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Scientific Proof of Telepathy & The Geomagnetic Field: Dr. Michael Persinger (No More Secrets!)

 
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Currently watching this video, he is a very good presenter. Great Information!
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T-mail in our family we call it.

It works..when you realize what you can do.


When lil johnny was growing up-his mom called him lil man.


Johnny was 52 when his mom passed.


He was working down by his little pond with a chain saw.

He was happily working he said...then he heard be careful lil man in his head...he kept on..kinda shaking it off..it was something he hadn't heard since a teenager..he wondered why now..he heard it again more stressful..kept working..he heard it again and it was important he be careful--it was being relayed-he tightened his grip on the saw..it blew back..on him..had he not listened to that voice..that transmission..his mom sent..he would have been wouded far worse that he was.


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Notice what he said about Microsoft Windows.

Good thread, holy shit!
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i loved the vid toocool2
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Yes of course but it all falls apart if the electron is a deception:

Thread: The electron is a deception designed to keep us in the dark about reality
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[link to lesvisible.blogspot.com]

I’m fond of saying that physicist have proven that the universe is thought born and that everything we see, touch, hear, taste and smell is composed of mindstuff. I’ve long had an image in my mind of science, cyclopean and with its one eye turned toward whatever corporate profit and physical comfort demand, lurching up the highway of discovery and comprehension and forever ignoring the basic principle of what all of its venal, marketplace oriented discoveries reveal, It moves relentlessly toward an unbridgeable gulf, where eventually it stands on the ledge and looks across to the other side where it sees the poet, the mystic, the philosopher and itself, waving and smiling back at it from the other side.

[link to www.guerillamedia.co.nz] Here is yet more unneeded proof of something, those of us so inclined can accept, but which those of us not disposed toward will argue away, because it interferes with their insistence on being the only determinant of what is real and what is not. The irony of this is that the ones arguing are not real but only temporary personality projections upon a permanent screen. I hate to say that it amuses me to hear people discount what they can’t see but it does. In dark ages, science acquires a certain comical swagger for making things you can squeeze out of tubes, in order to process the contents through other tubes that process the contents into waste products. They’re also inordinately fond of their ability to develop things that can kill large numbers of people very quickly.

When science and industry get together you eventually wind up with a perfect shit storm of catastrophes and the periodic end of civilizations. Like the arrow on the map says, “You are here”. There’s no good result when money and science get into bed together because all of their offspring turn out to be bloodthirsty troglodytes that eat their makers, which is certainly fitting but... they also eat everyone else too.

So people are making much about the Hadron Collider and how it seems to imply that the universe is permeated with an attractive force much like what we call love but generally define as anything or anyone we want, until the novelty wears off. It shouldn’t be such a big surprise that Love is the supreme engine of life and the most valuable possession in the world. The difficulty with love as an object of desire is that it requires sacrifice to reach the places of greatest power and mystery. You definitely have to pay for it. Of course, if you didn’t pay for it you wouldn’t have the capacity to contain and operate it in any case; not on the most desirable levels. The thing is, you pay for everything, no matter what it is.

Most children possess magical Love until puberty sets in and replaces it with pedestrian love. Once it’s been replaced you can’t remember what was there before it, most of the time. I should point out that Love is conscious. The Love you feel, when love it is, is conscious of itself and of you, even though you may think it is just one of a variety of emotions that you experience in the process of being alive. Love is different than anything else. It is also a science and a power of unimaginable force. We’ve got no concept of its real nature. It’s like the forces of nature. We can marvel at the power of a thunderbolt but we have no real concept of how much power is contained there. We see some small part of the ocean and we think we’ve got some idea of its magnitude. Scientists observe a law of Nature here and there and think they have some grasp of what is available. They think they’re pretty smart but mostly they are dumber than a bag of rocks because not only do they miss the best part of everything, they pervert whatever they do discover for the interests of those who want to sell you something that either hurts you or you don’t need.

Cosmic love sends us emissaries every now and then so that we can get a little insight into some small corner of love and it doesn’t take very long for the moneychangers to crucify them or grant them some other similarly suitable attention. This is why, most times, those favored by Love keep their abilities under wraps and work on the quiet. These aren’t most times and I suspect we’re going to be seeing a few things shortly. After all, if Love is the be all and end all and it is, well then, it’s bound to be in the thick of it somewhere.

Love is the integral essence and mindset of the consciousness that holds it all together. It enjoys experiencing itself so much that it divides into millions of reflections so that it can rediscover itself in a new mirror without end. Everyone wants to know, “How come if there’s a God he’s so hard to find or how come he hides all the time”. He/she is not the one who is hiding. The divine is everywhere in plain sight, here in the kingdom of the blind.

Civilization and all the things that pass for it, are the camouflage that conceals what we really are from each other. We spend our lives jumping through hoops for temporal authorities who have supplanted the indwelling authority with an external monster that feeds on fear. Fear and Love displace each other and cannot occupy the same space at the same time. I suspect this is a cosmic principle and a scientific fact and I suspect the reason that we aren’t all fully aware of it is because someone is making money off of the concealment of this truth.

It is the possession of Love which makes us divine and the lack of which that makes us something a great deal less. Of course, the whole thing is set up the way it is; is designed the way it is in order to create endless opportunities for Love to demonstrate its power. The world takes Love and attempts to turn it into a commercial item that can be sold as an unending conveyor belt load of unreasonable facsimiles, which disappoint without end. It’s new and improved and the same thing only different and it’s all potato chips and soft drinks, light and crispy and frothy with carbonation. It is love enhanced and made available as a disposable commodity, for all the disposable entities, whose value is constantly reduced by the drive to raise up the temporary as a God of desirable mortality for everyone who has lost their way and intends to keep on going for as long as it takes. Since it can’t be found there it can literally go on forever.

A great deal has been said about Love over time. Most of the great art in every field has been motivated and inspired by it. The most important thing about love to be aware of is that it is conscious. It is aware of itself. It contains the universe within it and is the sole reason that it exists at all. Of course it holds it all together and is attracted to itself in uncountable ways.

The world of the moment is what happens when Love is preempted by dreams of material splendor and control. For the world to be what it is there must always be some portion of this present. It is up to the individual soul to choose what it favors as a goal for its existence. You can have anything you want but you should expect it to turn into something else as soon as you possess it.

So, it doesn’t surprise me about the Hadron Collider and I don’t expect any of the other things we find out to surprise me much either. That’s because I’ve never had any problem believing that Love is all the things the poets have attributed to it and ever so much more. It’s not just conscious, it’s nutritive and it has a memory as well. It’s also omniscient so it knows everything everyone has thought and said and done in public and in private and it has a way of rewarding its friends and punishing its enemies. Yes, Love has enemies and most of them have to do with money and power, both of which seek to possess a value equal to love. That’s another thing that makes me laugh.

People ask me what I expect to happen in the near future. Basically I expect Love to awaken from its dream of life and become conscious within the hearts and minds suitable for the occurrence. I expect what’s been hidden to be revealed and I expect those lording it over the rest of us to flee in all directions and try to pull the Earth up over them so they can hide from the sudden appearance of a light that was not in their calculations the day before. I expect things of a rather fantastic order and I expect them fairly soon but maybe not that soon in human terms but soon enough to be soon.


End Transmission.......
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i loved the vid toocool2
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Glad you found it enlightening!
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this is religious belief in something based on theory.
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You never bothered reading the peer reviewed scientific paperwork, thus everything you talk about is based on faith and belief. Science is a religion in and of itself... and thus very closed off the the wider possibilities of reality.
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Could you cite the peer reviews?

If they were actually done they will be available.

And if the "peers" are people like Ingo Swann-dive that is hardly "proof" of anything as that guy is useless at best.
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absolutely fascinating stuff, thanks for posting it.
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It will only communicate itself to you when you believe
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Actually when you do that, then you will just self delude yourself.
 Quoting: JJ 1217128


Just because you can't see something doesn't mean it isn't there... and just because you can, doesn't mean it is.
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Telepathy is not based on believing in something that is not there, but it is based on having a consciousness developed enough to be able to ascertain the signals being sent and also to send signals of thought out to others. Consciousness is developed through truth, knowledge and wisdom, never belief or faith, because these are based on blind superstition.
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^This...

Telepathy is the perceiving of the subtleties.
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[link to lesvisible.blogspot.com]

I’m fond of saying that physicist have proven that the universe is thought born and that everything we see, touch, hear, taste and smell is composed of mindstuff. I’ve long had an image in my mind of science, cyclopean and with its one eye turned toward whatever corporate profit and physical comfort demand, lurching up the highway of discovery and comprehension and forever ignoring the basic principle of what all of its venal, marketplace oriented discoveries reveal, It moves relentlessly toward an unbridgeable gulf, where eventually it stands on the ledge and looks across to the other side where it sees the poet, the mystic, the philosopher and itself, waving and smiling back at it from the other side.

[link to www.guerillamedia.co.nz] Here is yet more unneeded proof of something, those of us so inclined can accept, but which those of us not disposed toward will argue away, because it interferes with their insistence on being the only determinant of what is real and what is not. The irony of this is that the ones arguing are not real but only temporary personality projections upon a permanent screen. I hate to say that it amuses me to hear people discount what they can’t see but it does. In dark ages, science acquires a certain comical swagger for making things you can squeeze out of tubes, in order to process the contents through other tubes that process the contents into waste products. They’re also inordinately fond of their ability to develop things that can kill large numbers of people very quickly.

When science and industry get together you eventually wind up with a perfect shit storm of catastrophes and the periodic end of civilizations. Like the arrow on the map says, “You are here”. There’s no good result when money and science get into bed together because all of their offspring turn out to be bloodthirsty troglodytes that eat their makers, which is certainly fitting but... they also eat everyone else too.

So people are making much about the Hadron Collider and how it seems to imply that the universe is permeated with an attractive force much like what we call love but generally define as anything or anyone we want, until the novelty wears off. It shouldn’t be such a big surprise that Love is the supreme engine of life and the most valuable possession in the world. The difficulty with love as an object of desire is that it requires sacrifice to reach the places of greatest power and mystery. You definitely have to pay for it. Of course, if you didn’t pay for it you wouldn’t have the capacity to contain and operate it in any case; not on the most desirable levels. The thing is, you pay for everything, no matter what it is.

Most children possess magical Love until puberty sets in and replaces it with pedestrian love. Once it’s been replaced you can’t remember what was there before it, most of the time. I should point out that Love is conscious. The Love you feel, when love it is, is conscious of itself and of you, even though you may think it is just one of a variety of emotions that you experience in the process of being alive. Love is different than anything else. It is also a science and a power of unimaginable force. We’ve got no concept of its real nature. It’s like the forces of nature. We can marvel at the power of a thunderbolt but we have no real concept of how much power is contained there. We see some small part of the ocean and we think we’ve got some idea of its magnitude. Scientists observe a law of Nature here and there and think they have some grasp of what is available. They think they’re pretty smart but mostly they are dumber than a bag of rocks because not only do they miss the best part of everything, they pervert whatever they do discover for the interests of those who want to sell you something that either hurts you or you don’t need.

Cosmic love sends us emissaries every now and then so that we can get a little insight into some small corner of love and it doesn’t take very long for the moneychangers to crucify them or grant them some other similarly suitable attention. This is why, most times, those favored by Love keep their abilities under wraps and work on the quiet. These aren’t most times and I suspect we’re going to be seeing a few things shortly. After all, if Love is the be all and end all and it is, well then, it’s bound to be in the thick of it somewhere.

Love is the integral essence and mindset of the consciousness that holds it all together. It enjoys experiencing itself so much that it divides into millions of reflections so that it can rediscover itself in a new mirror without end. Everyone wants to know, “How come if there’s a God he’s so hard to find or how come he hides all the time”. He/she is not the one who is hiding. The divine is everywhere in plain sight, here in the kingdom of the blind.

Civilization and all the things that pass for it, are the camouflage that conceals what we really are from each other. We spend our lives jumping through hoops for temporal authorities who have supplanted the indwelling authority with an external monster that feeds on fear. Fear and Love displace each other and cannot occupy the same space at the same time. I suspect this is a cosmic principle and a scientific fact and I suspect the reason that we aren’t all fully aware of it is because someone is making money off of the concealment of this truth.

It is the possession of Love which makes us divine and the lack of which that makes us something a great deal less. Of course, the whole thing is set up the way it is; is designed the way it is in order to create endless opportunities for Love to demonstrate its power. The world takes Love and attempts to turn it into a commercial item that can be sold as an unending conveyor belt load of unreasonable facsimiles, which disappoint without end. It’s new and improved and the same thing only different and it’s all potato chips and soft drinks, light and crispy and frothy with carbonation. It is love enhanced and made available as a disposable commodity, for all the disposable entities, whose value is constantly reduced by the drive to raise up the temporary as a God of desirable mortality for everyone who has lost their way and intends to keep on going for as long as it takes. Since it can’t be found there it can literally go on forever.

A great deal has been said about Love over time. Most of the great art in every field has been motivated and inspired by it. The most important thing about love to be aware of is that it is conscious. It is aware of itself. It contains the universe within it and is the sole reason that it exists at all. Of course it holds it all together and is attracted to itself in uncountable ways.

The world of the moment is what happens when Love is preempted by dreams of material splendor and control. For the world to be what it is there must always be some portion of this present. It is up to the individual soul to choose what it favors as a goal for its existence. You can have anything you want but you should expect it to turn into something else as soon as you possess it.

So, it doesn’t surprise me about the Hadron Collider and I don’t expect any of the other things we find out to surprise me much either. That’s because I’ve never had any problem believing that Love is all the things the poets have attributed to it and ever so much more. It’s not just conscious, it’s nutritive and it has a memory as well. It’s also omniscient so it knows everything everyone has thought and said and done in public and in private and it has a way of rewarding its friends and punishing its enemies. Yes, Love has enemies and most of them have to do with money and power, both of which seek to possess a value equal to love. That’s another thing that makes me laugh.

People ask me what I expect to happen in the near future. Basically I expect Love to awaken from its dream of life and become conscious within the hearts and minds suitable for the occurrence. I expect what’s been hidden to be revealed and I expect those lording it over the rest of us to flee in all directions and try to pull the Earth up over them so they can hide from the sudden appearance of a light that was not in their calculations the day before. I expect things of a rather fantastic order and I expect them fairly soon but maybe not that soon in human terms but soon enough to be soon.


End Transmission.......
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All truths I have come to know and understand myself...glad to see them stated.
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Ravenise, are you still about?
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NATURAL TRANSMISSION OF THOUGHT TO THE UNCONSCIOUS COLLECTIVE ALWAYS HAD BEEN.

















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Ever hear of the Persinger's God Helmet? I bought a device based on that technology. I've only used it once and didn't have much luck. It was so uncomfortable--multiple wires hanging around my head on a velcro strap that wouldn't stay put. I know one day I'll break free of this reality but I guess it won't be today.
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Ever hear of the Persinger's God Helmet? I bought a device based on that technology. I've only used it once and didn't have much luck. It was so uncomfortable--multiple wires hanging around my head on a velcro strap that wouldn't stay put. I know one day I'll break free of this reality but I guess it won't be today.
 Quoting: *NaN*


If you watch the vid it goes into the "god helmet" or Koren helmet, from what i understand there different forms available for different states...including the Shakti which is made by someone else.

Did you get any experienences youd be happy to share?im uber curious lol
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Persinger huh?

The same guy that tried to blame the magnetic fields and earthquakes as cause for the 'abduction' memories... sureeee...

rolleyes
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Persinger huh?

The same guy that tried to blame the magnetic fields and earthquakes as cause for the 'abduction' memories... sureeee...

rolleyes
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well seems theyve recreated abduction/alien visits with varying epquipment via electromeagnetics even though ive not read outright where he said that(link?) if you look at persingers work in depth you may understand why such thing could have been said.

This techs been around for quite some time.Regardless of peoples alleged affiliations or whatever, it would be foolish to at least not look into what is now becoming mainstream knowledge,for your own discernment.

put your physcics hat on though.lol
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It will only communicate itself to you when you believe
 Quoting: Ravenise


Actually when you do that, then you will just self delude yourself.
 Quoting: JJ 1217128


Just because you can't see something doesn't mean it isn't there... and just because you can, doesn't mean it is.
 Quoting: Ravenise


Telepathy is not based on believing in something that is not there, but it is based on having a consciousness developed enough to be able to ascertain the signals being sent and also to send signals of thought out to others. Consciousness is developed through truth, knowledge and wisdom, never belief or faith, because these are based on blind superstition.
 Quoting: JJ 1217128


Correct. I am amazed at how many on GLP still think this type of energy is not real. This energy is all around us. It makes everything grow. I thought people were waking up but this thread shows me different.

God is energy that creates life. We have been brainwashed into thinking we are slaves. We are very powerful when we open our minds and learn from the lies we have been told from cradle to grave. People always bring up Magic. There is no magic. Everything exist and it is up to humans to figure out how to work with God's Creation.

Peace to you
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If you watch the vid it goes into the "god helmet" or Koren helmet, from what i understand there different forms available for different states...including the Shakti which is made by someone else.

Did you get any experienences youd be happy to share?im uber curious lol
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I learned about the God Helmet from a show on TV hosted by Morgan Freeman--can't remember the name now. I have the Shakti or the Shiva--which ever is the more expensive one. I can't describe any experiences because I spent the whole time trying not to move so the thing wouldn't fall off and the magnets would stay put. It might have been easier if I were bald but I'm not *that* desperate!

I've spent the last ten years looking for devices to help me "transcend". You name it, I've tried it.
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Sun Gazing and spending time in the Sun will increase our consciousness. Our bodies are made of water and when we are energized we start to vibrate. Healing rods will increase vibrations, when held.

Peace
Amy
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If you watch the vid it goes into the "god helmet" or Koren helmet, from what i understand there different forms available for different states...including the Shakti which is made by someone else.

Did you get any experienences youd be happy to share?im uber curious lol
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I learned about the God Helmet from a show on TV hosted by Morgan Freeman--can't remember the name now. I have the Shakti or the Shiva--which ever is the more expensive one. I can't describe any experiences because I spent the whole time trying not to move so the thing wouldn't fall off and the magnets would stay put. It might have been easier if I were bald but I'm not *that* desperate!

I've spent the last ten years looking for devices to help me "transcend". You name it, I've tried it.
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well from what ive learnt so far, the best conditions are completely stress free(so worrying about moving etc blows that for a start)...and also complete silence...they use soundproof rooms.So the environment is key too.
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I'm always around Anonymous Coward. @ NaN, absolutely I've heard about the so called 'God' helmate. We are beginning to realize why inventions and evolution occurred simultaneously around the globe. everything animate and inanimate, all thoughts, everything.

This is what I posted on January 14, 2011 at 7:46pm on facebook... I may have wrote it a few months before posting. I had no previous exposure that I am aware of the theory of "Multiples," or anything of that nature, I thought these ideas were my own.

"Actually, I believe the geomagnetic field of the earth contains a holographic record of everything that has ever happened within the scope of the field. This could help explain why human beings evolved into being in multiple locations around the globe simultaneously. This is why monkeys have been known to learn how to use a tool on different islands simultaneously without any help. This is why the same or similar myths arose in different cultures of the world who had no contact with each other. This is also, I believe, where the idea of reincarnation comes from. When people are consciously aware of past lives, they are tapping into the holographic source. This can even explain the origins of ghosts."

Information has since stumbled upon me that confirms what 'I' suspected back in 2010... realizing now that I wasn't the only one thinking about this and it was passed on to me remotely.

Here is some of what found me:

[1] Author Malcolm Gladwell in The New Yorker writes that the phenomenon of simultaneous discovery, called “multiples” by science historians, is very common (added quote characters for clarity): One of the first comprehensive lists of multiples was put together by William Ogburn and Dorothy Thomas, in 1922, and they found a hundred and forty-eight major scientific discoveries that fit the multiple pattern. Newton and Leibniz both discovered calculus. Charles Darwin and Alfred Russel Wallace both discovered evolution. Three mathematicians “invented” decimal fractions. Oxygen was discovered by Joseph Priestley, in Wiltshire, in 1774, and by Carl Wilhelm Scheele, in Uppsala, a year earlier. Color photography was invented at the same time by Charles Cros and by Louis Ducos du Hauron, in France. Logarithms were invented by John Napier and Henry Briggs in Britain, and by Joost Bürgi in Switzerland. [1]


[2] David Wilcock; The Source Field Investigations -- Full Video!

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

“In science there is a documented phenomenon called “The Multiples Effect.” Now the phenomenon of multiples was cataloged as having occurred 148 times by 1922. Now what is multiples? Multiples refers to different scientists who are isolated from each-other who are not reading about each-others work independently coming up with exactly the same discoveries at almost exactly the same time.

I'm just going to give you a few examples. Calculus was discovered independently by more than one scientist at a time. The theory of evolution, it wasn't just Darwin there were other scientists working on it at the same time. Decimal fractions. The discovery of the oxygen molecule. The discovery of color photography. The discovery of logarithms. The discovery of sunspots in the 1600's. The discovery of the law of conservation of energy. Six different people simultaneously invented the thermometer, each of whom thinking that they discovered it themselves and that they deserve the credit for it. 9 different people independently discovered the telescope at the same time and all wanted to be credited with the discovery. Multiple individuals invented the typewriter at the same time and five different people invited the steamboat at the same time. So what I am telling you is that as we are working at these problems, as our mind is trying to solve something and we start to have new insights its as if those insights are actually creating an informational field... a code that goes into this global mind that we're all sharing and other people can access that information directly.” David Willcock: “The Source Field Investigations” [2]


P.15, A History of Modern Psychology [3] Naturalistic theory: The view that progress and change in scientific history are attributable to the Zeitgeist which makes a culture receptive to some ideas but not to others.


We can see, then, that the notion that the person makes the times is not entirely correct. Perhaps. as the naturalistic theory of history proposes, the times make the person, or at least make possible the recognition and acceptance of what that person has to say. Unless the Zeitgeist and other contextual forces are receptive to the new work, its proponent may not be heard. or they may be shunned or put to death. Society's response. too, depends on the Zeitgeist.

Consider the example of Charles Darwin. The naturalistic theory suggests that if Darwin had died young, someone else would have developed a theory of evolution in the mid-nineteenth century because the intellectual climate was ready to accept such a way of explaining the origin of the human species. (indeed. someone else did develop the same theory at the same time, as we see in Chapter 6.)

The inhibiting or delaying effet of the Zeitgeist operates not only at the broad cultural level but also within science itself, where its effects may be more pronounced. The concept of the conditioned response was suggested by the Scottish scientist Robert Whytt in I763, but no one was interested then. Well over a century later, when researchers were adopting more objective research methods, the Russian physiologist Ivan Pavlov elaborated on Whytt's observations and expanded them into the basis of a new system of psychology. Thus, a discovery often must await its time. One psychologist wisely noted. “There is not much new in this world. What passes for discovery these days tends to be an individual scientist's rediscovery of some well-established phenomenon" (Gazzaniga, 19sa, p. 231).

Instances of simultaneous discovery also support the naturalistic conception of scientilic history. Similar discoveries have been made by individuals working far apart geographically, often in ignorance of one another's work. In 1900, three investigators unknown to one another coincidentally rediscovered the work of Austrian botanist Gregor Mendel, whose writings on genetics had been largely ignored for 35 years. Other examples of simultaneous discovery in science and technology include calculus. oxygen, logarithms, sun spots, and the conversion of energy, as well as the invention of color photography and the typewriter, all discovered or promoted at approximately the same time by at least two researchers (Gladwell. 2008; Ogbum Br Thomas. 1922).

Nevertheless, the dominant theoretical position in a scientific field may obstruct or prohibit consideration of new viewpoints. A theory may be believed so strongly by the majority of scientists that any investigation of new issues or methods is stitled. An established theory can determine the ways in which data are organized and analyzed as well as the research results pemtitted to be published in mainstream scientific journals. Findings that contradict or oppose current thinking may be rejected by a journal’s editors. who function as gatekeepers or censors, enforcing conformity of thought by dismissing or trivializing revolutionary ideas or unusual interpretations.

An analysis of articles that appeared in two psychology journals (one published in the United States and the other in Germany) over a 30-year period from the 1890s to 1920 examined the question of how important each article was considered to be at the time of publication and at a later date. Level of importance was measured by the number of citations to the articles in subsequent publications. The results showed clearly that by this measure, the level of scientific importance of the articles depended on whether the “research topics [were] in the focus of scientific attention at the time" (Langc, 2005. p. 209). Issues not in keeping with currently accepted ideas were judged to be less important.


The Myth Of Unique Ideas
[link to www.podcomplex.com]

Simultaneous Inventions and Patents
[link to www.terminally-incoherent.com]

[1] Sometimes Ideas Are in the Air

[link to www.gototheboard.com]

[2] David Wilcock: The Source Field Investigations -- Full Video!
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

[3] P.15, A History of Modern Psychology
By Duane P. Schultz, Sydney Ellen Schultz

[link to books.google.ca]
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Why re-invent the wheel? Hi there.

The Group Consciousness, Telepathic Resonance.
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"Dog Poet Transmitting.......

May your noses always be cold and wet.

About a week ago, I was sitting at this computer and I started to sing the song from the movie, “The Bodyguard”; “I will Always Love You”. I'm sure there are any number of people who think that song is a piece of sanitized, denatured shit, like “Feelings” and “Mammaries” (from the corner of my eye). It may be, I suppose. It's one of those songs that will surface every now and then in my head and I will sing it because it's a gas to hit those high notes with my falsetto. Anyway, I had heard a snatch of it somewhere, a commercial, a rendition, or in my head and I was singing it and then I decided I had to see the movie so I got it and watched it; that was just a few days ago.

Late last night, or early this morning; take your pick, I learned that Whitney Houston, who sang the song and appeared in the movie, was dead. This posting isn't about Whitney Houston, who had one of the finest voices to come down the pike in a long time. This posting is about something I talk about in the radio show tonight. It's tied in to my recent trip and something Robert Phoenix mentioned to me on his radio show, Friday (please do not cue Rebecca Black).

Mitt Romney and George W. Bush are cousins. Holy Dickwad, Batshit! (this is Petri Dish- nope, it's now going to be Origami, sorry about that). There's no connection that I know of between this and today's posting but I thought you ought to know. It's one of those interesting things, like Bush being related to the Queen of England.

Back to the theme of this commentary. During my interview with Robert, he said, “I think you went through an initiation during your trip”. I didn't get that at all, although I was told before I left that something like that was going to happen and that I was going to meet someone who would change my life. I took this to mean, at any point in my travels; should I at some point still go to South Africa or a couple of other places that are tentatively on my list.

While I was doing my radio show yesterday, I suddenly started talking about something that was new to me, right while I was talking about it. It was something I knew but didn't know, if that makes any sense and it made perfect sense to me. As I said in the interview, I am a little ahead of the curve, due to my awakened Kundalini. I'm not saying this to attach any exclusivity to myself but simply because it is true. I get things ahead of the general population. Of course, I am not the only one that this applies to. There are others, some are engaged in a manner similar to my own and some are sub rosa.

Regular readers of these blogs are familiar with how often a reader will say, “I was just thinking about that this morning”, or an hour ago, or yesterday. Or they will say, “You just articulated what has been in my head for a long time”. This happens with a frequency that borders on the supernatural. I often refer to it as 'resonance'. We have sympathetic strings, our vibrations are tuned to each other or, things pass from you into me and then back out to you.

One of the things that happened to me when I had my first Kundalini experience, which lasted at a high pitch for 3 years, was that I instantly became telepathic. The Kundalini fire burned away my sense of a personal self and there were no longer any boundaries between me and another person. I was with John Hall (who played with Orleans and recently was a congressman from New York) and several other musicians. When my Kundalini rose and did its number, I was immediately right inside John's mind and I could read his thoughts. He reacted with shock and horror and pushed hard against me in my mind to drive me away. That didn't work though because there is only one mind and once the barrier or boundary of your own mind is gone, access to other minds is pretty automatic. You might ask, what about the barriers in other people's minds? Well, there really aren't any barriers. We are reading each others minds on a certain level all the time but most people don't cue into this. That was pretty much the end of my relationship with John and also the end of whoever I thought I was before this. Later on, I understood the connection between this happening to me and the terrible abuse I suffered at the hands of my earthly father. The false self was being rigorously pummeled out of me. This did not mean the end of the ego, or other features that compose the schematic of human personality. This meant that the stratified identity was gone. Since that happened, I often feel people's faces in my own when I am near them and I can look in the mirror, when I am psychedelicized, and see faces from other times and places morphing in and out of my features.

I'm talking about what I am talking about today, with the intent of giving you a strong boost in terms of your confidence and hopes for the future. This came to me, as I have already said, right while I was doing the radio show for tonight. Very often my mind can be thinking along a particular train of thought, while I am speaking about another train of thought at the same time. We all have some degree of this.

I was thinking about the bad guys and the good guys and the various ways in which whatever is coming could go down and it was then that the telepathy and resonance factor came together in my mind and I saw what was coming. This whole transition process, which is coming by degrees of force and intensity and which has to do with awakening, is bringing with it a collective telepathy. We are already seeing how that works at these blogs. You can look at flash mobs and the Occupy movements as having a similar core unification expression.

We who are being awakened, are moving into a group consciousness state of being. This will facilitate too many wonders to enumerate. It will not only be unifying but it will be a source for a tremendous power of expression and reaction to an entrenched darkness that is on it's way out. Neptune is bringing it in because it is Neptune that dispels boundaries. Neptune was doing a serious number on me right up to the point where I suddenly understood what was happening and now? Now and as soon as this whole understanding became known to me, everything evened out. Amazing, from my end of the spectrum. This descending force, coming down from the inner planes, is bringing two states of mind; clarity and confusion. How this impacts on you depends on what you are up to. The high and mighty oppressors of humanity have no defense against what is soon to happen inside their own minds, nor have they any idea of the power of the unified minds of the other side of the equation.

It is said that God is Love. It is understood that Love expresses itself in unity and one can see the arriving avatar as a unification of consciousness in the minds of those susceptible to the force of his arrival. His energy mistress will be the awakening into the experience of the divine feminine, expressed in the powers that are resident in her. You can kind of see that bride and bridegroom thing that is also expressed in the alchemical marriage.

If what I am saying is true then that is a positive consideration indeed, because, as the speed and force of the descent increases, so will the relative outworking of conditions and phenomena, as they apply to oppressor and recently oppressed. Occultists, Wicca enthusiasts and tribal peoples have long known about the power of collective focus on a common end. Just imagine when this same thing become exponential, in the minds of thousands and tens of thousands ...and who knows? Who knows to what an extent this may occur?

I've been experiencing this over the last six weeks or more and didn't tumble to the implications. Now it seems to me that this must be so and the uncertainty that was troubling me just vanished away into the air when the full implications of this dawned on me.

It is mind blowing to me how one can walk through dark places and suddenly break out into an entirely different environment and the whole trail of movement becomes nothing more than the portions of your journey, connected in a whole cloth expression of what you are. We truly are on the verge of a great adventure, a dynamic shift in consciousness that will put paid to all the doubt and fear that has dogged our tracks for so long. I've always known that the divine was going to work it all out but I had nary a clue about how and it puzzled and troubled me now and again, when it should not have.

I now understand much more deeply the whole point about reliance. To the degree that I can be, to that degree I can become and so goes it for us all. This is the difference between excitement and terror. It's the same ride but people are having different experiences, due to their attachment to the passing familiar or their embrace of the new and arriving. Letting go is key to going. I hope I have, to some small degree, expressed what I am seeing and feeling at the moment and I sincerely hope this resonates with you.


End Transmission.......

There will be a radio show tonight at the usual time and in the usual place see the pulldown menu for the blogs for all the details."
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I'm always around Anonymous Coward. @ NaN, absolutely I've heard about the so called 'God' helmate. We are beginning to realize why inventions and evolution occurred simultaneously around the globe. everything animate and inanimate, all thoughts, everything.

This is what I posted on January 14, 2011 at 7:46pm on facebook... I may have wrote it a few months before posting. I had no previous exposure that I am aware of the theory of "Multiples," or anything of that nature, I thought these ideas were my own.

"Actually, I believe the geomagnetic field of the earth contains a holographic record of everything that has ever happened within the scope of the field. This could help explain why human beings evolved into being in multiple locations around the globe simultaneously. This is why monkeys have been known to learn how to use a tool on different islands simultaneously without any help. This is why the same or similar myths arose in different cultures of the world who had no contact with each other. This is also, I believe, where the idea of reincarnation comes from. When people are consciously aware of past lives, they are tapping into the holographic source. This can even explain the origins of ghosts."

Information has since stumbled upon me that confirms what 'I' suspected back in 2010... realizing now that I wasn't the only one thinking about this and it was passed on to me remotely.

Here is some of what found me:

[1] Author Malcolm Gladwell in The New Yorker writes that the phenomenon of simultaneous discovery, called “multiples” by science historians, is very common (added quote characters for clarity): One of the first comprehensive lists of multiples was put together by William Ogburn and Dorothy Thomas, in 1922, and they found a hundred and forty-eight major scientific discoveries that fit the multiple pattern. Newton and Leibniz both discovered calculus. Charles Darwin and Alfred Russel Wallace both discovered evolution. Three mathematicians “invented” decimal fractions. Oxygen was discovered by Joseph Priestley, in Wiltshire, in 1774, and by Carl Wilhelm Scheele, in Uppsala, a year earlier. Color photography was invented at the same time by Charles Cros and by Louis Ducos du Hauron, in France. Logarithms were invented by John Napier and Henry Briggs in Britain, and by Joost Bürgi in Switzerland. [1]


[2] David Wilcock; The Source Field Investigations -- Full Video!

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

“In science there is a documented phenomenon called “The Multiples Effect.” Now the phenomenon of multiples was cataloged as having occurred 148 times by 1922. Now what is multiples? Multiples refers to different scientists who are isolated from each-other who are not reading about each-others work independently coming up with exactly the same discoveries at almost exactly the same time.

I'm just going to give you a few examples. Calculus was discovered independently by more than one scientist at a time. The theory of evolution, it wasn't just Darwin there were other scientists working on it at the same time. Decimal fractions. The discovery of the oxygen molecule. The discovery of color photography. The discovery of logarithms. The discovery of sunspots in the 1600's. The discovery of the law of conservation of energy. Six different people simultaneously invented the thermometer, each of whom thinking that they discovered it themselves and that they deserve the credit for it. 9 different people independently discovered the telescope at the same time and all wanted to be credited with the discovery. Multiple individuals invented the typewriter at the same time and five different people invited the steamboat at the same time. So what I am telling you is that as we are working at these problems, as our mind is trying to solve something and we start to have new insights its as if those insights are actually creating an informational field... a code that goes into this global mind that we're all sharing and other people can access that information directly.” David Willcock: “The Source Field Investigations” [2]


P.15, A History of Modern Psychology [3] Naturalistic theory: The view that progress and change in scientific history are attributable to the Zeitgeist which makes a culture receptive to some ideas but not to others.


We can see, then, that the notion that the person makes the times is not entirely correct. Perhaps. as the naturalistic theory of history proposes, the times make the person, or at least make possible the recognition and acceptance of what that person has to say. Unless the Zeitgeist and other contextual forces are receptive to the new work, its proponent may not be heard. or they may be shunned or put to death. Society's response. too, depends on the Zeitgeist.

Consider the example of Charles Darwin. The naturalistic theory suggests that if Darwin had died young, someone else would have developed a theory of evolution in the mid-nineteenth century because the intellectual climate was ready to accept such a way of explaining the origin of the human species. (indeed. someone else did develop the same theory at the same time, as we see in Chapter 6.)

The inhibiting or delaying effet of the Zeitgeist operates not only at the broad cultural level but also within science itself, where its effects may be more pronounced. The concept of the conditioned response was suggested by the Scottish scientist Robert Whytt in I763, but no one was interested then. Well over a century later, when researchers were adopting more objective research methods, the Russian physiologist Ivan Pavlov elaborated on Whytt's observations and expanded them into the basis of a new system of psychology. Thus, a discovery often must await its time. One psychologist wisely noted. “There is not much new in this world. What passes for discovery these days tends to be an individual scientist's rediscovery of some well-established phenomenon" (Gazzaniga, 19sa, p. 231).

Instances of simultaneous discovery also support the naturalistic conception of scientilic history. Similar discoveries have been made by individuals working far apart geographically, often in ignorance of one another's work. In 1900, three investigators unknown to one another coincidentally rediscovered the work of Austrian botanist Gregor Mendel, whose writings on genetics had been largely ignored for 35 years. Other examples of simultaneous discovery in science and technology include calculus. oxygen, logarithms, sun spots, and the conversion of energy, as well as the invention of color photography and the typewriter, all discovered or promoted at approximately the same time by at least two researchers (Gladwell. 2008; Ogbum Br Thomas. 1922).

Nevertheless, the dominant theoretical position in a scientific field may obstruct or prohibit consideration of new viewpoints. A theory may be believed so strongly by the majority of scientists that any investigation of new issues or methods is stitled. An established theory can determine the ways in which data are organized and analyzed as well as the research results pemtitted to be published in mainstream scientific journals. Findings that contradict or oppose current thinking may be rejected by a journal’s editors. who function as gatekeepers or censors, enforcing conformity of thought by dismissing or trivializing revolutionary ideas or unusual interpretations.

An analysis of articles that appeared in two psychology journals (one published in the United States and the other in Germany) over a 30-year period from the 1890s to 1920 examined the question of how important each article was considered to be at the time of publication and at a later date. Level of importance was measured by the number of citations to the articles in subsequent publications. The results showed clearly that by this measure, the level of scientific importance of the articles depended on whether the “research topics [were] in the focus of scientific attention at the time" (Langc, 2005. p. 209). Issues not in keeping with currently accepted ideas were judged to be less important.


The Myth Of Unique Ideas
[link to www.podcomplex.com]

Simultaneous Inventions and Patents
[link to www.terminally-incoherent.com]

[1] Sometimes Ideas Are in the Air

[link to www.gototheboard.com]

[2] David Wilcock: The Source Field Investigations -- Full Video!
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

[3] P.15, A History of Modern Psychology
By Duane P. Schultz, Sydney Ellen Schultz

[link to books.google.ca]
 Quoting: Ravenise


hihi!very interesting about multiples, something ive thought about myself and even experienced somewhat, not so much as large ideas or inventions but definately having the"same idea" as someone else.

lol ive often thought there are no original ideas hehe

Thankyou youve just offered up another tangent for me.

hf
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I do wonder though if all information is available at all times will that mean loss of individual type personality...even slowly over generations.
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I am sorry, the link to "David Wilcock: The Source Field Investigations -- Full Video!" was damaged by this forums shady posting system.

Here is the link [link to DON'T_USE-THIS]

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