are more choices than that

"I Am" doesn't in no way shape or form mean: 'only one'


later in the Bibles the Son God Jesus said he was one and Father God was one
 Quoting: Ghréasaí 2


The only way to the Father is via the Son. There are no other choices. If so, what?
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So, you either believe in the Great "I Am" or you believe in From the Goo to the Zoo to You. Take your pick. Both take Faith.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1061562


sorry, but there are more choices than that

"I Am" doesn't in no way shape or form mean: 'only one'


later in the Bibles the Son God Jesus said he was one and Father God was one
 Quoting: Ghréasaí 2


The only way to the Father is via the Son. There are no other choices. If so, what?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1061562


point is:

Son comes first, and Father comes second

that is what Jesus taught, simple as that


'course we know that Father was first and Son was second, if we only look at truth with a backward perspective
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there is a very good reason why your mind is trapped inside this world unable to escape,you will only know the answer when your door is opened.

you think,therefore you are,but you dont know what dimension you are actually in,or any scale of it, you think you know,but you dont.

maybe one day,life will be looked upon as something different to what it is now. we may wake up.
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How can a fairy in the sky , aka GOD , produce substance/solid matter , from nothing ? Before God there had to be something !? YES OR NO !! Or did God evolve from a single cell and create space/universe ? No STUPID bible quotes please ; only reinforces your ignorance .
 Quoting: Foresight


in a foul frame of mind are we...
we should be for all the cover up the vatican has been...
writing subversive translation to do them cause...
God is a being of unknown origin... this reference to God as an entity will be returning to us soon
religion has twisted words of meaning to something opposite
I believe the riches that are in their possession is in fact what they deemed to be the offering upon God's return

when & if you have the chance to meet this entity... by all means ask
I'm going to ask if I have the chance

peace
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you think,therefore you are

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13005445


i think, therefore we are


you think, therefore we are


a person cannot think without aquiring human lanaguge and syntax skills first


the statement: "i think therefore i am" is quite incomplete to say the least
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03/22/2012 05:54 PM
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God is a being of unknown origin...

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Father God yes

however, Son God originated from Father God
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03/22/2012 06:00 PM
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you think,therefore you are

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13005445


i think, therefore we are


you think, therefore we are


a person cannot think without aquiring human lanaguge and syntax skills first

the statement: "i think therefore i am" is quite incomplete to say the least
 Quoting: Ghréasaí 2


What is the basis of this statment? Where did you get such info? Do you really believe we wouldnt be able to think without language? My dog thinks your stupid and he doesnt have any language or syntax skills.
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03/22/2012 06:01 PM

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How can a fairy in the sky , aka GOD , produce substance/solid matter , from nothing ? Before God there had to be something !? YES OR NO !! Or did God evolve from a single cell and create space/universe ? No STUPID bible quotes please ; only reinforces your ignorance .
 Quoting: Foresight


you view it from the perspective of the here and now..where time exists and all has a beginning and an end

this is just here in this dimension/reality

the key is to understand the concept of no beginning and no end..a continuos present now..

no before..no after

hope that helps hf
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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03/22/2012 06:19 PM
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you think,therefore you are

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13005445


i think, therefore we are


you think, therefore we are


a person cannot think without aquiring human lanaguge and syntax skills first


the statement: "i think therefore i am" is quite incomplete to say the least
 Quoting: Ghréasaí 2


We are capable of designing complicated engineering components without the use of thought or knowledge of mathematics and within a very short space of time.
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03/22/2012 06:29 PM
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you view it from the perspective of the here and now..where time exists and all has a beginning and an end

 Quoting: wildhoney


that is the perspective of cooking food
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you think,therefore you are

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13005445


i think, therefore we are


you think, therefore we are


a person cannot think without aquiring human lanaguge and syntax skills first


the statement: "i think therefore i am" is quite incomplete to say the least
 Quoting: Ghréasaí 2


We are capable of designing complicated engineering components without the use of thought or knowledge of mathematics and within a very short space of time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1410221


yes, but not without another human or humans triggering one's conciousness first
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you think,therefore you are

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13005445


i think, therefore we are


you think, therefore we are


a person cannot think without aquiring human lanaguge and syntax skills first

the statement: "i think therefore i am" is quite incomplete to say the least
 Quoting: Ghréasaí 2


What is the basis of this statment? Where did you get such info? Do you really believe we wouldnt be able to think without language? My dog thinks your stupid and he doesnt have any language or syntax skills.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554016


syntax, language syntax

without it, humans cannot develop logical thought processes


some ancients cultures refered to it as the: 'breath of life'
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you view it from the perspective of the here and now..where time exists and all has a beginning and an end

 Quoting: wildhoney


that is the perspective of cooking food
 Quoting: Ghréasaí 2


huh?
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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you view it from the perspective of the here and now..where time exists and all has a beginning and an end

 Quoting: wildhoney


that is the perspective of cooking food
 Quoting: Ghréasaí 2


huh?
 Quoting: wildhoney


the "better take it out of the oven before it gets burnt" perspective


here, this life, in this reality, time is: first and second, before and after....


'before and after' is a much better perspective than 'beginning and end', wouldn't you agree ??


unless one is cooking of course....
wildhoney

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you view it from the perspective of the here and now..where time exists and all has a beginning and an end

 Quoting: wildhoney


that is the perspective of cooking food
 Quoting: Ghréasaí 2


huh?
 Quoting: wildhoney


the "better take it out of the oven before it gets burnt" perspective


here, this life, in this reality, time is: first and second, before and after....


'before and after' is a much better perspective than 'beginning and end', wouldn't you agree ??


unless one is cooking of course....
 Quoting: Ghréasaí 2


em..guess so
damned
:)
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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How can a fairy in the sky , aka GOD , produce substance/solid matter , from nothing ? Before God there had to be something !? YES OR NO !! Or did God evolve from a single cell and create space/universe ? No STUPID bible quotes please ; only reinforces your ignorance .
 Quoting: Foresight


you view it from the perspective of the here and now..where time exists and all has a beginning and an end

this is just here in this dimension/reality

the key is to understand the concept of no beginning and no end..a continuos present now..

no before..no after

hope that helps hf
 Quoting: wildhoney


the structure of our universe forces eternal to function eternally

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