Scientific Proof of Telepathy & The Geomagnetic Field: Dr. Michael Persinger (No More Secrets!) | |
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JJ User ID: 1217128 United States 03/22/2012 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually when you do that, then you will just self delude yourself. Just because you can't see something doesn't mean it isn't there... and just because you can, doesn't mean it is. Telepathy is not based on believing in something that is not there, but it is based on having a consciousness developed enough to be able to ascertain the signals being sent and also to send signals of thought out to others. Consciousness is developed through truth, knowledge and wisdom, never belief or faith, because these are based on blind superstition. |
Ravenise (OP) User ID: 9247906 Canada 03/22/2012 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Telepathy is not based on believing in something that is not there, but it is based on having a consciousness developed enough to be able to ascertain the signals being sent and also to send signals of thought out to others. Consciousness is developed through truth, knowledge and wisdom, never belief or faith, because these are based on blind superstition. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12970653 Faith is the substance of things unseen. Everything you can imagine is possible... there are no boundaries. God knows no boundaries, only we do. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1364770 United States 03/22/2012 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | by proof do you mean there are people without a doubt using telepathy in this video? because anything else is just more pseudoscientific speculation. if it's proven then let's see some fuckin telepathy already! |
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Ravenise (OP) User ID: 9247906 Canada 03/22/2012 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | by proof do you mean there are people without a doubt using telepathy in this video? because anything else is just more pseudoscientific speculation. if it's proven then let's see some fuckin telepathy already! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1364770 I am not your research assistant, check out the peer reviewed scientific reports and papers. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1364770 United States 03/22/2012 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | by proof do you mean there are people without a doubt using telepathy in this video? because anything else is just more pseudoscientific speculation. if it's proven then let's see some fuckin telepathy already! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1364770 I am not your research assistant, check out the peer reviewed scientific reports and papers. so the answer is No. thanks. good job on the misleading title i'm sure you'll get plenty of views! proof my ass lol. |
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Ravenise (OP) User ID: 9247906 Canada 03/22/2012 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | by proof do you mean there are people without a doubt using telepathy in this video? because anything else is just more pseudoscientific speculation. if it's proven then let's see some fuckin telepathy already! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1364770 I am not your research assistant, check out the peer reviewed scientific reports and papers. so the answer is No. thanks. good job on the misleading title i'm sure you'll get plenty of views! proof my ass lol. You are proof of telepathy. Read these: Persinger, M.A. Geophysical variables and behavior: LV. Predicting the details of visitor experiences and the personality of experiments: The temporal lobe factor. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 1989, 68, 55-65. DeSano, C.F., & Persinger, M.A. Geophysical variables and behavior: XXXIX. Alterations in imaginings and suggestibility during brief magnetic field exposures. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 1987, 64, 968-970. Ruttan, L., Persinger, M.A., & Koren, S. Enhancement of temporal lobe-related experiences during brief exposures to milligauss intensity extremely low frequency magnetic fields. Journal of Bioelectricity, 1990, 9(1), 33-54. Arango, M.A., & Persinger, M.A. Geophysical variables and behavior: LII. Decreased geomagnetic activity and spontaneous telepathic experiences from the Sidgwick collection. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 1988, 67, 907-910. Persinger, M.A. (1987). Spontaneous telepathic experiences from phantasms of the living and low global geomagnetic activity. The Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 83, 23-36. Mantle, E., & Persinger, M.A. Alterations in subjective evaluations during acute exposures to 5-Hz but not 9-Hz magnetic field devices. Journal of Bioelectricity, 1983, 2, 5-14. Persinger, M.A. Global geomagnetic activity and anomalous psychological experiences concerning death and crisis: further replications. Society for Scientific Exploration. Sixth Annual Meeting (Austin, Texas), May 29-30, 1987. Persinger, M.A. The problems of human exposure to ELF magnetic fields. Keynote Address. PACE Conference. Learned Societies. Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, June 1982. Persinger, M.A. Geophysical variables and behavior: LXXI. Differential contribution of geomagnetic activity to paranormal experiences concerning death and crisis: An alternative to the ESP hypothesis. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 1993, 76, 555-562. Persinger, M.A. (1987). Spontaneous telepathic experiences from phantasms of the living and low global geomagnetic activity. The Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 83, 23-36. & Krippner, S & Persinger, M.A., . Experimental dream telepathy, clairvoyance and geomagnetic activity. Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 1989, 83, 101-116. Lewicki, D.R., Schaut, G.H. & Persinger, M.A. (1987). Geophysical variables and behavior: XIV. Days of subjective precognitive experiences and the days before the actual events display correlated geomagnetic activity. Perceptual & Motor Skills, 65(1), 173-174. Lewicki, D.R., Schaut, G.H., & Persinger, M.A. Geophysical variables and behavior: XLIV. Days of subjective precognitive experiences and the days before the actual events display correlated geomagnetic activity. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 1987, 65, 173-174. Persinger, M.A. and Schaut G.B. (1988). Geomagnetic factors in subject telepathic, precognitive and postmortem experiences. The Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 82, 217-235. Schaut, G.B. & Persinger, M.A., (Presented). Intense subjective experiences occur during days of quiet, global geomagnetic activity. Presented at the 100th year Anniversary of the American Society for Psychical Research: The 28th Annual Convention of the Parapsychological Association), 12-16 August, 1985, Tufts University, Medford, Mass. Persinger, M.A. (1985). Geophysical variables and behavior: XXX. Intense paranormal experiences occur during days of quite, global, geomagnetic activity. Perceptual & Motor Skills, 61, 320-322. Schaut, G.B. & Persinger, M.A. (1985). Geophysical variables and behavior: XXXI. Global geomagnetic activity during spontaneous paranormal experiences: A replication. Perceptual & Motor Skills, 61(2), 412-414. Gearhart, L., & Persinger, M.A. Geophysical variables and human behavior. Onsets of historical and contemporary poltergeist episodes occurred with sudden increases in geomagnetic activity. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 1986, 62, 463-466. Persinger, M.A. (1987). Spontaneous telepathic experiences from phantasms of the living and low global geomagnetic activity. The Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 83, 23-36. Lewicki, D.R., Schaut, G.H. & Persinger, M.A. (1987). Geophysical variables and behavior: XIV. Days of subjective precognitive experiences and the days before the actual events display correlated geomagnetic activity. Perceptual & Motor Skills, 65(1), 173-174. Lewicki, D.R., Schaut, G.H., & Persinger, M.A. Geophysical variables and behavior: XLIV. Days of subjective precognitive experiences and the days before the actual events display correlated geomagnetic activity. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 1987, 65, 173-174. Persinger, M.A. and Schaut G.B. (1988). Geomagnetic factors in subject telepathic, precognitive and postmortem experiences. The Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 82, 217-235. Arango, M.A., & Persinger, M.A. Geophysical variables and behavior: LII. Decreased geomagnetic activity and spontaneous telepathic experiences from the Sidgwick collection. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 1988, 67, 907-910. Krippner, S. and Persinger, M.A. (1993). Enhancement of accuracy of telepathic dreams during periods of decreased geomagnetic activity: The William E. experiments. Proceedings of the 36th Annual Parapsychological Association 36th convention (pp. 126-131). Toronto, Canada. Persinger, M.A., Hart, B., & Thomas, A.W. Geophysical variables and behavior: LXXX. Periodicities and energetic characteristics of a strobe-light luminosity during a geomagnetic storm. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 1996, 82, 683-688. Persinger, M.A. Feelings of past lives as expected perturbations within the neurocognitive processes that generate the sense of self: contributions from limbic lability and vectorial hemisphericity. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 1996, 83, 1107-1121. Derr, J. S. and Persinger, M. A. Geophysical variables and behavior: Annual January rainfall may modulate the incidence of luminous phenomena within the San Francisco Basin. (in revision). Koren SA, Persinger MA. Possible disruption of remote viewing by complex weak magnetic fields around the stimulus site and the possibility of accessing real phase space: a pilot study. Percept Mot Skills. 2002 Dec;95(3 Pt 1):989-98. Persinger MA, Roll WG, Tiller SG, Koren SA, Cook CM. Remote viewing with the artist Ingo Swann: neuropsychological profile, electroencephalographic correlates, magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), and possible mechanisms. Percept Mot Skills. 2002 Jun;94(3 Pt 1):927-49. Persinger, M.A. (Ed.). ELF and VLF Electromagnetic Field Effects. New York: Plenum Press, 1974. Persinger, M.A. 1979. "Recent Studies (since 1973) on the Biological Effects of Low and Extremely Low Frequency Electromagnetic Fields." In S.W. Tromp (Ed.), Biometeorological Survey. Vol. 1, 1973_1974. London: Heyden, pp. 68-73. Persinger, M.A. 1983. The Effects of Transient or Intense Geomagnetic or Related Global Perturbation Upon Human Group behavior." In J.B. Calhoun (Ed.), Perspectives on Adaptation, Environment and Population. New York: Praeger, pp. 28-30. Persinger, M.A., Ludwig, W., & Ossenkopp, K._P. Physiological effects of electromagnetic fields in the ELF region. Archives fur Meteorologie, Geophysiks und Bioklimatologie, Series B, 1973, 21, 110-116. Persinger, M.A., Ludwig, H.W., & Ossenkopp, K._P. Psychophysiological effects of extremely low frequency electromagnetic fields: a review. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 1973, 36, 1131-1159. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1364770 United States 03/22/2012 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | by proof do you mean there are people without a doubt using telepathy in this video? because anything else is just more pseudoscientific speculation. if it's proven then let's see some fuckin telepathy already! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1364770 I am not your research assistant, check out the peer reviewed scientific reports and papers. so the answer is No. thanks. good job on the misleading title i'm sure you'll get plenty of views! proof my ass lol. You are proof of telepathy. Read these: Persinger, M.A. Geophysical variables and behavior: LV. Predicting the details of visitor experiences and the personality of experiments: The temporal lobe factor. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 1989, 68, 55-65. DeSano, C.F., & Persinger, M.A. Geophysical variables and behavior: XXXIX. Alterations in imaginings and suggestibility during brief magnetic field exposures. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 1987, 64, 968-970. Ruttan, L., Persinger, M.A., & Koren, S. Enhancement of temporal lobe-related experiences during brief exposures to milligauss intensity extremely low frequency magnetic fields. Journal of Bioelectricity, 1990, 9(1), 33-54. Arango, M.A., & Persinger, M.A. Geophysical variables and behavior: LII. Decreased geomagnetic activity and spontaneous telepathic experiences from the Sidgwick collection. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 1988, 67, 907-910. Persinger, M.A. (1987). Spontaneous telepathic experiences from phantasms of the living and low global geomagnetic activity. The Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 83, 23-36. Mantle, E., & Persinger, M.A. Alterations in subjective evaluations during acute exposures to 5-Hz but not 9-Hz magnetic field devices. Journal of Bioelectricity, 1983, 2, 5-14. Persinger, M.A. Global geomagnetic activity and anomalous psychological experiences concerning death and crisis: further replications. Society for Scientific Exploration. Sixth Annual Meeting (Austin, Texas), May 29-30, 1987. Persinger, M.A. The problems of human exposure to ELF magnetic fields. Keynote Address. PACE Conference. Learned Societies. Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, June 1982. Persinger, M.A. Geophysical variables and behavior: LXXI. Differential contribution of geomagnetic activity to paranormal experiences concerning death and crisis: An alternative to the ESP hypothesis. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 1993, 76, 555-562. Persinger, M.A. (1987). Spontaneous telepathic experiences from phantasms of the living and low global geomagnetic activity. The Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 83, 23-36. & Krippner, S & Persinger, M.A., . Experimental dream telepathy, clairvoyance and geomagnetic activity. Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 1989, 83, 101-116. Lewicki, D.R., Schaut, G.H. & Persinger, M.A. (1987). Geophysical variables and behavior: XIV. Days of subjective precognitive experiences and the days before the actual events display correlated geomagnetic activity. Perceptual & Motor Skills, 65(1), 173-174. Lewicki, D.R., Schaut, G.H., & Persinger, M.A. Geophysical variables and behavior: XLIV. Days of subjective precognitive experiences and the days before the actual events display correlated geomagnetic activity. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 1987, 65, 173-174. Persinger, M.A. and Schaut G.B. (1988). Geomagnetic factors in subject telepathic, precognitive and postmortem experiences. The Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 82, 217-235. Schaut, G.B. & Persinger, M.A., (Presented). Intense subjective experiences occur during days of quiet, global geomagnetic activity. Presented at the 100th year Anniversary of the American Society for Psychical Research: The 28th Annual Convention of the Parapsychological Association), 12-16 August, 1985, Tufts University, Medford, Mass. Persinger, M.A. (1985). Geophysical variables and behavior: XXX. Intense paranormal experiences occur during days of quite, global, geomagnetic activity. Perceptual & Motor Skills, 61, 320-322. Schaut, G.B. & Persinger, M.A. (1985). Geophysical variables and behavior: XXXI. Global geomagnetic activity during spontaneous paranormal experiences: A replication. Perceptual & Motor Skills, 61(2), 412-414. Gearhart, L., & Persinger, M.A. Geophysical variables and human behavior. Onsets of historical and contemporary poltergeist episodes occurred with sudden increases in geomagnetic activity. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 1986, 62, 463-466. Persinger, M.A. (1987). Spontaneous telepathic experiences from phantasms of the living and low global geomagnetic activity. The Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 83, 23-36. Lewicki, D.R., Schaut, G.H. & Persinger, M.A. (1987). Geophysical variables and behavior: XIV. Days of subjective precognitive experiences and the days before the actual events display correlated geomagnetic activity. Perceptual & Motor Skills, 65(1), 173-174. Lewicki, D.R., Schaut, G.H., & Persinger, M.A. Geophysical variables and behavior: XLIV. Days of subjective precognitive experiences and the days before the actual events display correlated geomagnetic activity. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 1987, 65, 173-174. Persinger, M.A. and Schaut G.B. (1988). Geomagnetic factors in subject telepathic, precognitive and postmortem experiences. The Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 82, 217-235. Arango, M.A., & Persinger, M.A. Geophysical variables and behavior: LII. Decreased geomagnetic activity and spontaneous telepathic experiences from the Sidgwick collection. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 1988, 67, 907-910. Krippner, S. and Persinger, M.A. (1993). Enhancement of accuracy of telepathic dreams during periods of decreased geomagnetic activity: The William E. experiments. Proceedings of the 36th Annual Parapsychological Association 36th convention (pp. 126-131). Toronto, Canada. Persinger, M.A., Hart, B., & Thomas, A.W. Geophysical variables and behavior: LXXX. Periodicities and energetic characteristics of a strobe-light luminosity during a geomagnetic storm. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 1996, 82, 683-688. Persinger, M.A. Feelings of past lives as expected perturbations within the neurocognitive processes that generate the sense of self: contributions from limbic lability and vectorial hemisphericity. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 1996, 83, 1107-1121. Derr, J. S. and Persinger, M. A. Geophysical variables and behavior: Annual January rainfall may modulate the incidence of luminous phenomena within the San Francisco Basin. (in revision). Koren SA, Persinger MA. Possible disruption of remote viewing by complex weak magnetic fields around the stimulus site and the possibility of accessing real phase space: a pilot study. Percept Mot Skills. 2002 Dec;95(3 Pt 1):989-98. Persinger MA, Roll WG, Tiller SG, Koren SA, Cook CM. Remote viewing with the artist Ingo Swann: neuropsychological profile, electroencephalographic correlates, magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), and possible mechanisms. Percept Mot Skills. 2002 Jun;94(3 Pt 1):927-49. Persinger, M.A. (Ed.). ELF and VLF Electromagnetic Field Effects. New York: Plenum Press, 1974. Persinger, M.A. 1979. "Recent Studies (since 1973) on the Biological Effects of Low and Extremely Low Frequency Electromagnetic Fields." In S.W. Tromp (Ed.), Biometeorological Survey. Vol. 1, 1973_1974. London: Heyden, pp. 68-73. Persinger, M.A. 1983. The Effects of Transient or Intense Geomagnetic or Related Global Perturbation Upon Human Group behavior." In J.B. Calhoun (Ed.), Perspectives on Adaptation, Environment and Population. New York: Praeger, pp. 28-30. Persinger, M.A., Ludwig, W., & Ossenkopp, K._P. Physiological effects of electromagnetic fields in the ELF region. Archives fur Meteorologie, Geophysiks und Bioklimatologie, Series B, 1973, 21, 110-116. Persinger, M.A., Ludwig, H.W., & Ossenkopp, K._P. Psychophysiological effects of extremely low frequency electromagnetic fields: a review. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 1973, 36, 1131-1159. we have no proven cases of it happening, we can't recreate it in a lab or in any circumstances, so all the research is theoretical, speculation. we can read, write and speak about the possibilities all we want but there's still no proof. this is religious belief in something based on theory. i'll await the real thing, thank you though. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 9247906 Canada 03/22/2012 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | we have no proven cases of it happening, we can't recreate it in a lab or in any circumstances, so all the research is theoretical, speculation. we can read, write and speak about the possibilities all we want but there's still no proof. this is religious belief in something based on theory. i'll await the real thing, thank you though. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1364770 There are plenty of proven cases of telepathy. If you have the time and patience to actually look for them you will find them... Often it evades certain types of people for a good reason. I notice that many of the people posting in this thread began voicing their opposition to everything that they have no clue about. "we can't recreate it in a lab or in any circumstances" You sound like an expert on the subject. Its like the greatest experts on drugs are those who've never tried them before. I don't know if this is true in your case but if you missed it, here is a quote from my blog above: Neuroscience Researcher and Laurentian University professor, Dr. Michael Persinger, demonstrates telepathy under laboratory conditions. Claims of telepathy, ESP and other psi phenomena are a mainstay of popular culture but taboo in neuroscience research circles. Fortunately, Dr. Michael Persinger of Canada’s Laurentian University has never been afraid to venture where other researchers fear to go.“What we have found is that if you place two different people at a distance and put a circular magnetic field around both, and you make sure they are connected to the same computer so they get the same stimulation, then if you flash a light in one person’s eye the person in the other room receiving just the magnetic field will show changes in their brain as if they saw the flash of light. We think that’s tremendous because it may be the first macro demonstration of a quantum connection, or so-called quantum entanglement. If true, then there’s another way of potential communication that may have physical applications, for example, in space travel.” "While Persinger’s experiments could prove groundbreaking, he remains doubtful about his controversial findings reaching his colleagues, “I think the critical thing about science is to be open-minded. It’s really important to realize that the true subject matter of science is the pursuit of the unknown. Sadly scientists have become extraordinarily group-oriented. Our most typical critics are not mystic believer types. They are scientists who have a narrow vision of what the world is like." Source: [link to www.skeptiko.com] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 9247906 Canada 03/22/2012 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You never bothered reading the peer reviewed scientific paperwork, thus everything you talk about is based on faith and belief. Science is a religion in and of itself... and thus very closed off the the wider possibilities of reality. |
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all_the_kings_horses User ID: 11652644 United States 03/22/2012 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This guy, sorry to say has .......well....how do you spell military industrial complex....How do spell Department of Defense...Pentagon weapons project.....Stuff like this may have been used against us on 911. Quoting: all_the_kings_horses 11652644 Lets continue the spelling test....how do you spell National security Agency and US Navy.....The entire human race can be controlled via the earths magnetic fields ....and the carrier system is already in place world wide. We know The Pentagon seeks to weaponize everything it can put its hands on. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 9247906 Canada 03/23/2012 06:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This guy, sorry to say has .......well....how do you spell military industrial complex....How do spell Department of Defense...Pentagon weapons project.....Stuff like this may have been used against us on 911. Quoting: all_the_kings_horses 11652644 Lets continue the spelling test....how do you spell National security Agency and US Navy.....The entire human race can be controlled via the earths magnetic fields ....and the carrier system is already in place world wide. We know The Pentagon seeks to weaponize everything it can put its hands on. You are an expert on this so called carrier system, please give us all the juicy details. |
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JJ User ID: 1217128 United States 03/23/2012 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Telepathy is not based on believing in something that is not there, but it is based on having a consciousness developed enough to be able to ascertain the signals being sent and also to send signals of thought out to others. Consciousness is developed through truth, knowledge and wisdom, never belief or faith, because these are based on blind superstition. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12970653 Faith is the substance of things unseen. Everything you can imagine is possible... there are no boundaries. God knows no boundaries, only we do. Well, if that's the delusion you want to live with, that's your problem. |